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Hare Krishna

Dear Shripal,

I wanted to add a few things.

Jupiter in 12th doesnt necessarally have anythign to do with illicite

relationships. It can also mean the person gives alot of money to

children, or is seperated from children (as in a divorce case)

Jupiter gives good indications as a matter of fact Jupiters aspect on

mercury gives , chastity. Look in navamsa chart, moon and merc in

trines without aspect of jupiter gives loose morals.Does he drink,

drinking loosens up peoples morals and principles.

Also,7th lord in 6th can give marraige to a partner that one feels

inimical to, or spouse can be sickly, i have several charts were long

marriages with this placement.

In general, Jupiter gives morality.Look and see if Jupiter aspects

lagna, LL, or what planets if any are in 10th from moon,etc

Saturn and Mars give coldness, cruelty and anger, frustration.

Im sorry didnt have chance to look at this specific chart.

Look at some charts of serial rapists for more detials on creeps.

Many were also cruel to animals in childhood.

Look to 2nd from UL, and 8th from UL to see results on marriages,

see how many planets are aspecting A7 for potential liasons,

be very careful in examining peoples charts in this regard,as some

people may go through a "phase" and not ever do it again.etc/

ALl the best ,

Lakshmi

vedic astrology, Shripal <d_shripal>

wrote:

> Jai Jinendra,

>

> I would like to add what you said,As you said moral

> character is down,7th lord in 6th house,does his

> marriage is going to break up or they will live

> throughout life may be for just a sake of parents or

> for nothing or for world and continue a relationship

> outside marriage.

>

> I want som more view,before i reach to any

> conclusion.In Navmasa Venus in capricon and Mars 8th

> aspect and Jupiter debi in 12th,even will make him go

> to slute or prostitutes.Above all Venus debi,Person

> doesn't know what is Love.

>

> --- skumar_varanasi <skumar_varanasi>

> wrote:

>

> > Jai Sai Ram

> >

> > Hi

> > I will try to share my views about the illicit

> > relationships in a

> > male native chart.I think the jupiter in 12H will

> > make the native

> > dishonest and with questionalble character.For a

> > male i think its

> > the Venus which can give the chances of illicit

> > relationships by

> > virtue of its placement like in 8H,in Libra Mool

> > trikon,7L with

> > Venus,7L in 6,8,12H,2L with venus,conjoining of

> > malefics with venus

> > or 7L.

> >

> > The running of Dashas and anterdashas of venus under

> > malefics like

> > venus anterdasha in raahu dasha will give illicit

> > relationships.

> > Learned Guru's pls correct if i am wroung.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Sunil Kumar Varanasi

> >

> > vedic astrology, Shripal

> > <d_shripal>

> > wrote:

> > > Jai Jinendra,

> > >

> > > I knowa Guy having Debiliated Jupiter in 12th with

> > > Moon,However Sun and Mer in 6th house,is having

> > > illicit relationship with many woman of age

> > greater

> > > than him,always try to lure them through

> > emotionally

> > > and spends lots of money on them

> > >

> > > While on other hand there is hardly any

> > relationship

> > > with wife or speaks even sweetly,rather torcher

> > her

> > > and ask for money etc and stuff.Always demands for

> > Sex

> > > if not getting from other woman with whom he has

> > > relationship.Pathetic person,not ashamed of even

> > > saying such a things and having such a

> > > relationship.Total desperate person.Venus is

> > > debiliated and in Navamsa afflicted my Mars.

> > >

> > > But from outwards he acts very norn=mal and hides

> > all

> > > his feelings,especially for girls.If we see his

> > AL,?It

> > > is Libra and Venus in 12th,so Jupiter and moon in

> > 4th

> > > makes him possible to perceive others that he is

> > Good

> > > and even for sexual relationship he is albe to

> > show he

> > > is passionate and Good lover.

> > >

> > > But as Lagna lord afflicted with Ketu,debil Venus

> > in

> > > 8th and Debi Jupiter in 12th,puts all water when

> > > things actually comes front of those

> > specimen,actuall

> > > close entity will soon come to know he truth and I

> > > guess smart will take avantage of him and dump him

> > > down when find a better one and again he will all

> > come

> > > to his life full of grief.

> > >

> > > His bith data:13th August 1973

> > > Time:20.15

> > > Place:Pune,India

> > >

> > > I want some more thoughts on this chart.I know him

> > > through someone,But he doesn't know me.It will be

> > good

> > > specimen for a illicit relationship to judge.

> > >

> > >

> > > --- ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Tanvir ji,

> > > >

> > > > sorry for jumping in..

> > > >

> > > > but wht is to be seen particularly in

> > horo...means

> > > > it is said that

> > > > jupiter even if debilated gives positive

> > results.

> > > >

> > > > do saturn or mars and venus....as specified in

> > > > trimsamsa.are to be

> > > > seen particularly.

> > > >

> > > > kindly guide me

> > > >

> > > > thanks

> > > >

> > > > tarun..

