Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Hare Rama Krishna Dar Sourav, Namakar Are you saying that there can be none born with Taurus rising having DKY? Try and answer this one question. regards Suryaviswanadham vedic astrology, "feynman_8" <sourav12@h...> wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Dear Suryavishwanandan-ji, > Namaskar. I tend to disagree. You are > confusing DKY with yogakaraka. They are not the same. A yogakaraka > is a causer of auspicious combination (literal translation) as it > owns a kendra and trikona (vishusthana and lakshmisthana). > Dhaarmakarmadhipaty yoga is the highest form of raajayoga and it > involved combination (by conjunction or mutual aspect) of two > planets. A yoga is not the same as yogakaraka. That is why the > distinction is made by Maharshi Parasara. > If you consider that all Ta Ascendants having suo muto > Dharmakarmadhipati yoga, then it means (let's forget about Rahu's co- > lordship for the time being) that such ascendant person's will rice > very high is life as the lords of 9H and 10H being conjuct exactly > at the same degree gives the highest degree of manifestation of this > rajayoga !! This cannot be the case. The degree and area of > manifestation of a DKY depends on (a) how close the two planets are > in conjunction of mutual aspect (b) which house(s) they are in. > Yogakaraka is a different story. > > Let me quote Maharshi Parasara (BPHS 36.13): > > Koneshatwe jadaikashya kendreshatwam cha jaayate | > kendre koney sthito batsou visheshadyogakaaraka || > > Dr. G. C. Sharma's Translation: > > If one and the same planet becomes lord of a trine and also the lord > of angle AND OCCUPIES AN ANGLE OR A TRINE, it will prove to be a > yogakaraka. > > Hope this helps to clarify what Maharshi Parasara means by the > difference between a Yogakaraka and a particular yoga, be it a DKY > or some other yoga. > > Regards, > > Sourav > > > vedic astrology, "SuryaViswanadham" > <vishwanatham@g...> wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Dear Sourav & Richa, > > > > For Taurus lagna, it is lords of two houses, 9th and 10th, which > come > > together. As it is the same planet, there is complete fusion! > Infact > > Saturn in this case gives suo-motto Raja Yoga. > > > > One needs to watch, Rahu, because it is the co-lord of the 10th in > > this case. Also, the fact that 9th house for Taurus is badhaka > sthana. > > > > Some of these factors could come in the way to call it as the > highest > > of Raja Yoga ( which is what a DKY is). > > > > My 2 cents. > > > > regards > > Suryaviswanadham > > vedic astrology, "feynman_8" > <sourav12@h...> > > wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > Dear Richa-ji, > > > Namaskar. I was almost expecting this question > > coming. > > > No that is not the case. It has to be two separate planets to be > a > > > yoga, as yoga means "joining" of two different planets in some > way. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > vedic astrology, "richas_lucky" > > > <richas_lucky> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs > > > > This is the yoga when 9th and 10th lord cojoins, interchange > from > > > > lagna or 9th house or 10th house. So my question is this that > for > > > > taurus lagna saturn being 9th and 10th lord makes > automatically > > this > > > > yoga............Am i right???? > > > > Thanxs and regards > > > > Richa Gupta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Suryavishwanandan-ji, Namaskar. Unfortunately you didnt read my posting carefully are trying to argue back without properly understanding subtlely of the meaning Maharshi's sloka. With due respect, let me strengthen my understanding further. *Mere* ownership of 9H and 10H by Sa doesn't make a Dharmakarmadhipati yoga. A yoga is different than yogakaraka. In order to have Saturn give its full auspicious effect in Ta lagna case, it ( just like any yogakaraka ) ***should be placed in a kendra or trikona***. Because Sa owns 9H of dharma and 10H of karma, it will give these effects which may be as good as or akin to dharmakarmadhipati yoga. If Sa is placed in 9H or 10H such effect will be fuller. But this does not constitute a dharmakarmadhipaty yoga by definition. And yes if that is the case of Sa owning 9H and 10H, by Maharshi's terminology, Ta lagna cannot have Dharmakarmadhipati yoga but will be an equally benefic Yogakaraka. Just like Ge lagna doesn't have a yogakaraka ! For example, 8L in 8H increases longivity and makes one fearless, learned and prosperous and is called Sarala yoga. If, idependantly, Lagna lord is very well placed such effects are also predicted. Now they are the same effects but causes are different, so do we call LL placed in La also a Sarala yoga ?? Of course not !! Everything has a different terminology and there are always subtle significances. So Sa being a YK (if placed in a Kendra and Kona) can give similar auspicious significances as DKY but doesn't become