Maran Karaka Sthan of Budh: PVR & other Gurus

May 25, 2005

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Kaushik,

As you said it is difficult to pinpoint one factor and attribute the

results to it. Always there are multiple factors and cross inflences.

That is the reason why we should stick to what clasics say. So that

whenever, there is confusion, we get back to basics to start the

analysis all over.

Your Mer is in exchange with Sat (Yoga karaka for your lagna), so in

all likelyhood will give good results.

regards

Surya

vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" <itsmekk2>

wrote:

> Dear Members,

>

> I think there can be so many things which can modify "merc in 4th"

> results. I dont know much of the astrology, But In my case, For

Libra

> lagna, I have merc (9L-12L) placed in 4th along with exalted

> Mars(2L-7L). There is also parivartan of 4L Sani (in 9th)with 9L

> merc(in 4th). Also, In navamsha merc is again in 4th along with

> exalted moon (which happens to be my AK or in this case as its

> navamsha, 'Karakamsa'). With all this, I have been told, My coming

> merc mahadasa will be good. I should expect some leadership

> opportunities coming as merc is with exalted mars forming Ruchak

Yoga

> and gains in foreign land and happiniess.

>

> Regards,

> - Kaushik.

>

> vedic astrology, "sanjayprabhakaran"

> <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:

> > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > Dear Surya,

> > Good point you mentioned Jyataka Parijata on this, Vidyanatha

calls

> > it Viphala Or Fruitless position.

> >

> > Anyway, When you mentioned Mercury Dasa and Mercury in 4th. My

take

> > is that all that's mentioned by Sages do come right. But, A BIG

BUT

> > here, the point is When?! will it come true?. The timing is

> > essential. All that mentioned need not come true in the whole

dasa.

> > Mercury's results in 4th will come only in last part of the

dasa,If he

> > is benefic. And if malefic then in the first part of the dasa.

> >

> > But Viphala or fruitless to whom? is the next question you have to

> answer.

> >

> > Warm Regards

> > Sanjay P

> >

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >

> > vedic astrology, "SuryaViswanadham"

> > <vishwanatham@g...> wrote:

> > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > >

> > > Dear Utpal & Partha,

> > >

> > > i am not much worried about logic, i've Mer in the 4th and the

dasa

> > > is running (lot of learning is taking place, but i am not happy

> > > because i want to get out and do my bit, which is not

happening).

> > > Also, Jataka Parijata gives that Mer is bad in the 4th (in COVA

> > > Sanjay also says that as per some experts 4th is a bad

placement for

> > > Mer (could be a hint).

> > >

> > > Partha can learn from the horse's mouth and enlighten us. i'll

> > > certainly be happy to learn that Mer is not bad in the 4th

house.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Surya

> > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

> > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > Dear Partha,

> > > >

> > > > You also have a v.good counter logic. but most of the

students

> > > > (children) will not like when they are asked to study at home

then

> > > > playing outside. i think that's Unhappy situation for Budha

but as

> > > > you said it may not be totally bad such as 'Maran Karka'

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > >

> > > > utpal

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, Partha Sarathy

> > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Sir

> > > > > Mercury is a student, he is vidya karaka. I can understand

that

> > > > he rules

> > > > > play and playgrounds, but that is what kids do. But they

also

> > > like

> > > > to study

> > > > > to get good marks. This is not an acceptable logic to kill

> > > mercury

> > > > in

> > > > > fourth.

> > > > > best wishes

> > > > > partha

> > > > >

> > > > > On 5/25/05, SuryaViswanadham <vishwanatham@g...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Partha,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In his mp3 audio lessons, PVR did mention this as a

private

> > > > lesson from

> > > > > > Sanjay Ji . Mercury wants to get out and play, 4th type

of

> > > > sitting and

> > > > > > reading (learning ) is not liked by Mer.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is how i understood it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > Surya

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, Partha Sarathy

> > > > <partvinu@g...>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Anurag

> > > > > > > Can you point out the mail message number where he said

this?

> > > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > > partha

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Group info: vedic-

> > > > astrology/info.html

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > > > >

> > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||

> > > > > > Links

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > V.Partha Sarathy,

> > > > > partvinu.blogspot.com <http://partvinu.blogspot.com>

> > > > >

> > > > > All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a

man

> > > > speaks or

> > > > > acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man

speaks or

> > > > acts with a

> > > > > pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that

never

> > > > leaves him.

> > > > > -----Buddha

> > > > >

> > > > > Plot.no.71

> > > > > Road No.3

> > > > > Nagarjuna Hills

> > > > > Hyderabad

> > > > > India-500 082

May 26, 2005

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Samal,

The discussion is about a definition. Is Mer said to be in MKS in the

4th or in anyother house. The Q is something simmilar to whether Jup

is putrakaraka or some other planet?

That is the case here. If you can quote anything with references to

classical texts, it will be useful for the discussion.

(You know how Mer was born to Chandra & Tara - you know the story?)

regards

Surya

vedic astrology, "psamal25" <psamal25>

wrote:

> Person with Mercury in 4th should be a mother's pet. Afterall which

> mother will not like a son inclined to earn knowledge rather than

> wondering around. However, do people study better in home comfort

or

> they study better in a school/hostel/gurukul? The distraction from

> getting the best of knowledges makes such a person unsatisfied.

> I also read somewhere, 10th house and 4th house are like king and

> minister for the lagnesh. Even if we the king is weak a strong and

> inteligent minister will definitely help the subject.

>

> Having talked about 4th Mercury, can we say Mercury in other houses

> is better? I don't think so. We need a complete view of a chart. My

> langesh budha in Leo does not give me the best perception and

> intelegence I wish to have. Why? It is aspected by Saturn.

>

> P. Samal

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > I think there can be so many things which can modify "merc in 4th"

> > results. I dont know much of the astrology, But In my case, For

> Libra

> > lagna, I have merc (9L-12L) placed in 4th along with exalted

> > Mars(2L-7L). There is also parivartan of 4L Sani (in 9th)with 9L

> > merc(in 4th). Also, In navamsha merc is again in 4th along with

> > exalted moon (which happens to be my AK or in this case as its

> > navamsha, 'Karakamsa'). With all this, I have been told, My coming

> > merc mahadasa will be good. I should expect some leadership

> > opportunities coming as merc is with exalted mars forming Ruchak

> Yoga

> > and gains in foreign land and happiniess.

> >

> > Regards,

> > - Kaushik.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "sanjayprabhakaran"

> > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:

> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > Dear Surya,

> > > Good point you mentioned Jyataka Parijata on this, Vidyanatha

> calls

> > > it Viphala Or Fruitless position.

> > >

> > > Anyway, When you mentioned Mercury Dasa and Mercury in 4th. My

> take

> > > is that all that's mentioned by Sages do come right. But, A BIG

> BUT

> > > here, the point is When?! will it come true?. The timing is

> > > essential. All that mentioned need not come true in the whole

> dasa.

> > > Mercury's results in 4th will come only in last part of the

> dasa,If he

> > > is benefic. And if malefic then in the first part of the dasa.

> > >

> > > But Viphala or fruitless to whom? is the next question you have

to

> > answer.

> > >

> > > Warm Regards

> > > Sanjay P

> > >

> > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "SuryaViswanadham"

> > > <vishwanatham@g...> wrote:

> > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > >

> > > > Dear Utpal & Partha,

> > > >

> > > > i am not much worried about logic, i've Mer in the 4th and

the

> dasa

> > > > is running (lot of learning is taking place, but i am not

happy

> > > > because i want to get out and do my bit, which is not

> happening).

> > > > Also, Jataka Parijata gives that Mer is bad in the 4th (in

COVA

> > > > Sanjay also says that as per some experts 4th is a bad

> placement for

> > > > Mer (could be a hint).

> > > >

> > > > Partha can learn from the horse's mouth and enlighten us.

i'll

> > > > certainly be happy to learn that Mer is not bad in the 4th

> house.

