Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 Namaste Praveen, I was going thru the archives and found some messages written by a person named Praveen. Are you the same Praveen of the following messages or some one else as the id is different. If you are the same Praveen, then you must have been learning/learnt a lot from Gurus and learned members from this list since Oct 2002. So may I ask to please share with me all your collection of the articles which you got from Gurus of this list. I am asking this because, does not store any of the attachements any more from the previous messages and you are lucky to have them earlier. vedic astrology/message/18535vedic astrology/message/18848vedic astrology/message/19050 Thanks for your help in advance. RegardsRaghunatha RaoDo You ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 This is an excellent suggestioin. For those of us who have come to the group recently, this wealth of information would help a lot. I am in the same predicament as could not download the articles from the Group's file section. Regards Vipin MehtaRao Nemani <raon1008 > wrote: Om Krishna Guru Namaste Praveen, I was going thru the archives and found some messages written by a person named Praveen. Are you the same Praveen of the following messages or some one else as the id is different. If you are the same Praveen, then you must have been learning/learnt a lot from Gurus and learned members from this list since Oct 2002. So may I ask to please share with me all your collection of the articles which you got from Gurus of this list. I am asking this because, does not store any of the attachements any more from the previous messages and you are lucky to have them earlier. vedic astrology/message/18535vedic astrology/message/18848vedic astrology/message/19050 Thanks for your help in advance. RegardsRaghunatha Rao Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Dear Nemani, Yes, I am the same Praveen Kumar. It was when I had just joined the group. These messages show that I was not sceptic initially, had faith in superior knowledge of the so called Gurus and expected to learn from them. Before that, I had seen only Shri K.N.Rao, had a very good impression and expected the same here too. I read COVA by Sanjay Rath and Vedic Astrology by Narasimha. In these books, I found many new things specially D-charts, special lagnas, many dasas etc. For me that was a good introduction with hitherto unknown areas in astrology. However, I never got any convincing proof of their predictive competence. Then I met Sanjay Rath when he came to Mumbai. During his stay (I think a few days), he couldn't impress me. Rather, he failed miserably to read my mother's chart. He started appreciating combinations in her chart and gave a rosy picture while she is 100% paralysed (confined to bed), had hand to mouth status and experienced unhappiness on all fronts excluding children. Moreover, on my revealing the facts, he had justified the same with the same chart. During his visit, mostly I saw him giving remedies, talking about unverifiable future or giving theoretical discourses. He could speak Sanskrit but couldn't convince me regarding his predictive caliber. Then, in course of time, I heard a lot other disgusting things about him. Then came the issues raised by Guru Gauranga Das who was expelled from SJVC for speaking against Sanjay Rath. You must be aware of the open letter sent to the list by Guru Gauranga Das. Every sane brain was apprehensive as there is no smoke without fire. Then I met Swee Chan, another Guru. She came to Mumbai. All SJVC members here had a most disappointing experience with her predictive abilities. She was interested in selling her gemstones only. She also eluded to give predictions and said that, "first you tell me your observations, then I will guide you". Thus, I failed to see usefulness of the concepts taught here, neither even the so called Gurus could prove it. I concluded that even I was better than these so called masters and there was no need to follow them. Besides, some illustrious astrologers of BVB Delhi straightaway disapproved the concepts propagated here as quite misleading. Hence, I had joined to learn something meaningful, but couldn't. I got nothing from the so called Gurus except what is available in Achieves itself. But, I am here to learn from practical experience and try to dispel the gloom encircling the world of astrology. However, it should not be mistaken as adamant or prejudicial behaviour on my part. I still have respects for genuine persons like Narasimha whom I consider honest and a true seeker though trapped in a wrong place. But, then, it is his destiny. Praveen Kumar (Mumbai) - Rao Nemani Vedic Astrology Group 24, 04, 2005 7:21 AM [vedic astrology] Request to you Praveen Om Krishna Guru Namaste Praveen, I was going thru the archives and found some messages written by a person named Praveen. Are you the same Praveen of the following messages or some one else as the id is different. If you are the same Praveen, then you must have been learning/learnt a lot from Gurus and learned members from this list since Oct 2002. So may I ask to please share with me all your collection of the articles which you got from Gurus of this list. I am asking this because, does not store any of the attachements any more from the previous messages and you are lucky to have them earlier. vedic astrology/message/18535vedic astrology/message/18848vedic astrology/message/19050 Thanks for