Miscellaneous Replies for April 23, 2005[PVR]

[Guest guest]

Dear Narasimha,

A nice shloka indeed. I did not know that you are a good composer of

shloka. My compliments.

Chandrashekhar.

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao wrote:

Dear Vijay,

> > Best regards,

> > -Vijay

> >

> > ps. I hope you will share with us your presentation at the

seminar on

> > financial astrology.

I do not have any written material, but I do have some PowerPoint

presentations that I used at the seminar. I can share them with you in

a few days. I am also planning to make some stock market preedictions

using the techniques I presented at the seminar, which included

compressed Vimsottari dasa of Kartika Sukla Pratipada chart and

Sarvatobhadra chakra transits on the compressed Tribhagi Vimsottari

dasa star of the same chart.

For now, I uploaded a small shloka on my website. This is a shloka I

wrote recently on Lord Shiva at Arsha Vidya Gurukulam at Saylorsburg.

This shloka asks Lord Dakshinamurthy of Saylorsburg to bless the Vedic

astrologers by living in their intellect and giving them wisdom. I had

the nice opportunity of reciting this shloka before the idol of Lord

Dakshinamurthy, before a panel discussion. You can read the Shlokam in

Sanskrit/English and read the translation at:

http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/mantras/shiva_may_2005.gif

For those who know Sanskrit metres, this uses a metre known as

"Shaardoola Vikreeditam".

> > My teacher RG Krishnan had also presented at the

> > seminar.

I had the great fortune of meeting Sri Krishnan and taking his

blessings. It is such a pleasure to meet a saattwik man like him. In

fact, meeting him and taking his blessings were the highlight of my

trip. He seemed so knowledgable, simple, humble and open-minded. We

find such men of golden heart very rarely these days. Vishnu lives in

the hearts of such people. You are very fortunate to have him as your

guru.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

Sunday, April 24, 2005 10:31 PM

Re: Miscellaneous Replies for April 23, 2005[PVR]

Dear Vijay,

> Dear PVRji,

>

> I apologize if what I wrote was construed as malignment. This

was not

> my intention as I had stated in the mail. When I meant SJC

group, I

> was really referring to Shri Sanjay Rath alone. I am a beginner

and

> looked around initially for proof of aptitude amongst various

Even if you were "really referring to Shri Sanjay Rath alone", I take

an exception to your original assertion (that you did not find any

correct predictions from the SJC group). Irrespective of your

intetions, such discrediting in a public list is in poor taste.

Sanjay ji made a lot of correct predictions on mundane events. When

Vajpayee government lost the confidence vote in April 1999, some big

name astrologers were putting their money on Sonia Gandhi. But Sanjay

ji predicted that Vajpayee would stay in power. At the time of Bill

Clinton impeachment, Sanjay ji predicted that Clinton would remain in

power. He made several successful predictions on Naveen Patnaik. He

made many other correct predictions.

His only two failures in mundane astrology that I remember came last

year. He (like many) judged the Indian elections incorrectly. He also

went wrong on George W re-election, but I personally know that it was

an emotional prediction than an astrological one. He and I spent one

whole day at my home rectifying and judging the charts of Kerry and

Bush. We came to the conclusion that Bush would win. But Sanjay ji went

in front of a pro-Kerry crowd at a workshop and preidcted that Kerry

would win. I had to then go against his prediction and predict a Bush

victory.

Apart from these two wrong predictions last year, I am not aware of

any wrong predictions by him.

In individual horoscopy, I have personally seen a lot of amazing

predictions by him.

> teachers. I found Shri KN Rao to be excellant and his books are

> remarkable. I did not find anyone else to be anywhere close to

him

> based on publicly known predictions. This of course does not

mean

> that Shri Sanjay Rath is not good or anything, just that I am

not

> aware of his public predictions. I will also kindly request

yourself/

> Sanjay Rath to post predictions on his website so that people

can

> judge for themselves- this will also convince skeptics as well

as

> bring more credibility to the field of astrology in general (the

> argument that people avoid predictions to avoid public fame and

> adulation is a very weak one).

