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Dear Brennan,

 

Astrodeinst gives it as TZ 2 hrs. Probably there was DST.

 

Some western astrologers give the BT as 3.15 GMT (& 4.15 MET), you

have any idea what it means?

 

regards

Suryaviswanadham

 

 

vedic astrology, GWBrennan@a... wrote:

> Dear Narasimha

>

> Can you explain why you have given TZ 2 for Marktl, Germany? At

12 degrees

> East from Greenwich it is in TZ 1.

>

> Regards

>

> Gordon

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Dear Mr. Rao and esteemed members,

 

Namasthe!

 

I would like to add my observations on the newly elected Pope

Benedict XVI's chart. I respectfully disagree with the birth time

Mr. Rao has given. After observing the various physical features,

trends and events in life, I feel Leo lagna is more appropriate for

the new Pope.

 

The time that I have arrived is 14.23 hrs on April 16, 1927 at

Marktl, Germany (I use Raman Ayanamsa).

 

I am giving below the methodology adopted for the benefit of

members. The lagna in Rasi chart was arrived first, then in Navamsa,

Dasamsa, Dwadasamsa, Siddhamsha and Shashtyamsa.

 

1. His square face and body structure makes him ideal for Leo

Lagna. Jupiter's aspect on Lagna will make him respected by others

in the society.

2. In Navamsa, a lagna whose 7th house is owned by Saturn is

suitable. Saturn as the 7th lord creates disturbance with regard to

7th house matters. Saturn as the 7th lord in the 4th, viewing Venus

is more ideal and hence Leo was selected

3. In Dasamsa chart, Capricorn is rising with Mercury in it.

Mercury gives spiritual inclination. Saturn as the Lagna lord makes

the person hard working. 10th lord Venus is in the house of Jupiter.

Moreover, Pisces is a spiritual sign. Venus is also with Ketu,

another spiritual planet. Jupiter further aspects Venus.

4. In Dwadasamsa chart, 4th lord is Venus and 10th from 4th is

Lagna which is viewed by Venus, Saturn and Moon. His mother was a

cook. 9th house is Libra, whose lord is Venus. 10th from 9th is

Cancer. Both Jupiter and Saturn aspect this house. Jupiter indicates

Law and Dharma, while Saturn indicates Labor work. His father was a

police officer.

5. Siddhamsa chart relates to education. 5th house is the house

of education. 5th lord Saturn is in the 11th, along with Jupiter

indicating higher studies. Pope did his PhD in Theology.

6. Shashtyamsa chart indicates previous karma. It would be

logical to conclude that the new pope would have done good karma in

his previous life. Aries rising, with moon in it. Mars,

Lagnadhipathi aspects Lagna. Dharmasthana has dharmadhipathi Jupiter

and 5th lord Sun in it. 10th lord Saturn aspects dharmasthana.

 

Important events:

 

Since Lagna is Vargottama, Satabdhika Dasa is applicable.

 

Maha Dasas:

 

Sun: 1925-08-23 - 1930-08-23

Moon: 1930-08-23 - 1935-08-23

Ven: 1935-08-23 - 1945-08-23

Merc: 1945-08-23 - 1955-08-23

Jup: 1955-08-23 - 1975-08-23

Mars: 1975-08-23 - 1995-08-24

Sat: 1995-08-24 - 2025-08-23

 

• Mercury Dasa was from August 1945 to August 1955. This was

when pope did his schooling. Mercury as the 11th lord gave him

higher education during his Dasa. Mercury – Sun would helped him get

his PhD in 1953.

• During Jupiter Dasa, he became a teacher. Jupiter signifies

Guru or teacher. Being the 5th lord, he is imparting whatever he

learnt to the students.

• He was made the Arch Bishop of Munich in March 1977 and

later declared as cardinal in June 1977. Mars – Mars was running.

Mars is the 9th (house of dharma) lord in the 11th (house of gains).

Jupiter further aspects Mars.

• Declared pope on April 19, 2005. Saturn-Sun. Sun is lagna

lord, in 9th house and exalted. Saturn is also strong as he is

retrograde. Being the owner of 7th, he become benefic.

 

I request readers to kindly give their observations.

