: puzzle:Answer:2nd eventMISGUIDANCETOTHEGULLIBLE Open letter to Vijayadas Pradeep

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Hare Krishna

Dear friends,

It might be a good idea for everyone to comtemplate this

just curious how many of you feel qualified to be an astrologer? Do

you have symptoms of pure heartedness and compassion? Maybe better to

try and learn from each other instead of advertising our flaws by

speaking ill of others.

-" Ethics of an Astrologer "

Parasara states that Maitreya's questions serve the welfare of the

humanity, and this indicates the motivation with which the disciple

should approach the Guru. If he wants to learn astrology in order to

gain money, recognition or control over others, the Guru should

reject him.

He also says that the students should be well-behaved and peaceful,

in other words he should be under the influence of the material mode

of goodness (Sattva-guna) and he should be respectful towards his

Guru. If the disciple is challenging, the Guru will not impart

knowledge upon him. The student should also believe in God and follow

His laws, and also instruct his clients to do so since this is the

best remedy for bad Karma. The student should always speak the truth,

even if in some cases he should give a prediction in a way that is

acceptable or helpful to his clients. The disqualifications are if

the student is lazy, does not believe in God, or wants to use

astrology for getting rich.

 

Varahamihira also elaborates on the qualifications of an astrologer

in the Brihat Samhita (2.2-3.): "An astrologer should belong to a

noble family, be good-looking, of modest appearance and dress,

truthful, free from jealousy, impartial, with well-proportioned and

strong limbs and joints, undeformed, with beautiful hands, feet,

nails, eyes, chin, teeth, ears, forehead, brows and head, with

handsome body and a voice deep and sonorous. For, virtues and foibles

are generally dependent on good and bad physical features.

The following are the virtues of the astrologer: He must be clean,

efficient, bold, eloquent, possessed of genius or ready wit, knower

of the time and place, sincere, not timid in assemblies, not to be

overpowered by his fellow students, expert, free from vices, well-

versed in the art of performing rituals of both curative and

preventive types, as well as in that of magic and bathing, engaged in

the worship of God, observances or austerities and fast, possessed of

great power generated by the wonderful achievements of his scientific

knowledge and capable of answering queries made by others and

suggesting remedial measures for troubles other than the visitations

of God. He must also be thoroughly conversant with works dealing with

calculations of planetary positions etc., Samhita and horoscopy in

their details."

Harihara adds the following:" The exalted and recondite science of

astrology is to be studied only by Brahmanas. A proper study of the

subject leads one to the acquisition of wealth, merit, salvation,

respect and fame. When even Mlecchas and Yava£as well versed in

astrology are held in the same esteem as rishis, who would deny

respect to an astrologer who happens to be a Brahmana?

That person, who has mastery of this science, who has a good

knowledge of mathematics, who leads a religious life, who is

truthful, who is free from conceit and who is well versed in the

Vedas, Mantras and Tantras, he alone can be called a Daivajña or

seer. All the predictions made by such a person will come true and

will never be false. The learned support this statement.

The predictions of one who has studied the ten kinds of planetary

motions and who has understood the inner principles of astrology will

never be falsified. He who has acquired a thorough knowledge of the

different Horas, who is an adept in the five Siddhantas, who has

inferential ability and who is initiated into a secret Mantra by a

perceptor, can alone know horoscopy." (1.13-18.)

>From the above we can conclude that any astrologer, who wants to

develop these qualifications is advised to practice the following

habits:

1. Become a vegetarian and avoid eating meat, fish, eggs, garlic,

onions and mushrooms. These foods will keep one under the influence

of the modes of passion and ignorance (Rajas and Tamas), which is

unfavourable for making correct predictions with clear consciousness.

One should offer his food to God and thus eat sanctified food.

2. Avoid using intoxicants and drugs, including alcohol, tobacco,

coffee and tea. These substances will also contaminate one's

consciousness and prevent him from getting the correct intuition from

Param§tm§ (God in the heart).

3. Avoid any illegal activities and try to live a virtuous life.

It is best to avoid gambling and sex outside of marriage as well.

4. Make a daily regular study of the Vedas and Jyotisha Shastra,

preferably starting at a time when Jupiter is in the Ascendant.

5. Pan¨ita Harihara emphasized the importance of the Jyotisha

Mantra received from the Guru. Therefore it is recommended that you

chant at least 1 Mala (108 times) of one of the following Mantras: Om

Krishna Guru

Om Hum Ram Caitanyayai Namah

Om Gurave Namah

Om Hrim Klim Dattatreyaya Namah

Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah

 

Importance of Mantra-japa

In this connection, Sri Krishna has advised in the Bhagavad-gita, as

follows:

mh _gurœ AhigM ASMy! @km! AKArm!

yJN jp£yJAae iSmSWv ihMly

"Of the great sages I am Bhrigu; of vibrations I am the

transcendental Om. Of sacrifices I am the chanting of the holy names

[japa], and of immovable things I am the Himalayas.

Maharishi Bhrigu is a very good example of the Jyotisha Siddhi

achieved by Mantra-Japa. Omkara is the essence of all Vedic Mantras,

and the unmanifest representative of the Absolulte Truth, because

Krishna says that the sages who vibrate the Omkara will achieve

Brahman. Here Krishna also states that the best sacrifice is Japa, or

repetition of the holy Mantras, by which the consciousness becomes

steady in the Absolute, like the Himalayas.

Tha Mantra-Shastra expounds the detailed science of Mantras and their

powers. However there is a number of strictures coming along with

most of the Vedic Mantras, in order to prevent the sadhaka from

misusing them and accidentally causing trouble. Details about Mantra-

Shastra and its astrological significance can be found out from Pt.

Sanjay Rath's Vedic Remedies in Astrology (Sagar Publications, Delhi,

2000.)

However there are certain Mantras which form an exception from the

stringent rules of the Vedas, and these are the Nama-Mantras,

consisting of the names of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. There

are no hard-and-fast rules in chanting these Mantras, and no

consideration of time, place circumstances, and purity of the

practitioner is necessary. On the other hand, these Mantras are the

most powerful, especially in this age of Kali-yuga, where it is

practically impossible to execute the Yuga-dharmas of the previous

ages (Dhyana or meditation in Satya-yuga, Yajña or fire sacrifices in

Treta-yuga and Arcana or Deity wirship in Dvapara-yuga), Thus in this

age the yuga-dharma is the simplest and most powerful process of the

four, namely harinama-sa¯kirtana, congregational chanting of the Holy

Names of Lord Hari. Therefore Sri Acyuta Dasa, the founder of the

SJVC Jyotisha-parampara, and a personal associate of Sri Caitanya

Mahaprabhu, has given the following Janaka-sadakshari Mantra as the

Guru Mantra of our Jyotisha Parampara:

Hare Rama Krishna

This Mantra was chanted by Janaka Maharaja, the father of Sita Devi,

and as a result, Bhagavan Hari Rama has become his son-in-law. This

is also the bija-mantra for the Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra taught by

Hari Caitanya Mahaprabhu, which is also found in the Kali-santarana

Upanishad:

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare

Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare

Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu ordered everyone to chant this Mantra in

order to escape from the sinful influence of this dark age of Kali.

Therefore all astrologers desiring to achieve success are also

advised to chant the Janaka Sadakshari and the Maha-Mantra on a

regiular basis, one or more malas every day.

In summary, the qualifications of an astrologer are as follows:

1. He has accepted and practiced regularly the Mantra received

from his

Guru.

2. He studies astrology under the guidance of his Guru.

3. He has thorough knowledge of the classical Jyotisha Hora

Sastras.

4. He has sufficient practice and experience in predictions.

5. He has good intuition, derived from a pure lifestyle and

spiritual practices.From Gauranga das web site

 

 

-- In vedic astrology, Praveen Kumar

<chunnu2001@v...> wrote:

> First, I don't consider myself competent enough to solve puzzles

like 'what happened with me' at a particular moment. However, I am

answering many queries wherein I venture giving some points about the

past / present without worrying for my going wrong. Rather, I always

try to learn by failed predictions. Shri K.N.Rao says,"Failed

predictions are your best Gurus".

>

> Secondly, I don't believe in mud slinging but was just making

cautious the innocent thousands here.

>

> Now, should you not advise the competent Gurus like Swee Chan to

demonstrate their superior astrological wisdom convincingly by

solving such puzzles ?

>

> Praveen Kumar (Mumbai)

> -

> Pradeep Gurav

> vedic astrology

> 04, 05, 2005 11:44 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: : puzzle:Answer:2nd

eventMISGUIDANCETOTHEGULLIBLE Open letter to Vijayadas Pradeep

>

>

> Praveen,

>

> Why dont you show your knowledge by trying any of these puzzles

> instead of just mud slingering and prove your metal(let gems for

> others)?

>

> Pradeep

>

> vedic astrology, Praveen Kumar

> <chunnu2001@v...> wrote:

> > I agree 100%. These incidents are framed for establishing

> themselves. Just imagine, why Swee Chan would reply to very

selected

> few and that too personally. I and many other SJC members of

Mumbai

> had seen her failing utterly to make out anything from horoscope

> correctly and just selling her gemstones making a big fortune

> thereby. A person failing badly and conclusively many times can't

> give only brilliant prediction to others. Combining it with the

fact

> that prediction is the most difficult part of astrology, these

> postings appear to be gimmicks only.

> >

> > Praveen Kumar (Mumbai)

> > -

> > kid kid

> > vedic astrology

> > Cc: vijayadas_pradeep

> > 04, 05, 2005 7:52 AM

> > [vedic astrology] : puzzle:Answer:2nd event

MISGUIDANCE

> TOTHEGULLIBLE Open letter to Vijayadas Pradeep

> >

> >

> > To Vijayadas,

> > I can't concur with the workings of Swee, since it is

> misleading.On 17 March, 2005, the Mars was in X to your ascendant

> (Aries)

> >

> > "a doing away (death)Moon is your 4th lord. It is in Nadhana

> (death), hence with the home front and achieving fortune in

> > foreign land (9th house indications)"

> > What is this all about ?From which ascendant she is making

all

> these deduction ?Natal or prasna ? How could the moon be in 8th &

9th

> at the same time ?

