Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 DEAR MEMBERS, My query is related to the effects of the 12th house saturn , 12th house is 7th from the sixth house thus a partner to the sixth house matters like enemies etc. thus bad. however the saturn is supposed to diminish the bad effects of 6,8,12 houses however it flourishes the effects of the 7th house from it.THEREFORE in the 12th house saturn house cut down all forms of losses however should help flourish the enemies from its 7th aspect to the 6th house which very commonly accepted by astrolgers, however my question is if the enemies flourish how will the losses be curtailed. Learned gurus please also shed light on the placement of placement of saturn with jupiter in 12th in virgo, how does conjunction of jupiter affect saturn's tendencies. BEST REGARDS, PRANJAL SWARUP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Dear Pranjal, Among dushtana bhavas (6,8,12); 12th house contains least malignity. It stands for our expenditure attidute, charity, loses, hospitalisation, lonliness, sleep, bedroom, and sextual pleasure. As derivative house, it shows, profession/social status of coborns, dhan of jetha brathru/mitra, own spouse ailment, longevity of offspring, mother's luck, and spouse of rivals(enemies) etc. Saturn is supposed to restrict or curtail the effect of house where it occupies and sustain the significance of house whom it aspects. General effect from Jyotish Classics are; native may incur in wasteful expenditure, poor sleeping habit, sinful deeds, lose of pregnancy, financial trouble, confront/destroy enemies and live in foreign lands. If 2nd lord is simultaneously afflicted then 12th Saturn may break educational prospects and produces differences with family memebers. If 9th lord and Sun is weak then 12th Saturn may bound the native to suffer from/due to father or teachers. If Moon is afflicted then 12th Saturn may not permit to enjoy peaceful sleep. You further asked, effect of Sat+Jup in 12th for Virgo ascendant. It is risky even misleading to conclude result on the basis of just one conjuction. Anyhow, for mentioned case, Saturn holds both malefic and benefic lordship for Virgo lagna whereas Jupiter is considered functional malefic on account of kendaradhipati. Well, 7th lord in 12th with 6th lord is not good. Though it is good for coborns/cousins and mother. Loses or litigation due to governmental action (tax, dues, bilings etc) may realize subject to activation of dasha and transit. Children may confront some trouble, unless other supportive factors are absent in the chart. Sincerely, M.Imran --- PRANJAL SWARUP <coolpranjal wrote: > DEAR MEMBERS, > My query is related to the effects of the 12th > house saturn , 12th > house is 7th from the sixth house thus a partner to > the sixth house > matters like enemies etc. thus bad. however the > saturn is supposed to > diminish the bad effects of 6,8,12 houses however it > flourishes the > effects of the 7th house from it.THEREFORE in the > 12th house saturn > house cut down all forms of losses however should > help flourish the > enemies from its 7th aspect to the 6th house which > very commonly > accepted by astrolgers, however my question is if > the enemies flourish > how will the losses be curtailed. > Learned gurus please also shed light on the > placement of placement > of saturn with jupiter in 12th in virgo, how does > conjunction of > jupiter affect saturn's tendencies. > BEST REGARDS, > PRANJAL SWARUP > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Dear Mr Imran, One statement in ur message is of extreme interest to me... "Saturn is supposed to restrict or curtail the effect of house where it occupies and sustain the significance of house whom it aspects." Are you implying that saturn afflicts differently by aspect and conjunction? For eg: For Pisces ascendant, Saturn as 12&11L in the 3rd house is bad for 3rd house significations but his aspect on 5th and 9th is good for the indications of those house.(I am ignoring his aspect on 12th for this discussion,since ,he himself happens to be the lord and hence his aspect is good) This is different from my understanding that the aspect or conjunction of a Saturn (disposed as mentioned above) is harmful for both 5,9 and 3rd house, and hence my interest in your statement. I would very much appreciate if you can elaborate a little more on the principle that you touched on. Regards, Suresh >Muhammad Imran <astroimran >vedic astrology >vedic astrology >Re: [vedic astrology] 12th HOUSE and SATURN >Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:46:19 -0700 (PDT) > >Dear Pranjal, > >Among dushtana bhavas (6,8,12); 12th house contains >least malignity. It stands for our expenditure >attidute, charity, loses, hospitalisation, lonliness, >sleep, bedroom, and sextual pleasure. As derivative >house, it shows, profession/social status of coborns, >dhan of jetha brathru/mitra, own spouse ailment, >longevity of offspring, mother's luck, and spouse of >rivals(enemies) etc. > >Saturn is supposed to restrict or curtail the effect >of house where it occupies and sustain the >significance of house whom it aspects. > >General effect from Jyotish Classics are; native may >incur in wasteful expenditure, poor sleeping habit, >sinful deeds, lose