 

Om Tat Sat,

 

Raman Suprajarama

 

 

 

 

______

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astrology] On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:00 AM

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[vedic astrology] Chart of Pope Benedict XVI

 

Namaste friends,

 

> I see no-one has commented on the appointment today of

the new pope.

 

My best wishes to our catholic friends on this auspicious occasion

of Pope Benedit XVI's Urbi et Orbi blessing!

 

The time at which he seems to have accepted his election is:

 

2005 April 19

17:50 (TZ: 2:00 east)

Vatican, Italy (41n54, 12e2)

Moon: 9Le18, Asc: 12Vi11

 

Lagna has Jupiter and Ketu in it. This is auspicious for spreading

the genuine knowledge of some parampara (tradition/lineage).

 

The five panchanga elements correspond to five elements. Vaara

(weekday) corresponds to agni tattva (fire). Thus, vaara bala

(weekday strength) is important for longevity. Weekday lord is Mars.

He is the exalted 8th lord. It does not suggest that this papacy

will last long.

 

More importantly, there is chara karaka parivartana!!! Mars at

27Cp45 is AK (chara atma karaka) and 27Ge12 is the AmK (chara amatya

karaka). Though Mars is the AK at the beginning, he will be replaced

by Saturn in due course. Such a replacement of chara karakas,

especially involving AK, is considered very inauspicious. It shows a

change of guard in a short time.

 

So I am afraid that this papacy will be quite short-lived.

 

* * *

 

Now let us look at the chart of Pope himself. According to the Holy

See website, The Holy Father was born on 1927 April 16 in Marktl,

Germany. In a radio program I heard this evening, a Floridan

theologian who was Holy Father's student said he was born in the

morning on the Holy Saturday in 1927 and was baptised on the Easter

morning. I saw that Aries and Taurus can be the rising signs and

feel that Aries must be correct. I feel that lagna should be Ge in

navamsa and dasamsa, Le in vimsamsa and Ta in shashtyamsa. The

birthdata I am taking is:

 

1927 April 16

6:33:40 am ( TZ: 2:00)

Marktl, Germany (12e5, 48n15)

 

Aries rises with exalted Sun in it. This makes him a strong,

authoritative and enterprising person. That Sun is in Brahmalokamsa

(occupies own/exaltation/moolatrikona sign in 8 out of 10 vargas).

Whether one agress with his views and teachings or not, he is

undoubtedly a man of great intellect and character (assuming the

chart is correct). A planet in Brahmalokamsa in a quadrant shows a

person of the stature of maharshis.

 

Navamsa has Jupiter and Ketu in lagna, showing. Pope John Paul II

had kartari of Jupiter and Ketu on lagna in navamsa. Pope Benedict

XVI has Jupiter and Ketu in lagna in navamsa. This shows that his

dharma (navamsa) involves spreading traditional religious knowledge

(Jupiter) coming in a lineage (Ketu).

 

In dasamsa, Gemini rises. The 10th lord Jupiter is in a dasamsa

ruled by Ananta (shows spiritual rise) and the 10th house has

exalted 5th/12th lord Venus, who is in a dasamsa ruled by Isaana.

Isaana is an auspicioud form Shiva and planets in Isaana's dasamsa

show religious professions. You can see planets in Isaana's dasamsa

involved with lagna or 10th house in dasamsa in the chart of Pope

John Paul II and several Shankaracharyas too!

 

The 5th lord Venus in Isaana's dasamsa in 10th house shows a

passionate (rajasik - Venus) priest and religious preacher (Isaana).

Lagna and 4 planets in a dasamsa ruled by Yama show a

disciplinarian. Yama [Dharmaraja] is the keeper of dharma in

Hinduism. Planets in Yama's dasamsa show discipline and impassionate

and unemotional adherence of dharma. He is a disciplinarian and an

impassionate keeper of dharma.

 

In dwadasamsa (D-12), Ge rises. The 9th house is Aq and should be

taken as lagna to see father. The 10th from Aq is Sc. It is empty

and Mars owns it. His father was a police officer.

