: puzzle:Answer:2nd event MISGUIDANCE TO THE GULLIBLE -BE VIGILANT MEMBERS !

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It seems some guy/s are all set to hijack this group.This is amply evident from

the manner in which one person by name vijayadas pradeep conducted a big

tamasha puzzle and the answer reportedly given by swee(a private message, in a

public quiz ??????), which the former endorses as accurate.I wrote a e-mail

expressing by genuine doubts about the contents of Swee's post to Mr vijayasdas

..The quizzer who is morally bound to give a reply had chosen to remain silent,

but pat comes the reply of a toady (perhaps it might be Mr vijayadas himself

masquerading under different screen names)of vijayadas.I deem it is imperative

on my part to answer some of pranesh joshie's queries and also to ask him some

questions.

Why can't Rahu and Ketu lord lord the 11th and 8th of a native?

Pray , enlighten me, in which standard text book of Jyotish did you find a

reference to lordship of nodes ?

And what fraud are you talking about?

 

Fraud ,by definition ,means any attempt to deceive others by concealing

material facts and providing false information, deliberately.This is the exact

thing that happened in puzzle-II of vijayadas.The astrological reasoning

supposed to have been given by Swee is nothing but a eyewash.It is neither

coherent nor cogent and even the planetary position from which she claims to

have elicited the exact event is quite untrue

..

And which 'innocent member'?

Quite a lot of people, like me, had became a member of this group to enrich our

knowledge in jyotish, especially from Narasimha and Sanjay,who have literally

contributed many things for fostering this divine science;and definitely not to

be taken for a ride by quite unknown tricky jealous impersonator and his

toadies

Got it ?

 

KID.

Pranesh Joshi <pranesh_joshi2003 > wrote:

Why can't Rahu and Ketu lord lord the 11th and 8th of a native?

And what fraud are you talking about? And which 'innocent member'?

Looks like they've let you out for good behavior but I'm afraid that now...

 

PJkid kid <astrokkid > wrote:

To Vijayadas,

I can't concur with the workings of Swee, since it is misleading.On 17 March,

2005, the Mars was in X to your ascendant(Aries)

"a doing away (death)Moon is your 4th lord. It is in Nadhana (death), hence

with the home front and achieving fortune in foreign land (9th house

indications)"

What is this all about ?From which ascendant she is making all these deduction

?Natal or prasna ? How could the moon be in 8th & 9th at the same time ?

"and Rahu, the 11th natal lord (gains) was transiting on your ascendant,

giving well being. Ketu is co-lord of 8th (marriage)"

How could Rahu become your natal 11 nth lord ?

How could Kethu become the co-lord of 8th ?How is 8th house related to marriage ?

Taking into account the apparent contradictions in the so called correct

analysis of Swee & your immediate post ,congratulating her, byepassing the

obvious errors in her reply, I am inclined to believe that this is a part of a

fraudulent game deliberately perpetuated by some vested interest, to belittle

& humiliate, someone else in this group & in the process ,misguiding innocent

members .

 

KID

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Hi kidy kid,

 

Way to go , the ratio of fake and fraud is higher

to truth and reality ....

 

Regards

Chandra Prakash

 

--- kid kid <astrokkid wrote:

 

> Hi groupies.

> It seems some guy/s are all set to hijack this

> group.This is amply evident from the manner in which

> one person by name vijayadas pradeep conducted a big

> tamasha puzzle and the answer reportedly given by

> swee(a private message, in a public quiz ??????),

> which the former endorses as accurate.I wrote a

> e-mail expressing by genuine doubts about the

> contents of Swee's post to Mr vijayasdas .The

> quizzer who is morally bound to give a reply had

> chosen to remain silent, but pat comes the reply of

> a toady (perhaps it might be Mr vijayadas himself

> masquerading under different screen names)of

> vijayadas.I deem it is imperative on my part to

> answer some of pranesh joshie's queries and also to

> ask him some questions.

> Why can't Rahu and Ketu lord lord the 11th and 8th

> of a native?

> Pray , enlighten me, in which standard text book of

> Jyotish did you find a reference to lordship of

> nodes ?

> And what fraud are you talking about?

>

> Fraud ,by definition ,means any attempt to deceive

> others by concealing material facts and providing

> false information, deliberately.This is the exact

> thing that happened in puzzle-II of vijayadas.The

> astrological reasoning supposed to have been given

> by Swee is nothing but a eyewash.It is neither

> coherent nor cogent and even the planetary position

> from which she claims to have elicited the exact

> event is quite untrue

> .

