#2: Marriage Puzzle! - Wife's Analysis - to Jayaram

May 20, 2005

I am sorry. I have seen wrong dasha for Wife. I gave my analysis with some other

dasha instead of Vim. i realised it just now.

I apologise for my lapses in earlier mail.

0n 26.1 she was having VEN/JU/VEN & on 9th May VEN/JU/SUN both are.Venus can

give marriage as karka. guru also Patikarka for females is capable.Pratyantar

lords Ven & sun are also both capable. sun is 7th lord palced with lagnesh in

5th.

The other analysis are as per previous mails. which is again given below.

> Test this with Transit> > 26.1.97 & 9.5.97 --> on 26.1 Venus along with merc

in 2nd from UL but Mars (UL Lord) is in 8th with Rahu & sun (7th lord) is in

12th.> > on 9.5 Venus is transits his own natal place & 7th from UL, Mars as

UL lord transits 7th house & 7th lord Sun is in 3rd which can be consider

little better than 12th as in case of 26.1 transit.> > The common transit of

Saturn & Guru is good becuse they combinedly influence 4th house & Karka

Venus.> > So with the above transit analysis, 9.5 seems to be little better>

> Let me use Final tool i.e TP :- both the dates will fall in the domain of

1996 TP Chart of her.> > TP Chart of 1996 is on 20.6.1996, at 17.43.49 ---> I

think I hope that i am not affected with Jundice --- Hora lord is Mercury

placed in 7th with 7th lord Venus & lagna lord

Mars - what more is required to convince me that marriage must have happenned in

1997 - over & abvove, ju is lord of 2nd & UL and placed in UL . in D9 -Venus

(Karka) is in 7th house & Hora lord merc is well placed in 5th. Venus in d9 is

also aspected by Lagna cum 2nd lord Shani & 4th lord Mars.> > i am tired of

seeing marriage everywhere here in TP. what about our final choice between

26Jan & 9May. let's check final tool called 'Tithi Ashtottari Dasha'> > 26.1

falls in Moon & 9.5 falls in Merc period> > both are capable but I tend to

give Merc more marks here becuse--> > --- my earlier derivation about husband

was 9th may and if i say wife would have married on 26th jan then i would be

Inventor of all together new 'marriage Parakara' i.e can be named as ' Na

bhooto Na Bhavishyati Marriage' > --- Merc is a hora lord and placed in 7th

with 7th & lagna lord definately was

more potent then moon to give marriage.> > The Husband & Wife must have got

married on 9.5.1997> > Best Regards,> > Utpal

though both dates are equally powerfull, i tend to think honestly that 9th may has more chances.

regards,

utpalJeyaram <jeyaram009 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Dear Utpal,Many thanks in taking part in the puzzle and sharing your excellent