 

As he has Sun in lagna, Shashtihayani dasa applies. During Saturn-

Mars antardasa, he was called was called into the auxiliary anti-

aircraft service in Germany. In D-10 (chart of profession), Saturn

and Mars (two malefics) are in 6th and 3rd houses. Especially, Mars

is the 6th lord in 3rd with Rahu in Yama's dasamsa. Such a Mars can

show work in the military. Thus, Mars antardasa made him a military

man.

 

During 1946-1951, he studied philosophy and theology. This

corresponds to Rahu's shashtihayani dasa (1946-1952). In D-24 (chart

of education), the 4th house shows basic education, 9th house (6th

from 4th) shows specialized education such as bachelor's degree and

the 2nd house (6th from 9th) shows focussed study such as masters.

Rahu is the 2nd lord in 2nd and shows master's degree in some

Aquarian subjects (such as philosophy). No wonder it happened in

Rahu dasa.

 

Next dasa was that of Jupiter. Jupiter is the 12th lord in D-24 and

shows giving knowledge. He is the 10th lord in D-10 and occupies

6th. Thus, he shows teaching profession. He was teaching fundamental

theology for most of Jupiter dasa.

 

In the next dasa of Sun, he became well-known thru various

publications and papers. Sun is the exalted 3rd lord in D-10 and

shows writing.

 

In March 1977, he was elected as the Archbishop of Munich and

Freising. In June 1977, he was proclaimed Cardinal by Pope Paul VI.

Both were during Mars-Venus antardasa. Mars is in GL (ghatika lagna)

in D-10. He is also in A5. While the 5th house shows the intangible

abilities, its arudha pada shows a tangible expression/manifestation

of abilities. Venus is the exalted 5th lord. Mars is in A5 and Venus

is the 5th lord. So he had several achievements and recognitions

during this antardasa!!

 

Interestingly, it is now Mars antardasa in Venus mahadasa! Mars-

Venus made him a cardinal. Venus-Mars made him a pope! He became a

teacher in Jupiter mahadasa and he became a Dean of the college of

cardinals in Jupiter antardasa in Venus mahadasa.

 

I am reasonably comfortable with the speculative birthdata I

presented in this article and shashtihayani dasa seems to work

brilliantly in this case.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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Dear Mr. Rao and esteemed members,

 

Namasthe!

 

I would like to add my observations on the newly elected Pope

Benedict XVI's chart. I respectfully disagree with the birth time

Mr. Rao has given. After observing the various physical features,

trends and events in life, I feel Leo lagna is more appropriate for

the new Pope.

 

The time that I have arrived is 14.23 hrs on April 16, 1927 at

Marktl, Germany (I use Raman Ayanamsa).

 

I am giving below the methodology adopted for the benefit of

members. The lagna in Rasi chart was arrived first, then in Navamsa,

Dasamsa, Dwadasamsa, Siddhamsha and Shashtyamsa.

 

1. His square face and body structure makes him ideal for Leo

Lagna. Jupiter's aspect on Lagna will make him respected by others

in the society.

2. In Navamsa, a lagna whose 7th house is owned by Saturn is

suitable. Saturn as the 7th lord creates disturbance with regard to

7th house matters. Saturn as the 7th lord in the 4th, viewing Venus

is more ideal and hence Leo was selected

3. In Dasamsa chart, Capricorn is rising with Mercury in it.

Mercury gives spiritual inclination. Saturn as the Lagna lord makes

the person hard working. 10th lord Venus is in the house of Jupiter.

Moreover, Pisces is a spiritual sign. Venus is also with Ketu,

another spiritual planet. Jupiter further aspects Venus.

4. In Dwadasamsa chart, 4th lord is Venus and 10th from 4th is

Lagna which is viewed by Venus, Saturn and Moon. His mother was a

cook. 9th house is Libra, whose lord is Venus. 10th from 9th is

Cancer. Both Jupiter and Saturn aspect this house. Jupiter indicates

Law and Dharma, while Saturn indicates Labor work. His father was a

police officer.

5. Siddhamsa chart relates to education. 5th house is the house

of education. 5th lord Saturn is in the 11th, along with Jupiter

indicating higher studies. Pope did his PhD in Theology.

6. Shashtyamsa chart indicates previous karma. It would be

logical to conclude that the new pope would have done good karma in

his previous life. Aries rising, with moon in it. Mars,

Lagnadhipathi aspects Lagna. Dharmasthana has dharmadhipathi Jupiter

and 5th lord Sun in it. 10th lord Saturn aspects dharmasthana.