> And which 'innocent member'?

> Quite a lot of people, like me, had became a member

> of this group to enrich our knowledge in jyotish,

> especially from Narasimha and Sanjay,who have

> literally contributed many things for fostering this

> divine science;and definitely not to be taken for a

> ride by quite unknown tricky jealous impersonator

> and his toadies

> Got it ?

>

> KID.

>

> Pranesh Joshi <pranesh_joshi2003 wrote:

> Why can't Rahu and Ketu lord lord the 11th and 8th

> of a native?

> And what fraud are you talking about? And which

> 'innocent member'?

> Looks like they've let you out for good behavior but

> I'm afraid that now...

>

> PJ

>

> kid kid <astrokkid wrote:

> To Vijayadas,

> I can't concur with the workings of Swee, since it

> is misleading.On 17 March, 2005, the Mars was in X

> to your ascendant(Aries)

>

> "a doing away (death)Moon is your 4th lord. It is

> in Nadhana (death), hence with the home front and

> achieving fortune in

> foreign land (9th house indications)"

> What is this all about ?From which ascendant she is

> making all these deduction ?Natal or prasna ? How

> could the moon be in 8th & 9th at the same time ?

>

> "and Rahu, the 11th natal lord (gains) was

> transiting

> on your ascendant, giving well being. Ketu is

> co-lord of

> 8th (marriage)"

> How could Rahu become your natal 11 nth lord ?

> How could Kethu become the co-lord of 8th ?How is

> 8th house related to marriage ?

> Taking into account the apparent contradictions in

> the so called correct analysis of Swee & your

> immediate post ,congratulating her, byepassing the

> obvious errors in her reply, I am inclined to

> believe that this is a part of a fraudulent game

> deliberately perpetuated by some vested interest,

> to belittle & humiliate, someone else in this group

> & in the process ,misguiding innocent members .

>

> KID

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Hi groupies.

It seems some guy/s are all set to hijack this group.

 

Do stop projecting.

 

I deem it is imperative on my part to answer some of pranesh joshie's queries

and also to ask him some questions.

Why can't Rahu and Ketu lord lord the 11th and 8th of a native?

Pray , enlighten me, in which standard text book of Jyotish did you find a

reference to lordship of nodes ?

 

If you can't figure from BPHS, I can't make you either.

 

And what fraud are you talking about?

 

Fraud ,by definition ,means any attempt to deceive others by concealing

material facts and providing false information, deliberately.This is the exact

thing that happened in puzzle-II of vijayadas.The astrological reasoning

supposed to have been given by Swee is nothing but a eyewash.It is neither

coherent nor cogent and even the planetary position from which she claims to

have elicited the exact event is quite untrue

 

Sigh... another victim of the bounded mind.

 

And which 'innocent member'?

Quite a lot of people, like me, had became a member of this group to enrich our

knowledge in jyotish, especially from Narasimha and Sanjay,who have literally

contributed many things for fostering this divine science;and definitely not to

be taken for a ride by quite unknown tricky jealous impersonator and his

toadies

Got it ?

 

I hope your asylum uses GPS.

 

KID. (correction, CRETIN)

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Kid,

 

Most of the people use their real names on this list, which is true

for me, Sweeji, Sanjay Rathji, Narasimhaji and many others. I do not

need to hide my true identity. If someone wears a green glass,

everything looks green to him. But ofcourse there is freedom to

express opinions, like you expressed frauds, tamasha puzzle, or

doubting on screennames used etc. I respect Vijaysdas Pradeepji for

his opinions, though they could not convince me(if you go through the

archive, there is good debate on "Validity of usage of vargas").I am

sure he is also using his real name. So we are different and real

people.

 

About the puzzle, I was almost certain that probably nobody will

guess the event, but then suddenly I got the mail from Sweeji, I was

taken aback with the accuracy of the event, I could not resist so I

promptly posted it to this list. You should do some home work, when

there is time, go try to find the credentials of the people like Swee

ji, what are her achievements, her age, her profession etc. And also

do the same for other people. I consider myself follower of SJC

teachings, Raghunatah Rao ji is also respectable member of SJC.I have

great respect for Raghunatha Rao Nemaniji. I have collected his posts

for academic interests in astrology, though at a point I posted a

mail about the puzzle in which my interest was to rather make it more

honest. I hope you understand, there is no gain in misguiding the

list, why would one do that, what could be the motive? At least I

don't see it, probably your green glass sees it.

