Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Dear Utpal, Thanks for considering my suggestion to go through the WIFE's chart. I apologize for the pains I have given with 2 charts and 4 options. However pls wait for the correct answer to be posted on 24th. Thanks for all the pains! I really appreciate your time and effort! Jeyaram -- vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > Discover > Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out! > Dear Jayaram, > today my mind was not calm in the late morning. I was doing many things at same time and heistily looked at wife's chart. even after correcting my self, i had feeling that i may have gone wrong again. I checked the chart again and found that i have repeated the mistake in Dasha period.This is turning out to be comedy of errors. I was reluctant to see wife's chart and when tried to see today in hurry, i made mistakes. > Though now i am at peace and looked at the chart & my analysis again. > the lady was running ven/jU/ven on 26.1 & Ven/Ju/Moon on 9th may. both the dates are capable to bestow merraige. > Moon is also becuse it is placed with UL +A7 lord Mars in D1 & UL +A7 lord mercury in D9. > the other analysis of Transit & TP Remains. > One more point i looked for this time is 'Vivah Sahams' to have a one more clue. It is in Mesha and lord is again Mars. > if you see now Transit on 9th May, 7th lord Sun is in Mesha (Where Vivah saham is placed) & Mars (Lord of Vivah Saham) is in 7th house. hence 7th lord & Vivah Saham lord has exchanged the places. their placement is also conducive as both are transiting thro' Kaam Trikona. > where as on 26th of Jan, both are placed in 8th & 12 th house in transit. > This confirms that though 26.1 jan is a very potent marriage giving period in terms of Pratyantar period, 9th may seems to be the most fitting one. > lastly i'll say that by giving 2 charts & 4 dates you have made people to do lot of exercise. > best regards, > yours > utpal pathak > > > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote: > Dear Jayarama, > I am sorry. I have seen wrong dasha for Wife. I gave my analysis with some other dasha instead of Vim. i realised it just now. > I apologise for my lapses in earlier mail. > 0n 26.1 she was having VEN/JU/VEN & on 9th May VEN/JU/SUN both are. > Venus can give marriage as karka. guru also Patikarka for females is capable. > Pratyantar lords Ven & sun are also both capable. sun is 7th lord palced with lagnesh in 5th. > The other analysis are as per previous mails. which is again given below. > > > Test this with Transit > > > > 26.1.97 & 9.5.97 --> on 26.1 Venus along with merc in 2nd from UL but Mars (UL Lord) is in 8th with Rahu & sun (7th lord) is in 12th. > > > > on 9.5 Venus is transits his own natal place & 7th from UL, Mars as UL lord transits 7th house & 7th lord Sun is in 3rd which can be consider little better than 12th as in case of 26.1 transit. > > > > The common transit of Saturn & Guru is good becuse they combinedly influence 4th house & Karka Venus. > > > > So with the above transit analysis, 9.5 seems to be little better > > > > Let me use Final tool i.e TP :- both the dates will fall in the domain of 1996 TP Chart of her. > > > > TP Chart of 1996 is on 20.6.1996, at 17.43.49 ---> I think I hope that i am not affected with Jundice --- Hora lord is Mercury placed in 7th with 7th lord Venus & lagna lord Mars - what more is required to convince me that marriage must have happenned in 1997 - over & abvove, ju is lord of 2nd & UL and placed in UL . in D9 - Venus (Karka) is in 7th house & Hora lord merc is well placed in 5th. Venus in d9 is also aspected by Lagna cum 2nd lord Shani & 4th lord Mars. > > > > i am tired of seeing marriage everywhere here in TP. what about our final choice between 26Jan & 9May. let's check final tool called 'Tithi Ashtottari Dasha' > > > > 26.1 falls in Moon & 9.5 falls in Merc period > > > > both are capable but I tend to give Merc more marks here becuse-- > > > > --- my earlier derivation about husband was 9th may and if i say wife would have married on 26th jan then i would be Inventor of all together new 'marriage Parakara' i.e can be named as ' Na bhooto Na Bhavishyati Marriage' > > --- Merc is a hora lord and placed in 7th with 7th & lagna lord definately was more potent then moon to give marriage. > > > > The Husband & Wife must have got married on 9.5.1997 > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Utpal > > though both dates are equally powerfull, i tend to think honestly that 9th may has more chances. > > regards, > utpal > > > Jeyaram <jeyaram009> wrote: > Dear Utpal, > > Many thanks in taking part in the puzzle and sharing your excellent > analysis. Although I feel to write comments on your analysis, for > the benefit of others attempting the puzzle I will reserve the same > till 24th. > > What don't you try and analyze the wife's chart as well ? It should > also point to the same result right ? > > Thanks & Respetful Regards > Jeyaram > > ______________ > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > Dear Jayaram, > > > > I am trying to answer your puzzle taking only Husband's chart in > to consideration for avoiding any confusion for my self (Wife Lagna > is in Boarder) > > > > I am mainly