of pregnancy, financial trouble, >confront/destroy enemies and live in foreign lands. > >If 2nd lord is simultaneously afflicted then 12th >Saturn may break educational prospects and produces >differences with family memebers. > >If 9th lord and Sun is weak then 12th Saturn may bound >the native to suffer from/due to father or teachers. > >If Moon is afflicted then 12th Saturn may not permit >to enjoy peaceful sleep. > >You further asked, effect of Sat+Jup in 12th for Virgo >ascendant. It is risky even misleading to conclude >result on the basis of just one conjuction. > >Anyhow, for mentioned case, Saturn holds both malefic >and benefic lordship for Virgo lagna whereas Jupiter >is considered functional malefic on account of >kendaradhipati. Well, 7th lord in 12th with 6th lord >is not good. Though it is good for coborns/cousins and >mother. Loses or litigation due to governmental action >(tax, dues, bilings etc) may realize subject to >activation of dasha and transit. Children may confront >some trouble, unless other supportive factors are >absent in the chart. > >Sincerely, >M.Imran > > > > > > > > > > > >--- PRANJAL SWARUP <coolpranjal wrote: > > > DEAR MEMBERS, > > My query is related to the effects of the 12th > > house saturn , 12th > > house is 7th from the sixth house thus a partner to > > the sixth house > > matters like enemies etc. thus bad. however the > > saturn is supposed to > > diminish the bad effects of 6,8,12 houses however it > > flourishes the > > effects of the 7th house from it.THEREFORE in the > > 12th house saturn > > house cut down all forms of losses however should > > help flourish the > > enemies from its 7th aspect to the 6th house which > > very commonly > > accepted by astrolgers, however my question is if > > the enemies flourish > > how will the losses be curtailed. > > Learned gurus please also shed light on the > > placement of placement > > of saturn with jupiter in 12th in virgo, how does > > conjunction of > > jupiter affect saturn's tendencies. > > BEST REGARDS, > > PRANJAL SWARUP > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Good explanation. Does Saturn always curtail the effect of the house where it occupies. The reason I read somewhere that Saturn is good in 10th and 11th. Karoke Bhava nasha, Karuka bhavo bridhi. I appreciate your input in this regard. Thank you again with personal regards SaumyaMuhammad Imran <astroimran > wrote: Dear Pranjal,Among dushtana bhavas (6,8,12); 12th house containsleast malignity. It stands for our expenditureattidute, charity, loses, hospitalisation, lonliness,sleep, bedroom, and sextual pleasure. As derivativehouse, it shows, profession/social status of coborns,dhan of jetha brathru/mitra, own spouse ailment,longevity of offspring, mother's luck, and spouse ofrivals(enemies) etc. Saturn is supposed to restrict or curtail the effectof house where it occupies and sustain thesignificance of house whom it aspects. General effect from Jyotish Classics are; native mayincur in wasteful expenditure, poor sleeping habit,sinful deeds, lose of pregnancy, financial trouble,confront/destroy enemies and live in foreign lands.If 2nd lord is simultaneously afflicted then 12thSaturn may break educational prospects and producesdifferences with family memebers.If 9th lord and Sun is weak then 12th Saturn may boundthe native to suffer from/due to father or teachers.If Moon is afflicted then 12th Saturn may not permitto enjoy peaceful sleep.You further asked, effect of Sat+Jup in 12th for Virgoascendant. It is risky even misleading to concluderesult on the basis of just one conjuction. Anyhow, for mentioned case, Saturn holds both maleficand benefic lordship for Virgo lagna whereas Jupiteris considered functional malefic on account ofkendaradhipati. Well, 7th lord in 12th with 6th lordis not good. Though it is good for coborns/cousins andmother. Loses or litigation due to governmental action(tax, dues, bilings etc) may realize subject toactivation of dasha and transit. Children may confrontsome trouble, unless other supportive factors areabsent in the chart.Sincerely,M.Imran--- PRANJAL SWARUP wrote:> DEAR MEMBERS,> My query is related to the effects of the 12th> house saturn , 12th > house is 7th from the sixth house thus a partner to> the sixth house > matters like enemies etc. thus bad. however the> saturn is supposed to > diminish the bad effects of 6,8,12 houses however it> flourishes the > effects of the 7th house from it.THEREFORE in the> 12th house saturn > house cut down all forms of losses however should> help flourish the > enemies from its 7th aspect to the 6th house which> very commonly > accepted by astrolgers, however my question is if> the enemies flourish > how will the losses be curtailed. > Learned gurus please also shed light on the> placement of placement > of saturn with jupiter in 12th in virgo, how does> conjunction of > jupiter affect saturn's tendencies.> BEST REGARDS,> PRANJAL SWARUP> > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:vedic astrology/<*> To from this group, send an email to:vedic astrology<*> Your use of is subject to:Saumya Ray ChaudhuriIMTECH,Sector 39A, Chandigarh-160036ph 0172 690751(lab)Do You ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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