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > Surya

> > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

> > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Partha,

> > > > >

> > > > > You also have a v.good counter logic. but most of the

> students

> > > > > (children) will not like when they are asked to study at

home

> then

> > > > > playing outside. i think that's Unhappy situation for Budha

> but as

> > > > > you said it may not be totally bad such as 'Maran Karka'

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > utpal

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, Partha Sarathy

> > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Sir

> > > > > > Mercury is a student, he is vidya karaka. I can

understand

> that

> > > > > he rules

> > > > > > play and playgrounds, but that is what kids do. But they

> also

> > > > like

> > > > > to study

> > > > > > to get good marks. This is not an acceptable logic to

kill

> > > > mercury

> > > > > in

> > > > > > fourth.

> > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > partha

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 5/25/05, SuryaViswanadham <vishwanatham@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Partha,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In his mp3 audio lessons, PVR did mention this as a

> private

> > > > > lesson from

> > > > > > > Sanjay Ji . Mercury wants to get out and play, 4th type

> of

> > > > > sitting and

> > > > > > > reading (learning ) is not liked by Mer.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This is how i understood it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > Surya

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology, Partha Sarathy

> > > > > <partvinu@g...>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Anurag

> > > > > > > > Can you point out the mail message number where he

said

> this?

> > > > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > > > partha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Group info: vedic-

> > > > > astrology/info.html

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||

> > > > > > > Links

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --

> > > > > > V.Partha Sarathy,

> > > > > > partvinu.blogspot.com <http://partvinu.blogspot.com>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If

a

> man

> > > > > speaks or

> > > > > > acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man

> speaks or

> > > > > acts with a

> > > > > > pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that

> never

> > > > > leaves him.

> > > > > > -----Buddha

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Plot.no.71

> > > > > > Road No.3

> > > > > > Nagarjuna Hills

> > > > > > Hyderabad

> > > > > > India-500 082

May 26, 2005

Dear respected members

In local parlance there is a saying -''Maranja Budhan Niranju

nalkum''.It means hidden budha will give in full.Hidden houses may be

8,6.Also 12?

I feel mercury being a quick planet may get distracted easily.

Hence himslef in a hidden position(i feel kendras are the most exposed

areas with respect to our lagna or oursleves.Trikonas may be the

additional or boosting areas.

When budha is less distracted ,he can oncentrate well and give good

vidya.This is my personal understanding of the quotation and seek

learned members opinion.

Regds

Pradeep

vedic astrology, "SuryaViswanadham"

<vishwanatham@g...> wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Dear Samal,

>

> The discussion is about a definition. Is Mer said to be in MKS in the

> 4th or in anyother house. The Q is something simmilar to whether Jup

> is putrakaraka or some other planet?

>

> That is the case here. If you can quote anything with references to

> classical texts, it will be useful for the discussion.

>

> (You know how Mer was born to Chandra & Tara - you know the story?)

>

> regards

> Surya

>

> vedic astrology, "psamal25" <psamal25>

> wrote:

> > Person with Mercury in 4th should be a mother's pet. Afterall which

> > mother will not like a son inclined to earn knowledge rather than

> > wondering around. However, do people study better in home comfort

> or

> > they study better in a school/hostel/gurukul? The distraction from

> > getting the best of knowledges makes such a person unsatisfied.

> > I also read somewhere, 10th house and 4th house are like king and

> > minister for the lagnesh. Even if we the king is weak a strong and

> > inteligent minister will definitely help the subject.

> >

> > Having talked about 4th Mercury, can we say Mercury in other houses

> > is better? I don't think so. We need a complete view of a chart. My

> > langesh budha in Leo does not give me the best perception and

> > intelegence I wish to have. Why? It is aspected by Saturn.

> >

> > P. Samal

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > I think there can be so many things which can modify "merc in 4th"

> > > results. I dont know much of the astrology, But In my case, For

> > Libra

> > > lagna, I have merc (9L-12L) placed in 4th along with exalted

> > > Mars(2L-7L). There is also parivartan of 4L Sani (in 9th)with 9L

> > > merc(in 4th). Also, In navamsha merc is again in 4th along with

> > > exalted moon (which happens to be my AK or in this case as its

> > > navamsha, 'Karakamsa'). With all this, I have been told, My coming

> > > merc mahadasa will be good. I should expect some leadership

> > > opportunities coming as merc is with exalted mars forming Ruchak

> > Yoga

> > > and gains in foreign land and happiniess.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > - Kaushik.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "sanjayprabhakaran"

> > > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:

> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > Dear Surya,

> > > > Good point you mentioned Jyataka Parijata on this, Vidyanatha

> > calls

> > > > it Viphala Or Fruitless position.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway, When you mentioned Mercury Dasa and Mercury in 4th. My

> > take

> > > > is that all that's mentioned by Sages do come right. But, A BIG

> > BUT

> > > > here, the point is When?! will it come true?. The timing is

> > > > essential. All that mentioned need not come true in the whole

> > dasa.

