9#Re:Illict RelationShip............Sai

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Thanx for your valuable openion.

 

Pankaj Upadhyay ,

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vedic astrology, Shripal <d_shripal>

wrote:

> Hi Sai,

>

> Yes more cupprit is dasa,even combination are

> present,But made it possible.

>

> --- sai_jyotish <sai_jyotish> wrote:

>

> > Thanx alot.

> >

> > Whatever u said is 100% right but as i hav work on

> > this case and

> > think can there be a chance in the man's chart of

> > devorce due to 7L

> > venus (in navmansa) placed in 12th and jupiter

> > placed in 12th in

> > lagna kundli. and the same case in girls chart 2nd

> > to UL is aspected

> > by rahu and sat, jupiter is very weak with 12L sun

> > and sat. Jupiter

> > is placed in 12L and deli too in navmansa. UL lord

> > venus is also with

> > the rahu and aspected by sat . Does all these

> > combinations indicate

> > towards the marrige of both. because girls is also

> > attached to him

> > and i dont think due to rahu mahadasha she will be

> > able to leave him.

> >

> > Pankaj

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, Shripal

> > <d_shripal>

> > wrote:

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I Man's chart Venus and Moon seperation is just 1

> > > degree,So luring himself into women is very common

> > for

> > > this person,is guy is of girlish nature and sweet

> > > spoken.Lagna lord in 12th of scorpio.

> > > In Navmasa Venus is exalted,But in 12th so sure

> > > affair,aspected by Jupiter,is a religious

> > > person.Opposing Mer,jealous too.A fearful person.

> > >

> > > A girl with whom he is indulge in affair,I don't

> > see

> > > her having really an affair,she is definately a

> > flirt

> > > and like to enjoy a life and may be just carried

> > > away,But will never have a serious relationship

> > > externally,Yes Venus is afflicted by Rahu so

> > during

> > > that period of Life she must have got carried away

> > and

> > > as Jupiter is debi in Navmasa,a barrier that has

> > to be

> > > created wasn't so,so resuled into of low moral.But

> > > Venus is exalted with Saturn,so she will

> > understand

> > > today or tommorrow what she is doing is wrong.

> > >

> > > A guy is libido and will never want to break a

> > > relationship.

> > >

> > > --- sai_jyotish <sai_jyotish> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Respected Astrologers

> > > >

> > > > In addition to research on illict relationship i

> > > > wish to add a data

> > > > of person and a girl. this person is having

> > storng

> > > > extra marital

> > > > relationship apart from a excellent married life

> > and

> > > > good religeous

> > > > wife. What do u see as his future. Same with

> > that

> > > > girl she too is

> > > > engaged in a relationship before marrige since

> > past

> > > > 2 and half yrs

> > > > now wish break it and want to leave setteled

> > married

> > > > life. Hope these

> > > > data will open more points to discuss.

> > > >

> > > > Man :

> > > > 20/09/71

> > > > 13:00

> > > > Latt : 22.44-N Long : 75.40-E

> > > >

> > > > Girl

> > > > 28/09/80

> > > > 05:30

> > > > Latt : 24.43-N Long : 81.25-E

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Pankaj Upadhyay

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, shyam

> > murti

> > > > gupta

> > > > <smurti_gupta> wrote:

> > > > > Respected Astrogurus,

> > > > > I am not much versed on the subject but feel

> > to

> > > > put my humble

> > > > observation in the Pune-Boys chart that his

> > Pardara

> > > > nakshtra 18 deg

> > > > Shravan is fortified by Guru 23 deg and Chandra

> > 13

> > > > deg, covered eachh

> > > > side by 5 deg and both being soumy grah causing

> > > > Gajkesari yoga with

> > > > 7th drasti on 7th Lord Sun in 6th with murcury -

> > > > again a budhaditya

> > > > yog. Lagna and 12th lord Saturn is with ketu

> > in

> > > > 5th house of love

> > > > and passion besides offsprings - being a cold,

> > slow

> > > > and philosophical

> > > > yuti of Sat-Ketu, he may on the contrary be

> > > > otherwise ( no illicite

> > > > relation).

> > > > > In navamsa Venus-ketu yuti in 10th makes his

> > > > activities unduly

> > > > kalankit in home and work space, if I am

> > guessing

> > > > right.

> > > > > One has to take several pros and cons of

> > > > numerous intricacies in

> > > > atrology before outright labelling som one

> > > > characterless.

> > > > > May lord jupiter shower lessing on all of

> > us.

> > > > > with best regards

> > > > > shy

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > lakshmikary <lakshmikary> wrote:

> > > > > Hare Krishna

> > > > > Dear Shripal,

> > > > > I wanted to add a few things.