 

I still will not comment on Sweeji's analysis, as she sees more than

a beginner like me( I dont know about your status, probably you are

Jyotish Guru). Many people(I know there names too) on this list are

really wiser than me, I have done some home work on that front, they

never participate in this kind of mails, I also dont do that, but I

am dragged into this because of the puzzle I posted and the

controversy around it. People here are wise, and they know who is

who, and what is what. You need not take them granted for their

innocence and gullibility.

 

Pradeep

 

 

 

vedic astrology, kid kid <astrokkid>

wrote:

> Hi groupies.

> It seems some guy/s are all set to hijack this group.This is amply

evident from the manner in which one person by name vijayadas pradeep

conducted a big tamasha puzzle and the answer reportedly given by swee

(a private message, in a public quiz ??????), which the former

endorses as accurate.I wrote a e-mail expressing by genuine doubts

about the contents of Swee's post to Mr vijayasdas .The quizzer who

is morally bound to give a reply had chosen to remain silent, but

pat comes the reply of a toady (perhaps it might be Mr vijayadas

himself masquerading under different screen names)of vijayadas.I deem

it is imperative on my part to answer some of pranesh joshie's

queries and also to ask him some questions.

> Why can't Rahu and Ketu lord lord the 11th and 8th of a native?

> Pray , enlighten me, in which standard text book of Jyotish did

you find a reference to lordship of nodes ?

> And what fraud are you talking about?

>

> Fraud ,by definition ,means any attempt to deceive others by

concealing material facts and providing false information,

deliberately.This is the exact thing that happened in puzzle-II of

vijayadas.The astrological reasoning supposed to have been given by

Swee is nothing but a eyewash.It is neither coherent nor cogent and

even the planetary position from which she claims to have elicited

the exact event is quite untrue

> .

> And which 'innocent member'?

> Quite a lot of people, like me, had became a member of this group

to enrich our knowledge in jyotish, especially from Narasimha and

Sanjay,who have literally contributed many things for fostering this

divine science;and definitely not to be taken for a ride by quite

unknown tricky jealous impersonator and his toadies

> Got it ?

>

> KID.

>

> Pranesh Joshi <pranesh_joshi2003> wrote:

> Why can't Rahu and Ketu lord lord the 11th and 8th of a native?

> And what fraud are you talking about? And which 'innocent member'?

> Looks like they've let you out for good behavior but I'm afraid

that now...

>

> PJ

>

> kid kid <astrokkid> wrote:

> To Vijayadas,

> I can't concur with the workings of Swee, since it is

misleading.On 17 March, 2005, the Mars was in X to your ascendant

(Aries)

>

> "a doing away (death)Moon is your 4th lord. It is in Nadhana

(death), hence with the home front and achieving fortune in

> foreign land (9th house indications)"

> What is this all about ?From which ascendant she is making all

these deduction ?Natal or prasna ? How could the moon be in 8th & 9th

at the same time ?

>

> "and Rahu, the 11th natal lord (gains) was transiting

> on your ascendant, giving well being. Ketu is co-lord of

> 8th (marriage)"

> How could Rahu become your natal 11 nth lord ?

> How could Kethu become the co-lord of 8th ?How is 8th house

related to marriage ?

> Taking into account the apparent contradictions in the so called

correct analysis of Swee & your immediate post ,congratulating her,

byepassing the obvious errors in her reply, I am inclined to believe

that this is a part of a fraudulent game deliberately perpetuated by

some vested interest, to belittle & humiliate, someone else in this

group & in the process ,misguiding innocent members .

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Commenting on whether this whole puzzle was a fraud or not is beyond me and I

dont want to get into speculations like that. However Kid hit the nail right on

the head when he said that the analysis that everyone is crowing about as

'wonderful' was at the very least ,incoherent,illogical and totally

unconvincing.

 

Sorry for being blunt, but that analysis has absolutely no value from a learning standpoint.

 

Regards

Suresh

 

Pradeep Gurav <pp_gurav > wrote:

Kid,Most of the people use their real names on this list, which is true for me,

Sweeji, Sanjay Rathji, Narasimhaji and many others. I do not need to hide my

true identity. If someone wears a green glass, everything looks green to him.