> > > > Mercury's results in 4th will come only in last part of the

> > dasa,If he

> > > > is benefic. And if malefic then in the first part of the dasa.

> > > >

> > > > But Viphala or fruitless to whom? is the next question you have

> to

> > > answer.

> > > >

> > > > Warm Regards

> > > > Sanjay P

> > > >

> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "SuryaViswanadham"

> > > > <vishwanatham@g...> wrote:

> > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Utpal & Partha,

> > > > >

> > > > > i am not much worried about logic, i've Mer in the 4th and

> the

> > dasa

> > > > > is running (lot of learning is taking place, but i am not

> happy

> > > > > because i want to get out and do my bit, which is not

> > happening).

> > > > > Also, Jataka Parijata gives that Mer is bad in the 4th (in

> COVA

> > > > > Sanjay also says that as per some experts 4th is a bad

> > placement for

> > > > > Mer (could be a hint).

> > > > >

> > > > > Partha can learn from the horse's mouth and enlighten us.

> i'll

> > > > > certainly be happy to learn that Mer is not bad in the 4th

> > house.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > Surya

> > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

> > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Partha,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You also have a v.good counter logic. but most of the

> > students

> > > > > > (children) will not like when they are asked to study at

> home

> > then

> > > > > > playing outside. i think that's Unhappy situation for Budha

> > but as

> > > > > > you said it may not be totally bad such as 'Maran Karka'

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > utpal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, Partha Sarathy

> > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Sir

> > > > > > > Mercury is a student, he is vidya karaka. I can

> understand

> > that

> > > > > > he rules

> > > > > > > play and playgrounds, but that is what kids do. But they

> > also

> > > > > like

> > > > > > to study

> > > > > > > to get good marks. This is not an acceptable logic to

> kill

> > > > > mercury

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > fourth.

> > > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > > partha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 5/25/05, SuryaViswanadham <vishwanatham@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Partha,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In his mp3 audio lessons, PVR did mention this as a

> > private

> > > > > > lesson from

> > > > > > > > Sanjay Ji . Mercury wants to get out and play, 4th type

> > of

> > > > > > sitting and

> > > > > > > > reading (learning ) is not liked by Mer.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This is how i understood it.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > Surya

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Partha Sarathy

> > > > > > <partvinu@g...>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag

> > > > > > > > > Can you point out the mail message number where he

> said

> > this?

> > > > > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > > > > partha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Group info: vedic-

> > > > > > astrology/info.html

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||

> > > > > > > > Links

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > V.Partha Sarathy,

> > > > > > > partvinu.blogspot.com <http://partvinu.blogspot.com>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If

> a

> > man

> > > > > > speaks or

> > > > > > > acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man

> > speaks or

> > > > > > acts with a

> > > > > > > pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that

> > never

> > > > > > leaves him.

> > > > > > > -----Buddha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Plot.no.71

> > > > > > > Road No.3

> > > > > > > Nagarjuna Hills

> > > > > > > Hyderabad

> > > > > > > India-500 082

May 26, 2005

SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

Dear Vijayadas,

Namaste. Buda comes under the domain of Kubera whose

sampath is akin to treasure. You know treasure is

always hidden and seekers of treasure are ruled by

matsarya a weakness blessed by Buda.

As regards marana karaka sthana you think of

Jarasandha and his death. Bhima tore him apart number

of times but everytime he did that the torn portions

attached easily and Jarasanda was back with full

vigour. It was Krsna who suggested Bhima to change the

positions of torn portions as wrong sides do not

attract/attach. Take the karakatwa of planets. Karaka

for 1st house is Sun while the karaka of 12th house is

Sani. When you place Sun and Sani in 12th house and

1st house respectively they face a situation similar

to that of Jarasandha - a marana karaka avastha is it

not!

