Guest guest Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 Hare Krishna Dear Narasimha , Pranams Let me see if I got this right? Sorry im trying to grasp this.... 1) check for connections of A8 , 8th house/lord,with ketu(rahu),12 house or lord in rasi chart, and also check the same in Navamsa. 2) in D-20 , locate signs and planets associated with A8,AK,nodes,12 house,etc If there are common denominators then , using Narayana Dasa of D-20, one can expect a favorable period for such Kundalini experience during the transiting planets through signs linked to those same planets/signs from above (nodes,A8,8thand/or 12th lord etc) Where can I read more about this from SJC? Thank-you, Lakshmi Kary vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote: > Namaste Vinita, > > Certainly, having no expectations is the saattwik method. > > Of course, every event has an astrological reason. In fact, not just one, but hundreds of reasons. An event is brought about by a confluence of hundreds or thousands of factors. Based on one's knowledge, one can identify one or more of the factors that brought an event! > > In your rasi chart, you have the 8th lord Jupiter and Ketu together in 2nd house, aspected by the 12th lord Mars in 8th! The basic criterion I mentioned originally is satisfied. > > In your D-20, lagna lord Mercury, 8th/9th lord Saturn and nodes are together in Libra. They all aspect A8. Usually, the signs containing Saturn and nodes are important for spiritual sadhana. Naturally, Libra dasa has to be the key. > > Unlike Chara dasa which is computed only in rasi chart, its generalization Narayana dasa is computed for each divisional charts. You can use "Jagannatha Hora" software to compute Narayana dasa of various divisional charts. > > As per your Vimsamsa Narayana dasa, Libra dasa runs from July 2002 to July 2012. Thus, these ten years are likely to be a key period in spiritual life. > > In my judgment, Saturn and nodes will give their result fully in the last one-third of this dasa. So March 2009-July 2012 will be the key period in your spiritual progress. > > I am particularly impressed by your 2011-12 annual Tithi Pravesha chart (JHora can compute it). Saturn is the 12th lord aspecting lagna, in rasi chart. He is the ruler of the year. In D-20, he is in 8th house Cancer with 9th lord Sun and nodes. This is a very auspicious combination for excellent spiritual experiences. Cancer is a very fruitful sign and gives results easily. It is my prediction to you that you will have some intense spiritual experiences during 2011- 12. > > Actually, next few years seem very interesting too, for spiritual progress. However, my expectation is that 2011 will bring the peak. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > ------------------------------- > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > ------------------------------- > > > Respected Narsimhaji, > > > > After experimenting with various spiritual practices which I could > > never pursue very seriously, about 2 yrs back I met with the Guru > > with whom I thought I could stay. He has given inititiation in some > > practices which I am pursuing. Of course, one of the mottos is - do > > not have any expectations. I wasn't even aware to begin with that > > this had anything to do with kundalini awakening. But later on as I > > read some stuff and also watched people who have progressed in these > > practices, I noticed that it is all about raising energy levels. > > About a year ago, I also experienced spurt in energy level when my > > sleep requirements reduced drastically. But things are back > > to "normal" again. Of course, I would like to believe that > > some "irreversible changes" have occured at a more subtle level - one > > of them being that from a primarily Saturnian person I feel more like > > a Mercury person. I am definitely more joyous now than I was when I > > started the practices. Whatever it is I take it as the first few > > tentative steps on a long journey..... > > > > Could there be astrological reasons for these changes, is the > > question that I would like to pose to you and on this forum. If so, > > could you please elaborate? My wish and my desire is that whatever > > this is it should deepen in intensity....Do you see this happening in > > the future? Of course, my guru would say that everything depends on > > us - how intensely we want the "inner freedom" will shape what will > > ultimately happen to us. But still the temptation is strong to find > > out astrological reasons for such things... > > > > I shall look forward to your response! > > > > Regards, > > > > Vinita > > > > (DOB 3rd July,1954; 2.43 a.m.; Lucknow; India) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 