> >

> > "and Rahu, the 11th natal lord (gains) was transiting

> > on your ascendant, giving well being. Ketu is co-lord of

> > 8th (marriage)"

> > How could Rahu become your natal 11 nth lord ?

> > How could Kethu become the co-lord of 8th ?How is 8th house

> related to marriage ?

> > Taking into account the apparent contradictions in the so

called

> correct analysis of Swee & your immediate post ,congratulating

her,

> byepassing the obvious errors in her reply, I am inclined to

believe

> that this is a part of a fraudulent game deliberately

perpetuated by

> some vested interest, to belittle & humiliate, someone else in

this

> group & in the process ,misguiding innocent members .

> >

> > KID

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > Congratulations for Swee ji in pin pointing events.

> >

> > Best regds

> > Pradeep

> >

> > vedic astrology, pradeep gurav

> > <pp_gurav> wrote:

> > > Forwarding a private message:

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > Dear Swee ji,

> > > Wonderfull analysis.

> > >

> > > Using simple transit techniques. When time is not

> > > known, it is simpler

> > > To use 12:00 noon: Mars is your ascendant lord, It is

> > > in sAdhana

> > > (achievement).

> > > Pradeep-> That's right.

> > > Moon is your 4th lord. It is in Nadhana (death), hence

> > > a doing away

> > > (death) with the home front and achieving fortune in

> > > foreign land (9th house

> > > indications)

> > > Pradeep->Bull's eye. Lost my Indian nationality and

> > > received Dutch nationality. Wonderful. I do not know

> > > to see only such specific combination, does one need

> > > hardcore knowledge/experience or blessing of Ma

> > > Saraswati. I got a letter from Dutch Govt on this day

> > > confirming the above.

> > > and Rahu, the 11th natal lord (gains) was transiting

> > > on

> > > your ascendant, giving well being. Ketu is co-lord of

> > > 8th (marriage); it is

> > > in mitra. The other 3 planets of note are Sun (5th

> > > House); Venus (7th

> > > House) and Saturn (10th and 11th house). Therefore the

> > > event is pleasant after

> > > Much sorrow.

> > > Pradeep->I was waiting for this almost 1.5 years.

> > >

> > > Perhaps you received news of the "return" of your

> > > spouse and

> > > children.

> > > Pradeep-> This happened quite later on 1 April.

> > >

> > > I hope one day I will also get vision like yours.

> > > On the list, the same thing happened as was feared.

> > > The people not inline with SJC were prompt in giving

> > > their criticism

> > >

> > > Shata Pranam,

> > > Pradeep

> > > - Show quoted text -

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On 5/3/05, pradeep gurav < pp_gurav> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Note: forwarded message attached.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> > > protection around

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------

> > > > "Swee Chan" <swee@c... >

> > > > "'pradeep gurav'" <pp_gurav>

> > > > Mon, 2 May 2005 23:26:46 +0200

> > > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: puzzle, 2nd

> > > question-My Answer

> > > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > > >

> > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste

> > > >

> > > > Private message:

> > > > Using simple transit techniques. When time is not

> > > known, it is simpler to

> > > > use 12:00 noon: Mars is your ascendant lord, It is

> > > in sAdhana (achievement).

> > > > Moon is your 4th lord. It is in Nadhana (death),

> > > hence a doing away (death)

> > > > with the home front and achieving fortune in foreign

> > > land (9th house

> > > > indications) and Rahu, the 11th natal lord (gains)

> > > was transiting on your

> > > > ascendant, giving well being. Ketu is co-lord of 8th

> > > (marriage); it is in

> > > > mitra. The other 3 planets of note are Sun (5th

> > > House); Venus (7th House)

> > > > and Saturn (10th and 11th house). Therefore the

> > > event is pleasant after much

> > > > sorrow. Perhaps you received news of the "return"

> > > of your spouse and

> > > > children.

> > > >

> > > > Love,

> > > >

> > > > Swee

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf

> > > Of Pradeep Gurav

> > > > Monday, May 02, 2005 10:47 PM

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: puzzle, 2nd

> > > question-My Answer

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Raghunathaji,

> > > >

> > > > It wasn't the case. Any more takers for this event

> > > from the list?

> > > > You can take as much time as you want, to try this.

> > > Everybody knows

> > > > it is very difficult, as many areas of life operate

> > > simultaneously. I

> > > > remember I failed 3 times to one of your puzzles.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Raghunatha

> > > RaoNemani"

> > > > <raon1008> wrote:

> > > > > Om Krishna Guru

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Pradeep,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have already seen your chart for your second

> > > question and

> > > > > did not get a chance to write the detailed

> > > analysis yet.

> > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > ---------------------

> > > > > > > > Actually there is also another event

> > > happened on March

> > > > > > > > 17,2005. what was it? I dont remember the

> > > time

> > > > > > > > correctly.

> > > > > > > >

> > > ---------------------

> > > > >

> > > > > I am thinking on Mar 17th 2005, it was also an

> > > accident. Let me

> > > > know.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Raghunatha Rao

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