> > > > > Jupiter in 12th doesnt necessarally have

> > anythign

> > > > to do with

> > > > illicite

> > > > > relationships. It can also mean the person

> > gives

> > > > alot of money to

> > > > > children, or is seperated from children (as in

> > a

> > > > divorce case)

> > > > > Jupiter gives good indications as a matter of

> > fact

> > > > Jupiters aspect

> > > > on

> > > > > mercury gives , chastity. Look in navamsa

> > chart,

> > > > moon and merc in

> > > > > trines without aspect of jupiter gives loose

> > > > morals.Does he drink,

> > > > > drinking loosens up peoples morals and

> > principles.

> > > > > Also,7th lord in 6th can give marraige to a

> > > > partner that one feels

> > > > > inimical to, or spouse can be sickly, i have

> > > > several charts were

> > > > long

> > > > > marriages with this placement.

> > > > > In general, Jupiter gives morality.Look and

> > see if

> > > > Jupiter aspects

> > > > > lagna, LL, or what planets if any are in 10th

> > from

> > > > moon,etc

> > > > > Saturn and Mars give coldness, cruelty and

> > anger,

> > > > frustration.

> > > > > Im sorry didnt have chance to look at this

> > > > specific chart.

> > > > > Look at some charts of serial rapists for more

> > > > detials on creeps.

> > > > > Many were also cruel to animals in childhood.

> > > > > Look to 2nd from UL, and 8th from UL to see

> > > > results on marriages,

> > > > > see how many planets are aspecting A7 for

> > > > potential liasons,

> > > > > be very careful in examining peoples charts in

> > > > this regard,as some

> > > > > people may go through a "phase" and not ever

> > do it

> > > > again.etc/

> > > > > ALl the best ,

> > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > vedic astrology,

> > Shripal

> > > > <d_shripal>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Jai Jinendra,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I would like to add what you said,As you

> > said

> > > > moral

> > > > > > character is down,7th lord in 6th house,does

> > his

> > > > > > marriage is going to break up or they will

> > live

> > > > > > throughout life may be for just a sake of

> > > > parents or

> > > > > > for nothing or for world and continue a

> > > > relationship

> > > > > > outside marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I want som more view,before i reach to any

> > > > > > conclusion.In Navmasa Venus in capricon and

> > Mars

> > > > 8th

> > > > > > aspect and Jupiter debi in 12th,even will

> > make

> > > > him go

> > > > > > to slute or prostitutes.Above all Venus

> > > > debi,Person

> > > > > > doesn't know what is Love.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- skumar_varanasi <skumar_varanasi>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jai Sai Ram

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > > I will try to share my views about the

> > illicit

> > > > > > > relationships in a

> > > > > > > male native chart.I think the jupiter in

> > 12H

> > > > will

> > > > > > > make the native

> > > > > > > dishonest and with questionalble

> > character.For

> > > > a

> > > > > > > male i think its

> > > > > > > the Venus which can give the chances of

> > > > illicit

> > > > > > > relationships by

> > > > > > > virtue of its placement like in 8H,in

> > Libra

> > > > Mool

> > > > > > > trikon,7L with

> > > > > > > Venus,7L in 6,8,12H,2L with

> > venus,conjoining

> > > > of

> > > > > > > malefics with venus

> > > > > > > or 7L.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The running of Dashas and anterdashas of

> > venus

> > > > under

> > > > > > > malefics like

> > > > > > > venus anterdasha in raahu dasha will give

> > > > illicit

> > > > > > > relationships.

> > > > > > > Learned Guru's pls correct if i am wroung.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sunil Kumar Varanasi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology,

> > > > Shripal

> > > > > > > <d_shripal>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > Jai Jinendra,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I knowa Guy having Debiliated Jupiter in

> > > > 12th with

> > > > > > > > Moon,However Sun and Mer in 6th house,is

> > > > having

> > > > > > > > illicit relationship with many woman of

> > age

> > > > > > > greater

> > > > > > > > than him,always try to lure them through

> > > > > > > emotionally

> > > > > > > > and spends lots of money on them

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > While on other hand there is hardly any

> > > > > > > relationship

> > > > > > > > with wife or speaks even sweetly,rather

> > > > torcher

> > > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > and ask for money etc and stuff.Always

> > > > demands for

> > > > > > > Sex

> > > > > > > > if not getting from other woman with

> > whom he

> > > > has

> > > > > > > > relationship.Pathetic person,not ashamed

> > of

> > > > even

> > > > > > > > saying such a things and having such a

> > > > > > > > relationship.Total desperate

> > person.Venus is

> > > > > > > > debiliated and in Navamsa afflicted my

> > Mars.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But from outwards he acts very norn=mal

> > and

> > > > hides

> > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > his feelings,especially for girls.If we