Dear Lakshmi, Whatever I wrote is based on my observations based on a limited set of reliable (to me, anyway) case studies. I cannot share the data. Though this is my deduction and not strictly based on the knowledge of the SJC tradition, obviously the fundamentals as per the tradition must have influenced my thinking. If I am not mistaken, Sanjay did some work on astrological correlations of Kundalini rise, based on "Nrisin(g)ha Puraana", a couple of years back. Hopefully, he will find an occasion to share his work with us! Just bear in mind that 4th, 8th and 12th are moksha trikonas. While kaama trikonas shows the motivation behind what one does (3rd - initiative and forming of desires, 7th - nurturing and pursuit of desires, 11th - fructification of desires), moksha trikonas show overcoming the desires and being liberated from the concept of motivation and desire. For any spiritual progress, these are vital houses. The 4th house shows the direction one has, from which happiness and comfort come. When you find your direction, you have to work hard and do tapasya/sadhana. The 8th house shows that. Finally, when the sadhana pays off, you become liberated. The 12th house shows liberation. It shows letting go. As I said, the rasi, navamsa and vimsamsa chart are vital. But, astute readers would've noticed that something like Kundalini awakening does not come due to the sadhana of one life. It comes due to sadhana from several lives. It should be destined to happen as a result of past karmas. Naturally, an important chart should be shashtyamsa. The physical existence is shown by rasi chart and various environments surrounding and supporting the physical existence (e.g. dharmik environment, spiriutal environment etc) are shown by various divisional charts (e.g. D-9, D-20 etc). The physical existence and the environments that support it are merely a vehicle for discharging the karma that is to be experienced. Shashtyamsa shows that karma. For example, in Ramakrishna Paramahan(g)sa's shashtyamsa chart, you can find Ketu in the 8th house. The 8th and 12th lords are on the lagna axis. From the 12th lord Sun, his naisargika bodhaka Mars happens to be in the bodhaka sthana in the chart! His naisargika karaka Jupiter happens to be in the karaka sthana in the chart! While Sun owns 12th, Mars and Jupiter own the other moksha trikonas! Now see vimsamsa. The 8th lord Saturn is in 8th, joined by Rahu and Ketu. That is a very powerful combination for spiritual sadhana. Moreover, 8th lord Saturn is the naisrgika karaka for 12th lord Venus and he is in tatkaala karaka sthana from Venus in this vimsamsa chart. As you see a similar synergy between 8th and 12th in D-60 and D-20, you can conclude that the native will do spiritual sadhana and have some liberating experiences. [Note: If you want to learn about pachakadi sambandhas, read Sarvartha Chintamani (or is it Jataka Parijatam? I seem to be forgetting. I think it is Sarvartha Chintamani). For each planet, there are 4 planets - pachaka, bodhaka, karaka and vedhaka. Pachaka literally means one who cooks. Bodhaka literally means one who explains. Karaka literally means one who gets done. Vedhaka literally means one who obstructs. These are the planets who have access to the domain ruled by the planet and cause influence. Whether the influence is good or bad depends on the compound relationship between the planets (friends, enemies etc) and the conflicts and synergies between what they show in the chart. There are naisargika (inherent) pachaka, bodhaka etc and also certain houses from planets become tatkaala pachaka sthana, bodhaka sthana etc. In JHora, click the right mouse button on a planet in a chart and select "Relationships" in the pop-up menu and "Pachakadi relationships of this planet" in the sub-enu.] May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha -------------------------------Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org------------------------------- > Hare Krishna> Dear Narasimha ,> Pranams> Let me see if I got this right? Sorry im trying to grasp this....> > 1) check for connections of A8 , 8th house/lord,with ketu(rahu),12 > house or lord in rasi chart, and also check the same in Navamsa.> 2) in D-20 , locate signs and planets associated with A8,AK,nodes,12 > house,etc > If there are common denominators then> , using Narayana Dasa of D-20, one can expect a favorable period for > such Kundalini experience during the transiting planets through > signs linked to those same planets/signs from above> (nodes,A8,8thand/or 12th lord etc)> > Where can I read more about this from SJC?> Thank-you,> Lakshmi Kary> --- In vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > <pvr@c...