 

Important events:

 

Since Lagna is Vargottama, Satabdhika Dasa is applicable.

 

Maha Dasas:

 

Sun: 1925-08-23 - 1930-08-23

Moon: 1930-08-23 - 1935-08-23

Ven: 1935-08-23 - 1945-08-23

Merc: 1945-08-23 - 1955-08-23

Jup: 1955-08-23 - 1975-08-23

Mars: 1975-08-23 - 1995-08-24

Sat: 1995-08-24 - 2025-08-23

 

• Mercury Dasa was from August 1945 to August 1955. This was

when pope did his schooling. Mercury as the 11th lord gave him

higher education during his Dasa. Mercury – Sun would helped him get

his PhD in 1953.

• During Jupiter Dasa, he became a teacher. Jupiter signifies

Guru or teacher. Being the 5th lord, he is imparting whatever he

learnt to the students.

• He was made the Arch Bishop of Munich in March 1977 and

later declared as cardinal in June 1977. Mars – Mars was running.

Mars is the 9th (house of dharma) lord in the 11th (house of gains).

Jupiter further aspects Mars.

• Declared pope on April 19, 2005. Saturn-Sun. Sun is lagna

lord, in 9th house and exalted. Saturn is also strong as he is

retrograde. Being the owner of 7th, he become benefic.

 

I request readers to kindly give their observations.

 

Om Tat Sat,

 

Raman Suprajarama

 

 

 

 

______

vedic astrology [vedic-

astrology] On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:00 AM

vedic astrology; varahamihira;

SJC List;

[vedic astrology] Chart of Pope Benedict XVI

 

Namaste friends,

 

> I see no-one has commented on the appointment today of

the new pope.

 

My best wishes to our catholic friends on this auspicious occasion

of Pope Benedit XVI's Urbi et Orbi blessing!

 

The time at which he seems to have accepted his election is:

 

2005 April 19

17:50 (TZ: 2:00 east)

Vatican, Italy (41n54, 12e2)

Moon: 9Le18, Asc: 12Vi11

 

Lagna has Jupiter and Ketu in it. This is auspicious for spreading

the genuine knowledge of some parampara (tradition/lineage).

 

The five panchanga elements correspond to five elements. Vaara

(weekday) corresponds to agni tattva (fire). Thus, vaara bala

(weekday strength) is important for longevity. Weekday lord is Mars.

He is the exalted 8th lord. It does not suggest that this papacy

will last long.

 

More importantly, there is chara karaka parivartana!!! Mars at

27Cp45 is AK (chara atma karaka) and 27Ge12 is the AmK (chara amatya

karaka). Though Mars is the AK at the beginning, he will be replaced

by Saturn in due course. Such a replacement of chara karakas,

especially involving AK, is considered very inauspicious. It shows a

change of guard in a short time.

 

So I am afraid that this papacy will be quite short-lived.

 

* * *

 

Now let us look at the chart of Pope himself. According to the Holy

See website, The Holy Father was born on 1927 April 16 in Marktl,

Germany. In a radio program I heard this evening, a Floridan

theologian who was Holy Father's student said he was born in the

morning on the Holy Saturday in 1927 and was baptised on the Easter

morning. I saw that Aries and Taurus can be the rising signs and

feel that Aries must be correct. I feel that lagna should be Ge in

navamsa and dasamsa, Le in vimsamsa and Ta in shashtyamsa. The

birthdata I am taking is:

 

1927 April 16

6:33:40 am ( TZ: 2:00)

Marktl, Germany (12e5, 48n15)

 

Aries rises with exalted Sun in it. This makes him a strong,

authoritative and enterprising person. That Sun is in Brahmalokamsa

(occupies own/exaltation/moolatrikona sign in 8 out of 10 vargas).

Whether one agress with his views and teachings or not, he is

undoubtedly a man of great intellect and character (assuming the

chart is correct). A planet in Brahmalokamsa in a quadrant shows a

person of the stature of maharshis.

