Delay or denial of marriage?-applause to jagannathan Sir

April 26, 2005

Thanxs and regards

Richa"V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu > wrote:

Dear ListmembersDo you know how old jagannathan Sir is? I know him personally.

Despite his advanced age he calls everyone by Sir. There is a lot to learn from

Shri Jagannathan in the way we behave on our groups. He is analysing so many

charts. hats off for him.And there are guys here who dont have basic internet

manners to address people by name and even sign their names. And talk of Phds

and nonsense.best wishesparthavedic astrology,

kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr> wrote:> Dear Sir,> I will

certainly do my best.> Regards,jagannathan.> > itsmekk2 <itsmekk2> wrote:>

> > Dear Sir,> > Your following marriage analysis is wonderful. If its not much

trouble> for you, Can you please look at my

chart from marriage perspective?> > DOB : 22nd Feb 1975> TOB : 23.20PM> Place :

Kalyan (19N12, 73E06)> > Thanks,> - Kaushik.> > --- In

vedic astrology, kapisthalam jagannathan> wrote:> > Dear Sir,>

> I gather from your words ,more than Astrology,that you are a person> of love

and pragmatic thinking in life.i am happy to read your kind mail.> > Regards,>

> jagannathan.> > > > Utpal Pathak wrote:> > Jai Shri Krishna Jagannathan

Garu,> > > > you have presented a fabulous analysis. it'll be really of good>

academic interest. I have tried to give few explanations for it as per> my

understandings and we'll close it here otherwise you know that it> will not

remain only of academic interest.> > > > yours> > > > utpal pathak> >

kapisthalam jagannathan wrote:> > Dear Sir,> > May I also add?.Sri.Utpalji, and

Sri. Asishji have done good work on> your chart and their findings are

thorough.going ones.> > The seventh lord Mars is placed in the eigth and the

eigth lord,> Jupiter, is debilitated.Mars is with his enemy Rahu.As Sri

Pathakji> has rightly said Saturn aspects the seventh house.Ketu aspects Mars>

and Rahu.> > Debilitated Jupiter is placed in the seventh from Moon>

sign.Debilitated Jupiter aspects the seventh lord Saturn.> > saturn is the lord

of the eigth too.?> > > > * There is no benefic aspect either on the seventh

lord or the> seventh counted from Moon sign.The sixth lord Jupiter is in the>

seventh in a debilitated condition,.leave alone cancellation of the> debility

of Jupiter.*> > [> > agreed that there is no benefic aspect on 7th lord from

moon at

the> asme time the lord doesn't have any malefic aggreaviating aspects also>

from Rahu or Mars or Sun. Jupiter is also lord of 9th house which i> suppose

will be more dominating and helps when placed in 7th from moon> > ]> > > >

Debilitated Jupiter aspects(Graha Drishti) the second from> UL.Mercury who is

the lord of the second from UL is retrograde towards> debilitated Jupiter.Does

this count as a point.?> > > > There is no benefic aspect either on the seventh

lord ,Mars, from> lagnam or the seventh house from lagnam.The seventh house

which is> Vrischikam itself is a malefic sign.?> > [> > I am considering Saturn

as a Yogkarka and it's aspect on 7th may not> be considered as very bad.

