Rashi Divisions -More thoughts

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Dear Respected members

 

I am posting something written for another list.

 

Rashi/Kshethra/Bhava etc being used with interchange by translators

is a reason for confusion.Bhava and the first division of a Rashi

having similar boundaries added more to it.Rashi as a first

division, and Rashi as an aadhara for bhava,though same, has to be

understood and analysed differently.When we percieve them as an

aadhara for bhavas we can apply house concept ,aspects, various

lagnas like - bhavat bhavam,karakamsha,surya,chandra,navamsha etc.

When we use them as the first division we can just see the kshethra

of various bhavanathas and their lords for the purpose given by

sage.Kendras as you have said is a 90 degree relationship.Aries

amsha from Aries Rashi and cancer amsha from taurus rashi when

arranged together, cannot form kendras.

 

The role any planet is supposed to play can be broadly classified

under 1) Bhavas they lord 2)Natural Karakatwas.

Karakatwas are independent of the chart while bhava lordships are

dependent.A planet is subjected to broader and finer environmental

influences called as divisions of a Rashi.These finer environments

may also be holding a clue about past life and desires. 9th lord's

divisions explaining devotional levels, even of past life,makes one

think like that.Here one can find that 9th lord is not belonging to

any division,but to the rashi chakra, forming an aadhara for

bhavas.9th lords vimshamsha may be the main amsha to be seen for

these matters.

 

For the same reason, each and every division, (or divisional chart -

if one wants to arrange them together), can be constructed from

Rashi chakra.If Rashi chakra is just the first division, how can we

find subsequent divisions from a division itself.Also for the same

reason we can see every aspect pertaining to a jataka from the Rashi

chakra using bhavat bhavam and various lagnas.How can one see

everything,if it is just a division.Thus my understanding is - Rashi

chakra is not the Division -1, but each rashi is. Any 1/9th of any

rashi is a Division-9.Parashara too has said the same while

explaining various divisions of a Rashi.

 

Others who have understood this better, may ignore my views.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

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|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Dear Vijay,

 

My Understanding of what you wrote is that you are assuming that

Rashi or Zodiac is just one circle. And Divisionals are just seeing

degrees or breaking up of arcs on the circumference.

 

But if you think Zodiac to be Circles within circles within circles

etc. You would get a picture of something like Spiraling (multiple

spirals).

 

For example in Navamsa By the time you make one circle you already

made 9 self circles or sub circles.

 

Each Circle is zodiac, The whole big circle is also a zodiac and sub

circles are also zodiac. Think of this like a Spring of 9 circles

strung around to from another big cycle.

 

Subcircles can aspect each other other within same subcircle, since

they are in same 'circumference', So Divisionals planets can aspect

each other in that mutual sub circle. This is just one way of

understanding is what I propose.

 

I hope I dint complicate my language.

 

Ofcourse the Maharishi's dont explain it this way, but they used

recursive language like "Vritta Trayam Trayam" (Circle Trice Trice ) etc.

 

Texts and Various Yantras show them like petals within zones. One has

to meditate on all those yantra to get a better picture.

The Rashi Chart itself is drawn as Yantra.

 

Warm Regards

Sanjay P.

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

<vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> Dear Respected members

>

> I am posting something written for another list.

>

> Rashi/Kshethra/Bhava etc being used with interchange by translators

> is a reason for confusion.Bhava and the first division of a Rashi

> having similar boundaries added more to it.Rashi as a first

> division, and Rashi as an aadhara for bhava,though same, has to be

> understood and analysed differently.When we percieve them as an

> aadhara for bhavas we can apply house concept ,aspects, various

> lagnas like - bhavat bhavam,karakamsha,surya,chandra,navamsha etc.

> When we use them as the first division we can just see the kshethra

> of various bhavanathas and their lords for the purpose given by

> sage.Kendras as you have said is a 90 degree relationship.Aries

> amsha from Aries Rashi and cancer amsha from taurus rashi when

> arranged together, cannot form kendras.

>

> The role any planet is supposed to play can be broadly classified

> under 1) Bhavas they lord 2)Natural Karakatwas.

> Karakatwas are independent of the chart while bhava lordships are

> dependent.A planet is subjected to broader and finer environmental

> influences called as divisions of a Rashi.These finer environments

> may also be holding a clue about past life and desires. 9th lord's

> divisions explaining devotional levels, even of past life,makes one

> think like that.Here one can find that 9th lord is not belonging to

> any division,but to the rashi chakra, forming an aadhara for

> bhavas.9th lords vimshamsha may be the main amsha to be seen for

> these matters.

>

> For the same reason, each and every division, (or divisional chart -

> if one wants to arrange them together), can be constructed from

> Rashi chakra.If Rashi chakra is just the first division, how can we

> find subsequent divisions from a division itself.Also for the same

> reason we can see every aspect pertaining to a jataka from the Rashi

> chakra using bhavat bhavam and various lagnas.How can one see

> everything,if it is just a division.Thus my understanding is - Rashi

> chakra is not the Division -1, but each rashi is. Any 1/9th of any

> rashi is a Division-9.Parashara too has said the same while

> explaining various divisions of a Rashi.

>

> Others who have understood this better, may ignore my views.

>

> Thanks

> Pradeep