DKY thereby. None of the text books say that such a Sa is DKY of a Ta lagna. You also didn't answer my question. The question was that if Sa is constituting a DKY, as per your notion, it automatically means *exact* conjunction of the 9L and 10L, right ?? So that means it is a highest form and effect of this best of the best of rajayogas. right ?? But we don't see such that very often do we ?? Sa is yoga karaka for 1/12-th of the world population. Thus there are many variations of a DKY and you are automatically annuling them. I hope you understand and accept the subtlety of the concept of Yogakaraka. I try to stick to Maharshi's work rather than going for popular ideas. Regards, Sourav ==================================================================== vedic astrology, "SuryaViswanadham" <vishwanatham@g...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Namasthe Saumya, > > For Gemini lagna, Jup & Rahu together is a Guru-chandala yoga. The > akasha tatwa represented by Guru is vitiated by the association with > Rahu. Karaka (Jup) for 9th is damaged by this association, so, again > DKY is not possible. > > (The two lords for Scorpio & Aquarius represent two paths/choices > infront of the person) > > For Taurus lagna, Saturn remains a badhakesh (9th lordship). With > badha in the area of Dharma how can it give Dharma-Karmadhipathi Yoga. > > It is known that when 9th and 10th lords join together, the native > does Karma related to dharma in the society. > > How would Saturn give its results in the 12th for Taurus lagna? > > > regards > Suryaviswanadham > > vedic astrology, saumya ray chaudhuri > <saumya@r...> wrote: > > Respected Vishwanatham Ji, > > While following the thread a question arise in my mind. Rahu co- > lords 10th in case of Tarus and 9th in case of Gemini lagna. My > question is Combination of Rahu and Saturn in case of Tarus lagna or > Rahu- Jupiter in case of Gemini lagna will give rise to DKY or not. > > I appreciate your input in this regard. > > Thank you > > With personal regards > > Saumya > > > > SuryaViswanadham <vishwanatham@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Dear Sourav & Richa, > > > > For Taurus lagna, it is lords of two houses, 9th and 10th, which > come > > together. As it is the same planet, there is complete fusion! > Infact > > Saturn in this case gives suo-motto Raja Yoga. > > > > One needs to watch, Rahu, because it is the co-lord of the 10th in > > this case. Also, the fact that 9th house for Taurus is badhaka > sthana. > > > > Some of these factors could come in the way to call it as the > highest > > of Raja Yoga ( which is what a DKY is). > > > > My 2 cents. > > > > regards > > Suryaviswanadham > > vedic astrology, "feynman_8" > > wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > Dear Richa-ji, > > > Namaskar. I was almost expecting this question > > coming. > > > No that is not the case. It has to be two separate planets to be > a > > > yoga, as yoga means "joining" of two different planets in some > way. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > vedic astrology, "richas_lucky" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs > > > > This is the yoga when 9th and 10th lord cojoins, interchange > from > > > > lagna or 9th house or 10th house. So my question is this that > for > > > > taurus lagna saturn being 9th and 10th lord makes automatically > > this > > > > yoga............Am i right???? > > > > Thanxs and regards > > > > Richa Gupta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saumya Ray Chaudhuri > > IMTECH,Sector 39A, Chandigarh-160036 > > ph 0172 690751(lab) > > > > > > Mail Mobile > > Take Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Respected Gurus, I read somewhere, Conj of 5L and 10L forms second level of DKY. Just wondering, What is learned astrologers opinion on that? If yes, What is the defination of 2nd level DKY here? And Is it that 4L and 10L conj also causes some great Raj Yoga? - Kaushik vedic astrology, saumya ray chaudhuri <saumya@r...> wrote: > Respected Vishwanatham Ji, > While following the thread a question arise in my mind. Rahu co-lords 10th in case of Tarus and 9th in case of Gemini lagna. My question is Combination of Rahu and Saturn in case of Tarus lagna or Rahu- Jupiter in case of Gemini lagna will give rise to DKY or not. > I appreciate your input in this regard. > Thank you > With personal regards > Saumya > > SuryaViswanadham <vishwanatham@g...