Guest guest Posted May 27, 2005 Report Share Posted May 27, 2005 Dear Narasimha, You are right. Jataka Parijata does say 7th house for Mercury. It also fives additional conditions for the Marana effects to occur in these houses which are,"..tasminpaapayute.athavaa paapadrishte.arineechasthe durbale duKkhamaapnuyaat". So the planet will have to be in Marana Karana Sthana with a malefic or aspected by malefic or in Neecha Rasi and weak for it to give sorrow (dukkha). Sanjay, perhaps, relies on Sthana vishesha where planets can not give their effects and where the condition of being with malefic etc. are not ,apparently, applicable. Incidentally it is interesting that the first Maranakarana Sthana shlokas appear in adhyaaya, which deals with Kalachakra dasha(Adhyaaya 17), whereas one not requiring malefic association as a condition appears in Adhyaaya 2 related to Graha swarupa. The relevant shlokas are: jatk pairjat jätaka pärijäta AXyay 2 adhyäya 2 kamavnInNdnraizyata> isteNÊpuÇamrvN*mana>, kämävanénandanaräçiyätäù sitenduputrämaravandyamänäù| AiròdaSte=ioljatke;u sda=òmSw>ziniròd> Syat.52. ariñöadäste'khilajätakeñu sadä'ñöamasthaùçaniriñöadaù syäta||52|| Indicating bhavaas where planets are incapable of giving their effects. AXyay 17 adhyäya 17 æat&Swangtae jIvae darSwangt> k…j>, bhrätåsthänagato jévo därasthänagataù kujaù| twa jNmgtae mNdae ra÷nRvm raizg>.34. tathä janmagato mando rähurnavama räçigaù||34|| cNÔae=òm¢h< yat> sUyaeR ir:)g&h< gt>, candro'ñöamagrahaà yätaù süryo riñphagåhaà gataù| bux> sÝmÉavSwae ÉagRv> zÇuraizg>.35. budhaù saptamabhävastho bhärgavaù çatruräçigaù||35|| #Tyev< mr[swan< tiSmNpapyute=wva, ityevaà maraëasthänaà tasminpäpayute'thavä| pap†òe=irnIcSwe ÊbRle Ê>omaßuyat!.36. päpadåñöe'rinécasthe durbale duùkhamäpnuyät||36|| Indicating Bhavas whetre malefic association etc. are required. I have used sanskrit99 fonts on alternate lines of the shloka. Chandrashekhar. Narasimha P.V.R. Rao wrote: Namaste, On vedic astrology , there has been a discussion on whether Mercury's marana karaka sthana is 7th or 4th and on the significance of marana karaka sthanas. Sanjay ji gave 7th as Mercury's marana karaka sthana earlier, but changed it to 4th recently. I am not sure of the classical basis he has for 4th, but the reverred classic "Jataka Parijatam" I think mentions 7th for Mercury. JHora uses 7th and not 4th. I have explained the basis and significance of marana karaka sthana in one of my lessons (link below). I will summarize quickly. These are the houses where the planets are most uncomfortable/feel awkward. To do justice to the house they occupy, they have to work extra hard and, in the process, the houses they own suffer. Thus, houses/karakatwa owned by planets in marana karaka sthana suffer. Sun is the significator of ego. He feels awkward in the 12th house of overcoming ego. Jupiter likes peace. He feels awkward in the 3rd house of weapons and boldness. Mars is the significator of wars and fighting. He is very comfortable in the 6th house. But, if you place him in the 7th house and tell him to give somebody a relationship and marriage, he will feel awkward about it. Similarly, Venus is the giver of love, relationships and marriage. If you place him in the 6th house of war and bachelorhood, he will be most uncomfortable there. Rahu, the planet of adharma, naturally feels awkward in the 9th house of dharma, religion and temple. Saturn is the giver of disease and suffering. If you place him in the 1st house of health and tell him to take care of someone's health, he will naturally feel awkward. Thus, marana karaka sthanas of planets are places where they are not comfortable and where they have to work extra hard to do justice. In the process, other promises of the planet suffer. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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