> > see

> > > > his

> > > > > > > AL,?It

> > > > > > > > is Libra and Venus in 12th,so Jupiter

> > and

> > > > moon in

> > > > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > makes him possible to perceive others

> > that

> > > > he is

> > > > > > > Good

> > > > > > > > and even for sexual relationship he is

> > albe

> > > > to

> > > > > > > show he

> > > > > > > > is passionate and Good lover.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But as Lagna lord afflicted with

> > Ketu,debil

> > > > Venus

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > 8th and Debi Jupiter in 12th,puts all

> > water

> > > > when

> > > > > > > > things actually comes front of those

> > > > > > > specimen,actuall

> > > > > > > > close entity will soon come to know he

> > truth

> > > > and I

> > > > > > > > guess smart will take avantage of him

> > and

> > > > dump him

> > > > > > > > down when find a better one and again he

> > > > will all

> > > > > > > come

> > > > > > > > to his life full of grief.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > His bith data:13th August 1973

> > > > > > > > Time:20.15

> > > > > > > > Place:Pune,India

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I want some more thoughts on this

> > chart.I

> > > > know him

> > > > > > > > through someone,But he doesn't know

> > me.It

> > > > will be

> > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > specimen for a illicit relationship to

> > > > judge.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Tanvir ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sorry for jumping in..

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > but wht is to be seen particularly in

> > > > > > > horo...means

> > > > > > > > > it is said that

> > > > > > > > > jupiter even if debilated gives

> > positive

> > > > > > > results.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > do saturn or mars and venus....as

> > > > specified in

> > > > > > > > > trimsamsa.are to be

> > > > > > > > > seen particularly.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > kindly guide me

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > tarun..

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > ,

> > > > > > > "Tanvir"

> > > > > > > > > <ultimate@s...>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > As Ashutosh ji rightly said, Ju's

> > aspect

> > > > on

> > > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > > cannot assure a

> > > > > > > > > good character. I would say that even

> > Ju's

> > > > > > > presence

> > > > > > > > > in lagna cannot

> > > > > > > > > assure, rather it makes the matter

> > MORE

> > > > RISKY.

> > > > > > > Ju

> > > > > > > > > rules character and

> > > > > > > > > honesty etc., and it's presence in

> > lagna

> > > > re

> > > > > > > inforces

> > > > > > > > > this side of Ju

> > > > > > > > > and then a mere affliction (Or some

> > > > impurity in

> > > > > > > Ju's

> > > > > > > > > lordship) can

> > > > > > > > > make the person really very dishonest.

> > > > This

> > > > > > > > > principle of

> > > > > > > > > reinforcement is what I have observed

> > in

> > > > my

> > > > > > > little

> > > > > > > > > learing and it

> > > > > > > > > explains the misconcept of karaka

> > bhava

> > > > nasha

> > > > > > > (or

> > > > > > > > > whatever).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have seen charts like this.

> > However I

> > > > must

> > > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > > admit that not

> > > > > > > > > Ju's presence in lagna means bad

> > character

> > > > > > > either.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > PS I must also say that the specific

> > > > problems

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > marriage is often

> > > > > > > > > hard to say - I can give an example

> > like

> > > > seeing

> > > > > > > it's

> > > > > > > > > chart it is

> > > > > > > > > often hard to say that whether the

> > person

> > > > or

> > > > > > > his/her

> > > > > > > > > spouse is going

> > > > > > > > > to sleep with others. It is always (or

> > > > often)

> > > > > > > very

> > > > > > > > > hard to say. We

> > > > > > > > > can say that some infedality the

> > native

> > > > will

> > > > > > > > > experience in his/her

> > > > > > > > > married life. This can come as his own

> > > > action or

> > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > spouse's. People

> > > > > > > > > put straight fw rules for this but I

> > have

> > > > tested

> > > > > > > > > them and they do not

> > > > > > > > > always work. Since the chance is 50-50

> > > > then a

> > > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > might even do.

> > > > > > > > > But that's not the success. Sometimes

> > I

> > > > have

> > > > > > > come

> > > > > > > > > across typical

> > > > > > > > > charts and have seen some common

> > things

> > > > that

> > > > > > > lead to

> > > > > > > > > breach of trust

> > > > > > > > > in specifically WHO is going to do

> > this

> > > > (Either

> > > > > > > > > native or the

> > > > > > > > > spouse). A planets positional

> > weakness,

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > > afflictional weakness etc

> > > > > > > > > are to be considered differently in

> > this

> > > > matter

> > > > > > > very

> > > > > > > > > carefully. This

> > > > > > > > > area is hard (At least to me) and

> > would

> > > > need

> > > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > > research, time etc.

> > > > > > > > > to learn. May not be possible for me.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Best wishes

> > > > > > > > > > Tanvir

> > > > > > > > >

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