analysis. Although I feel to write comments on your analysis, for the benefit

of others attempting the puzzle I will reserve the same till 24th. What don't

you try and analyze the wife's chart as well ? It should also point to the same

result right ?Thanks & Respetful

RegardsJeyaram______________---

In vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:>

Dear Jayaram,> > I am trying to answer your puzzle taking only Husband's chart

in to consideration for avoiding any confusion for my self (Wife Lagna is in

Boarder)> > I am mainly using 2 charts D1 & D9, Vimshottari (Dwi-sapt- for

curiosity as

well as testing), Transit & Tithi Pravesha.> > I may not be able to provide

analysis for all the dates here but will try to give in brief.> > Dates: -

26.1.1997 - Rahu / Sat / Venus 17.8.1998 - Rahu / Mer / Mer>

09.5.1997- Rahu / Sat / Moon 22.8.1999 - Rahu / Mer / Moon> > Now to

broadly judge which Antardasha can give marriage, i have done following

analysis -> > Saturn :- D1 - 4th & A7 lord placed in 5th with Rahu (Mahadasha

nath), aspects 7th house. it also aspects UL cum 2nd house with Graha & rashi

drashti. Saturn is also 7th lord from Moon lagna.> > D9- He is a yogakarka

(4th & 5th lord) placed in 2nd house & more importantly exchanged house with

7th cum

2nd lord Mars.> > Mecury: - D1 - Malefic for Scorpio as a 8th & 11th lord

palced in 3rd> D9 - Well placed in 9th in house and also placed

in 7th from UL aspecting it with Rashi & Graha Drashti.> > The above factor

indicates to me that Though both palnets are capable of giving marriage in

their own Antara, Saturn is more potent to give result in comparison to Budha.>

> The native was running his 30th year in 1997, hence Saturn has already played

his part in delaying the marriage here. now saturn i his Pratyantar should

bestow good results and also it aspects 7th & well placed w.r.t to Mahadasha

nath.> > > Test with Transit : - Transit again clarifies what i have

concluded above. Transit of Saturn & Guru during 1997 was from 5th

& 3rd respectively (from d1). The main point here which immediately stuck my

mind is that 7th house is activated by combined aspect of Saturn, Guru & Rahu

in transit hence they should bring about the marriage in 1997. another point

here is that though Ju is debiliated but exchanges house with Saturn during

Transit and can give good transit results (pl. don't ask me source here. this

is my understanding) > > Where as in 1998, The 7th house actiavtion is

missing in transit. though Ju aspects 7th lord from 5th.> > Now the more

Tricky question of identifying 26.1.1997 & 9.5.1997. > > 26.1.1997 suggest

quickly and in a straight forward way the marriage because it comes under

period of Rahu / Saturn / Venus. Saturn aspects 7th house & Venus is the lord

of 7th placed in lagna & aspects 7th house. only problem is that it is placed

in 6th

house in D9.> > The other Prantyatar lord Moon (date 9.5.1997) is though

badhaka is well placed in 10th with UL Jupiter creating Gajakesari yoga. Moon

is very strongly palced in D9 because it has exchanged house with Ju which is a

UL & A7 lord in D9. > > > Hence looking at Vimsh. dasha both Pratyantara are

capable of giving marriage.> > checked with Transit - On 9th may, Venus is

transiting 7th house which is own house & lagna lord mars from 10th house over

natal moon.> > on 26th jan - Venus is transiting 2nd house from UL> > Transit

is also not give me clear judgement. Though i feel 9th may has better transit

here becuse in D9 Mars & Sun (7th & 11 th lords) are in exchane during transit

on that day.> > Final try with TP Chart:- I am not discussing TP related to

26.1.1997 here. members can check for

themselves.> > TP of 1997 falls on 28.1.1997, at 16.36.23 with Hora lord Venus

placed in 7th with lagna lord Budha. in D9 Venus as 7th lord palced in UL in

9th house ----------check the Tithi Ashtottari - the date 9.5.1997 falls in Ven

/ Mer period & both are palced in 7th in TP Chart.> > Intrestingly enough, the

Period in dwi-saptati is Rahu/Moon/Sat> > I am quite clear now.> > My

judgment is that the marriage was performed on 9.05.1997> > I am tired, bye

for now> > regards,> > utpal> > > > Jeyaram <jeyaram009>

wrote:Respected List Members,> > Following is the accurate data of a married

couple:> HUSBAND:> DOB: 20.01.1968> TOB: 02:55 HRS (between night of 19th and

morning of 20th)> POB: Bangalore (Karnataka State, India)> >

WIFE:> DOB: 23.06.1974> TOB: 22:15 HRS> POB: Mysore (Karnataka State, India)> >

Please assume that the birth time rectification is not required.> > Could you

please tell which of the following was their marriage> date ?> option A)

January 26, 1997> option B) August 22, 1999> option C) May 9, 1997> option D)

August 17, 1998> > Your analysis would be a great learning experience for lots

of list> members, including me.> > Request you to use as many versatile tools

as possible like> Vimshottari Dasa, Rasi Narayana Dasa, Navamsa Narayana Dasa,

Tithi> Pravesh Chakra, Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Varga Transit, Astakavarga,> Double

Transit Principle, Sarvotobhadra Chakra, Sudharshan Chakra,> Prasna etc.> > The

answer to this puzzle will be posted on May 24, 2005.> > Thanks & Respectful

Regards> Jeyaram>

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Re: [vedic astrology] #2: Re: Marriage Puzzle! - Wife's Analysis - to Jayaram

jeyaram009

In-20050520080347.43278.qmailDear Jayaram,

today my mind was not calm in the late morning. I was doing many things at same

time and heistily looked at wife's chart. even after correcting my self, i had

feeling that i may have gone wrong again. I checked the chart again and found

that i have repeated the mistake in Dasha period.This is turning out to be

comedy of errors. I was reluctant to see wife's chart and when tried to see

today in hurry, i made mistakes.

Though now i am at peace and looked at the chart & my analysis again.

the lady was running ven/jU/ven on 26.1 & Ven/Ju/Moon on 9th may. both the dates

are capable to bestow merraige.

Moon is also becuse it is placed with UL +A7 lord Mars in D1 & UL +A7 lord

mercury in D9.

the other analysis of Transit & TP Remains.

One more point i looked for this time is 'Vivah Sahams' to have a one more clue.

It is in Mesha and lord is again Mars.

if you see now Transit on 9th May, 7th lord Sun is in Mesha (Where Vivah saham

is placed) & Mars (Lord of Vivah Saham) is in 7th house. hence 7th lord & Vivah

Saham lord has exchanged the places. their placement is also conducive as both

are transiting thro' Kaam Trikona.

where as on 26th of Jan, both are placed in 8th & 12 th house in transit.

This confirms that though 26.1 jan is a very potent marriage giving period in

terms of Pratyantar period, 9th may seems to be the most fitting one.

lastly i'll say that by giving 2 charts & 4 dates you have made people to do lot of exercise.

best regards,

yours

utpal pathak Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote:

Dear Jayarama,