> wrote:> > Namaste Vinita,> > > > Certainly, having no expectations is the saattwik method.> > > > Of course, every event has an astrological reason. In fact, not > just one, but hundreds of reasons. An event is brought about by a > confluence of hundreds or thousands of factors. Based on one's > knowledge, one can identify one or more of the factors that brought > an event!> > > > In your rasi chart, you have the 8th lord Jupiter and Ketu together > in 2nd house, aspected by the 12th lord Mars in 8th! The basic > criterion I mentioned originally is satisfied.> > > > In your D-20, lagna lord Mercury, 8th/9th lord Saturn and nodes are > together in Libra. They all aspect A8. Usually, the signs containing > Saturn and nodes are important for spiritual sadhana. Naturally, > Libra dasa has to be the key.> > > > Unlike Chara dasa which is computed only in rasi chart, its > generalization Narayana dasa is computed for each divisional charts. > You can use "Jagannatha Hora" software to compute Narayana dasa of > various divisional charts.> > > > As per your Vimsamsa Narayana dasa, Libra dasa runs from July 2002 > to July 2012. Thus, these ten years are likely to be a key period in > spiritual life.> > > > In my judgment, Saturn and nodes will give their result fully in > the last one-third of this dasa. So March 2009-July 2012 will be the > key period in your spiritual progress.> > > > I am particularly impressed by your 2011-12 annual Tithi Pravesha > chart (JHora can compute it). Saturn is the 12th lord aspecting > lagna, in rasi chart. He is the ruler of the year. In D-20, he is in > 8th house Cancer with 9th lord Sun and nodes. This is a very > auspicious combination for excellent spiritual experiences. Cancer is > a very fruitful sign and gives results easily. It is my prediction to > you that you will have some intense spiritual experiences during 2011-> 12.> > > > Actually, next few years seem very interesting too, for spiritual > progress. However, my expectation is that 2011 will bring the peak.> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> > Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 Dear Narasimha Rao Ji, Namaskar, Thank You for sharing knowledge about Pachakadi Sambandha. 1. It would be great if You could write us more how to use it & some examples. 2. Karaka for Venus is Saturn and Vedhaka is Sun per JH. In Cova it is opposite. Where is mistake ? with regards, Rafal Gendarz. - Narasimha P.V.R. Rao Vedic Astrology Group ; Saturday, June 25, 2005 6:35 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Kundalini Awakening , more questions. Dear Lakshmi, Whatever I wrote is based on my observations based on a limited set of reliable (to me, anyway) case studies. I cannot share the data. Though this is my deduction and not strictly based on the knowledge of the SJC tradition, obviously the fundamentals as per the tradition must have influenced my thinking. If I am not mistaken, Sanjay did some work on astrological correlations of Kundalini rise, based on "Nrisin(g)ha Puraana", a couple of years back. Hopefully, he will find an occasion to share his work with us! Just bear in mind that 4th, 8th and 12th are moksha trikonas. While kaama trikonas shows the motivation behind what one does (3rd - initiative and forming of desires, 7th - nurturing and pursuit of desires, 11th - fructification of desires), moksha trikonas show overcoming the desires and being liberated from the concept of motivation and desire. For any spiritual progress, these are vital houses. The 4th house shows the direction one has, from which happiness and comfort come. When you find your direction, you have to work hard and do tapasya/sadhana. The 8th house shows that. Finally, when the sadhana pays off, you become liberated. The 12th house shows liberation. It shows letting go. As I said, the rasi, navamsa and vimsamsa chart are vital. But, astute readers would've noticed that something like Kundalini awakening does not come due to the sadhana of one life. It comes due to sadhana from several lives. It should be destined to happen as a result of past karmas. Naturally, an important chart should be shashtyamsa. The physical existence is shown by rasi chart and various environments surrounding and supporting the physical existence (e.g. dharmik environment, spiriutal environment etc) are shown by various divisional charts (e.g. D-9, D-20 etc). The physical existence and the environments that support it are merely a vehicle for discharging the karma that is to be experienced. Shashtyamsa shows that karma. For example, in Ramakrishna Paramahan(g)sa's shashtyamsa chart, you can find Ketu in the 8th house. The 8th and 12th lords are on the lagna axis. From the 12th lord Sun, his naisargika bodhaka Mars happens to