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Hope you remember me. i had tried to analyse charts of Tanu a couple of month

back. her mother was having Breast cancer. at that time i mentioned that Saturn

& rahu joint affliction to 4th house or lord or moon may explain cancer for her

mother.

 

now i came across another chart of same intrest. mother of the native suffers

from 'Cancer' same case like Tanu's mother and if you see in this chart, 4th

lord, Moon & 4th house, all are afflicted by Saturn & rahu.

 

chart details : - 14.04.1979, 1.35 pm, 72 e37, 23n02, india

 

this practical charts may help us

 

regards,

 

utpal

 

 

 

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Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar,

It is correct that in the chart 4th house , 4th lord and Moon is heavily

afflicted by Rasi drishti and grah dristi as well. This indicates the trouble

to the mother. But Sir, may you please elaborate the reason explaining how did

you suspect that her mother is suffering from Cancer only. Is it because of 4th

house affliction ? or any other method or planetary position ? When we see all

the three afflictions together we may suspect the problem with mother but to

pinpoint a particular desease present in the same house,sometime it is

confused. May I expect the illustration from you. Thanks and regards.

Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote:

Dear Tushankur,

 

Hope you remember me. i had tried to analyse charts of Tanu a couple of month

back. her mother was having Breast cancer. at that time i mentioned that Saturn

& rahu joint affliction to 4th house or lord or moon may explain cancer for her

mother.

 

now i came across another chart of same intrest. mother of the native suffers

from 'Cancer' same case like Tanu's mother and if you see in this chart, 4th

lord, Moon & 4th house, all are afflicted by Saturn & rahu.

 

chart details : - 14.04.1979, 1.35 pm, 72 e37, 23n02, india

 

this practical charts may help us

 

regards,

 

utpal

 

 

 

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Dear Uptal ji

Namaste

 

Yes - I do have your analysis with me and this is also a case on the same

lines. In D-12, 4th lord Mars (Badhaka too) is debilitated in maraka house

and afflicted from Saturn. 4th house (Ar) has malefics. Moon is fairly

aspected from Jup & yogakaraka Venus. Moon in D-9 is afflicted.

 

In Dhruv case - which you analysed - you rightly said - Sat (soon in Cn) &

Rahu (Pi) transit from Natal Moon (Sg) is difficult period. His Mother is

OK - she is taking Ayurvedic Treatment from Sw Ramdev Ashram - Kankhal,

Haridwar. Her right hand (right breast removed) is swallowed hugely and

stiffness is spreading at the back & neck. Moon Mahadasa & Moon anterdasa

is on till November 2005. Let us see what God has to say.

 

(See attached file: Dhruv.jhd)(See attached file: Tanu.jhd)(See attached

file: Pallavi.jhd)

 

regds

Tushankur

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Hope you remember me. i had tried to analyse charts of Tanu a couple of

month back. her mother was having Breast cancer. at that time i mentioned

that Saturn & rahu joint affliction to 4th house or lord or moon may

explain cancer for her mother.

 

now i came across another chart of same intrest. mother of the native

suffers from 'Cancer' same case like Tanu's mother and if you see in this

chart, 4th lord, Moon & 4th house, all are afflicted by Saturn & rahu.

 

chart details : - 14.04.1979, 1.35 pm, 72 e37, 23n02, india

 

this practical charts may help us

 

regards,

 

utpal

 

 

 

 

 

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I didn't susptec but i already knew that mother of the native is suffering with

Breast Cancer. I attributed it to Affliction (all factors which indicates

mother) by Rahu & Saturn jointly. I have not much knowledge about Desease

w.r.t. astrlogy but with study of few charts i have seen the above phenomina.

 

Tushankur has given chart's of children a month back. their mother is also

suffering with the same illness. hence such few more practical charts helps us

in forming an opinion.

 

regards,

utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

II Hare Ram Krishna II

Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar,

It is correct that in the chart 4th house , 4th lord and Moon is heavily

afflicted by Rasi drishti and grah dristi as well. This indicates the trouble

to the mother. But Sir, may you please elaborate the reason explaining how did

you suspect that her mother is suffering from Cancer only. Is it because of 4th

house affliction ? or any other method or planetary position ? When we see all

the three afflictions together we may suspect the problem with mother but to

pinpoint a particular desease present in the same house,sometime it is

confused. May I expect the illustration from you. Thanks and regards.

Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote:

Dear Tushankur,

 

Hope you remember me. i had tried to analyse charts of Tanu a couple of month

back. her mother was having Breast cancer. at that time i mentioned that Saturn

& rahu joint affliction to 4th house or lord or moon may explain cancer for her

mother.

 

now i came across another chart of same intrest. mother of the native suffers

from 'Cancer' same case like Tanu's mother and if you see in this chart, 4th

lord, Moon & 4th house, all are afflicted by Saturn & rahu.

 

chart details : - 14.04.1979, 1.35 pm, 72 e37, 23n02, india

 

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regards,

 

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Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar,

I rechecked the chart but could not find the indications of Cancer, However the

affliction to breast is visible. I tried to search out the case of cancer. Most

probably as per my readings ,it seems that sixth lord Jup is exalted in the

lagna in Karka rasi. Karka rasi rules over breast .Saturn being retrograted

afflicts the Jup. in lagna. Since Sat. is in Rahu/Ketu axis it has become more

malefic and poured his malefiscence quality to Jup. I read sometime in one of

the book that if Jup is afflicted by Sat. by conjunction or aspect may give

cancer. But I do not have its authenticity we have to check up with other

charts. As you have mentioned in earlier postings that you are checking up the

similar case in another chart also . So please check up whether in that also is

Jupiter is involved with Saturn ?

Thanks and regards

Ramesh Mishra

Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote:

Dear Mishraji,

 

I didn't susptec but i already knew that mother of the native is suffering with

Breast Cancer. I attributed it to Affliction (all factors which indicates

mother) by Rahu & Saturn jointly. I have not much knowledge about Desease

w.r.t. astrlogy but with study of few charts i have seen the above phenomina.

 

Tushankur has given chart's of children a month back. their mother is also

suffering with the same illness. hence such few more practical charts helps us

in forming an opinion.

 

regards,

utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

II Hare Ram Krishna II

Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar,

It is correct that in the chart 4th house , 4th lord and Moon is heavily

afflicted by Rasi drishti and grah dristi as well. This indicates the trouble

to the mother. But Sir, may you please elaborate the reason explaining how did

you suspect that her mother is suffering from Cancer only. Is it because of 4th

house affliction ? or any other method or planetary position ? When we see all

the three afflictions together we may suspect the problem with mother but to

pinpoint a particular desease present in the same house,sometime it is

confused. May I expect the illustration from you. Thanks and regards.

Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote:

Dear Tushankur,

 

Hope you remember me. i had tried to analyse charts of Tanu a couple of month

back. her mother was having Breast cancer. at that time i mentioned that Saturn

& rahu joint affliction to 4th house or lord or moon may explain cancer for her

mother.

 

now i came across another chart of same intrest. mother of the native suffers

from 'Cancer' same case like Tanu's mother and if you see in this chart, 4th

lord, Moon & 4th house, all are afflicted by Saturn & rahu.

 

chart details : - 14.04.1979, 1.35 pm, 72 e37, 23n02, india

 

this practical charts may help us

 

regards,

 

utpal

 

 

 

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My emphasize is mainly on 'Cancer' as a decease. When I analysed 'Tanu's case

(Whose mother is suffering from Breast Cancer) few weeks back. I had given an

explanation that, in D12 chart, 4th lord mars is afflicted by Rahu due to

conjuction & by Shani due to Graha as well as rashi drashti. If you see rashi

chart, 4th house & moon is with nodes and if you consider affliction to 4th

house due to Retrograde motion of shani then 4th house & Moon both are getting

afflicted by Rahu & Shani. chart details :- 19.5.1985, 12.45.12 am, 77 e 55,

29n06.

 

In the other case, which i have discussed, The mother of the native has cancer

(which body part is not known). here also if you noticed w.r.t to rashi chart,

4th lord, moon & 4th house all are afflicted with Rahu & Saturn.

in D12 also, 4th has Rahu & Sun and 4th lord Mars is aspected by Vakri Shani.

 

your point of Affliction to Guru is also noteworthy. as both the above charts

have Guru afflicted by Shani.

 

do you have V.P.Singh's chart. i think he had Exalted Guru in lagna. the other

planet position is not known to me. he also suffered with cancer.

 

one more point which is common in both the charts is that 4th house and/or 4th

lord or moon have affliction from Rahu & shani in D1 as well as D12. &

retrograde Shani adds to the malefic tendencies as well as its very malefic to

the cancer lagna of the the above nativity.

