12th lord in 12th to itself.. (Bala Gopal ji)

[Guest guest]

Dear Bala Gopal ji

 

Thanks for this information. I know it is important to interpret the

chart as a whole. At the same time each exchanges, yogas etc are

building blocks of a chart; so we need to check those individual

blocks as well.

 

I am now trying to understand how to interpret 8th lord in 10th. 10th

is 2nd from 8th so it should be interpretated as increase in the

standard of 8th on 10th.

Now how do we interpret this exchange on following conditions.

If 8th lord happens to be Ju?

If 8th lord happens to Sa?

If 8th lord happens to be Ra?

To bring little more interaction, let's take example where Ju conjoins

10th lord Sa or Ra.

 

P. Samal

 

 

vedic astrology, "eveningwish"

<eveningwish> wrote:

> HareRamaKrishna

>

> Dear P. Samal Ji and List Members,

>

> The 12th House has a nuber of meanings, and can be interpreted

> differently in subdivisionals.

>

> A House shows activity

> A sign shows nature

> A planet is a dynamic force

>

> ...so perhaps a planet who owns a house, being in its own sign gets

> comfortable in the environment (Nakshatras can also be checked).

>

> Planets in Gandanta, or Sandhi, for example may be different in

> producing results than planets that are not in this said combination.

>

> 12th Lord in 12th, with other planets could also perhaps change the

> situation.

>

> Now for 10th in 9th:

>

> For example, if we consider the 10th Lord in the 9th House and we

> notice the 9th Lord there as well, there is Dharma Karma Adhipati Yoga.

>

 

 

> Amongst other interpretations, it is the person feeds dharma (9th

> House) with Karma (10th House) together....

>

> The whole chart has to be studied.

>

> Thank you.

> Bala Gopal.

>

> vedic astrology, "psamal25" <psamal25>

wrote:

> > This is an intersting question. 10th lord in 9th should indicate loss

> > of profession. Also 9th house represents religiousness. So this

> > exchange means the person becomes a guru and takes the profession of a

> > teacher or something like that.

> >

> > Tarun ji; we often come across conflicting interpretations in chart

> > analyses. Students like me learn from experiences. If possible please

> > share the chart and the character of the person you have mentioned.

> > P.Samal

> > > Dear Tarun and members,

> > >

> > > Following logic of 12th house placement of any house lord as loss to

> > > itself, Wondering what will be the effect of 10th lord placed in

9th?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > - Kaushik.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Hello Partha ji and P Samal ji,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for ur comments..but Psamal ji has said that it leads to

> loss

> > > > of income..and i dont think so...that its leads to loss of

> > > > income..since it is house of loss..and its position in 12th to

> itself

> > > > may leads to loss of the planets effects in 12th house ...

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > > Tarun...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

> > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote:

> > > > > Dear

> > > > >

> > > > > 12th lord in 11th can make a person greedy, and accumulate

> > > > investments

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes

> > > > > partha

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "psamal25"

> <psamal25>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > As I remember the 12th lord in 11th will cause loss in income.

> > > > > > Unexpected loss is indicated. The person is extravagant

havits,

> > > > may

> > > > > > have many enemies. Not good for elder brothers/sisters.

> However,

> > > > the

> > > > > > effect of this exchange also depends on who is the lord and

> rasis

> > > > in

> > > > > > those houses.

> > > > > > P Samal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i have one question ...if lagna lord is in 12th house it is

> > > > > considred

> > > > > > > worst....since it is placed in house of loss to itself..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > if 7th lord is placed in 6th then it is considered worst

for

> > > > 7th

> > > > > house

> > > > > > > since it is placed in 12th from itself....

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the same way if 12th lord is in 11th house ...means 12th

from

> > > > his

> > > > > own

> > > > > > > lordship...do this means loss of house of loss...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > kindly suggest

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > tarun...

[Guest guest]

Dear P Samal,

Though this query was addressed to Bala Gopalji, I can

share my experiences of 8th lord in the 10th.

First of all, 10th is 3rd from the 8th (while counting include the

starting house). Now numbers like 3, 6, 8 & 12 are bad numbers when

we are looking for good things.

I have sun as my 8th lord, sitting in my 10th house in libra. In

addition it is debilitated. Therefore it is not good for the carrer.

It causes me to be lazy, come and go as I please, not follow natural

rank, vanish at every possible opportunity, etc.

However Sun is also a natural significator of work and 10th is a

good position for it to be. Therefore it does it job, and though it

shines weak, a weak sun i guess is bright enough, because I had a

great carrier so far.

 

Bottom line is that one cannot view a theorem like "8th lord in the

10th" in isolation.

Pdt Narsimhaji has stated this beautifully in his lectures.

Rather it is to be used as a piece to construct the full puzzle.

Other pieces include

1. Sign of the 10th house, functional nature of the 8th lord

2. Dignity of the 8th lord in the 10th house

3. rashi drishti's on the 10th house for permanent effects

4. graha drishti's and argalas on 10th house for temporary dasha

effects

 

Soumit

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "psamal25" <psamal25>

wrote:

> Dear Bala Gopal ji

>

> Thanks for this information. I know it is important to interpret

the

> chart as a whole. At the same time each exchanges, yogas etc are

> building blocks of a chart; so we need to check those individual

> blocks as well.

>

> I am now trying to understand how to interpret 8th lord in 10th.

10th

> is 2nd from 8th so it should be interpretated as increase in the

> standard of 8th on 10th.

> Now how do we interpret this exchange on following conditions.

> If 8th lord happens to be Ju?

> If 8th lord happens to Sa?

> If 8th lord happens to be Ra?

> To bring little more interaction, let's take example where Ju

conjoins

> 10th lord Sa or Ra.

>

> P. Samal

>

>

> vedic astrology, "eveningwish"

> <eveningwish> wrote:

> > HareRamaKrishna

> >

> > Dear P. Samal Ji and List Members,

> >

> > The 12th House has a nuber of meanings, and can be interpreted

> > differently in subdivisionals.

> >

> > A House shows activity

> > A sign shows nature

> > A planet is a dynamic force

> >

> > ...so perhaps a planet who owns a house, being in its own sign

gets

> > comfortable in the environment (Nakshatras can also be checked).

> >

> > Planets in Gandanta, or Sandhi, for example may be different in

> > producing results than planets that are not in this said

combination.

> >

> > 12th Lord in 12th, with other planets could also perhaps change

the

> > situation.

> >

> > Now for 10th in 9th:

> >

> > For example, if we consider the 10th Lord in the 9th House and we

> > notice the 9th Lord there as well, there is Dharma Karma

Adhipati Yoga.

> >

>

>

> > Amongst other interpretations, it is the person feeds dharma (9th

> > House) with Karma (10th House) together....

> >

> > The whole chart has to be studied.

> >

> > Thank you.

> > Bala Gopal.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "psamal25"

<psamal25>

> wrote:

> > > This is an intersting question. 10th lord in 9th should

indicate loss

> > > of profession. Also 9th house represents religiousness. So this

> > > exchange means the person becomes a guru and takes the

profession of a

> > > teacher or something like that.

> > >

> > > Tarun ji; we often come across conflicting interpretations in

chart

> > > analyses. Students like me learn from experiences. If possible

please

> > > share the chart and the character of the person you have

mentioned.

> > > P.Samal

> > > > Dear Tarun and members,

> > > >

> > > > Following logic of 12th house placement of any house lord as

loss to

> > > > itself, Wondering what will be the effect of 10th lord

placed in

> 9th?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > - Kaushik.

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "~ Tarun ~"

<tarun_vst>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Hello Partha ji and P Samal ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for ur comments..but Psamal ji has said that it

leads to

> > loss

> > > > > of income..and i dont think so...that its leads to loss of

> > > > > income..since it is house of loss..and its position in

12th to

> > itself

> > > > > may leads to loss of the planets effects in 12th house ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarun...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

> > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 12th lord in 11th can make a person greedy, and

accumulate

> > > > > investments

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > partha

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, "psamal25"

> > <psamal25>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > As I remember the 12th lord in 11th will cause loss in

income.

> > > > > > > Unexpected loss is indicated. The person is extravagant

> havits,

> > > > > may

> > > > > > > have many enemies. Not good for elder brothers/sisters.

> > However,

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > effect of this exchange also depends on who is the

lord and

> > rasis

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > those houses.

> > > > > > > P Samal

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i have one question ...if lagna lord is in 12th

house it is

> > > > > > considred

> > > > > > > > worst....since it is placed in house of loss to

itself..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > if 7th lord is placed in 6th then it is considered

worst

> for

> > > > > 7th

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > since it is placed in 12th from itself....

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the same way if 12th lord is in 11th house ...means

12th

> from

> > > > > his

> > > > > > own

> > > > > > > > lordship...do this means loss of house of loss...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > kindly suggest

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > tarun...