your help in advance. RegardsRaghunatha Rao Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Dear All, What Mr. Praveen has mentioned is quite a matter of fact sharing of experiences. When rather than your astrological knowledge, you try to create a "aura" or a hype about you and make tall claims about you and the hidden agenda is to make money quickly or to sell something , such things happen. But Mr. Praveen , you may have other good experiences also. There are many who do not charge , never claim they belong to some big house or group or ideology or never claim 100 % accuracy for their predictions. Are quite practical about limitations of astrology and most importantly do not have any hidden agenda. So they are quite different than all these egoistic people , who write sarcastic emails , try to use jargons of words - only problem is u should be able to find such people as they are normally reluctant for publicity. I hope u understand. Regards, Anil - Praveen Kumar vedic astrology Sunday, April 24, 2005 12:13 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Request to you Praveen Dear Nemani, Yes, I am the same Praveen Kumar. It was when I had just joined the group. These messages show that I was not sceptic initially, had faith in superior knowledge of the so called Gurus and expected to learn from them. Before that, I had seen only Shri K.N.Rao, had a very good impression and expected the same here too. I read COVA by Sanjay Rath and Vedic Astrology by Narasimha. In these books, I found many new things specially D-charts, special lagnas, many dasas etc. For me that was a good introduction with hitherto unknown areas in astrology. However, I never got any convincing proof of their predictive competence. Then I met Sanjay Rath when he came to Mumbai. During his stay (I think a few days), he couldn't impress me. Rather, he failed miserably to read my mother's chart. He started appreciating combinations in her chart and gave a rosy picture while she is 100% paralysed (confined to bed), had hand to mouth status and experienced unhappiness on all fronts excluding children. Moreover, on my revealing the facts, he had justified the same with the same chart. During his visit, mostly I saw him giving remedies, talking about unverifiable future or giving theoretical discourses. He could speak Sanskrit but couldn't convince me regarding his predictive caliber. Then, in course of time, I heard a lot other disgusting things about him. Then came the issues raised by Guru Gauranga Das who was expelled from SJVC for speaking against Sanjay Rath. You must be aware of the open letter sent to the list by Guru Gauranga Das. Every sane brain was apprehensive as there is no smoke without fire. Then I met Swee Chan, another Guru. She came to Mumbai. All SJVC members here had a most disappointing experience with her predictive abilities. She was interested in selling her gemstones only. She also eluded to give predictions and said that, "first you tell me your observations, then I will guide you". Thus, I failed to see usefulness of the concepts taught here, neither even the so called Gurus could prove it. I concluded that even I was better than these so called masters and there was no need to follow them. Besides, some illustrious astrologers of BVB Delhi straightaway disapproved the concepts propagated here as quite misleading. Hence, I had joined to learn something meaningful, but couldn't. I got nothing from the so called Gurus except what is available in Achieves itself. But, I am here to learn from practical experience and try to dispel the gloom encircling the world of astrology. However, it should not be mistaken as adamant or prejudicial behaviour on my part. I still have respects for genuine persons like Narasimha whom I consider honest and a true seeker though trapped in a wrong place. But, then, it is his destiny. Praveen Kumar (Mumbai) - Rao Nemani Vedic Astrology Group 24, 04, 2005 7:21 AM [vedic astrology] Request to you Praveen Om Krishna Guru Namaste Praveen, I was going thru the archives and found some messages written by a person named Praveen. Are you the same Praveen of the following messages or some one else as the id is different. If you are the same Praveen, then you must have been learning/learnt a lot from Gurus and learned members from this list since Oct 2002. So may I ask to please share with me all your collection of the articles which you got from Gurus of this list. I am asking this because, does not store any of the attachements any more from the previous messages and you are lucky to have them earlier. vedic astrology/message/18535vedic astrology/message/18848vedic astrology/message/19050 Thanks for your help in advance. RegardsRaghunatha Rao Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Dear Anil VSNL, I am sorry to say that the mail you wrote shows your own "Hypocretic' behaviour. you only suggested yesterday that this is learning site and don't indulge in to unhealthy arguments and wrote a long mail suggesting so many things. and complying & respecting your & Imraan's mail, I pulled out from the arguments hope you too understand pathak vedic astrology, Anil VSNL <gogatea@v...