using 2 charts D1 & D9, Vimshottari (Dwi-sapt- for > curiosity as well as testing), Transit & Tithi Pravesha. > > > > I may not be able to provide analysis for all the dates here but > will try to give in brief. > > > > Dates: - 26.1.1997 - Rahu / Sat / Venus 17.8.1998 - Rahu / > Mer / Mer > > 09.5.1997- Rahu / Sat / Moon 22.8.1999 - > Rahu / Mer / Moon > > > > Now to broadly judge which Antardasha can give marriage, i have > done following analysis - > > > > Saturn :- D1 - 4th & A7 lord placed in 5th with Rahu (Mahadasha > nath), aspects 7th house. it also aspects UL cum 2nd house with > Graha & rashi drashti. Saturn is also 7th lord from Moon lagna. > > > > D9- He is a yogakarka (4th & 5th lord) placed in 2nd house & more > importantly exchanged house with 7th cum 2nd lord Mars. > > > > Mecury: - D1 - Malefic for Scorpio as a 8th & 11th lord palced in > 3rd > > D9 - Well placed in 9th in house and also placed in > 7th from UL aspecting it with Rashi & Graha Drashti. > > > > The above factor indicates to me that Though both palnets are > capable of giving marriage in their own Antara, Saturn is more > potent to give result in comparison to Budha. > > > > The native was running his 30th year in 1997, hence Saturn has > already played his part in delaying the marriage here. now saturn i > his Pratyantar should bestow good results and also it aspects 7th & > well placed w.r.t to Mahadasha nath. > > > > > > Test with Transit : - Transit again clarifies what i have > concluded above. Transit of Saturn & Guru during 1997 was from 5th > & 3rd respectively (from d1). The main point here which immediately > stuck my mind is that 7th house is activated by combined aspect of > Saturn, Guru & Rahu in transit hence they should bring about the > marriage in 1997. another point here is that though Ju is debiliated > but exchanges house with Saturn during Transit and can give good > transit results (pl. don't ask me source here. this is my > understanding) > > > > Where as in 1998, The 7th house actiavtion is missing in transit. > though Ju aspects 7th lord from 5th. > > > > Now the more Tricky question of identifying 26.1.1997 & > 9.5.1997. > > > > 26.1.1997 suggest quickly and in a straight forward way the > marriage because it comes under period of Rahu / Saturn / Venus. > Saturn aspects 7th house & Venus is the lord of 7th placed in lagna > & aspects 7th house. only problem is that it is placed in 6th house > in D9. > > > > The other Prantyatar lord Moon (date 9.5.1997) is though badhaka > is well placed in 10th with UL Jupiter creating Gajakesari yoga. > Moon is very strongly palced in D9 because it has exchanged house > with Ju which is a UL & A7 lord in D9. > > > > > > Hence looking at Vimsh. dasha both Pratyantara are capable of > giving marriage. > > > > checked with Transit - On 9th may, Venus is transiting 7th house > which is own house & lagna lord mars from 10th house over natal moon. > > > > on 26th jan - Venus is transiting 2nd house from UL > > > > Transit is also not give me clear judgement. Though i feel 9th may > has better transit here becuse in D9 Mars & Sun (7th & 11 th lords) > are in exchane during transit on that day. > > > > Final try with TP Chart:- I am not discussing TP related to > 26.1.1997 here. members can check for themselves. > > > > TP of 1997 falls on 28.1.1997, at 16.36.23 with Hora lord Venus > placed in 7th with lagna lord Budha. in D9 Venus as 7th lord palced > in UL in 9th house ----------check the Tithi Ashtottari - the date > 9.5.1997 falls in Ven / Mer period & both are palced in 7th in TP > Chart. > > > > Intrestingly enough, the Period in dwi-saptati is Rahu/Moon/Sat > > > > I am quite clear now. > > > > My judgment is that the marriage was performed on 9.05.1997 > > > > I am tired, bye for now > > > > regards, > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > Jeyaram <jeyaram009> wrote:Respected List Members, > > > > Following is the accurate data of a married couple: > > HUSBAND: > > DOB: 20.01.1968 > > TOB: 02:55 HRS (between night of 19th and morning of 20th) > > POB: Bangalore (Karnataka State, India) > > > > WIFE: > > DOB: 23.06.1974 > > TOB: 22:15 HRS > > POB: Mysore (Karnataka State, India) > > > > Please assume that the birth time rectification is not required. > > > > Could you please tell which of the following was their marriage > > date ? > > option A) January 26, 1997 > > option B) August 22, 1999 > > option C) May 9, 1997 > > option D) August 17, 1998 > > > > Your analysis would be a great learning experience for lots of list > > members, including me. > > > > Request you to use as many versatile tools as possible like > > Vimshottari Dasa, Rasi Narayana Dasa, Navamsa Narayana Dasa, Tithi > > Pravesh Chakra, Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Varga Transit, Astakavarga, > > Double Transit Principle, Sarvotobhadra Chakra, Sudharshan Chakra, > > Prasna etc. > > > > The answer to this puzzle will be posted on May 24, 2005. > > > > Thanks & Respectful Regards > > Jeyaram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > Gajapati/ > > > > > > Gajapati > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Discover > > Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. 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