be in the bodhaka sthana in the chart! His naisargika karaka Jupiter happens to be in the karaka sthana in the chart! While Sun owns 12th, Mars and Jupiter own the other moksha trikonas! Now see vimsamsa. The 8th lord Saturn is in 8th, joined by Rahu and Ketu. That is a very powerful combination for spiritual sadhana. Moreover, 8th lord Saturn is the naisrgika karaka for 12th lord Venus and he is in tatkaala karaka sthana from Venus in this vimsamsa chart. As you see a similar synergy between 8th and 12th in D-60 and D-20, you can conclude that the native will do spiritual sadhana and have some liberating experiences. [Note: If you want to learn about pachakadi sambandhas, read Sarvartha Chintamani (or is it Jataka Parijatam? I seem to be forgetting. I think it is Sarvartha Chintamani). For each planet, there are 4 planets - pachaka, bodhaka, karaka and vedhaka. Pachaka literally means one who cooks. Bodhaka literally means one who explains. Karaka literally means one who gets done. Vedhaka literally means one who obstructs. These are the planets who have access to the domain ruled by the planet and cause influence. Whether the influence is good or bad depends on the compound relationship between the planets (friends, enemies etc) and the conflicts and synergies between what they show in the chart. There are naisargika (inherent) pachaka, bodhaka etc and also certain houses from planets become tatkaala pachaka sthana, bodhaka sthana etc. In JHora, click the right mouse button on a planet in a chart and select "Relationships" in the pop-up menu and "Pachakadi relationships of this planet" in the sub-enu.] May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha -------------------------------Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org------------------------------- > Hare Krishna> Dear Narasimha ,> Pranams> Let me see if I got this right? Sorry im trying to grasp this....> > 1) check for connections of A8 , 8th house/lord,with ketu(rahu),12 > house or lord in rasi chart, and also check the same in Navamsa.> 2) in D-20 , locate signs and planets associated with A8,AK,nodes,12 > house,etc > If there are common denominators then> , using Narayana Dasa of D-20, one can expect a favorable period for > such Kundalini experience during the transiting planets through > signs linked to those same planets/signs from above> (nodes,A8,8thand/or 12th lord etc)> > Where can I read more about this from SJC?> Thank-you,> Lakshmi Kary> --- In vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > <pvr@c...> wrote:> > Namaste Vinita,> > > > Certainly, having no expectations is the saattwik method.> > > > Of course, every event has an astrological reason. In fact, not > just one, but hundreds of reasons. An event is brought about by a > confluence of hundreds or thousands of factors. Based on one's > knowledge, one can identify one or more of the factors that brought > an event!> > > > In your rasi chart, you have the 8th lord Jupiter and Ketu together > in 2nd house, aspected by the 12th lord Mars in 8th! The basic > criterion I mentioned originally is satisfied.> > > > In your D-20, lagna lord Mercury, 8th/9th lord Saturn and nodes are > together in Libra. They all aspect A8. Usually, the signs containing > Saturn and nodes are important for spiritual sadhana. Naturally, > Libra dasa has to be the key.> > > > Unlike Chara dasa which is computed only in rasi chart, its > generalization Narayana dasa is computed for each divisional charts. > You can use "Jagannatha Hora" software to compute Narayana dasa of > various divisional charts.> > > > As per your Vimsamsa Narayana dasa, Libra dasa runs from July 2002 > to July 2012. Thus, these ten years are likely to be a key period in > spiritual life.> > > > In my judgment, Saturn and nodes will give their result fully in > the last one-third of this dasa. So March 2009-July 2012 will be the > key period in your spiritual progress.> > > > I am particularly impressed by your 2011-12 annual Tithi Pravesha > chart (JHora can compute it). Saturn is the 12th lord aspecting > lagna, in rasi chart. He is the ruler of the year. In D-20, he is in > 8th house Cancer with 9th lord Sun and nodes. This is a very > auspicious combination for excellent spiritual experiences. Cancer is > a very fruitful sign and gives results easily. It is my prediction to > you that you will have some intense spiritual experiences during 2011-> 12.> > > > Actually, next few years seem very interesting too, for spiritual > progress. However, my expectation is that 2011 will bring the peak.> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> > Narasimha Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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