> wrote: > Dear All, > > What Mr. Praveen has mentioned is quite a matter of fact sharing of experiences. When rather than your astrological knowledge, you try to create a "aura" or a hype about you and make tall claims about you and the hidden agenda is to make money quickly or to sell something , such things happen. > > But Mr. Praveen , you may have other good experiences also. There are many who do not charge , never claim they belong to some big house or group or ideology or never claim 100 % accuracy for their predictions. Are quite practical about limitations of astrology and most importantly do not have any hidden agenda. > > So they are quite different than all these egoistic people , who write sarcastic emails , try to use jargons of words - only problem is u should be able to find such people as they are normally reluctant for publicity. > > I hope u understand. > > Regards, > > Anil > - > Praveen Kumar > vedic astrology > Sunday, April 24, 2005 12:13 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Request to you Praveen > > > Dear Nemani, > Yes, I am the same Praveen Kumar. It was when I had just joined the group. These messages show that I was not sceptic initially, had faith in superior knowledge of the so called Gurus and expected to learn from them. Before that, I had seen only Shri K.N.Rao, had a very good impression and expected the same here too. I read COVA by Sanjay Rath and Vedic Astrology by Narasimha. In these books, I found many new things specially D-charts, special lagnas, many dasas etc. For me that was a good introduction with hitherto unknown areas in astrology. > > However, I never got any convincing proof of their predictive competence. Then I met Sanjay Rath when he came to Mumbai. During his stay (I think a few days), he couldn't impress me. Rather, he failed miserably to read my mother's chart. He started appreciating combinations in her chart and gave a rosy picture while she is 100% paralysed (confined to bed), had hand to mouth status and experienced unhappiness on all fronts excluding children. Moreover, on my revealing the facts, he had justified the same with the same chart. During his visit, mostly I saw him giving remedies, talking about unverifiable future or giving theoretical discourses. He could speak Sanskrit but couldn't convince me regarding his predictive caliber. Then, in course of time, I heard a lot other disgusting things about him. Then came the issues raised by Guru Gauranga Das who was expelled from SJVC for speaking against Sanjay Rath. You must be aware of the open letter sent to the list by Guru Gauranga Das. Every sane brain was apprehensive as there is no smoke without fire. > > Then I met Swee Chan, another Guru. She came to Mumbai. All SJVC members here had a most disappointing experience with her predictive abilities. She was interested in selling her gemstones only. She also eluded to give predictions and said that, "first you tell me your observations, then I will guide you". > > Thus, I failed to see usefulness of the concepts taught here, neither even the so called Gurus could prove it. I concluded that even I was better than these so called masters and there was no need to follow them. Besides, some illustrious astrologers of BVB Delhi straightaway disapproved the concepts propagated here as quite misleading. Hence, I had joined to learn something meaningful, but couldn't. I got nothing from the so called Gurus except what is available in Achieves itself. > > But, I am here to learn from practical experience and try to dispel the gloom encircling the world of astrology. However, it should not be mistaken as adamant or prejudicial behaviour on my part. I still have respects for genuine persons like Narasimha whom I consider honest and a true seeker though trapped in a wrong place. But, then, it is his destiny. > > Praveen Kumar (Mumbai) > > > - > Rao Nemani > Vedic Astrology Group > 24, 04, 2005 7:21 AM > [vedic astrology] Request to you Praveen > > > Om Krishna Guru > > Namaste Praveen, > > I was going thru the archives and found some messages written by a person named Praveen. Are you the same Praveen of the following messages or some one else as the id is different. If you are the same Praveen, then you must have been learning/learnt a lot from Gurus and learned members from this list since Oct 2002. > > So may I ask to please share with me all your collection of the articles which you got from Gurus of this list. I am asking this because, does not store any of the attachements any more from the previous messages and you are lucky to have them earlier. > > vedic astrology/message/18535 > vedic astrology/message/18848 > vedic astrology/message/19050 > > Thanks for your help in advance. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > -- -------- > Links > > > vedic astrology/ > > b.. > vedic astrology > > c.. Terms of Service. 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Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 || Hare Ramakrishna || Namaste, Folks, if you are unhappy with someone's predictive capabilities it is a private issue and you must have the courage to point it out to them. It is deplorable to use a public forum to idulge in this kind of mud slinging fest! We are all grown up and please behave like one, BTW, haven't any of you slingers ever heard the phrase "ati sarvatra varjyati". If you don't like something you hear, discard it! You don't have to rake up the same thing again and again which doesn't help you any better astrologer. Please never encourage fatalistic approach towards astrology/astrologer warm regards, Vishnu -- Om Akhandala mandalaakaaram vyaptam yena charaa charam tatpadam darsita yena tasmai sri gurave namah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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