 

best regards,

 

utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

II Hare Ram Krishna II

Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar,

I rechecked the chart but could not find the indications of Cancer, However the

affliction to breast is visible. I tried to search out the case of cancer. Most

probably as per my readings ,it seems that sixth lord Jup is exalted in the

lagna in Karka rasi. Karka rasi rules over breast .Saturn being retrograted

afflicts the Jup. in lagna. Since Sat. is in Rahu/Ketu axis it has become more

malefic and poured his malefiscence quality to Jup. I read sometime in one of

the book that if Jup is afflicted by Sat. by conjunction or aspect may give

cancer. But I do not have its authenticity we have to check up with other

charts. As you have mentioned in earlier postings that you are checking up the

similar case in another chart also . So please check up whether in that also is

Jupiter is involved with Saturn ?

Thanks and regards

Ramesh Mishra

Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote:

Dear Mishraji,

 

I didn't susptec but i already knew that mother of the native is suffering with

Breast Cancer. I attributed it to Affliction (all factors which indicates

mother) by Rahu & Saturn jointly. I have not much knowledge about Desease

w.r.t. astrlogy but with study of few charts i have seen the above phenomina.

 

Tushankur has given chart's of children a month back. their mother is also

suffering with the same illness. hence such few more practical charts helps us

in forming an opinion.

 

regards,

utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

II Hare Ram Krishna II

Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar,

It is correct that in the chart 4th house , 4th lord and Moon is heavily

afflicted by Rasi drishti and grah dristi as well. This indicates the trouble

to the mother. But Sir, may you please elaborate the reason explaining how did

you suspect that her mother is suffering from Cancer only. Is it because of 4th

house affliction ? or any other method or planetary position ? When we see all

the three afflictions together we may suspect the problem with mother but to

pinpoint a particular desease present in the same house,sometime it is

confused. May I expect the illustration from you. Thanks and regards.

Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote:

Dear Tushankur,

 

Hope you remember me. i had tried to analyse charts of Tanu a couple of month

back. her mother was having Breast cancer. at that time i mentioned that Saturn

& rahu joint affliction to 4th house or lord or moon may explain cancer for her

mother.

 

now i came across another chart of same intrest. mother of the native suffers

from 'Cancer' same case like Tanu's mother and if you see in this chart, 4th

lord, Moon & 4th house, all are afflicted by Saturn & rahu.

 

chart details : - 14.04.1979, 1.35 pm, 72 e37, 23n02, india

 

this practical charts may help us

 

regards,

 

utpal

 

 

 

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II Hare Ram Krishna II

Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar,

I checked up both the charts and my suspicion was correct. In both the charts

Jup and Mangal is in the influence of Sat. Whether it is Rasi , Navamsa or

Dwadasamsa. So this indicates the cancer.

D-12 is for parents. For mother we have to check up the fourth house, 4th lord,

4th sign and karaka mother. All these parameters satisfy the condition. Thanks

for quick response. If you have any chart for this type please give me the

data. I do not have V P Singh's chart at present but in some of my books I have

seen his birth details. I have to search it in my library so whenever I get it

I shall post it to you. You mean Ex- Prime Minister of India ?

Warm Regards,

Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote:

Dear Mishra ji,

 

My emphasize is mainly on 'Cancer' as a decease. When I analysed 'Tanu's case

(Whose mother is suffering from Breast Cancer) few weeks back. I had given an

explanation that, in D12 chart, 4th lord mars is afflicted by Rahu due to

conjuction & by Shani due to Graha as well as rashi drashti. If you see rashi

chart, 4th house & moon is with nodes and if you consider affliction to 4th

house due to Retrograde motion of shani then 4th house & Moon both are getting

afflicted by Rahu & Shani. chart details :- 19.5.1985, 12.45.12 am, 77 e 55,

29n06.

 

In the other case, which i have discussed, The mother of the native has cancer

(which body part is not known). here also if you noticed w.r.t to rashi chart,

4th lord, moon & 4th house all are afflicted with Rahu & Saturn.

in D12 also, 4th has Rahu & Sun and 4th lord Mars is aspected by Vakri Shani.

 

your point of Affliction to Guru is also noteworthy. as both the above charts

have Guru afflicted by Shani.

 

do you have V.P.Singh's chart. i think he had Exalted Guru in lagna. the other

planet position is not known to me. he also suffered with cancer.

 

one more point which is common in both the charts is that 4th house and/or 4th

lord or moon have affliction from Rahu & shani in D1 as well as D12. &

retrograde Shani adds to the malefic tendencies as well as its very malefic to

the cancer lagna of the the above nativity.

 

best regards,

 

utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

II Hare Ram Krishna II

Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar,

I rechecked the chart but could not find the indications of Cancer, However the

affliction to breast is visible. I tried to search out the case of cancer. Most

probably as per my readings ,it seems that sixth lord Jup is exalted in the

lagna in Karka rasi. Karka rasi rules over breast .Saturn being retrograted

afflicts the Jup. in lagna. Since Sat. is in Rahu/Ketu axis it has become more

malefic and poured his malefiscence quality to Jup. I read sometime in one of

the book that if Jup is afflicted by Sat. by conjunction or aspect may give

cancer. But I do not have its authenticity we have to check up with other

charts. As you have mentioned in earlier postings that you are checking up the

similar case in another chart also . So please check up whether in that also is

Jupiter is involved with Saturn ?

Thanks and regards

Ramesh Mishra

Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote:

Dear Mishraji,

 

I didn't susptec but i already knew that mother of the native is suffering with

Breast Cancer. I attributed it to Affliction (all factors which indicates

mother) by Rahu & Saturn jointly. I have not much knowledge about Desease

w.r.t. astrlogy but with study of few charts i have seen the above phenomina.

 

Tushankur has given chart's of children a month back. their mother is also

suffering with the same illness. hence such few more practical charts helps us

in forming an opinion.

 

regards,

utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

II Hare Ram Krishna II

Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar,

It is correct that in the chart 4th house , 4th lord and Moon is heavily

afflicted by Rasi drishti and grah dristi as well. This indicates the trouble

to the mother. But Sir, may you please elaborate the reason explaining how did

you suspect that her mother is suffering from Cancer only. Is it because of 4th

house affliction ? or any other method or planetary position ? When we see all

the three afflictions together we may suspect the problem with mother but to

pinpoint a particular desease present in the same house,sometime it is

confused. May I expect the illustration from you. Thanks and regards.

Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote:

Dear Tushankur,

 

Hope you remember me. i had tried to analyse charts of Tanu a couple of month

back. her mother was having Breast cancer. at that time i mentioned that Saturn

& rahu joint affliction to 4th house or lord or moon may explain cancer for her

mother.

 

now i came across another chart of same intrest. mother of the native suffers

from 'Cancer' same case like Tanu's mother and if you see in this chart, 4th

lord, Moon & 4th house, all are afflicted by Saturn & rahu.

 

chart details : - 14.04.1979, 1.35 pm, 72 e37, 23n02, india

 

this practical charts may help us

 

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Namaskar!

you wrote:

[

I checked up both the charts and my suspicion was correct. In both the charts

Jup and Mangal is in the influence of Sat. Whether it is Rasi , Navamsa or

Dwadasamsa. So this indicates the cancer.

]

Here i need to comment that in the other natives chart, Mars is NOT afflicted by

Saturn in Rashi chart. I feel that Saturn & Rahu are the main culprit which can

cause dreadfull deasese like cancer if jointly afflict. any way that's my

opinion.

 

Yes our Ex PM VP singh

 

regards,

 

Utpal ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

II Hare Ram Krishna II

Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar,

I checked up both the charts and my suspicion was correct. In both the charts

Jup and Mangal is in the influence of Sat. Whether it is Rasi , Navamsa or

Dwadasamsa. So this indicates the cancer.

D-12 is for parents. For mother we have to check up the fourth house, 4th lord,

4th sign and karaka mother. All these parameters satisfy the condition. Thanks

for quick response. If you have any chart for this type please give me the

data. I do not have V P Singh's chart at present but in some of my books I have

seen his birth details. I have to search it in my library so whenever I get it

I shall post it to you. You mean Ex- Prime Minister of India ?

Warm Regards,

Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote:

Dear Mishra ji,

 

My emphasize is mainly on 'Cancer' as a decease. When I analysed 'Tanu's case

(Whose mother is suffering from Breast Cancer) few weeks back. I had given an

explanation that, in D12 chart, 4th lord mars is afflicted by Rahu due to

conjuction & by Shani due to Graha as well as rashi drashti. If you see rashi

chart, 4th house & moon is with nodes and if you consider affliction to 4th

house due to Retrograde motion of shani then 4th house & Moon both are getting

afflicted by Rahu & Shani. chart details :- 19.5.1985, 12.45.12 am, 77 e 55,

29n06.

 

In the other case, which i have discussed, The mother of the native has cancer

(which body part is not known). here also if you noticed w.r.t to rashi chart,

4th lord, moon & 4th house all are afflicted with Rahu & Saturn.

in D12 also, 4th has Rahu & Sun and 4th lord Mars is aspected by Vakri Shani.

 

your point of Affliction to Guru is also noteworthy. as both the above charts

have Guru afflicted by Shani.

 

do you have V.P.Singh's chart. i think he had Exalted Guru in lagna. the other

planet position is not known to me. he also suffered with cancer.

 

one more point which is common in both the charts is that 4th house and/or 4th

lord or moon have affliction from Rahu & shani in D1 as well as D12. &

retrograde Shani adds to the malefic tendencies as well as its very malefic to

the cancer lagna of the the above nativity.

 

best regards,

 

utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

II Hare Ram Krishna II

Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar,

I rechecked the chart but could not find the indications of Cancer, However the

affliction to breast is visible. I tried to search out the case of cancer. Most

probably as per my readings ,it seems that sixth lord Jup is exalted in the

lagna in Karka rasi. Karka rasi rules over breast .Saturn being retrograted

afflicts the Jup. in lagna. Since Sat. is in Rahu/Ketu axis it has become more

malefic and poured his malefiscence quality to Jup. I read sometime in one of

the book that if Jup is afflicted by Sat. by conjunction or aspect may give

cancer. But I do not have its authenticity we have to check up with other

charts. As you have mentioned in earlier postings that you are checking up the

similar case in another chart also . So please check up whether in that also is

Jupiter is involved with Saturn ?

Thanks and regards

Ramesh Mishra

Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote:

Dear Mishraji,

 

I didn't susptec but i already knew that mother of the native is suffering with

Breast Cancer. I attributed it to Affliction (all factors which indicates

mother) by Rahu & Saturn jointly. I have not much knowledge about Desease

w.r.t. astrlogy but with study of few charts i have seen the above phenomina.

 

Tushankur has given chart's of children a month back. their mother is also

suffering with the same illness. hence such few more practical charts helps us

in forming an opinion.

 

regards,

utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

II Hare Ram Krishna II

Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar,

It is correct that in the chart 4th house , 4th lord and Moon is heavily

afflicted by Rasi drishti and grah dristi as well. This indicates the trouble

to the mother. But Sir, may you please elaborate the reason explaining how did

you suspect that her mother is suffering from Cancer only. Is it because of 4th

house affliction ? or any other method or planetary position ? When we see all

the three afflictions together we may suspect the problem with mother but to

pinpoint a particular desease present in the same house,sometime it is

confused. May I expect the illustration from you. Thanks and regards.

Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote:

Dear Tushankur,

 

Hope you remember me. i had tried to analyse charts of Tanu a couple of month

back. her mother was having Breast cancer. at that time i mentioned that Saturn

& rahu joint affliction to 4th house or lord or moon may explain cancer for her

mother.

 

now i came across another chart of same intrest. mother of the native suffers

from 'Cancer' same case like Tanu's mother and if you see in this chart, 4th

lord, Moon & 4th house, all are afflicted by Saturn & rahu.

 

chart details : - 14.04.1979, 1.35 pm, 72 e37, 23n02, india

 

this practical charts may help us

 

regards,

 

utpal

 

 

 

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Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar,

You are correct. Only that chart.Rest others are having combinations.

Thanks for the note.

Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote:

Dear Mishra ji,

Namaskar!

you wrote:

[

I checked up both the charts and my suspicion was correct. In both the charts

Jup and Mangal is in the influence of Sat. Whether it is Rasi , Navamsa or

Dwadasamsa. So this indicates the cancer.

]

Here i need to comment that in the other natives chart, Mars is NOT afflicted by

Saturn in Rashi chart. I feel that Saturn & Rahu are the main culprit which can

cause dreadfull deasese like cancer if jointly afflict. any way that's my

opinion.

 

Yes our Ex PM VP singh

 

regards,

 

Utpal ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

II Hare Ram Krishna II

Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar,

I checked up both the charts and my suspicion was correct. In both the charts

Jup and Mangal is in the influence of Sat. Whether it is Rasi , Navamsa or

Dwadasamsa. So this indicates the cancer.