There is great deal of knowledge involved in this

karaka parivartana.

Best wishes.

Astrologically & spiritually yours,

p.s.ramanarayanan.

--- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep

wrote:

Dear respected members

In local parlance there is a saying -''Maranja Budhan

Niranju

nalkum''.It means hidden budha will give in

full.Hidden houses may be

8,6.Also 12?

I feel mercury being a quick planet may get distracted

easily.

Hence himslef in a hidden position(i feel kendras are

the most exposed

areas with respect to our lagna or oursleves.Trikonas

may be the

additional or boosting areas.

When budha is less distracted ,he can oncentrate well

and give good

vidya.This is my personal understanding of the

quotation and seek

learned members opinion.

Regds

Pradeep

vedic astrology,

"SuryaViswanadham"

<vishwanatham@g...> wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Dear Samal,

>

> The discussion is about a definition. Is Mer said to

be in MKS in the

> 4th or in anyother house. The Q is something

simmilar to whether Jup

> is putrakaraka or some other planet?

>

> That is the case here. If you can quote anything

with references to

> classical texts, it will be useful for the

discussion.

>

> (You know how Mer was born to Chandra & Tara - you

know the story?)

>

> regards

> Surya

>

> vedic astrology, "psamal25"

> wrote:

> > Person with Mercury in 4th should be a mother's

pet. Afterall which

> > mother will not like a son inclined to earn

knowledge rather than

> > wondering around. However, do people study better

in home comfort

> or

> > they study better in a school/hostel/gurukul? The

distraction from

> > getting the best of knowledges makes such a person

unsatisfied.

> > I also read somewhere, 10th house and 4th house

are like king and

> > minister for the lagnesh. Even if we the king is

weak a strong and

> > inteligent minister will definitely help the

subject.

> >

> > Having talked about 4th Mercury, can we say

Mercury in other houses

> > is better? I don't think so. We need a complete

view of a chart. My

> > langesh budha in Leo does not give me the best

perception and

> > intelegence I wish to have. Why? It is aspected by

Saturn.

> >

> > P. Samal

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > I think there can be so many things which can

modify "merc in 4th"

> > > results. I dont know much of the astrology, But

In my case, For

> > Libra

> > > lagna, I have merc (9L-12L) placed in 4th along

with exalted

> > > Mars(2L-7L). There is also parivartan of 4L Sani

(in 9th)with 9L

> > > merc(in 4th). Also, In navamsha merc is again in

4th along with

> > > exalted moon (which happens to be my AK or in

this case as its

> > > navamsha, 'Karakamsa'). With all this, I have

been told, My coming

> > > merc mahadasa will be good. I should expect some

leadership

> > > opportunities coming as merc is with exalted

mars forming Ruchak

> > Yoga

> > > and gains in foreign land and happiniess.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > - Kaushik.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology,

"sanjayprabhakaran"

> > > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:

> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > Dear Surya,

> > > > Good point you mentioned Jyataka Parijata on

this, Vidyanatha

> > calls

> > > > it Viphala Or Fruitless position.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway, When you mentioned Mercury Dasa and

Mercury in 4th. My

> > take

> > > > is that all that's mentioned by Sages do come

right. But, A BIG

> > BUT

> > > > here, the point is When?! will it come true?.

The timing is

> > > > essential. All that mentioned need not come

true in the whole

> > dasa.

> > > > Mercury's results in 4th will come only in

last part of the

> > dasa,If he

> > > > is benefic. And if malefic then in the first

part of the dasa.

> > > >

> > > > But Viphala or fruitless to whom? is the next

question you have

> to

> > > answer.

> > > >

> > > > Warm Regards

> > > > Sanjay P

> > > >

> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology,

"SuryaViswanadham"

> > > > <vishwanatham@g...> wrote:

> > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Utpal & Partha,

> > > > >

> > > > > i am not much worried about logic, i've Mer

in the 4th and

> the

> > dasa

> > > > > is running (lot of learning is taking place,

but i am not

> happy

> > > > > because i want to get out and do my bit,

which is not

> > happening).

> > > > > Also, Jataka Parijata gives that Mer is bad

in the 4th (in

> COVA

> > > > > Sanjay also says that as per some experts

4th is a bad

> > placement for

> > > > > Mer (could be a hint).

> > > > >

> > > > > Partha can learn from the horse's mouth and

enlighten us.

> i'll

> > > > > certainly be happy to learn that Mer is not

bad in the 4th

> > house.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > Surya

> > > > > vedic astrology,

"utpal pathak"

> > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Partha,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You also have a v.good counter logic. but

most of the

> > students

> > > > > > (children) will not like when they are

asked to study at

> home

> > then

> > > > > > playing outside. i think that's Unhappy

situation for Budha

> > but as

> > > > > > you said it may not be totally bad such as

'Maran Karka'

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > utpal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology,

Partha Sarathy

> > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Sir

> > > > > > > Mercury is a student, he is vidya

karaka. I can

> understand

> > that

> > > > > > he rules

> > > > > > > play and playgrounds, but that is what

kids do. But they

> > also

> > > > > like

> > > > > > to study

> > > > > > > to get good marks. This is not an

acceptable logic to

> kill

> > > > > mercury

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > fourth.

> > > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > > partha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 5/25/05, SuryaViswanadham

<vishwanatham@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Partha,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In his mp3 audio lessons, PVR did

mention this as a

> > private

> > > > > > lesson from

> > > > > > > > Sanjay Ji . Mercury wants to get out

and play, 4th type

> > of

> > > > > > sitting and

> > > > > > > > reading (learning ) is not liked by

Mer.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This is how i understood it.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > Surya

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, Partha Sarathy

> > > > > > <partvinu@g...>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag

> > > > > > > > > Can you point out the mail message

number where he

> said

> > this?

> > > > > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > > > > partha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Archives:

vedic astrology

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Group info:

vedic-

> > > > > > astrology/info.html

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to

vedic astrology-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on

us .......

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri

Krishnaarpanamastu ||

> > > > > > > > Links

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > V.Partha Sarathy,

> > > > > > > partvinu.blogspot.com

<http://partvinu.blogspot.com>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > All that we are is the result of what we

have thought. If

> a

> > man

> > > > > > speaks or

> > > > > > > acts with an evil thought, pain follows

him. If a man

> > speaks or

> > > > > > acts with a

> > > > > > > pure thought, happiness follows him,

like a shadow that

> > never

> > > > > > leaves him.

> > > > > > > -----Buddha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Plot.no.71

> > > > > > > Road No.3

> > > > > > > Nagarjuna Hills

> > > > > > > Hyderabad

> > > > > > > India-500 082

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Dear all,

Mercury has always been a mystery for me. I have 8th Mercury. My

natal chart is summarized below:

Asc Cancer 17:21:08 Ashlesha

Sun Aquarius 24:24:34 P.Bhadra Direct

Mercury Aquarius 20:01:22 P.Bhadra Retro

Venus Aries 8:15:12 Ashwini Direct

Mars Leo 7:33:55 Magha Retro

Jupiter Leo 10:04:34 Magha Retro

Saturn Virgo 0:31:01 Uttara Retro

Moon Scorpio 6:04:57 Anuradha Direct

Rahu Leo 5:31:28 Magha Retro

Ketu Aquarius 5:31:28 Dhanishta Retro

Actually, two seperate pundits asked me to wear emerald which didnt

suited me. I had an accident and other issues after wearing it. Even

after studying astrology in some detail, I cant figure out why the

pundits asked me to wear emerald. The emerald could be flawed but

now I will try it again after finding the logic behind it.

I have read that 8th Mercury is very good and gives education (which

I have certaintly acquired over the years). Also can anyone comment

on retrograde 8th mercury and also the effect of two planets (sun,

KE) with Mercury and three planets seeing it from 2nd house (Jp, Ma,

Ra). Maybe the pundits reccomended it Me gemstone to me because of

Ashlesha ascendant nakshatra or due to Saturn-Me sthan parivartan of

dushtan houses ... the 8th Mercury is still a mystery for me. If

anyone has a clue then please help me solve it.

