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hello members,

 

i have one question ...if lagna lord is in 12th house it is considred

worst....since it is placed in house of loss to itself..

 

if 7th lord is placed in 6th then it is considered worst for 7th house

since it is placed in 12th from itself....

 

the same way if 12th lord is in 11th house ...means 12th from his own

lordship...do this means loss of house of loss...

 

kindly suggest

 

 

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As I remember the 12th lord in 11th will cause loss in income.

Unexpected loss is indicated. The person is extravagant havits, may

have many enemies. Not good for elder brothers/sisters. However, the

effect of this exchange also depends on who is the lord and rasis in

those houses.

P Samal

>

> i have one question ...if lagna lord is in 12th house it is considred

> worst....since it is placed in house of loss to itself..

>

> if 7th lord is placed in 6th then it is considered worst for 7th house

> since it is placed in 12th from itself....

>

> the same way if 12th lord is in 11th house ...means 12th from his own

> lordship...do this means loss of house of loss...

>

> kindly suggest

>

>

> tarun...

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Dear

 

12th lord in 11th can make a person greedy, and accumulate investments

 

best wishes

partha

 

vedic astrology, "psamal25" <psamal25>

wrote:

> As I remember the 12th lord in 11th will cause loss in income.

> Unexpected loss is indicated. The person is extravagant havits, may

> have many enemies. Not good for elder brothers/sisters. However, the

> effect of this exchange also depends on who is the lord and rasis in

> those houses.

> P Samal

> >

> > i have one question ...if lagna lord is in 12th house it is

considred

> > worst....since it is placed in house of loss to itself..

> >

> > if 7th lord is placed in 6th then it is considered worst for 7th

house

> > since it is placed in 12th from itself....

> >

> > the same way if 12th lord is in 11th house ...means 12th from his

own

> > lordship...do this means loss of house of loss...

> >

> > kindly suggest

> >

> >

> > tarun...

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Hello Partha ji and P Samal ji,

 

Thanks for ur comments..but Psamal ji has said that it leads to loss

of income..and i dont think so...that its leads to loss of

income..since it is house of loss..and its position in 12th to itself

may leads to loss of the planets effects in 12th house ...

 

Thanks

 

Tarun...

 

 

vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

<partvinu@g...> wrote:

> Dear

>

> 12th lord in 11th can make a person greedy, and accumulate

investments

>

> best wishes

> partha

>

> vedic astrology, "psamal25" <psamal25>

> wrote:

> > As I remember the 12th lord in 11th will cause loss in income.

> > Unexpected loss is indicated. The person is extravagant havits,

may

> > have many enemies. Not good for elder brothers/sisters. However,

the

> > effect of this exchange also depends on who is the lord and rasis

in

> > those houses.

> > P Samal

> > >

> > > i have one question ...if lagna lord is in 12th house it is

> considred

> > > worst....since it is placed in house of loss to itself..

> > >

> > > if 7th lord is placed in 6th then it is considered worst for

7th

> house

> > > since it is placed in 12th from itself....

> > >

> > > the same way if 12th lord is in 11th house ...means 12th from

his

> own

> > > lordship...do this means loss of house of loss...

> > >

> > > kindly suggest

> > >

> > >

> > > tarun...

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Mr.Parthasarathy,

Parasarasamhitha sloka 19 says that any Bhava lord

placed in its 12th house ,during the dasa of that

Bhavathipathy the native would experience Dhana naasa

..

 

 

--- "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu wrote:

> Dear

>

> 12th lord in 11th can make a person greedy, and

> accumulate investments

>

> best wishes

> partha

>

> vedic astrology, "psamal25"

> <psamal25>

> wrote:

> > As I remember the 12th lord in 11th will cause

> loss in income.

> > Unexpected loss is indicated. The person is

> extravagant havits, may

> > have many enemies. Not good for elder

> brothers/sisters. However, the

> > effect of this exchange also depends on who is the

> lord and rasis in

> > those houses.

> > P Samal

> > >

> > > i have one question ...if lagna lord is in 12th

> house it is

> considred

> > > worst....since it is placed in house of loss to

> itself..

> > >

> > > if 7th lord is placed in 6th then it is

> considered worst for 7th

> house

> > > since it is placed in 12th from itself....

> > >

> > > the same way if 12th lord is in 11th house

> ...means 12th from his

> own

> > > lordship...do this means loss of house of

> loss...

