Maran Karaka Sthan of Budh: Shri Ramanarayanan

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Dear Ramanarayanan ji

 

As vidya dhan is important than all other,your analogy of

Kubera/treasure/hidden is insightful.But is Kubera and Budha

specifically related because of trade/money etc.

Jarasandha example showing karaka parivartana effect is very good.Thus

can i assume grahas cannot be marked as bad due to Maranakaraka

position alone.

I think your mail is pointing towards the importance of mutual

dispositions or tranfer/parivartana to make the effects full.

Like interchange preventing reunion of Jarasandhas torn portions.

 

I have more doubts.Sun when placed in first will give karaka bhava

naash results.

Under Bhagya gogas,i have read that,the graha which is in the 12th

from Lagna will give bhagya according to its karakatwa.

Thus sun as karaka for lagna,father etc should give bhagya for those

matters?.Thus the point made regarding karaka parivartana makes

matters more clear.

 

Respect

Pradeep

vedic astrology, rama narayanan

<sree88ganesha> wrote:

>

> SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

> AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

>

> Dear Vijayadas,

>

> Namaste. Buda comes under the domain of Kubera whose

> sampath is akin to treasure. You know treasure is

> always hidden and seekers of treasure are ruled by

> matsarya a weakness blessed by Buda.

>

> As regards marana karaka sthana you think of

> Jarasandha and his death. Bhima tore him apart number

> of times but everytime he did that the torn portions

> attached easily and Jarasanda was back with full

> vigour. It was Krsna who suggested Bhima to change the

> positions of torn portions as wrong sides do not

> attract/attach. Take the karakatwa of planets. Karaka

> for 1st house is Sun while the karaka of 12th house is

> Sani. When you place Sun and Sani in 12th house and

> 1st house respectively they face a situation similar

> to that of Jarasandha - a marana karaka avastha is it

> not!

>

> There is great deal of knowledge involved in this

> karaka parivartana.

>

> Best wishes.

>

> Astrologically & spiritually yours,

> p.s.ramanarayanan.

>

>

>

> --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep>

> wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear respected members

>

> In local parlance there is a saying -''Maranja Budhan

> Niranju

> nalkum''.It means hidden budha will give in

> full.Hidden houses may be

> 8,6.Also 12?

> I feel mercury being a quick planet may get distracted

> easily.

> Hence himslef in a hidden position(i feel kendras are

> the most exposed

> areas with respect to our lagna or oursleves.Trikonas

> may be the

> additional or boosting areas.

> When budha is less distracted ,he can oncentrate well

> and give good

> vidya.This is my personal understanding of the

> quotation and seek

> learned members opinion.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

>

>

> vedic astrology,

> "SuryaViswanadham"

> <vishwanatham@g...> wrote:

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Dear Samal,

> >

> > The discussion is about a definition. Is Mer said to

> be in MKS in the

> > 4th or in anyother house. The Q is something

> simmilar to whether Jup

> > is putrakaraka or some other planet?

> >

> >

> > That is the case here. If you can quote anything

> with references to

> > classical texts, it will be useful for the

> discussion.

> >

> >

> >

> > (You know how Mer was born to Chandra & Tara - you

> know the story?)

> >

> > regards

> > Surya

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "psamal25"

> <psamal25>

> > wrote:

> > > Person with Mercury in 4th should be a mother's

> pet. Afterall which

> > > mother will not like a son inclined to earn

> knowledge rather than

> > > wondering around. However, do people study better

> in home comfort

> > or

> > > they study better in a school/hostel/gurukul? The

> distraction from

> > > getting the best of knowledges makes such a person

> unsatisfied.

> > > I also read somewhere, 10th house and 4th house

> are like king and

> > > minister for the lagnesh. Even if we the king is

> weak a strong and

> > > inteligent minister will definitely help the

> subject.

> > >

> > > Having talked about 4th Mercury, can we say

> Mercury in other houses

> > > is better? I don't think so. We need a complete

> view of a chart. My

> > > langesh budha in Leo does not give me the best

> perception and

> > > intelegence I wish to have. Why? It is aspected by

> Saturn.