Regards

Gaurav

vedic astrology, rama narayanan

<sree88ganesha> wrote:

>

> SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

> AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

>

> Dear Vijayadas,

>

> Namaste. Buda comes under the domain of Kubera whose

> sampath is akin to treasure. You know treasure is

> always hidden and seekers of treasure are ruled by

> matsarya a weakness blessed by Buda.

>

> As regards marana karaka sthana you think of

> Jarasandha and his death. Bhima tore him apart number

> of times but everytime he did that the torn portions

> attached easily and Jarasanda was back with full

> vigour. It was Krsna who suggested Bhima to change the

> positions of torn portions as wrong sides do not

> attract/attach. Take the karakatwa of planets. Karaka

> for 1st house is Sun while the karaka of 12th house is

> Sani. When you place Sun and Sani in 12th house and

> 1st house respectively they face a situation similar

> to that of Jarasandha - a marana karaka avastha is it

> not!

>

> There is great deal of knowledge involved in this

> karaka parivartana.

>

> Best wishes.

>

> Astrologically & spiritually yours,

> p.s.ramanarayanan.

>

> --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep>

> wrote:

>

> Dear respected members

>

> In local parlance there is a saying -''Maranja Budhan

> Niranju

> nalkum''.It means hidden budha will give in

> full.Hidden houses may be

> 8,6.Also 12?

> I feel mercury being a quick planet may get distracted

> easily.

> Hence himslef in a hidden position(i feel kendras are

> the most exposed

> areas with respect to our lagna or oursleves.Trikonas

> may be the

> additional or boosting areas.

> When budha is less distracted ,he can oncentrate well

> and give good

> vidya.This is my personal understanding of the

> quotation and seek

> learned members opinion.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

>

> vedic astrology,

> "SuryaViswanadham"

> <vishwanatham@g...> wrote:

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Dear Samal,

> >

> > The discussion is about a definition. Is Mer said to

> be in MKS in the

> > 4th or in anyother house. The Q is something

> simmilar to whether Jup

> > is putrakaraka or some other planet?

> >

> > That is the case here. If you can quote anything

> with references to

> > classical texts, it will be useful for the

> discussion.

> >

> > (You know how Mer was born to Chandra & Tara - you

> know the story?)

> >

> > regards

> > Surya

> >

> > vedic astrology, "psamal25"

> <psamal25>

> > wrote:

> > > Person with Mercury in 4th should be a mother's

> pet. Afterall which

> > > mother will not like a son inclined to earn

> knowledge rather than

> > > wondering around. However, do people study better

> in home comfort

> > or

> > > they study better in a school/hostel/gurukul? The

> distraction from

> > > getting the best of knowledges makes such a person

> unsatisfied.

> > > I also read somewhere, 10th house and 4th house

> are like king and

> > > minister for the lagnesh. Even if we the king is

> weak a strong and

> > > inteligent minister will definitely help the

> subject.

> > >

> > > Having talked about 4th Mercury, can we say

> Mercury in other houses

> > > is better? I don't think so. We need a complete

> view of a chart. My

> > > langesh budha in Leo does not give me the best

> perception and

> > > intelegence I wish to have. Why? It is aspected by

> Saturn.

> > >

> > > P. Samal

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > I think there can be so many things which can

> modify "merc in 4th"

> > > > results. I dont know much of the astrology, But

> In my case, For

> > > Libra

> > > > lagna, I have merc (9L-12L) placed in 4th along

> with exalted

> > > > Mars(2L-7L). There is also parivartan of 4L Sani

> (in 9th)with 9L

> > > > merc(in 4th). Also, In navamsha merc is again in

> 4th along with

> > > > exalted moon (which happens to be my AK or in

> this case as its

> > > > navamsha, 'Karakamsa'). With all this, I have

> been told, My coming

> > > > merc mahadasa will be good. I should expect some

> leadership

> > > > opportunities coming as merc is with exalted

> mars forming Ruchak

> > > Yoga

> > > > and gains in foreign land and happiniess.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > - Kaushik.

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology,

> "sanjayprabhakaran"

> > > > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:

> > > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > > Dear Surya,

> > > > > Good point you mentioned Jyataka Parijata on

> this, Vidyanatha

> > > calls

> > > > > it Viphala Or Fruitless position.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyway, When you mentioned Mercury Dasa and

> Mercury in 4th. My

> > > take

> > > > > is that all that's mentioned by Sages do come

> right. But, A BIG

> > > BUT

> > > > > here, the point is When?! will it come true?.

> The timing is

> > > > > essential. All that mentioned need not come

> true in the whole

> > > dasa.

> > > > > Mercury's results in 4th will come only in

> last part of the

> > > dasa,If he

> > > > > is benefic. And if malefic then in the first

> part of the dasa.

> > > > >

> > > > > But Viphala or fruitless to whom? is the next

> question you have

> > to

> > > > answer.

> > > > >

> > > > > Warm Regards

> > > > > Sanjay P

> > > > >

> > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology,

> "SuryaViswanadham"

> > > > > <vishwanatham@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Utpal & Partha,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i am not much worried about logic, i've Mer

> in the 4th and

> > the

> > > dasa

> > > > > > is running (lot of learning is taking place,

> but i am not

> > happy

> > > > > > because i want to get out and do my bit,

> which is not

> > > happening).

> > > > > > Also, Jataka Parijata gives that Mer is bad

> in the 4th (in

> > COVA

> > > > > > Sanjay also says that as per some experts

> 4th is a bad

> > > placement for

> > > > > > Mer (could be a hint).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Partha can learn from the horse's mouth and

> enlighten us.

> > i'll

> > > > > > certainly be happy to learn that Mer is not

> bad in the 4th

> > > house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > Surya

> > > > > > vedic astrology,

> "utpal pathak"

> > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Partha,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You also have a v.good counter logic. but

> most of the

> > > students

> > > > > > > (children) will not like when they are

> asked to study at

> > home

> > > then

> > > > > > > playing outside. i think that's Unhappy

> situation for Budha

> > > but as

> > > > > > > you said it may not be totally bad such as

> 'Maran Karka'

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > utpal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology,

> Partha Sarathy

> > > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Sir

> > > > > > > > Mercury is a student, he is vidya

> karaka. I can

> > understand

> > > that

> > > > > > > he rules

> > > > > > > > play and playgrounds, but that is what

> kids do. But they

> > > also

> > > > > > like

> > > > > > > to study

> > > > > > > > to get good marks. This is not an

> acceptable logic to

> > kill

> > > > > > mercury

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > fourth.

> > > > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > > > partha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 5/25/05, SuryaViswanadham

> <vishwanatham@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Partha,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In his mp3 audio lessons, PVR did

> mention this as a

> > > private

> > > > > > > lesson from

> > > > > > > > > Sanjay Ji . Mercury wants to get out

> and play, 4th type

> > > of

> > > > > > > sitting and

> > > > > > > > > reading (learning ) is not liked by

> Mer.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This is how i understood it.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > Surya

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> vedic astrology, Partha Sarathy

> > > > > > > <partvinu@g...>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag

> > > > > > > > > > Can you point out the mail message

> number where he

> > said

> > > this?

> > > > > > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > > > > > partha

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Archives:

> vedic astrology

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Group info:

> vedic-

> > > > > > > astrology/info.html

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to

> vedic astrology-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on

> us .......

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri

> Krishnaarpanamastu ||

> > > > > > > > > Links

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > > V.Partha Sarathy,

> > > > > > > > partvinu.blogspot.com

> <http://partvinu.blogspot.com>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > All that we are is the result of what we

> have thought. If

> > a

> > > man

> > > > > > > speaks or

> > > > > > > > acts with an evil thought, pain follows

> him. If a man

> > > speaks or

> > > > > > > acts with a

> > > > > > > > pure thought, happiness follows him,

> like a shadow that

> > > never

> > > > > > > leaves him.

> > > > > > > > -----Buddha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Plot.no.71

> > > > > > > > Road No.3

> > > > > > > > Nagarjuna Hills

> > > > > > > > Hyderabad

> > > > > > > > India-500 082

>

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