But ofcourse there is freedom to express opinions, like you expressed frauds,

tamasha puzzle, or doubting on screennames used etc. I respect Vijaysdas

Pradeepji for his opinions, though they could not convince me(if you go through

the archive, there is good debate on "Validity of usage of vargas").I am sure he

is also using his real name. So we are different and real people.About the

puzzle, I was almost certain that probably nobody will guess the event, but

then suddenly I got the mail from Sweeji, I was taken aback with the accuracy

of the event, I could not resist so I promptly posted

it to this list. You should do some home work, when there is time, go try to

find the credentials of the people like Swee ji, what are her achievements, her

age, her profession etc. And also do the same for other people. I consider

myself follower of SJC teachings, Raghunatah Rao ji is also respectable member

of SJC.I have great respect for Raghunatha Rao Nemaniji. I have collected his

posts for academic interests in astrology, though at a point I posted a mail

about the puzzle in which my interest was to rather make it more honest. I hope

you understand, there is no gain in misguiding the list, why would one do that,

what could be the motive? At least I don't see it, probably your green glass

sees it.I still will not comment on Sweeji's analysis, as she sees more than a

beginner like me( I dont know about your status, probably you are Jyotish

Guru). Many people(I know there names too) on this list are really wiser

than me, I have done some home work on that front, they never participate in

this kind of mails, I also dont do that, but I am dragged into this because of

the puzzle I posted and the controversy around it. People here are wise, and

they know who is who, and what is what. You need not take them granted for

their innocence and gullibility.Pradeepvedic astrology,

kid kid <astrokkid> wrote:> Hi groupies.> It seems some guy/s are all set

to hijack this group.This is amply evident from the manner in which one person

by name vijayadas pradeep conducted a big tamasha puzzle and the answer

reportedly given by swee(a private message, in a public quiz ??????), which the

former endorses as accurate.I wrote a e-mail expressing by genuine doubts about

the contents of Swee's post to Mr vijayasdas .The quizzer who is morally bound

to give a reply had chosen to remain silent,

but pat comes the reply of a toady (perhaps it might be Mr vijayadas himself

masquerading under different screen names)of vijayadas.I deem it is imperative

on my part to answer some of pranesh joshie's queries and also to ask him some

questions.> Why can't Rahu and Ketu lord lord the 11th and 8th of a native?>

Pray , enlighten me, in which standard text book of Jyotish did you find a

reference to lordship of nodes ?> And what fraud are you talking about?> >

Fraud ,by definition ,means any attempt to deceive others by concealing

material facts and providing false information, deliberately.This is the exact

thing that happened in puzzle-II of vijayadas.The astrological reasoning

supposed to have been given by Swee is nothing but a eyewash.It is neither

coherent nor cogent and even the planetary position from which she claims to

have elicited the exact event is quite

untrue> .> And which 'innocent member'?> Quite a lot of people, like me, had

became a member of this group to enrich our knowledge in jyotish, especially

from Narasimha and Sanjay,who have literally contributed many things for

fostering this divine science;and definitely not to be taken for a ride by

quite unknown tricky jealous impersonator and his toadies> Got it ?> > KID.>

> Pranesh Joshi <pranesh_joshi2003> wrote:> Why can't Rahu and Ketu lord

lord the 11th and 8th of a native?> And what fraud are you talking about? And

which 'innocent member'?> Looks like they've let you out for good behavior but

I'm afraid that now...> > PJ> > kid kid <astrokkid> wrote:> To

Vijayadas,> I can't concur with the workings of Swee, since it is misleading.On

17 March, 2005, the Mars was in X to your

ascendant(Aries)> > "a doing away (death)Moon is your 4th lord. It is in

Nadhana (death), hence with the home front and achieving fortune in> foreign

land (9th house indications)"> What is this all about ?From which ascendant she

is making all these deduction ?Natal or prasna ? How could the moon be in 8th &

9th at the same time ?> > "and Rahu, the 11th natal lord (gains) was

transiting> on your ascendant, giving well being. Ketu is co-lord of> 8th

(marriage)"> How could Rahu become your natal 11 nth lord ?> How could Kethu

become the co-lord of 8th ?How is 8th house related to marriage ?> Taking into

account the apparent contradictions in the so called correct analysis of Swee &

your immediate post ,congratulating her, byepassing the obvious errors in her

reply, I am inclined to believe that this is a part of a

fraudulent game deliberately perpetuated by some vested interest, to belittle

& humiliate, someone else in this group & in the process ,misguiding innocent

members .> > KID> > > Do You

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