whatever adverse result he could give by> natural Malefic nature, it has given

it by delaying the merriage> ceremony. > > ]>

> > > Mars in the eigth house amounts to the existence of the famous Kuja>

Dosham ,though the dosham is said to be nullified at Dhanus which> happens to

be the eigth house.in this case.?As Jupiter is> debilitated, we cant be sure of

taking the eigth house dosham of Mars> at Dhanus as a case of exception.?> > [>

> 'Kuja Dosham' explanations are various & curious. i have generally> ignored

it from my analysis because as you have rightly mentioned> about placement in

Dhanu rashi. but my main view point of ignoring it> was the fact that it is

well paced from Moon & Karka Venus.> > ]> > > > > > Added to all the above,

Rahu is retrograde towards Vrischikam.which> not onl;y happens to be the

seventh house but also the sign of> debilitation for Rahu.> > The

Badhakadhipathy Moon from Scorpio ie for the seventh house is

in> the third house from lagnam.> > [i didn't understand retorgrade Rahu towards

Vrischikam and happens> to be in 7th. i haven't use this technic and hence can

not comment]> > > > > > Mars is the twelfth lord also.?> > So, many hurdles

seem to torment the sventh bhavam.There appears to> be one "Margam" and that is

to resort to performing "Shanthi Pariharam".> > Coming to the other encouraging

forces in respect of the seventh> bhavam they are as follows.> > Mercury who is

the eigth lord from the seventh house is placed in> the tenth house.The Kalatra

Karaka Venus is in the tenth house.Sun,> who is the seventh lord from Venus is

situated in the eleventh> house.Sun who is the tenth lord from the seventh

house is in the> eleventh house which is the strongest Upachayam and a friendly

sign.> > Kuja dosham is a case of exception.here.It may

also work as a case> of exception..?Saturn who aspects the seventh house has

undergone> Parivartanam with venus who is a first rate benefic.Jupiters aspect

on> Saturn is from the nineth house.Mars and Rahu are not in "Gandantham".> > >

> So, under such circumstances ,married life , may not be wholly> smooth without

ups and downs.?isnt it so.?Conjugal bliss may not be> had to the point of

satisfaction.?> > [ Jaggannath Garu, whose married life is without Ups & Downs

:-)> Rare are those fortunate ones, who can say that married life is full> of

roses> > ]> > > > These are only general indications.and therefore however it

will be> hasty and unsafe to jump to the conclusion that this native here,>

also, will suffer.in a like wise fashion.> > The eleventh lord who has to cause

second or subsequent marriages is> in debility.The

eigth lord Saturn is in the elventh from Moon sign.> > Though indications for a

second marriage to take place are not> totally convincing,( the second from UL

is seemingly threatening,> isnt it so,?.)the natives of such

circumstances,also, can restrain> himself or herself,.from getting involved

into extramarital> attractions( as Kalatra Karaka is strong) which may visit>

inadvertantly and frequently.> > > > [ I have not seen 2nd marriage becuase

that will not be a good omen> to start with when the native is due for 1st

marriage. and to the> matter of fact i don't see the indication of more than 1

marriage is> becuse of the following > > - Venus is not in Dwiswabhava Rashi

and not afflicted> > - 7th is looked by yog karka venus> > - Ju is 7th from

moon> > - most importantly niether of the 7th house & 7th lord from lagna &>

moon nor venus

are in paap kartari yoga> > ]> > [> > UL is aspected by Ju & 7th from UL has

Venus & Mercury. i considered> it as a fairly counter balancing factors> > ]> >

> > However it is my strong belief that if required Shanti Pariharam is> done it

will surely counter act and avert such sorts of things.A> capable astrologer has

to be consulted for final opinion regarding the> above discussions pertaining to

the seventh bhavam and to perform> remedies.> > > > In such cases in general

,marriage with a person of some other> religion or subcaste ,perhaps, cant be

ruled out from taking place.,> to be on the safer side.A remote possibility

vaguely exists.?What is> your opinion please.This is only a remotest

possibility.We are not at> libert to jump to conclusions.?> > For the purposes

of Academic discussions such points too

have to be> looked into.?> > This native is running his/her Seven and half year

Shanis period.So> it will be better on his or her part to light a lamp of

Mustard oil> for Shani Bhagavan and to perform Archan in favour of the name>

,nakshatram and Gothram of the native to the principal diety of the> etmple on