> > >

> > > kindly suggest

> > >

> > >

> > > tarun...

>

>

>

 

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Dear Tarun and members,

 

Following logic of 12th house placement of any house lord as loss to

itself, Wondering what will be the effect of 10th lord placed in 9th?

 

Thanks,

- Kaushik.

 

vedic astrology, "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

wrote:

> Hello Partha ji and P Samal ji,

>

> Thanks for ur comments..but Psamal ji has said that it leads to loss

> of income..and i dont think so...that its leads to loss of

> income..since it is house of loss..and its position in 12th to itself

> may leads to loss of the planets effects in 12th house ...

>

> Thanks

>

> Tarun...

>

>

> vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

> <partvinu@g...> wrote:

> > Dear

> >

> > 12th lord in 11th can make a person greedy, and accumulate

> investments

> >

> > best wishes

> > partha

> >

> > vedic astrology, "psamal25" <psamal25>

> > wrote:

> > > As I remember the 12th lord in 11th will cause loss in income.

> > > Unexpected loss is indicated. The person is extravagant havits,

> may

> > > have many enemies. Not good for elder brothers/sisters. However,

> the

> > > effect of this exchange also depends on who is the lord and rasis

> in

> > > those houses.

> > > P Samal

> > > >

> > > > i have one question ...if lagna lord is in 12th house it is

> > considred

> > > > worst....since it is placed in house of loss to itself..

> > > >

> > > > if 7th lord is placed in 6th then it is considered worst for

> 7th

> > house

> > > > since it is placed in 12th from itself....

> > > >

> > > > the same way if 12th lord is in 11th house ...means 12th from

> his

> > own

> > > > lordship...do this means loss of house of loss...

> > > >

> > > > kindly suggest

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > tarun...

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Richaitsmekk2 <itsmekk2 > wrote:

Dear Tarun and members,Following logic of 12th house placement of any house lord

as loss toitself, Wondering what will be the effect of 10th lord placed in 9th?

Thanks,- Kaushik.vedic astrology, "~ Tarun ~"

<tarun_vst>wrote:> Hello Partha ji and P Samal ji,> > Thanks for ur

comments..but Psamal ji has said that it leads to loss > of income..and i dont

think so...that its leads to loss of > income..since it is house of loss..and

its position in 12th to itself > may leads to loss of the planets effects in

12th house ...> > Thanks> > Tarun...> > > --- In

vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > <partvinu@g...> wrote:> >

Dear> > > > 12th lord in 11th can make a person

greedy, and accumulate > investments> > > > best wishes> > partha> > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "psamal25" <psamal25> > > wrote:> > > As

I remember the 12th lord in 11th will cause loss in income.> > > Unexpected

loss is indicated. The person is extravagant havits, > may> > > have many

enemies. Not good for elder brothers/sisters. However, > the> > > effect of

this exchange also depends on who is the lord and rasis > in> > > those houses.

> > > P Samal> > > > > > > > i have one question ...if lagna lord is in 12th

house it is > > considred > > > > worst....since it is placed in house of loss

to itself..> > > > > > > > if 7th lord is placed in 6th then it is considered

worst for > 7th > >

house > > > > since it is placed in 12th from itself....> > > > > > > > the same

way if 12th lord is in 11th house ...means 12th from > his > > own > > > >

lordship...do this means loss of house of loss...> > > > > > > > kindly suggest

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This is an intersting question. 10th lord in 9th should indicate loss

of profession. Also 9th house represents religiousness. So this

exchange means the person becomes a guru and takes the profession of a

teacher or something like that.

 

Tarun ji; we often come across conflicting interpretations in chart

analyses. Students like me learn from experiences. If possible please

share the chart and the character of the person you have mentioned.

P.Samal

> Dear Tarun and members,

>

> Following logic of 12th house placement of any house lord as loss to

> itself, Wondering what will be the effect of 10th lord placed in 9th?

>

> Thanks,

> - Kaushik.

>

> vedic astrology, "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> wrote:

> > Hello Partha ji and P Samal ji,

> >

> > Thanks for ur comments..but Psamal ji has said that it leads to loss

> > of income..and i dont think so...that its leads to loss of

> > income..since it is house of loss..and its position in 12th to itself

> > may leads to loss of the planets effects in 12th house ...