Mundane horoscopy is lot less scientifically developed than

individual horoscopy. Many times, correct data is not available.

Moreover, several mundane predictions tend to have good odds too and

not that amazing.

If the goal is to convince skeptics, individual horoscopy is a better

candidate.

Let me suggest a simple challenge.

Can astrologers take up a challenge where rationalists would give

them 50 accurate charts and give multiple choice questions involving

events in those charts. For example, the question can be - when did the

person marry? Answers can be (a) Apr 1990, (b) Aug 1991, © Jul 1993,

(d) Sep 1994, (e) Feb 1995.

If a challenge like this is given, are we confident that we can score

45 out of 50?

I am not fully confident today, but I am hopeful of being able to

take such a challenge in not-too-far future.

Such structured challenges can serve the purpose of convincing

skeptics more than making some mundane predictions.

Anyway, we do make predictions from time to time on various

.

> Your post on Kargil war was remarkable I should say. This

happened

> more than 5 years ago and I would like to know about more

> predictions, how many of them turned out correctly etc. Puzzles

are

I never counted them. Those who like me will remember my correct

predictions and those who dislike me will remember my incorrect

predictions.

I have great failures such as Gore win and BJP re-election in 2004.

But I have some good predictions too. Bush re-election and Vajpayee

re-election in 1999 are perhaps not great predictions because they had

a 50% chance. There are others that were more credible. For example,

when the Iraq war started, I did predict on vedic astrology

when the Hussein govt would fall. Exactly during that week, US entered

Baghdad and took control of Baghdas. It happened so quickly that nobody

else seemed to have expected it. Many seemed to think Baghdad would

fall after 3-4 weeks, but I predicted a much quicker fall. After

September 11, I predicted the week in which US would attack Afghanistan

and the week in which Kabul would fall. Both were correct and they were

predicted based on Rudramsa Mandoola dasa of the lunar new year charts.

But there was far greater success for me in individual horoscopy than

in mundane horoscopy. There were many occasions when people told me

that I told them something would happen in so and so month or week and

it happened. But most of these things are private and not public.

However, on vedic astrology , there were some examples.

> interesting but not necessarily proof of validity (at least on

one

> occasion I used only common sense to arrive at the answer)

Well, I beg to differ. It depends on the puzzles. Some puzzles are

easy to guess and some are not. For example, one guy who lost his job

posted a puzzle on vedic astrology list in the last week of January

asking when he would get a job. I and my students at Boston (it's in

the class audio) saw his chart and said that he would find a job in the

coming week, that it would be a contract job and that he would find a

better permanent job during March 21-Apr 11. That guy confirmed on v-a

list that he got a contract job in the next week and he confirmed to me

by private mail that he got a better permanent job at the end of March.

This has a low random probability. I know several people who have

been looking for a job for months. The probability of finding a job

within 10 days is not high. To guess that it would be a contract job

and that another permanent offer would come in March 21-Apr 11 is not

easy without some reasonable astrological principles. Mind you, this

was done with some small help by me by some guys who started learning

astrology last May.So they were relying on replicable astro-principles

more than on sadhana.

If you ask me, blind puzzles based on charts of normal people are a

better way to judge techniques than 50% probability predictions based

on speculative charts of public figures or nations.

> Let me also add that among the next generation astrologers, you

are

> one of the most prominent ones. I will also make this prediction

> (without using any astrology) that in coming decades your

> contributions will equal or exceed that of BV Raman or KN Rao. I

am

Thanks for your prediction, but the reason for my taking offense at

your discrediting remarks on the "SJC group" is not egoistic. I am not

looking for praises. My only interest is in perfecting my knowledge.

The rest is all maya. Recognition, name and fame are all just an

illusion. True knowledge is the only thing that is permanent and will

accompany me into my next lives.

Different people operate under different circumstances and their

contributions cannot be compared. Also, in my opinion, nobody can come

close to Dr Raman's contributions. He belongs to a different level,

like Varahamihira.

> also grateful for all the detailed and indepth clarifications

that

> you have given in the past and continue to give, inspite of the

busy

> life you lead.