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > "Tanvir"

> > > > <ultimate@s...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > As Ashutosh ji rightly said, Ju's aspect on

> > Lagna

> > > > cannot assure a

> > > > good character. I would say that even Ju's

> > presence

> > > > in lagna cannot

> > > > assure, rather it makes the matter MORE RISKY.

> > Ju

> > > > rules character and

> > > > honesty etc., and it's presence in lagna re

> > inforces

> > > > this side of Ju

> > > > and then a mere affliction (Or some impurity in

> > Ju's

> > > > lordship) can

> > > > make the person really very dishonest. This

> > > > principle of

> > > > reinforcement is what I have observed in my

> > little

> > > > learing and it

> > > > explains the misconcept of karaka bhava nasha

> > (or

> > > > whatever).

> > > > >

> > > > > I have seen charts like this. However I must

> > also

> > > > admit that not

> > > > Ju's presence in lagna means bad character

> > either.

> > > > >

> > > > > PS I must also say that the specific problems

> > in

> > > > marriage is often

> > > > hard to say - I can give an example like seeing

> > it's

> > > > chart it is

> > > > often hard to say that whether the person or

> > his/her

> > > > spouse is going

> > > > to sleep with others. It is always (or often)

> > very

> > > > hard to say. We

> > > > can say that some infedality the native will

> > > > experience in his/her

> > > > married life. This can come as his own action or

> > his

> > > > spouse's. People

> > > > put straight fw rules for this but I have tested

> > > > them and they do not

> > > > always work. Since the chance is 50-50 then a

> > guess

> > > > might even do.

> > > > But that's not the success. Sometimes I have

> > come

> > > > across typical

> > > > charts and have seen some common things that

> > lead to

> > > > breach of trust

> > > > in specifically WHO is going to do this (Either

> > > > native or the

> > > > spouse). A planets positional weakness, and

> > > > afflictional weakness etc

> > > > are to be considered differently in this matter

> > very

> > > > carefully. This

> > > > area is hard (At least to me) and would need

> > much

> > > > research, time etc.

> > > > to learn. May not be possible for me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes

> > > > > Tanvir

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Love is the beauty of the soul

> > >

> > >

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I am not much versed on the subject but feel to put my humble observation in

the Pune-Boys chart that his Pardara nakshtra 18 deg Shravan is fortified by

Guru 23 deg and Chandra 13 deg, covered eachh side by 5 deg and both being

soumy grah causing Gajkesari yoga with 7th drasti on 7th Lord Sun in 6th with

murcury - again a budhaditya yog. Lagna and 12th lord Saturn is with ketu in

5th house of love and passion besides offsprings - being a cold, slow and

philosophical yuti of Sat-Ketu, he may on the contrary be otherwise ( no

illicite relation).

In navamsa Venus-ketu yuti in 10th makes his activities unduly kalankit in

home and work space, if I am guessing right.

One has to take several pros and cons of numerous intricacies in atrology

before outright labelling som one characterless.

May lord jupiter shower lessing on all of us.

with best regards

shy

lakshmikary <lakshmikary > wrote:

Hare KrishnaDear Shripal,I wanted to add a few things.Jupiter in 12th doesnt

necessarally have anythign to do with illicite relationships. It can also mean

the person gives alot of money to children, or is seperated from children (as

in a divorce case)Jupiter gives good indications as a matter of fact Jupiters

aspect on mercury gives , chastity. Look in navamsa chart, moon and merc in

trines without aspect of jupiter gives loose morals.Does he drink, drinking

loosens up peoples morals and principles.Also,7th lord in 6th can give marraige

to a partner that one feels inimical to, or spouse can be sickly, i have several

charts were long marriages with this placement.In general, Jupiter gives

morality.Look and see if Jupiter aspects lagna, LL, or what planets if any are

in 10th from moon,etcSaturn and Mars give coldness,

cruelty and anger, frustration.Im sorry didnt have chance to look at this

specific chart.Look at some charts of serial rapists for more detials on

creeps.Many were also cruel to animals in childhood.Look to 2nd from UL, and

8th from UL to see results on marriages,see how many planets are aspecting A7

for potential liasons,be very careful in examining peoples charts in this

regard,as some people may go through a "phase" and not ever do it again.etc/ALl

the best ,Lakshmivedic astrology, Shripal

<d_shripal> wrote:> Jai Jinendra,> > I would like to add what you said,As

you said moral> character is down,7th lord in 6th house,does his> marriage is

going to break up or they will live> throughout life may be for just a sake of

parents or> for nothing or for world and continue a relationship> outside

marriage.> > I want som more view,before i

reach to any> conclusion.In Navmasa Venus in capricon and Mars 8th> aspect and

Jupiter debi in 12th,even will make him go> to slute or prostitutes.Above all

Venus debi,Person> doesn't know what is Love.> > --- skumar_varanasi

<skumar_varanasi>> wrote:> > > Jai Sai Ram> > > > Hi > > I will try to

share my views about the illicit> > relationships in a > > male native chart.I

think the jupiter in 12H will> > make the native > > dishonest and with

questionalble character.For a> > male i think its > > the Venus which can give

the chances of illicit> > relationships by > > virtue of its placement like in

8H,in Libra Mool> > trikon,7L with > > Venus,7L in 6,8,12H,2L with

venus,conjoining of> > malefics with venus > > or 7L.> > > > The running of

Dashas and anterdashas of venus under> > malefics like > > venus anterdasha in

raahu dasha will give illicit> > relationships.> > Learned Guru's pls correct

if i am wroung.> > > > Regards,> > > > Sunil Kumar Varanasi> > > > --- In

vedic astrology, Shripal> > <d_shripal> > > wrote:> > >

Jai Jinendra,> > > > > > I knowa Guy having Debiliated Jupiter in 12th with> >

> Moon,However Sun and Mer in 6th house,is having> > > illicit relationship

with many woman of age> > greater> > > than him,always try to lure them

through> > emotionally> > > and spends lots of money on them> > > > > > While

on other hand there is hardly any> > relationship> > > with wife or speaks even

sweetly,rather

torcher> > her> > > and ask for money etc and stuff.Always demands for> > Sex> >

> if not getting from other woman with whom he has> > > relationship.Pathetic

person,not ashamed of even> > > saying such a things and having such a> > >

relationship.Total desperate person.Venus is> > > debiliated and in Navamsa

afflicted my Mars.> > > > > > But from outwards he acts very norn=mal and

hides> > all> > > his feelings,especially for girls.If we see his> > AL,?It> >

> is Libra and Venus in 12th,so Jupiter and moon in> > 4th> > > makes him

possible to perceive others that he is> > Good> > > and even for sexual

relationship he is albe to> > show he> > > is passionate and Good lover.> > > >

> > But as Lagna lord afflicted with

Ketu,debil Venus> > in> > > 8th and Debi Jupiter in 12th,puts all water when> >

> things actually comes front of those> > specimen,actuall> > > close entity

will soon come to know he truth and I> > > guess smart will take avantage of

him and dump him> > > down when find a better one and again he will all> >

come> > > to his life full of grief.> > > > > > His bith data:13th August 1973>

> > Time:20.15> > > Place:Pune,India> > > > > > I want some more thoughts on

this chart.I know him> > > through someone,But he doesn't know me.It will be> >

good> > > specimen for a illicit relationship to judge.> > > > > > > > > --- ~

Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Tanvir ji,> >

> > > > > > sorry for jumping in..> > > > > > > > but wht is to be seen

particularly in> > horo...means> > > > it is said that > > > > jupiter even if

debilated gives positive> > results.> > > > > > > > do saturn or mars and

venus....as specified in> > > > trimsamsa.are to be > > > > seen particularly.>

> > > > > > > kindly guide me> > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > tarun..> > >

> > > > > > > > > ,> > "Tanvir"> > > >

<ultimate@s...> > > > > wrote:> > > > > As Ashutosh ji rightly said, Ju's

aspect on> > Lagna> > > > cannot assure a

> > > > good character. I would say that even Ju's> > presence> > > > in lagna

cannot > > > > assure, rather it makes the matter MORE RISKY.> > Ju> > > >

rules character and > > > > honesty etc., and it's presence in lagna re> >

inforces> > > > this side of Ju > > > > and then a mere affliction (Or some

impurity in> > Ju's> > > > lordship) can > > > > make the person really very

dishonest. This> > > > principle of > > > > reinforcement is what I have

observed in my> > little> > > > learing and it > > > > explains the misconcept

of karaka bhava nasha> > (or> > > > whatever).> > > > > > > > > > I have seen

charts like this. However I must> > also> >

> > admit that not > > > > Ju's presence in lagna means bad character> >

either.> > > > > > > > > > PS I must also say that the specific problems> > in>

> > > marriage is often > > > > hard to say - I can give an example like seeing>

> it's> > > > chart it is > > > > often hard to say that whether the person or>

> his/her> > > > spouse is going > > > > to sleep with others. It is always (or

often)> > very> > > > hard to say. We > > > > can say that some infedality the

native will> > > > experience in his/her > > > > married life. This can come as

his own action or> > his> > > > spouse's. People > > > > put straight fw rules

for this but I have tested> > > >

them and they do not > > > > always work. Since the chance is 50-50 then a> >

guess> > > > might even do. > > > > But that's not the success. Sometimes I

have> > come> > > > across typical > > > > charts and have seen some common

things that> > lead to> > > > breach of trust > > > > in specifically WHO is

going to do this (Either> > > > native or the > > > > spouse). A planets

positional weakness, and> > > > afflictional weakness etc > > > > are to be

considered differently in this matter> > very> > > > carefully. This > > > >

area is hard (At least to me) and would need> > much> > > > research, time etc.

> > > > to learn. May not be possible for me.> > > > > > > >

> > Best wishes> > > > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> Love is the beauty of the soul> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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