saturdays for at least a few weeks to come.> > venus dasa will be running till

5-7-2020.venus is quite strong as> the Kalatra Karaka.So, the situation is not

likely to be bad.> > I have entertained the above discussion only out of

Academic> interest and to share my views with Sri.Pathakji and Sri.Ashisji and>

friends.> > I hope that you will excuse me if my discussion is not really>

useful,and is defective.> > [> > Other things are in full agreement. i have

tried to provided you my> viewpoint and not presented any arguments for the

sake of

it. > > ]> > > > [it was great experience writing to you & having your indepth>

analysis. believe me, i mean it. accept my regards]> > > > > > Regards,> >

Jagannathan.> > > > > > ennaye wrote:> > > > > > -dear Utpalji,> > Thanks very

much for the clear cut analysis. I appreciate how well > > you have delineated

the effects of the placements.> > Regards,> > ennaye> > -- In

vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >

Dear Ennaye,> > > > > > It seems that he will have marriage with the consent of

Parents > > i.e > > > Arrange marriage is likely. Though Mars is with rahu in

8th tend > > to > > > show the marriage with different society or

love marriage (!) as > > we > > > call it but fact that Mars & Rahu both are in

Ju sign & ju is in > > 9th > > > having neechbhanga and also placed 7th from

Moon. Lagnesh Venus > > and > > > 5th lord Mercury is not afflicted by Rahu or

Mars.> > > > > > the above can show that his marraige will be a arranged one &

> > > considering AL & UL in same rashi and lord is in 11th with no > > >

afflicting planetory aspect and good position of Merc & venus, > > Lord > > >

of AL & A7 having well placed w.r.t each other and other thing i > > gave > > >

in my analysis shows that marriage will be a happy & normal one.> > > > > >

regards> > > > > > pathak> > > vedic astrology, "ennaye"

> >

wrote:> > > > > > > > -Dear Utpal ji,> > > > Thanks a lot for your analysis.> >

> > He is presently in USA. So do you think it will be an arranged> > > >

marriage or otherwise?> > > > Is it possible to know what would the marriage

partner be like? > > And> > > > will he have a happy married life?> > > >

Thanks once again,> > > > regards> > > > ennaye> > > > -- In

vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"> > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >

> Dear Anney,> > > > > > > > > > I apologise for the mistake i did in puting

the chart data. I > > had > > > > > taken 25 th march instead of 15th march.> >

> > > > > > > > now correcting it i give

following analysis.> > > > > > > > > > Coincidentally, in this horoscope, Mars

the 7th lord is in 8th > > > with > > > > > Debiliated Rahu. and 7th is

aspected by Saturn. much > > affliction > > > is > > > > > there in D9 Chart as

7th lord is in 8th apected by Saturn. 7th > > > has > > > > > ketu and Mars

aspects it from 4th.> > > > > > > > > > but in both the chart rasi & d9,

Mercury & venus are very well > > > placed > > > > > hence it does not indicate

denial of marriage.> > > > > > > > > > Saturn effect on 7th house and 7th lord

in 8th (d1 & d9) seems > > to > > > be > > > > > reasons for delay.> > > > > >

> > > > Mars

Antardasha is Starting from June 2006 to sept 2007 and at > > > the > > > > >

same time transit ju aspects natal venus. hence the above time > > > can > > >

> > bring about the marriage of the native. most likely is july to > > > oct >

> > > > 2006.> > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > pathak> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > >

> > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > ashish,> > > > > > > > > > > > you are right,

I am wrong. I have mistakenly taken 25th > > march > > > > > instead > > > > > >

of 15th march> > > > >

> > > > > > > i will rconsider the analysis with the above> > > > > > > > > > >

> thanks for your point out> > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > >

> > pathak> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology,

"matri51" > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pathakji,> >

> > > > > I am a student of astrology, and a bit confused with the > > data.> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I used 'jagannath hora lite' to create kudli with > >

following > > > detail> > > > > > > > > > > > > > d.o.b 15 March 1973>

> > > > > > t.o.b 11-15 a.m.> > > > > > > p.o.b Yamunanagar, India (77E17,

30N06)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sofwaare gave me Vrashab lagna where 7th lord

is mars and > > is > > > in > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > house along with Rahu.>