> > >

> > > P. Samal

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > I think there can be so many things which can

> modify "merc in 4th"

> > > > results. I dont know much of the astrology, But

> In my case, For

> > > Libra

> > > > lagna, I have merc (9L-12L) placed in 4th along

> with exalted

> > > > Mars(2L-7L). There is also parivartan of 4L Sani

> (in 9th)with 9L

> > > > merc(in 4th). Also, In navamsha merc is again in

> 4th along with

> > > > exalted moon (which happens to be my AK or in

> this case as its

> > > > navamsha, 'Karakamsa'). With all this, I have

> been told, My coming

> > > > merc mahadasa will be good. I should expect some

> leadership

> > > > opportunities coming as merc is with exalted

> mars forming Ruchak

> > > Yoga

> > > > and gains in foreign land and happiniess.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > - Kaushik.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology,

> "sanjayprabhakaran"

> > > > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:

> > > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > > Dear Surya,

> > > > > Good point you mentioned Jyataka Parijata on

> this, Vidyanatha

> > > calls

> > > > > it Viphala Or Fruitless position.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyway, When you mentioned Mercury Dasa and

> Mercury in 4th. My

> > > take

> > > > > is that all that's mentioned by Sages do come

> right. But, A BIG

> > > BUT

> > > > > here, the point is When?! will it come true?.

> The timing is

> > > > > essential. All that mentioned need not come

> true in the whole

> > > dasa.

> > > > > Mercury's results in 4th will come only in

> last part of the

> > > dasa,If he

> > > > > is benefic. And if malefic then in the first

> part of the dasa.

> > > > >

> > > > > But Viphala or fruitless to whom? is the next

> question you have

> > to

> > > > answer.

> > > > >

> > > > > Warm Regards

> > > > > Sanjay P

> > > > >

> > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology,

> "SuryaViswanadham"

> > > > > <vishwanatham@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Utpal & Partha,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i am not much worried about logic, i've Mer

> in the 4th and

> > the

> > > dasa

> > > > > > is running (lot of learning is taking place,

> but i am not

> > happy

> > > > > > because i want to get out and do my bit,

> which is not

> > > happening).

> > > > > > Also, Jataka Parijata gives that Mer is bad

> in the 4th (in

> > COVA

> > > > > > Sanjay also says that as per some experts

> 4th is a bad

> > > placement for

> > > > > > Mer (could be a hint).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Partha can learn from the horse's mouth and

> enlighten us.

> > i'll

> > > > > > certainly be happy to learn that Mer is not

> bad in the 4th

> > > house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > Surya

> > > > > > vedic astrology,

> "utpal pathak"

> > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Partha,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You also have a v.good counter logic. but

> most of the

> > > students

> > > > > > > (children) will not like when they are

> asked to study at

> > home

> > > then

> > > > > > > playing outside. i think that's Unhappy

> situation for Budha

> > > but as

> > > > > > > you said it may not be totally bad such as

> 'Maran Karka'

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > utpal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology,

> Partha Sarathy

> > > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Sir

> > > > > > > > Mercury is a student, he is vidya

> karaka. I can

> > understand

> > > that

> > > > > > > he rules

> > > > > > > > play and playgrounds, but that is what

> kids do. But they

> > > also

> > > > > > like

> > > > > > > to study

> > > > > > > > to get good marks. This is not an

> acceptable logic to

> > kill

> > > > > > mercury

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > fourth.

> > > > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > > > partha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 5/25/05, SuryaViswanadham

> <vishwanatham@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Partha,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In his mp3 audio lessons, PVR did

> mention this as a

> > > private

> > > > > > > lesson from

> > > > > > > > > Sanjay Ji . Mercury wants to get out

> and play, 4th type

> > > of

> > > > > > > sitting and

> > > > > > > > > reading (learning ) is not liked by

> Mer.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This is how i understood it.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > Surya

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> vedic astrology, Partha Sarathy

> > > > > > > <partvinu@g...>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag

> > > > > > > > > > Can you point out the mail message

> number where he

> > said

> > > this?

> > > > > > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > > > > > partha

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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