>

> Once again I hope my questioning and healthy skepticism is not

taken

> as criticism/defamement in any manner whatsoever - I state again

that

> this was not my aim at all.

Well, question how a technique works and I will be glad to answer.

Ask for examples and I will be glad to show examples. But to question a

whole group's success based on your limited exposure to their work

amounts to a propaganda and unfair discrediting. Discussions on the

success of individuals and groups are usually a bad idea for public

lists. They have scope for smear and ill-intentioned propaganda. It is

tough to distinguish smear from genuine questioning, and it does harm

to the image of the parties involved.

It also increase rajas in the parties involved. Instead, focussing on

techniques and not discussing successes of people increases sattva more.

> Best regards,

> -Vijay

>

> ps. I hope you will share with us your presentation at the

seminar on

> financial astrology. My teacher RG Krishnan had also presented

at the

> seminar.

I will try.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

-------------------------------

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Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

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[Guest guest]

Dear Narasimha,

Yes Saravali does have some golden nuggets. Venus is also called Kavi

and in Natal chart too he is conjunct Lagnesh Budha aspects your 2nd

house. Perhaps Jupiter's aspect on Venus makes you write in praise of

the Lord.

You know, I have always admired you for your selfless service to

Jyotish and upright approach. With this ability to compose shloka my

admiration has only increased.

Chandrashekhar.

It is nice to know

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao wrote:

Dear Chandrashekhar ji,

Thank you for the compliments. By the grace of God and blessings of

elders, I learnt Sanskrit when young and am comfortable with the

language. I started composing poems in classical metres in Sanskrit and

Telugu languages when I was 9 or so.

In my navamsa chart, I have lagna lord Venus and Moon together in

Gemini. I think Saravali says that one with that combination becomes a

poet.

The "Navagraha Karavalamba Stotram" that you can find on my website was

also composed by me. The shloka on Krishna in the beginning of my book

("Vedic Astrology: An Integrated Approach") was also composed by me.

That is why it specifies my name ("govindassuranaayako(a)vatu sadaa

maam naarasimham natam").

Himanshu Mohan ji, thank you for the blessings.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

-------------------------------

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SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

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> Dear Narasimha,

> A nice shloka indeed. I did not know that you are a good composer

of

> shloka. My compliments.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Narasimha P.V.R. Rao wrote:

>

> > Dear Vijay,

> >

> > > > Best regards,

> > > > -Vijay

> > > >

> > > > ps. I hope you will share with us your presentation

at the seminar on

> > > > financial astrology.

> >

> > I do not have any written material, but I do have some

PowerPoint

> > presentations that I used at the seminar. I can share them

with you in

> > a few days. I am also planning to make some stock market

preedictions

> > using the techniques I presented at the seminar, which

included

> > compressed Vimsottari dasa of Kartika Sukla Pratipada chart

and

> > Sarvatobhadra chakra transits on the compressed Tribhagi

Vimsottari

> > dasa star of the same chart.

> >

> > For now, I uploaded a small shloka on my website. This is a

shloka I

> > wrote recently on Lord Shiva at Arsha Vidya Gurukulam at

Saylorsburg.

> > This shloka asks Lord Dakshinamurthy of Saylorsburg to bless

the Vedic

> > astrologers by living in their intellect and giving them

wisdom. I had

> > the nice opportunity of reciting this shloka before the idol

of Lord

> > Dakshinamurthy, before a panel discussion. You can read the

Shlokam in

> > Sanskrit/English and read the translation at:

> >

> > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/mantras/shiva_may_2005.gif

> >

> > For those who know Sanskrit metres, this uses a metre known

as

> > "Shaardoola Vikreeditam".

> >

> > > > My teacher RG Krishnan had also presented at the

> > > > seminar.

> >

> > I had the great fortune of meeting Sri Krishnan and taking

his

> > blessings. It is such a pleasure to meet a saattwik man like

him. In

> > fact, meeting him and taking his blessings were the highlight

of my

> > trip. He seemed so knowledgable, simple, humble and

open-minded. We

> > find such men of golden heart very rarely these days. Vishnu

lives in

> > the hearts of such people. You are very fortunate to have him

as your

> > guru.

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha