Guest guest Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Hope you remember me. i had tried to analyse charts of Tanu a couple of month back. her mother was having Breast cancer. at that time i mentioned that Saturn & rahu joint affliction to 4th house or lord or moon may explain cancer for her mother. now i came across another chart of same intrest. mother of the native suffers from 'Cancer' same case like Tanu's mother and if you see in this chart, 4th lord, Moon & 4th house, all are afflicted by Saturn & rahu. chart details : - 14.04.1979, 1.35 pm, 72 e37, 23n02, india this practical charts may help us regards, utpal Discover Use to plan a weekend, have fun online &; more. Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar, It is correct that in the chart 4th house , 4th lord and Moon is heavily afflicted by Rasi drishti and grah dristi as well. This indicates the trouble to the mother. But Sir, may you please elaborate the reason explaining how did you suspect that her mother is suffering from Cancer only. Is it because of 4th house affliction ? or any other method or planetary position ? When we see all the three afflictions together we may suspect the problem with mother but to pinpoint a particular desease present in the same house,sometime it is confused. May I expect the illustration from you. Thanks and regards. Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote: Dear Tushankur, Hope you remember me. i had tried to analyse charts of Tanu a couple of month back. her mother was having Breast cancer. at that time i mentioned that Saturn & rahu joint affliction to 4th house or lord or moon may explain cancer for her mother. now i came across another chart of same intrest. mother of the native suffers from 'Cancer' same case like Tanu's mother and if you see in this chart, 4th lord, Moon & 4th house, all are afflicted by Saturn & rahu. chart details : - 14.04.1979, 1.35 pm, 72 e37, 23n02, india this practical charts may help us regards, utpal Discover Use to plan a weekend, have fun online & more. Check it out! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Dear Uptal ji Namaste Yes - I do have your analysis with me and this is also a case on the same lines. In D-12, 4th lord Mars (Badhaka too) is debilitated in maraka house and afflicted from Saturn. 4th house (Ar) has malefics. Moon is fairly aspected from Jup & yogakaraka Venus. Moon in D-9 is afflicted. In Dhruv case - which you analysed - you rightly said - Sat (soon in Cn) & Rahu (Pi) transit from Natal Moon (Sg) is difficult period. His Mother is OK - she is taking Ayurvedic Treatment from Sw Ramdev Ashram - Kankhal, Haridwar. Her right hand (right breast removed) is swallowed hugely and stiffness is spreading at the back & neck. Moon Mahadasa & Moon anterdasa is on till November 2005. Let us see what God has to say. (See attached file: Dhruv.jhd)(See attached file: Tanu.jhd)(See attached file: Pallavi.jhd) regds Tushankur 9810041401 UTPAL PATHAK Sent by: vedic astrology@y To ahoogroups.com vedic astrology cc 10 May 2005 06:32 Subject MST [vedic astrology] Dear Tushankur !! Saturn , Rahu & Cancer Please respond to vedic astrology@y ahoogroups.com Dear Tushankur, Hope you remember me. i had tried to analyse charts of Tanu a couple of month back. her mother was having Breast cancer. at that time i mentioned that Saturn & rahu joint affliction to 4th house or lord or moon may explain cancer for her mother. now i came across another chart of same intrest. mother of the native suffers from 'Cancer' same case like Tanu's mother and if you see in this chart, 4th lord, Moon & 4th house, all are afflicted by Saturn & rahu. chart details : - 14.04.1979, 1.35 pm, 72 e37, 23n02, india this practical charts may help us regards, utpal Discover Use to plan a weekend, have fun online & more. Check it out! vedic astrology/ vedic astrology Whilst this email has been checked for all known viruses, recipients should undertake their own virus checking as Xansa will not accept any liability whatsoever. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and protected by client privilege. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient. Please delete it and notify the sender if you have received it in error. Unauthorised use is prohibited. Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily the organisation. Xansa, Registered Office: 420 Thames Valley Park Drive, Thames Valley Park, Reading, RG6 1PU, UK. Registered in England No.1000954. t +44 (0)8702 416181 w www.xansa.com Attachment: Dhruv.jhd [not stored] Attachment: Tanu.jhd [not stored] Attachment: Pallavi.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 I didn't susptec but i already knew that mother of the native is suffering with Breast Cancer. I attributed it to Affliction (all factors which indicates mother) by Rahu & Saturn jointly. I have not much knowledge about Desease w.r.t. astrlogy but with study of few charts i have seen the above phenomina. Tushankur has given chart's of children a month back. their mother is also suffering with the same illness. hence such few more practical charts helps us in forming an opinion. regards, utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: II Hare Ram Krishna II Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar, It is correct that in the chart 4th house , 4th lord and Moon is heavily afflicted by Rasi drishti and grah dristi as well. This indicates the trouble to the mother. But Sir, may you please elaborate the reason explaining how did you suspect that her mother is suffering from Cancer only. Is it because of 4th house affliction ? or any other method or planetary position ? When we see all the three afflictions together we may suspect the problem with mother but to pinpoint a particular desease present in the same house,sometime it is confused. May I expect the illustration from you. Thanks and regards. Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote: Dear Tushankur, Hope you remember me. i had tried to analyse charts of Tanu a couple of month back. her mother was having Breast cancer. at that time i mentioned that Saturn & rahu joint affliction to 4th house or lord or moon may explain cancer for her mother. now i came across another chart of same intrest. mother of the native suffers from 'Cancer' same case like Tanu's mother and if you see in this chart, 4th lord, Moon & 4th house, all are afflicted by Saturn & rahu. chart details : - 14.04.1979, 1.35 pm, 72 e37, 23n02, india this practical charts may help us regards, utpal Discover Use to plan a weekend, have fun online & more. Check it out! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar, I rechecked the chart but could not find the indications of Cancer, However the affliction to breast is visible. I tried to search out the case of cancer. Most probably as per my readings ,it seems that sixth lord Jup is exalted in the lagna in Karka rasi. Karka rasi rules over breast .Saturn being retrograted afflicts the Jup. in lagna. Since Sat. is in Rahu/Ketu axis it has become more malefic and poured his malefiscence quality to Jup. I read sometime in one of the book that if Jup is afflicted by Sat. by conjunction or aspect may give cancer. But I do not have its authenticity we have to check up with other charts. As you have mentioned in earlier postings that you are checking up the similar case in another chart also . So please check up whether in that also is Jupiter is involved with Saturn ? Thanks and regards Ramesh Mishra Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote: Dear Mishraji, I didn't susptec but i already knew that mother of the native is suffering with Breast Cancer. I attributed it to Affliction (all factors which indicates mother) by Rahu & Saturn jointly. I have not much knowledge about Desease w.r.t. astrlogy but with study of few charts i have seen the above phenomina. Tushankur has given chart's of children a month back. their mother is also suffering with the same illness. hence such few more practical charts helps us in forming an opinion. regards, utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: II Hare Ram Krishna II Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar, It is correct that in the chart 4th house , 4th lord and Moon is heavily afflicted by Rasi drishti and grah dristi as well. This indicates the trouble to the mother. But Sir, may you please elaborate the reason explaining how did you suspect that her mother is suffering from Cancer only. Is it because of 4th house affliction ? or any other method or planetary position ? When we see all the three afflictions together we may suspect the problem with mother but to pinpoint a particular desease present in the same house,sometime it is confused. May I expect the illustration from you. Thanks and regards. Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote: Dear Tushankur, Hope you remember me. i had tried to analyse charts of Tanu a couple of month back. her mother was having Breast cancer. at that time i mentioned that Saturn & rahu joint affliction to 4th house or lord or moon may explain cancer for her mother. now i came across another chart of same intrest. mother of the native suffers from 'Cancer' same case like Tanu's mother and if you see in this chart, 4th lord, Moon & 4th house, all are afflicted by Saturn & rahu. chart details : - 14.04.1979, 1.35 pm, 72 e37, 23n02, india this practical charts may help us regards, utpal Discover Use to plan a weekend, have fun online & more. Check it out! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... MailStay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 My emphasize is mainly on 'Cancer' as a decease. When I analysed 'Tanu's case (Whose mother is suffering from Breast Cancer) few weeks back. I had given an explanation that, in D12 chart, 4th lord mars is afflicted by Rahu due to conjuction & by Shani due to Graha as well as rashi drashti. If you see rashi chart, 4th house & moon is with nodes and if you consider affliction to 4th house due to Retrograde motion of shani then 4th house & Moon both are getting afflicted by Rahu & Shani. chart details :- 19.5.1985, 12.45.12 am, 77 e 55, 29n06. In the other case, which i have discussed, The mother of the native has cancer (which body part is not known). here also if you noticed w.r.t to rashi chart, 4th lord, moon & 4th house all are afflicted with Rahu & Saturn. in D12 also, 4th has Rahu & Sun and 4th lord Mars is aspected by Vakri Shani. your point of Affliction to Guru is also noteworthy. as both the above charts have Guru afflicted by Shani. do you have V.P.Singh's chart. i think he had Exalted Guru in lagna. the other planet position is not known to me. he also suffered with cancer. one more point which is common in both the charts is that 4th house and/or 4th lord or moon have affliction from Rahu & shani in D1 as well as D12. & retrograde Shani adds to the malefic tendencies as well as its very malefic to the cancer lagna of the the above nativity. best regards, utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: II Hare Ram Krishna II Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar, I rechecked the chart but could not find the indications of Cancer, However the affliction to breast is visible. I tried to search out the case of cancer. Most probably as per my readings ,it seems that sixth lord Jup is exalted in the lagna in Karka rasi. Karka rasi rules over breast .Saturn being retrograted afflicts the Jup. in lagna. Since Sat. is in Rahu/Ketu axis it has become more malefic and poured his malefiscence quality to Jup. I read sometime in one of the book that if Jup is afflicted by Sat. by conjunction or aspect may give cancer. But I do not have its authenticity we have to check up with other charts. As you have mentioned in earlier postings that you are checking up the similar case in another chart also . So please check up whether in that also is Jupiter is involved with Saturn ? Thanks and regards Ramesh Mishra Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote: Dear Mishraji, I didn't susptec but i already knew that mother of the native is suffering with Breast Cancer. I attributed it to Affliction (all factors which indicates mother) by Rahu & Saturn jointly. I have not much knowledge about Desease w.r.t. astrlogy but with study of few charts i have seen the above phenomina. Tushankur has given chart's of children a month back. their mother is also suffering with the same illness. hence such few more practical charts helps us in forming an opinion. regards, utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: II Hare Ram Krishna II Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar, It is correct that in the chart 4th house , 4th lord and Moon is heavily afflicted by Rasi drishti and grah dristi as well. This indicates the trouble to the mother. But Sir, may you please elaborate the reason explaining how did you suspect that her mother is suffering from Cancer only. Is it because of 4th house affliction ? or any other method or planetary position ? When we see all the three afflictions together we may suspect the problem with mother but to pinpoint a particular desease present in the same house,sometime it is confused. May I expect the illustration from you. Thanks and regards. Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote: Dear Tushankur, Hope you remember me. i had tried to analyse charts of Tanu a couple of month back. her mother was having Breast cancer. at that time i mentioned that Saturn & rahu joint affliction to 4th house or lord or moon may explain cancer for her mother. now i came across another chart of same intrest. mother of the native suffers from 'Cancer' same case like Tanu's mother and if you see in this chart, 4th lord, Moon & 4th house, all are afflicted by Saturn & rahu. chart details : - 14.04.1979, 1.35 pm, 72 e37, 23n02, india this practical charts may help us regards, utpal Discover Use to plan a weekend, have fun online & more. Check it out! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. 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Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 II Hare Ram Krishna II Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar, I checked up both the charts and my suspicion was correct. In both the charts Jup and Mangal is in the influence of Sat. Whether it is Rasi , Navamsa or Dwadasamsa. So this indicates the cancer. D-12 is for parents. For mother we have to check up the fourth house, 4th lord, 4th sign and karaka mother. All these parameters satisfy the condition. Thanks for quick response. If you have any chart for this type please give me the data. I do not have V P Singh's chart at present but in some of my books I have seen his birth details. I have to search it in my library so whenever I get it I shall post it to you. You mean Ex- Prime Minister of India ? Warm Regards, Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote: Dear Mishra ji, My emphasize is mainly on 'Cancer' as a decease. When I analysed 'Tanu's case (Whose mother is suffering from Breast Cancer) few weeks back. I had given an explanation that, in D12 chart, 4th lord mars is afflicted by Rahu due to conjuction & by Shani due to Graha as well as rashi drashti. If you see rashi chart, 4th house & moon is with nodes and if you consider affliction to 4th house due to Retrograde motion of shani then 4th house & Moon both are getting afflicted by Rahu & Shani. chart details :- 19.5.1985, 12.45.12 am, 77 e 55, 29n06. In the other case, which i have discussed, The mother of the native has cancer (which body part is not known). here also if you noticed w.r.t to rashi chart, 4th lord, moon & 4th house all are afflicted