 

Navamsa has Jupiter and Ketu in lagna, showing. Pope John Paul II

had kartari of Jupiter and Ketu on lagna in navamsa. Pope Benedict

XVI has Jupiter and Ketu in lagna in navamsa. This shows that his

dharma (navamsa) involves spreading traditional religious knowledge

(Jupiter) coming in a lineage (Ketu).

 

In dasamsa, Gemini rises. The 10th lord Jupiter is in a dasamsa

ruled by Ananta (shows spiritual rise) and the 10th house has

exalted 5th/12th lord Venus, who is in a dasamsa ruled by Isaana.

Isaana is an auspicioud form Shiva and planets in Isaana's dasamsa

show religious professions. You can see planets in Isaana's dasamsa

involved with lagna or 10th house in dasamsa in the chart of Pope

John Paul II and several Shankaracharyas too!

 

The 5th lord Venus in Isaana's dasamsa in 10th house shows a

passionate (rajasik - Venus) priest and religious preacher (Isaana).

Lagna and 4 planets in a dasamsa ruled by Yama show a

disciplinarian. Yama [Dharmaraja] is the keeper of dharma in

Hinduism. Planets in Yama's dasamsa show discipline and impassionate

and unemotional adherence of dharma. He is a disciplinarian and an

impassionate keeper of dharma.

 

In dwadasamsa (D-12), Ge rises. The 9th house is Aq and should be

taken as lagna to see father. The 10th from Aq is Sc. It is empty

and Mars owns it. His father was a police officer.

 

As he has Sun in lagna, Shashtihayani dasa applies. During Saturn-

Mars antardasa, he was called was called into the auxiliary anti-

aircraft service in Germany. In D-10 (chart of profession), Saturn

and Mars (two malefics) are in 6th and 3rd houses. Especially, Mars

is the 6th lord in 3rd with Rahu in Yama's dasamsa. Such a Mars can

show work in the military. Thus, Mars antardasa made him a military

man.

 

During 1946-1951, he studied philosophy and theology. This

corresponds to Rahu's shashtihayani dasa (1946-1952). In D-24 (chart

of education), the 4th house shows basic education, 9th house (6th

from 4th) shows specialized education such as bachelor's degree and

the 2nd house (6th from 9th) shows focussed study such as masters.

Rahu is the 2nd lord in 2nd and shows master's degree in some

Aquarian subjects (such as philosophy). No wonder it happened in

Rahu dasa.

 

Next dasa was that of Jupiter. Jupiter is the 12th lord in D-24 and

shows giving knowledge. He is the 10th lord in D-10 and occupies

6th. Thus, he shows teaching profession. He was teaching fundamental

theology for most of Jupiter dasa.

 

In the next dasa of Sun, he became well-known thru various

publications and papers. Sun is the exalted 3rd lord in D-10 and

shows writing.

 

In March 1977, he was elected as the Archbishop of Munich and

Freising. In June 1977, he was proclaimed Cardinal by Pope Paul VI.

Both were during Mars-Venus antardasa. Mars is in GL (ghatika lagna)

in D-10. He is also in A5. While the 5th house shows the intangible

abilities, its arudha pada shows a tangible expression/manifestation

of abilities. Venus is the exalted 5th lord. Mars is in A5 and Venus

is the 5th lord. So he had several achievements and recognitions

during this antardasa!!

 

Interestingly, it is now Mars antardasa in Venus mahadasa! Mars-

Venus made him a cardinal. Venus-Mars made him a pope! He became a

teacher in Jupiter mahadasa and he became a Dean of the college of

cardinals in Jupiter antardasa in Venus mahadasa.

 

I am reasonably comfortable with the speculative birthdata I

presented in this article and shashtihayani dasa seems to work

brilliantly in this case.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

-------------------------------

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

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Dear Suryaviswanadham

 

I just looked it up - summer time began on 9th April that year according to

'Time Changes in the World'. However 'Time Changes in the World' says 1927

4/9 - 11pm Returned to S.T. Meridian of 15E00 I don't know what that

means!

GMT is Greenwich Mean Time and MET is Middle European Time. Western Astrologers

count back to GMT for the chart time.

 

I presume then it should be 3.15 GMT (if that time is taken). That would be

4.15 in TZ 1 in winter and 5.15 in TZ 1 during summer time??

 

Regards

 

Gordon

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