How to determine Atma karaka if between 30 and 1 degree?

May 3, 2005

Respected Gurujis,

Last week, my brother had bought a CD of Horoscope

analysis (think it was by BV Raman, dont remember exactly). When I

entered my birth time in it and checked the planetary positions it

was found that Mercury and Jupiter has jumped one sign ahead from the

positions actually present in my horoscope. (My DOB: 01/10/1975, TOB:

11.41 pm) In Jagannath Hora which I downloaded from the site showed

Mercury as Atma karaka and Jupiter as Amatya karaka. And I was

relying the predictions based on that. But in the software my brother

bought Mercury is in 1 degree some minutes(in my actual horoscope it

was 29 degree 32 minutes 03 secs). And I found that no Bhadra yoga

was there due to jumping of one sign. My lagna is Gemini. Which

should I believe? If this happens (jumping of signs) I see that I

miss many of the important yogas that were actually present in my

horoscope. My brother who always criticise my belief in astrology,

asked me " see this is the case. How can u rely upon such a science

if same biirth time shows different planetary positions?" I want to

give him a correct answer. How can I determine the actual position of

planets? Scholars please help me.

Regards,

Jyothi.

May 3, 2005

It often happens to persons having planets at cusp (eg. 1 deg of Gemini or

29 deg of Taurus). Their planets jump to next/previous house if chart are made

by using different anyamasa. If CD your brother brought, having default Raman

anyamas (DR. B.V. Raman) is used and compared with Jhora default Lahiri

anyamsa (which is 1 deg 27 min greater than Raman anyamsa) you obiously get

jumping of planets. Tell your brother even the pathological test of same blood

sample in two different labs are sometime have different values of blood

ingredients, which is due to personal, technical error of the lab concerned.

Bur it does not make one to conclude that pathology is not a science. I hope

using different anayamnsa one may gfet jupming of planets and also the shifts

in dasa/antardasa/pratyantar dasas as well.

with best wishes,

regards

shy

jyothi_lakshmi_b <jyothi_lakshmi_b (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Respected Gurujis, Last week, my brother had bought a CD of Horoscope

analysis (think it was by BV Raman, dont remember exactly). When I entered my

birth time in it and checked the planetary positions it was found that Mercury

and Jupiter has jumped one sign ahead from the positions actually present in my

horoscope. (My DOB: 01/10/1975, TOB: 11.41 pm) In Jagannath Hora which I

downloaded from the site showed Mercury as Atma karaka and Jupiter as Amatya

karaka. And I was relying the predictions based on that. But in the software my

brother bought Mercury is in 1 degree some minutes(in my actual horoscope it was

29 degree 32 minutes 03 secs). And I found that no Bhadra yoga was there due to

jumping of one sign. My lagna is Gemini. Which should I believe? If this

happens

(jumping of signs) I see that I miss many of the important yogas that were

actually present in my horoscope. My brother who always criticise my belief in

astrology, asked me " see this is the case. How can u rely upon such a science

if same biirth time shows different planetary positions?" I want to give him a

correct answer. How can I determine the actual position of planets? Scholars

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Dear Shyamji and Jyoti,

Namaskar,

The problem you have described , is the same case with

me. Some software shows my lagna as taurus and some

show it as mesh lagna.But i have confirmed it to

mesh lagna by using nadi joshiyam.

Regards

Chandra Prakash

--- shyam murti gupta <smurti_gupta wrote:

> Hi Jyoti,

> It often happens to persons having planets at

> cusp (eg. 1 deg of Gemini or 29 deg of Taurus).

> Their planets jump to next/previous house if chart

> are made by using different anyamasa. If CD your

> brother brought, having default Raman anyamas (DR.

> B.V. Raman) is used and compared with Jhora default

> Lahiri anyamsa (which is 1 deg 27 min greater than

> Raman anyamsa) you obiously get jumping of planets.

> Tell your brother even the pathological test of same

> blood sample in two different labs are sometime have

> different values of blood ingredients, which is due

> to personal, technical error of the lab concerned.

> Bur it does not make one to conclude that pathology

> is not a science. I hope using different anayamnsa

> one may gfet jupming of planets and also the shifts

> in dasa/antardasa/pratyantar dasas as well.

> with best wishes,

> regards

> shy

>

> jyothi_lakshmi_b <jyothi_lakshmi_b

> wrote:

> Respected Gurujis,

>

> Last week, my brother had bought a CD of

> Horoscope

> analysis (think it was by BV Raman, dont remember

> exactly). When I

> entered my birth time in it and checked the

> planetary positions it

> was found that Mercury and Jupiter has jumped one

> sign ahead from the

> positions actually present in my horoscope. (My DOB:

> 01/10/1975, TOB:

> 11.41 pm) In Jagannath Hora which I downloaded from

> the site showed

> Mercury as Atma karaka and Jupiter as Amatya karaka.

> And I was

> relying the predictions based on that. But in the

> software my brother

> bought Mercury is in 1 degree some minutes(in my

> actual horoscope it

> was 29 degree 32 minutes 03 secs). And I found that

> no Bhadra yoga

> was there due to jumping of one sign. My lagna is

> Gemini. Which

> should I believe? If this happens (jumping of signs)

> I see that I

> miss many of the important yogas that were actually

> present in my

> horoscope. My brother who always criticise my

> belief in astrology,

> asked me " see this is the case. How can u rely upon

> such a science

> if same biirth time shows different planetary

> positions?" I want to

> give him a correct answer. How can I determine the

> actual position of

> planets? Scholars please help me.

>

> Regards,

> Jyothi.

>

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May 4, 2005

If the ayanamsa and coordinates are the same, theoretically, all software worth

their salt should give the same lagna and planetary positions. The algorithm is

stellar, but not rocket science

Regarding the 'scientific' nature of things, I was reminded of a case when a

friend of mine had seen two gynecologists when pregnant, and both got the

gender differently following an ultrasound scan. Either the machine's imagery

was wrong, or the doctor's mental imagery.

If I was you, I would change the brother instead of the software.

Take it easy,

PJ