with Rahu & Saturn. in D12 also, 4th has Rahu & Sun and 4th lord Mars is aspected by Vakri Shani. your point of Affliction to Guru is also noteworthy. as both the above charts have Guru afflicted by Shani. do you have V.P.Singh's chart. i think he had Exalted Guru in lagna. the other planet position is not known to me. he also suffered with cancer. one more point which is common in both the charts is that 4th house and/or 4th lord or moon have affliction from Rahu & shani in D1 as well as D12. & retrograde Shani adds to the malefic tendencies as well as its very malefic to the cancer lagna of the the above nativity. best regards, utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: II Hare Ram Krishna II Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar, I rechecked the chart but could not find the indications of Cancer, However the affliction to breast is visible. I tried to search out the case of cancer. Most probably as per my readings ,it seems that sixth lord Jup is exalted in the lagna in Karka rasi. Karka rasi rules over breast .Saturn being retrograted afflicts the Jup. in lagna. Since Sat. is in Rahu/Ketu axis it has become more malefic and poured his malefiscence quality to Jup. I read sometime in one of the book that if Jup is afflicted by Sat. by conjunction or aspect may give cancer. But I do not have its authenticity we have to check up with other charts. As you have mentioned in earlier postings that you are checking up the similar case in another chart also . So please check up whether in that also is Jupiter is involved with Saturn ? Thanks and regards Ramesh Mishra Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote: Dear Mishraji, I didn't susptec but i already knew that mother of the native is suffering with Breast Cancer. I attributed it to Affliction (all factors which indicates mother) by Rahu & Saturn jointly. I have not much knowledge about Desease w.r.t. astrlogy but with study of few charts i have seen the above phenomina. Tushankur has given chart's of children a month back. their mother is also suffering with the same illness. hence such few more practical charts helps us in forming an opinion. regards, utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: II Hare Ram Krishna II Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar, It is correct that in the chart 4th house , 4th lord and Moon is heavily afflicted by Rasi drishti and grah dristi as well. This indicates the trouble to the mother. But Sir, may you please elaborate the reason explaining how did you suspect that her mother is suffering from Cancer only. Is it because of 4th house affliction ? or any other method or planetary position ? When we see all the three afflictions together we may suspect the problem with mother but to pinpoint a particular desease present in the same house,sometime it is confused. May I expect the illustration from you. Thanks and regards. Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote: Dear Tushankur, Hope you remember me. i had tried to analyse charts of Tanu a couple of month back. her mother was having Breast cancer. at that time i mentioned that Saturn & rahu joint affliction to 4th house or lord or moon may explain cancer for her mother. now i came across another chart of same intrest. mother of the native suffers from 'Cancer' same case like Tanu's mother and if you see in this chart, 4th lord, Moon & 4th house, all are afflicted by Saturn & rahu. chart details : - 14.04.1979, 1.35 pm, 72 e37, 23n02, india this practical charts may help us regards, utpal Discover Use to plan a weekend, have fun online & more. Check it out! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. 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Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Namaskar! you wrote: [ I checked up both the charts and my suspicion was correct. In both the charts Jup and Mangal is in the influence of Sat. Whether it is Rasi , Navamsa or Dwadasamsa. So this indicates the cancer. ] Here i need to comment that in the other natives chart, Mars is NOT afflicted by Saturn in Rashi chart. I feel that Saturn & Rahu are the main culprit which can cause dreadfull deasese like cancer if jointly afflict. any way that's my opinion. Yes our Ex PM VP singh regards, Utpal ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: II Hare Ram Krishna II Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar, I checked up both the charts and my suspicion was correct. In both the charts Jup and Mangal is in the influence of Sat. Whether it is Rasi , Navamsa or Dwadasamsa. So this indicates the cancer. D-12 is for parents. For mother we have to check up the fourth house, 4th lord, 4th sign and karaka mother. All these parameters satisfy the condition. Thanks for quick response. If you have any chart for this type please give me the data. I do not have V P Singh's chart at present but in some of my books I have seen his birth details. I have to search it in my library so whenever I get it I shall post it to you. You mean Ex- Prime Minister of India ? Warm Regards, Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote: Dear Mishra ji, My emphasize is mainly on 'Cancer' as a decease. When I analysed 'Tanu's case (Whose mother is suffering from Breast Cancer) few weeks back. I had given an explanation that, in D12 chart, 4th lord mars is afflicted by Rahu due to conjuction & by Shani due to Graha as well as rashi drashti. If you see rashi chart, 4th house & moon is with nodes and if you consider affliction to 4th house due to Retrograde motion of shani then 4th house & Moon both are getting afflicted by Rahu & Shani. chart details :- 19.5.1985, 12.45.12 am, 77 e 55, 29n06. In the other case, which i have discussed, The mother of the native has cancer (which body part is not known). here also if you noticed w.r.t to rashi chart, 4th lord, moon & 4th house all are afflicted with Rahu & Saturn. in D12 also, 4th has Rahu & Sun and 4th lord Mars is aspected by Vakri Shani. your point of Affliction to Guru is also noteworthy. as both the above charts have Guru afflicted by Shani. do you have V.P.Singh's chart. i think he had Exalted Guru in lagna. the other planet position is not known to me. he also suffered with cancer. one more point which is common in both the charts is that 4th house and/or 4th lord or moon have affliction from Rahu & shani in D1 as well as D12. & retrograde Shani adds to the malefic tendencies as well as its very malefic to the cancer lagna of the the above nativity. best regards, utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: II Hare Ram Krishna II Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar, I rechecked the chart but could not find the indications of Cancer, However the affliction to breast is visible. I tried to search out the case of cancer. Most probably as per my readings ,it seems that sixth lord Jup is exalted in the lagna in Karka rasi. Karka rasi rules over breast .Saturn being retrograted afflicts the Jup. in lagna. Since Sat. is in Rahu/Ketu axis it has become more malefic and poured his malefiscence quality to Jup. I read sometime in one of the book that if Jup is afflicted by Sat. by conjunction or aspect may give cancer. But I do not have its authenticity we have to check up with other charts. As you have mentioned in earlier postings that you are checking up the similar case in another chart also . So please check up whether in that also is Jupiter is involved with Saturn ? Thanks and regards Ramesh Mishra Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote: Dear Mishraji, I didn't susptec but i already knew that mother of the native is suffering with Breast Cancer. I attributed it to Affliction (all factors which indicates mother) by Rahu & Saturn jointly. I have not much knowledge about Desease w.r.t. astrlogy but with study of few charts i have seen the above phenomina. Tushankur has given chart's of children a month back. their mother is also suffering with the same illness. hence such few more practical charts helps us in forming an opinion. regards, utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: II Hare Ram Krishna II Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar, It is correct that in the chart 4th house , 4th lord and Moon is heavily afflicted by Rasi drishti and grah dristi as well. This indicates the trouble to the mother. But Sir, may you please elaborate the reason explaining how did you suspect that her mother is suffering from Cancer only. Is it because of 4th house affliction ? or any other method or planetary position ? When we see all the three afflictions together we may suspect the problem with mother but to pinpoint a particular desease present in the same house,sometime it is confused. May I expect the illustration from you. Thanks and regards. Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote: Dear Tushankur, Hope you remember me. i had tried to analyse charts of Tanu a couple of month back. her mother was having Breast cancer. at that time i mentioned that Saturn & rahu joint affliction to 4th house or lord or moon may explain cancer for her mother. now i came across another chart of same intrest. mother of the native suffers from 'Cancer' same case like Tanu's mother and if you see in this chart, 4th lord, Moon & 4th house, all are afflicted by Saturn & rahu. chart details : - 14.04.1979, 1.35 pm, 72 e37, 23n02, india this practical charts may help us regards, utpal Discover Use to plan a weekend, have fun online & more. Check it out! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. 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Guest guest Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar, You are correct. Only that chart.Rest others are having combinations. Thanks for the note. Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote: Dear Mishra ji, Namaskar! you wrote: [ I checked up both the charts and my suspicion was correct. In both the charts Jup and Mangal is in the influence of Sat. Whether it is Rasi , Navamsa or Dwadasamsa. So this indicates the cancer. ] Here i need to comment that in the other natives chart, Mars is NOT afflicted by Saturn in Rashi chart. I feel that Saturn & Rahu are the main culprit which can cause dreadfull deasese like cancer if jointly afflict. any way that's my opinion. Yes our Ex PM VP singh regards, Utpal ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: II Hare Ram Krishna II Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar, I checked up both the charts and my suspicion was correct. In both the charts Jup and Mangal is in the influence of Sat. Whether it is Rasi , Navamsa or Dwadasamsa. So this indicates the cancer. D-12 is for parents. For mother we have to check up the fourth house, 4th lord, 4th sign and karaka mother. All these parameters satisfy the condition. Thanks for quick response. If you have any chart for this type please give me the data. I do not have V P Singh's chart at present but in some of my books I have seen his birth details. I have to search it in my library so whenever I get it I shall post it to you. You mean Ex- Prime Minister of India ? Warm Regards, Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote: Dear Mishra ji, My emphasize is mainly on 'Cancer' as a decease. When I analysed 'Tanu's case (Whose mother is suffering from Breast Cancer) few weeks back. I had given an explanation that, in D12 chart, 4th lord mars is afflicted by Rahu due to conjuction & by Shani due to Graha as well as rashi drashti. If you see rashi chart, 4th house & moon is with nodes and if you consider affliction to 4th house due to Retrograde motion of shani then 4th house & Moon both are getting afflicted by Rahu & Shani. chart details :- 19.5.1985, 12.45.12 am, 77 e 55, 29n06. In the other case, which i have discussed, The mother of the native has cancer (which body part is not known). here also if you noticed w.r.t to rashi chart, 4th lord, moon & 4th house all are afflicted with Rahu & Saturn. in D12 also, 4th has Rahu & Sun and 4th lord Mars is aspected by Vakri Shani. your point of Affliction to Guru is also noteworthy. as both the above charts have Guru afflicted by Shani. do you have V.P.Singh's chart. i think he had Exalted Guru in lagna. the other planet position is not known to me. he also suffered with cancer. one more point which is common in both the charts is that 4th house and/or 4th lord or moon have affliction from Rahu & shani in D1 as well as D12. & retrograde Shani adds to the malefic tendencies as well as its very malefic to the cancer lagna of the the above nativity. best regards, utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: II Hare Ram Krishna II Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar, I rechecked the chart but could not find the indications of Cancer, However the affliction to breast is visible. I tried to search out the case of cancer. Most probably as per my readings ,it seems that sixth lord Jup is exalted in the lagna in Karka rasi. Karka rasi rules over breast .Saturn being retrograted afflicts the Jup. in lagna. Since Sat. is in Rahu/Ketu axis it has become more malefic and poured his malefiscence quality to Jup. I read sometime in one of the book that if Jup is afflicted by Sat. by conjunction or aspect may give cancer. But I do not have its authenticity we have to check up with other charts. As you have mentioned in earlier postings that you are checking up the similar case in another chart also . So please check up whether in that also is Jupiter is involved with Saturn ? Thanks and regards Ramesh Mishra Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote: Dear Mishraji, I didn't susptec but i already knew that mother of the native is suffering with Breast Cancer. I attributed it to Affliction (all factors which indicates mother) by Rahu & Saturn jointly. I have not much knowledge about Desease w.r.t. astrlogy but with study of few charts i have seen the above phenomina. Tushankur has given chart's of children a month back. their mother is also suffering with the same illness. hence such few more practical charts helps us in forming an opinion. regards, utpalramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: II Hare Ram Krishna II Dear Pathak Ji, Namaskar, It is correct that in the chart 4th house , 4th lord and Moon is heavily afflicted by Rasi drishti and grah dristi as well. This indicates the trouble to the mother. But Sir, may you please elaborate the reason explaining how did you suspect that her mother is suffering from Cancer only. Is it because of 4th house affliction ? or any other method or planetary position ? When we see all the three afflictions together we may suspect the problem with mother but to pinpoint a particular desease present in the same house,sometime it is confused. May I expect the illustration from you. Thanks and regards. Ramesh MishraUtpal Pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote: Dear Tushankur, Hope you remember me. i had tried to analyse charts of Tanu a couple of month back. her mother was having Breast cancer. at that time i mentioned that Saturn & rahu joint affliction to 4th house or lord or moon may explain cancer for her mother. now i came across another chart of same intrest. mother of the native suffers from 'Cancer' same case like Tanu's mother and if you see in this chart, 4th lord, Moon & 4th house, all are afflicted by Saturn & rahu. chart details : - 14.04.1979, 1.35 pm, 72 e37, 23n02, india this practical charts may help us regards, utpal Discover Use to plan a weekend, have fun online & more. Check it out! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. 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