> > > > > > In navmansha kundli(Kanya lagna), 7th lord jupitar is in > > 8th >

> > > > house. > > > > > > > ketu is also in 7th.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I

believe, i am using the wrong data. Please let me know > > what > > > is > > >

> > > the > > > > > > > correct lagan and navmansha lagna ? > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > Thanks,>

> > > > > > Ashish> > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal

Pathak > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > correction> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > SUMMERISING THE ABOVE, It can be concluded that it is a > > > DELAY > > >

> > > > > case but definately not a DENIAL one.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > utpal pathak wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear ennaye,> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th is

occupied by debiliated Rahu & 7th lord is > > debiliated

> > > in > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > with worst malefic of the chart i.e

Mars. 7th from moon > > is > > > > > > > afflicted > > > > > > > > by placement

af saturn but has a digbala from moon > > > sign.moon > > > > > > itself > > > >

> > > > being the 2nd lord is debiliated in 6th.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

in Navmansha 7th lord mercury is with Lagnesh guru well > > > placed > > > > >

in > > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > but aspected by saturn from 8th. Though

venus is exalted > > in > > > > > Rashi > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > well

placed in 10th but

debiliated in D9 with nodes.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > venus is creating

Malavya yog and getting Neechbhanga in > > > > > > D9.Lagnesh > > > > > > > >

Mercury is well placed in 9th. Jupiter though debiliated > > > also > > > > > >

gets > > > > > > > > neechbhanga. In d9 lagna & 7th lord is well placed.> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > SUMMERISING THE ABOVE, It can be concluded that it is >

> not a > > > > > DELAY > > > > > > > > case but definately not a DENIAL one.> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that marriage of the native is likely to

happen > > in > > > > > > second > > > >

> > > > part of 2006 or early 2007.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best

regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal Pathak> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > vedic astrology, "ennaye" > > > > > > > > > > wrote:>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Yamunnagar is at 77E17, 30N06.> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > - In vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"> > >

> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pl. provide the

nearest Prominent city close to > > > Yamunanagar> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pathak> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

vedic astrology, "ennaye" > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -What a scatter brain I am!!

Sorry for forgetting > > the > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > data.> > > > > > >

> > > > His > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > d.o.b 15 March 1973> > > > > > > > > > > t.o.b 11-15 a.m.> > > > > > >

> > > > p.o.b Yamunanagar, India.> > > > > > > > > > > Please do have a look at

his chart, I am grateful.> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > >

ennaye> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In

vedic astrology, Utpal > > Pathak > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:>

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ennaye,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> namaste,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > where is the birth data> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > pathak> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ennaye wrote:> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned Group members,> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > I have been reading the posts regarding > > astrology > > > and > > > >

> am > > > > > > > > highly > > > > > > > > > > >

> appreciative of the deep interest and knowledge > > of > > > the > > > > > > >

> members.> > > > > > > > > > > > I have a request: could you please have a look

> > at > > > the > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > the >

> > > > > > > > > > > person given below?> > > > > > > > > > > > This young man

is my friends' son and she is > > very > > > much > > > > > > > > worried > > >

> > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > his marriage. It seems to be

getting delayed for > > > some > > > > > > > reason >

> > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > other. > > > > > > > > > > > > Carrer

wise he is very well settled and is a > > very > > > sober > > > > > > > > > >

> goodlooking, > > > > > > > > > > > > intelligent and highly placed young

man.> > > > > > > > > > > > My request is could you study his chart and > >

analyse > > > the > > > > > > > > reasons > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > >

> > > > > > delay , when is marriage likely to take place > > and > > > is it >

> > > > a > > > > > > > > case of > > > > > > > > > > >

> denial of marriage?> > > > > > > > > > > > Your replies are being eagerl

awaited.> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you for it.> > > > > > > > > > > >

Regards, ennaye> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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April 26, 2005

Sri Jagannathan Garu seems to be literely giving the message not to indulge in

mudslinging , unncessesary criticism & insulting, cultivate the humility and

believe that GOD can come to you in any form, any time..

I have learnt a very good lesson today.

regards,

Utpal Pathak "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu > wrote: