Guest guest Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Dear Ranjan, Lest people be misled, I need to clarify that I am not an expert in the area of Kundalini jagarana. My observations are based on a small amount of data, as data is tough to obtain in this area. The data is suspect as some people may be confused about what Kundalini jagarana is. Some interactions between the subtle body and the gross body, that cleanse the nadis and prepare them for Kundalini jagarana, can be mistaken for one. Moreover, as Dr Pandit clarified, Kundalini jagarana is merely the beginning of a long journey. It is not the end goal of one's spiritual journey by any means. Dr Pandit is definitely much much more knowledgable in this area than I am. I know that well personally. I am glad you started a dialog with him. I will just say a little I observed and then withdraw from this conversation. I wrote on this thread originally only because I wanted to help the lady who seemed to be eager about Kundalini jagarana. In my judgment, vimsamsa is the vital chart. Each soul has a little of the Supreme Being, but it is wrapped in maya and forced to lead a bound and limited existence. Kundalini is the Shakti that can unlimit this existence and liberate one. Naturally, rasi, navamsa and vimsamsa are vital charts. When somebody I know had a Kundalini jagarana, for example, annual dasa of Sun was running. Sun was the 5th lord in the 8th house in Scorpio in D-20 of the annual TP chart. Regarding transits, I suggest correlating natal D-20 with transit navamsa chart. Something like Kundalini jagarana happens due to the sadhana in several lives. Transit navamsas of planets show the focus point of the blessings for the accumulated punya. The natal vimsamsa chart shows the sadhana of a person in this life and one's attempts to connect to one's concept of "god". The interactions between natal vimsamsa and transit navamsa show the fruits obtained in one's spiritual pursuit. When you look for navamsa transit influences on natal vimsamsa positions, look for Jupiter's influence on lagna, Saturn's influence on Moon, the influence of 8thlord/12th lord/Ketu on A8 (mrityu pada - arudha pada of 8th) and the influence of ishta devata on Saturn. Ishta/moksha devata is the planet associated with the 12th house from chara atma karaka (AK) in natal navamsa chart. Also, I suggest looking at the 4th house from AK in natal D-20 to see the spiritual path one finds attractive. For example, Saturn would show Patanjali's yoga sastra. Sun and Jupiter would show the jnaana maarga. To see whether one pursues Kundalini jagarana through hatha yoga, bhakti yoga, jnaana yoga etc can be studied from the moksha trikonas (esp 4th) from AK in D-20. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha -------------------------------Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org------------------------------- > Narasimha,> > I haven't run into enough charts of live individuals with fully > awakened kundalini but am very curious about the phenomena. What is > the role of vimshamsha in this area, in your experience?> > RR> > > Namaste Helen,> > > > What is good for goose is not good for gander. I cannot suggest a > specific guru.> > > > However, I can say one thing. In your navamsa, chara atma karaka > (AK) Mars is in Leo. The 12th from him is Cancer and it contains > Moon, Saturn and Rahu. Out of those planets, Saturn is chara bhratri > karaka (BK) and he shows the spiritual guru.> > > > Thus, I suggest looking for a compassionate Kaali worshipper. If > you find such a guru/gurvi and he/she initiates you into the worship > of Divine Mother, it can lead to vairagya, Kundalini awakening and > some spiritual experiences in coming years.> > > > May God bless you. I will be off the lists again.> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> > Narasimha> > -------------------------------> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org> > ------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Dear Shri PVR Narsimha Rao, This may sound like flattering, but both your emails are "touch of class" , I suggest you write a detailed book sharing your experiences on the tricky subject "transits in Navmansha and other Divisional charts and it's correlation with predictions". That would be a great gift to learners and also to experienced astrologers. Warm regards, Anil Gogate - Narasimha P.V.R. Rao ; vedic astrology Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:56 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Kundalini Awakening (to Ranjan) Dear Ranjan, Lest people be misled, I need to clarify that I am not an expert in the area of Kundalini jagarana. My observations are based on a small amount of data, as data is tough to obtain in this area. The data is suspect as some people may be confused about what Kundalini jagarana is. Some interactions between the subtle body and the gross body, that cleanse the nadis and prepare them for Kundalini jagarana, can be mistaken for one. Moreover, as Dr Pandit clarified, Kundalini jagarana is merely the beginning of a long journey. It is not the end goal of one's spiritual journey by any means. Dr Pandit is definitely much much more knowledgable in this area than I am. I know that well personally. I am glad you started a dialog with him. I will just say a little I observed and then withdraw from this conversation. I wrote on this thread originally only because I wanted to help the lady who seemed to be eager about Kundalini jagarana. In my judgment, vimsamsa is the vital chart. Each soul has a little of the Supreme Being, but it is wrapped in maya and forced to lead a bound and limited existence. Kundalini is the Shakti that can unlimit this existence and liberate one. Naturally, rasi, navamsa and vimsamsa are vital charts. When somebody I know had a Kundalini jagarana, for example, annual dasa of Sun was running. Sun was the 5th lord in the 8th house in Scorpio in D-20 of the annual TP chart. Regarding transits, I suggest correlating natal D-20 with transit navamsa chart. Something like Kundalini jagarana happens due to the sadhana in several lives. Transit navamsas of planets show the focus point of the blessings for the accumulated punya. The natal vimsamsa chart shows the sadhana of a person in this life and one's attempts to connect to one's concept of "god". The interactions between natal vimsamsa and transit navamsa show the fruits obtained in one's spiritual pursuit. When you look for navamsa transit influences on natal vimsamsa positions, look for Jupiter's influence on lagna, Saturn's influence on Moon, the influence of 8thlord/12th lord/Ketu on A8 (mrityu pada - arudha pada of 8th) and the influence of ishta devata on Saturn. Ishta/moksha devata is the planet associated with the 12th house from chara atma karaka (AK) in natal navamsa chart. Also, I suggest looking at the 4th house from AK in natal D-20 to see the spiritual path one finds attractive. For example, Saturn would show Patanjali's yoga sastra. Sun and Jupiter would show the jnaana maarga. To see whether one pursues Kundalini jagarana through hatha yoga, bhakti yoga, jnaana yoga etc can be studied from the moksha trikonas (esp 4th) from AK in D-20. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha -------------------------------Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org------------------------------- > Narasimha,> > I haven't run into enough charts of live individuals with fully > awakened kundalini but am very curious about the phenomena. What is > the role of vimshamsha in this area, in your experience?> > RR> > > Namaste Helen,> > > > What is good for goose is not good for gander. I cannot suggest a > specific guru.> > > > However, I can say one thing. In your navamsa, chara atma karaka > (AK) Mars is in Leo. The 12th from him is Cancer and it contains > Moon, Saturn and Rahu. Out of those planets, Saturn is chara bhratri > karaka (BK) and he shows the spiritual guru.> > > > Thus, I suggest looking for a compassionate Kaali worshipper. If > you find such a guru/gurvi and he/she initiates you into the worship > of Divine Mother, it can lead to vairagya, Kundalini awakening and > some spiritual experiences in coming years.> > > > May God bless you. I will be off the lists again.> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> > Narasimha> > -------------------------------> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org> > ------------------------------- Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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