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Tarun...

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

> > <partvinu@g...> wrote:

> > > Dear

> > >

> > > 12th lord in 11th can make a person greedy, and accumulate

> > investments

> > >

> > > best wishes

> > > partha

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "psamal25" <psamal25>

> > > wrote:

> > > > As I remember the 12th lord in 11th will cause loss in income.

> > > > Unexpected loss is indicated. The person is extravagant havits,

> > may

> > > > have many enemies. Not good for elder brothers/sisters. However,

> > the

> > > > effect of this exchange also depends on who is the lord and rasis

> > in

> > > > those houses.

> > > > P Samal

> > > > >

> > > > > i have one question ...if lagna lord is in 12th house it is

> > > considred

> > > > > worst....since it is placed in house of loss to itself..

> > > > >

> > > > > if 7th lord is placed in 6th then it is considered worst for

> > 7th

> > > house

> > > > > since it is placed in 12th from itself....

> > > > >

> > > > > the same way if 12th lord is in 11th house ...means 12th from

> > his

> > > own

> > > > > lordship...do this means loss of house of loss...

> > > > >

> > > > > kindly suggest

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > tarun...

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Hello respected members

 

this is a question of the sayings provided in the books that...some

book says else..and other says something else..

 

but im trying to interpretate it in our understandings ..

 

this is a quite good answer that if 10th lord in 9th will make person

to lose his Karm Sthana and join the Dharm..

 

and the same way we can say abt 12th lord in 11th house will say that

during the dasha or bhukti of the particular planet he will have only

profits if he is a businessman..because 11th is business house..he

will lose the 12th houses and its related things ...and will only do

business...11th is also related to elder brother..so this can be said

that he himself will do business along with brother and not by self.

 

and please dont misguide the topic by saying 8th lord in 10th house

or some other qustionaries..

the true copy can be calculated only by viewing the horo itself

but ..i m asking this question just for the proof of the sacred

books..

 

thanks ..

 

tarun.

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "psamal25" <psamal25>

wrote:

> Dear Bala Gopal ji

>

> Thanks for this information. I know it is important to interpret the

> chart as a whole. At the same time each exchanges, yogas etc are

> building blocks of a chart; so we need to check those individual

> blocks as well.

>

> I am now trying to understand how to interpret 8th lord in 10th.

10th

> is 2nd from 8th so it should be interpretated as increase in the

> standard of 8th on 10th.

> Now how do we interpret this exchange on following conditions.

> If 8th lord happens to be Ju?

> If 8th lord happens to Sa?

> If 8th lord happens to be Ra?

> To bring little more interaction, let's take example where Ju

conjoins

> 10th lord Sa or Ra.

>

> P. Samal

>

>

> vedic astrology, "eveningwish"

> <eveningwish> wrote:

> > HareRamaKrishna

> >

> > Dear P. Samal Ji and List Members,

> >

> > The 12th House has a nuber of meanings, and can be interpreted

> > differently in subdivisionals.

> >

> > A House shows activity

> > A sign shows nature

> > A planet is a dynamic force

> >

> > ...so perhaps a planet who owns a house, being in its own sign

gets

> > comfortable in the environment (Nakshatras can also be checked).

> >

> > Planets in Gandanta, or Sandhi, for example may be different in

> > producing results than planets that are not in this said

combination.

> >

> > 12th Lord in 12th, with other planets could also perhaps change

the

> > situation.

> >

> > Now for 10th in 9th:

> >

> > For example, if we consider the 10th Lord in the 9th House and we

> > notice the 9th Lord there as well, there is Dharma Karma Adhipati

Yoga.

> >

>

>

> > Amongst other interpretations, it is the person feeds dharma (9th

> > House) with Karma (10th House) together....

> >

> > The whole chart has to be studied.

> >

> > Thank you.

> > Bala Gopal.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "psamal25" <psamal25>

> wrote:

> > > This is an intersting question. 10th lord in 9th should

indicate loss

> > > of profession. Also 9th house represents religiousness. So this

> > > exchange means the person becomes a guru and takes the

profession of a

> > > teacher or something like that.

> > >

> > > Tarun ji; we often come across conflicting interpretations in

chart

> > > analyses. Students like me learn from experiences. If possible

please

> > > share the chart and the character of the person you have

mentioned.

> > > P.Samal

> > > > Dear Tarun and members,

> > > >

> > > > Following logic of 12th house placement of any house lord as

loss to

> > > > itself, Wondering what will be the effect of 10th lord placed

in

> 9th?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > - Kaushik.

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "~ Tarun ~"

<tarun_vst>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Hello Partha ji and P Samal ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for ur comments..but Psamal ji has said that it

leads to

> > loss

> > > > > of income..and i dont think so...that its leads to loss of

> > > > > income..since it is house of loss..and its position in 12th

to

> > itself

> > > > > may leads to loss of the planets effects in 12th house ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarun...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

> > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 12th lord in 11th can make a person greedy, and

accumulate

> > > > > investments

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > partha

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, "psamal25"

> > <psamal25>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > As I remember the 12th lord in 11th will cause loss in

income.

> > > > > > > Unexpected loss is indicated. The person is extravagant

> havits,

> > > > > may

> > > > > > > have many enemies. Not good for elder brothers/sisters.

> > However,

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > effect of this exchange also depends on who is the lord

and

> > rasis

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > those houses.

> > > > > > > P Samal

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i have one question ...if lagna lord is in 12th house

it is

> > > > > > considred

> > > > > > > > worst....since it is placed in house of loss to

itself..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > if 7th lord is placed in 6th then it is considered

worst

> for

> > > > > 7th

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > since it is placed in 12th from itself....

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the same way if 12th lord is in 11th house ...means

12th

> from

> > > > > his

> > > > > > own

> > > > > > > > lordship...do this means loss of house of loss...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > kindly suggest

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > tarun...

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12th lord in 12th is called as Vimala yoga. You can get the description in many books and sites

best wishes

partha

 

On 5/23/05, Murthy S <sriram18981 (AT) sify (DOT) com> wrote:

Hi all,

what could be the effect of 12th lord in the same rashiitself. for example,

for a person having lagna as vrishchika andsukra(12th lord) is in tula. ( ravi,

budh, guru, pluto and sani are inkanya ). Is there any link between being sukra

in vyaya and the person

is inclined towards sanyas.

 

Quoting psamal25 (AT) (DOT) co.in:

 

>

 

 

 

 

As I remember the 12th lord in 11th will causeloss in income.

Unexpected loss is indicated. The person isextravagant havits, may

have many enemies. Not good for elderbrothers/sisters. However, the

effect of this exchange also dependson who is the lord and rasis in

those houses.

PSamal

>

> i have one question ...if lagna lord is in12th house it is considred

> worst....since it is placed inhouse of loss to itself..

>

> if 7th lord is placed in6th then it is considered worst for 7th house

> since it isplaced in 12th from itself....

>

> the same way if 12thlord is in 11th house ...means 12th from his own

>lordship...do this means loss of house of loss...

>

>kindly suggest

>

>

>tarun...

 

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what could be the effect of 12th lord in the same rashiitself. for example,

for a person having lagna as vrishchika andsukra(12th lord) is in tula. ( ravi,

budh, guru, pluto and sani are inkanya ). Is there any link between being sukra

in vyaya and the personis inclined towards sanyas.

 

Quoting psamal25 (AT) (DOT) co.in:

 

>

 

 

As I remember the 12th lord in 11th will causeloss in income.

Unexpected loss is indicated. The person isextravagant havits, may

have many enemies. Not good for elderbrothers/sisters. However, the

effect of this exchange also dependson who is the lord and rasis in

those houses.

PSamal

>

> i have one question ...if lagna lord is in12th house it is considred

> worst....since it is placed inhouse of loss to itself..

>

> if 7th lord is placed in6th then it is considered worst for 7th house

> since it isplaced in 12th from itself....

>

> the same way if 12thlord is in 11th house ...means 12th from his own

>lordship...do this means loss of house of loss...

>

>kindly suggest

>

>

>tarun...

 

 

 

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Plase explain what is vimala yoga and specify somelinks so that i can get some

details of vimala yoga.

what could bethe effect if 6th and 9th lords exchange their positions.(lagna

isvrischika). what happens to the bhagya of the native. because 9th lordis in

6th position, and the 6th lord is in 9th place, can we consider asboth the

bhagys sthana and the bhagya adhipati both arespoiled??

 

with regards.

Murthy.