D-12 is for parents. For mother we have to check up the fourth house, 4th lord,

4th sign and karaka mother. All these parameters satisfy the condition. Thanks

for quick response. If you have any chart for this type please give me the

data. I do not have V P Singh's chart at present but in some of my books I have

seen his birth details. I have to search it in my library so whenever I get it

I shall post it to you. You mean Ex- Prime Minister of India ?

Warm Regards,

Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote:

Dear Mishra ji,

 

My emphasize is mainly on 'Cancer' as a decease. When I analysed 'Tanu's case

(Whose mother is suffering from Breast Cancer) few weeks back. I had given an

explanation that, in D12 chart, 4th lord mars is afflicted by Rahu due to

conjuction & by Shani due to Graha as well as rashi drashti. If you see rashi

chart, 4th house & moon is with nodes and if you consider affliction to 4th

house due to Retrograde motion of shani then 4th house & Moon both are getting

afflicted by Rahu & Shani. chart details :- 19.5.1985, 12.45.12 am, 77 e 55,

29n06.

 

In the other case, which i have discussed, The mother of the native has cancer

(which body part is not known). here also if you noticed w.r.t to rashi chart,

4th lord, moon & 4th house all are afflicted with Rahu & Saturn.

in D12 also, 4th has Rahu & Sun and 4th lord Mars is aspected by Vakri Shani.

 

your point of Affliction to Guru is also noteworthy. as both the above charts

have Guru afflicted by Shani.

 

do you have V.P.Singh's chart. i think he had Exalted Guru in lagna. the other

planet position is not known to me. he also suffered with cancer.

 

one more point which is common in both the charts is that 4th house and/or 4th

lord or moon have affliction from Rahu & shani in D1 as well as D12. &

retrograde Shani adds to the malefic tendencies as well as its very malefic to

the cancer lagna of the the above nativity.

 

best regards,

 

utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

II Hare Ram Krishna II

Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar,

I rechecked the chart but could not find the indications of Cancer, However the

affliction to breast is visible. I tried to search out the case of cancer. Most

probably as per my readings ,it seems that sixth lord Jup is exalted in the

lagna in Karka rasi. Karka rasi rules over breast .Saturn being retrograted

afflicts the Jup. in lagna. Since Sat. is in Rahu/Ketu axis it has become more

malefic and poured his malefiscence quality to Jup. I read sometime in one of

the book that if Jup is afflicted by Sat. by conjunction or aspect may give

cancer. But I do not have its authenticity we have to check up with other

charts. As you have mentioned in earlier postings that you are checking up the

similar case in another chart also . So please check up whether in that also is

Jupiter is involved with Saturn ?

Thanks and regards

Ramesh Mishra

Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote:

Dear Mishraji,

 

I didn't susptec but i already knew that mother of the native is suffering with

Breast Cancer. I attributed it to Affliction (all factors which indicates

mother) by Rahu & Saturn jointly. I have not much knowledge about Desease

w.r.t. astrlogy but with study of few charts i have seen the above phenomina.

 

Tushankur has given chart's of children a month back. their mother is also

suffering with the same illness. hence such few more practical charts helps us

in forming an opinion.

 

regards,

utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

II Hare Ram Krishna II

Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar,

It is correct that in the chart 4th house , 4th lord and Moon is heavily

afflicted by Rasi drishti and grah dristi as well. This indicates the trouble

to the mother. But Sir, may you please elaborate the reason explaining how did

you suspect that her mother is suffering from Cancer only. Is it because of 4th

house affliction ? or any other method or planetary position ? When we see all

the three afflictions together we may suspect the problem with mother but to

pinpoint a particular desease present in the same house,sometime it is

confused. May I expect the illustration from you. Thanks and regards.

Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote:

Dear Tushankur,

 

Hope you remember me. i had tried to analyse charts of Tanu a couple of month

back. her mother was having Breast cancer. at that time i mentioned that Saturn

& rahu joint affliction to 4th house or lord or moon may explain cancer for her

mother.

 

now i came across another chart of same intrest. mother of the native suffers

from 'Cancer' same case like Tanu's mother and if you see in this chart, 4th

lord, Moon & 4th house, all are afflicted by Saturn & rahu.

 

chart details : - 14.04.1979, 1.35 pm, 72 e37, 23n02, india

 

this practical charts may help us

 

regards,

 

utpal

 

 

 

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