 

Quoting partvinu :

 

>Dear Murthy

12th lord in 12th is called as Vimala yoga. You can getthe description in

many books and sites

best wishes

partha

 

 

On5/23/05, Murthy S wrote:

>

> Hi all,

> what could be the effect of 12th lord in the same rashi

> itself.forexample, for a person having lagna as vrishchika and

> sukra(12thlord) is in tula. ( ravi, budh, guru, pluto and sani are in

> kanya).Is there any link between being sukra in vyaya and the person

> isinclined towards sanyas.

>

> Quoting psamal25 (AT) (DOT) co.in:

>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

> As I remember the 12th lord in 11th willcause

> loss in income.

>

> Unexpected loss is indicated. Thepersonis

> extravagant havits, may

>

> have many enemies. Not good forelder

> brothers/sisters. However, the

>

> effect of thisexchangealso depends

> on who is the lord and rasis in

>

> those houses.

>

> P

> Samal

>

> >

>

> > i have one question ...if lagnalordis in

> 12th house it is considred

>

> > worst....since it isplaced in

> house of loss to itself..

>

> >

>

> > if 7th lordisplaced in

> 6th then it is considered worst for 7th house

>

> >since it is

> placed in 12th from itself....

>

> >

>

> > thesame way if 12th

> lord is in 11th house ...means 12th from his own

>

> >

> lordship...do this means loss of house of loss...

>

> >

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> >

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Murthy,

 

One of my versity friend has this planetary move. That

is, Scorpio lagna, Venus is in 12th-Libra and the

Venus dasha is running.

 

Here's my non-bookish observation.

 

Well, he is very intelligent and sincere. Aloof in

home but gracious among friends even a clown but likes

to move in select society. Often prefer to stay in

either home or campus! Fond of poetry and philosophy

and unable of save anything (even friends donot return

his books and CDs).

 

Regards,

M.Imran

 

 

October 15, 1979

Time: 9:52:00 am

Time Zone: 5:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 71 E 16' 00", 29 N 09' 00"

Bahawalpur East, Pakistan

 

Rasi

+--------------+

| \ / \ Ve / |

| \ / \ Me / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|Gk \ / \ / |

|HL Md x As x Su |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 8 / Sa \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Ke x Ju |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ Ra / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|AL x x Ma Mo |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / GL \ |

| / \ / \ |

+--------------+

 

 

 

--- Murthy S <sriram18981 wrote:

 

> Hi all,

> what could be the effect of 12th lord in the

> same rashi itself. for example, for a person having

> lagna as vrishchika and sukra(12th lord) is in

> tula. ( ravi, budh, guru, pluto and sani are in

> kanya ). Is there any link between being sukra in

> vyaya and the person is inclined towards sanyas.

>

> Quoting psamal25:

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> As I remember the 12th lord in 11th will

> cause<br>loss in income.<BR>

> Unexpected loss is indicated. The person

> is<br>extravagant havits, may<BR>

> have many enemies. Not good for

> elder<br>brothers/sisters. However, the<BR>

> effect of this exchange also depends<br>on who is

> the lord and rasis in<BR>

> those houses. <BR>

> P<br>Samal<BR>

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> > i have one question ...if lagna lord is in<br>12th

> house it is considred <BR>

> > worst....since it is placed in<br>house of loss to

> itself..<BR>

> > <BR>

> > if 7th lord is placed in<br>6th then it is

> considered worst for 7th house <BR>

> > since it is<br>placed in 12th from itself....<BR>

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> > the same way if 12th<br>lord is in 11th house

> ...means 12th from his own <BR>

> ><br>lordship...do this means loss of house of

> loss...<BR>

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Plase explain what is vimala yoga and specify somelinks sothat i can get some

details of vimala yoga.

what could be the effectif 6th and 9th lords exchange their positions.(lagna

is Scorpio).whathappens to the bhagya of the native.

because 9th lord is in 6thposition, and the 6th lord is in 9th place, can we

consider as both thebhagys sthana and the bhagya adhipati both are spoiled??

 

withregards.

Murthy.

 

 

On5/23/05, Murthy S wrote:

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> Hi all,

> what could be the effect of 12th lord in the same rashi

> itself.forexample, for a person having lagna as vrishchika and

>sukra(12thlord) is in tula. ( ravi, budh, guru, pluto and sani are in

>kanya).Is there any link between being sukra in vyaya and the person

>isinclined towards sanyas.

>

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