> wrote: > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Sourav & Richa, > > For Taurus lagna, it is lords of two houses, 9th and 10th, which come > together. As it is the same planet, there is complete fusion! Infact > Saturn in this case gives suo-motto Raja Yoga. > > One needs to watch, Rahu, because it is the co-lord of the 10th in > this case. Also, the fact that 9th house for Taurus is badhaka sthana. > > Some of these factors could come in the way to call it as the highest > of Raja Yoga ( which is what a DKY is). > > My 2 cents. > > regards > Suryaviswanadham > vedic astrology, "feynman_8" > wrote: > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > Dear Richa-ji, > > Namaskar. I was almost expecting this question > coming. > > No that is not the case. It has to be two separate planets to be a > > yoga, as yoga means "joining" of two different planets in some way. > > > > Regards, > > > > Sourav > > > > vedic astrology, "richas_lucky" > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sirs > > > This is the yoga when 9th and 10th lord cojoins, interchange from > > > lagna or 9th house or 10th house. So my question is this that for > > > taurus lagna saturn being 9th and 10th lord makes automatically > this > > > yoga............Am i right???? > > > Thanxs and regards > > > Richa Gupta > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > Links > > > Saumya Ray Chaudhuri > IMTECH,Sector 39A, Chandigarh-160036 > ph 0172 690751(lab) > > > Mail Mobile > Take Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Kaushik, Namaskar. I am not a guru but let me answer your question. 5L and 10L associating is another form of Dharma- karmadhipaty yoga. Please read Crux of Vedic Astrology (COVA) article 13.5.2. I can't say that this is the 2 level of DKY; I will prefer to call it a variant. Let us understand why 10L and 5L association also causes such a yoga as is caused by the association of 10L and 9L. 10H represents our karma and 9H our dharma. Dharma is the righteous action that, if performed solely and perfectly, will lead us towards the final goal of emancipation. Hence the name of dharma-karmadhipaty yoga. Now, if our intelligence (buddhi) is purified and the mind (manas) is under control, then the yoga of 10L and 5L means that our purified buddhi is controlling and directing our actions. This is very good and will lead along the same path as directed by dharma. Hence 10L and 5L association causes another variation of the DKY. I don't know if there is another different name for it. 10L and 4L association is known as Gyana yoga. It leads to Moksha. Hope this helps. Regards, Sourav ================================================================== vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" <itsmekk2> wrote: > > Respected Gurus, > > I read somewhere, Conj of 5L and 10L forms second level of DKY. Just > wondering, What is learned astrologers opinion on that? If yes, What > is the defination of 2nd level DKY here? And Is it that 4L and 10L > conj also causes some great Raj Yoga? > > - Kaushik > > vedic astrology, saumya ray chaudhuri > <saumya@r...> wrote: > > Respected Vishwanatham Ji, > > While following the thread a question arise in my mind. Rahu > co-lords 10th in case of Tarus and 9th in case of Gemini lagna. My > question is Combination of Rahu and Saturn in case of Tarus lagna or > Rahu- Jupiter in case of Gemini lagna will give rise to DKY or not. > > I appreciate your input in this regard. > > Thank you > > With personal regards > > Saumya > > > > SuryaViswanadham <vishwanatham@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Dear Sourav & Richa, > > > > For Taurus lagna, it is lords of two houses, 9th and 10th, which come > > together. As it is the same planet, there is complete fusion! Infact > > Saturn in this case gives suo-motto Raja Yoga. > > > > One needs to watch, Rahu, because it is the co-lord of the 10th in > > this case. Also, the fact that 9th house for Taurus is badhaka sthana. > > > > Some of these factors could come in the way to call it as the highest > > of Raja Yoga ( which is what a DKY is). > > > > My 2 cents. > > > > regards > > Suryaviswanadham > > vedic astrology, "feynman_8" > > wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > Dear Richa-ji, > > > Namaskar. I was almost expecting this question > > coming. > > > No that is not the case. It has to be two separate planets to be a > > > yoga, as yoga means "joining" of two different planets in some way. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > vedic astrology, "richas_lucky" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs > > > > This is the yoga when 9th and 10th lord cojoins, interchange from > > > > lagna or 9th house or 10th house. So my question is this that for > > > > taurus lagna saturn being 9th and 10th lord makes automatically > > this > > > > yoga............Am i right???? > > > > Thanxs and regards > > > > Richa Gupta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saumya Ray Chaudhuri > > IMTECH,Sector 39A, Chandigarh-160036 > > ph 0172 690751(lab) > > > > > > Mail Mobile > > Take Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Dear Sourav, Namaskar! That was a good explaination, and Article refered in COVA is indeed a very good article. With this, Let me present clear picture on the topic. In Addition to mentioned planetary combinations, If there is parivartan in 4L and 9L, and conj of 4L-5L with 10L in 9th, What does that total scenario suggest? How do we interpret that? In the case I am considering, For Libra Lagna, Sat is 4L-5L (Yogakaraka) in conj with 10L (Moon) in 9th. At the same time, 9L Merc is in 4th, Along with exalted 2L-7L Mars. Regards, - Kaushik. vedic astrology, "feynman_8" <sourav12@h...> wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Dear Kaushik, > Namaskar. I am not a guru but let me answer your > question. 5L and 10L associating is another form of Dharma- > karmadhipaty yoga. Please read Crux of Vedic Astrology (COVA) > article 13.5.2. I can't say that this is the 2 level of DKY; I will > prefer to call it a variant. > > Let us understand why 10L and 5L association also causes such a yoga > as is caused by the association of 10L and 9L. 10H represents our > karma and 9H our dharma. Dharma is the righteous action that, if > performed solely and perfectly, will lead us towards the final goal > of emancipation. Hence the name of dharma-karmadhipaty yoga. Now, if > our intelligence (buddhi) is purified and the mind (manas) is under > control, then the yoga of 10L and 5L means that our purified buddhi > is controlling and directing our actions. This is very good and will > lead along the same path as directed by dharma. Hence 10L and 5L > association causes another variation of the DKY. I don't know if > there is another different name for it. > > 10L and 4L association is known as Gyana yoga. It leads to Moksha. > > Hope this helps. > > Regards, > > Sourav > ================================================================== > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" <itsmekk2> > wrote: > > > > Respected Gurus, > > > > I read somewhere, Conj of 5L and 10L forms second level of DKY. > Just > > wondering, What is learned astrologers opinion on that? If yes, > What > > is the defination of 2nd level DKY here? And Is it that 4L and 10L > > conj also causes some great Raj Yoga? > > > > - Kaushik > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Kaushik, Namaskar. A. Consider yogas after parivartana. So, here, after considering parivartana, Me is with Mo in the 9H and Sa is in own sign (Cp) in 4H. This shows a clearn DKY by Mo and Me. Now we have to see the degree of closeness between Mo and Me to determine how effective this is. The only negative thing is that Me is also 12L and can give some kind of loss (or even a strong desire for moksha as 12H stands Mo). We have to see if Mo is a functionally benefic here or not. If Mo is benefic, Mo, Me can give very good results. B. Ma and Sa also form a rajayoga being lords of a kendra and a kona respectively. Word of caution, compare with one amongst Sa and Ra is strong to determine who will rule Aq (5H). Hope this helps, Regards, Sourav ===================================================================== vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" <itsmekk2> wrote: > > Dear Sourav, > Namaskar! > > That was a good explaination, and Article refered in COVA is indeed a > very good article. With this, Let me present clear picture on the > topic. In Addition to mentioned planetary combinations, If there is > parivartan in 4L and 9L, and conj of 4L-5L with 10L in 9th, What does > that total scenario suggest? How do we interpret that? > > In the case I am considering, For Libra Lagna, Sat is 4L-5L > (Yogakaraka) in conj with 10L (Moon) in 9th. At the same time, 9L Merc > is in 4th, Along with exalted 2L-7L Mars. > > Regards, > - Kaushik. > > vedic astrology, "feynman_8" <sourav12@h...> wrote: > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > Dear Kaushik, > > Namaskar. I am not a guru but let me answer your > > question. 5L and 10L associating is another form of Dharma- > > karmadhipaty yoga. Please read Crux of Vedic Astrology (COVA) > > article 13.5.2. I can't say that this is the 2 level of DKY; I will > > prefer to call it a variant. > > > > Let us understand why 10L and 5L association also causes such a yoga > > as is caused by the association of 10L and 9L. 10H represents our > > karma and 9H our dharma. Dharma is the righteous action that, if > > performed solely and perfectly, will lead us towards the final goal > > of emancipation. Hence the name of dharma-karmadhipaty yoga. Now, if > > our intelligence (buddhi) is purified and the mind (manas) is under > > control, then the yoga of 10L and 5L means that our purified buddhi > > is controlling and directing our actions. This is very good and will > > lead along the same path as directed by dharma. Hence 10L and 5L > > association causes another variation of the DKY. I don't know if > > there is another different name for it. > > > > 10L and 4L association is known as Gyana yoga. It leads to Moksha. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Regards, > > > > Sourav > > ================================================================== > > > > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" <itsmekk2> > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Gurus, > > > > > > I read somewhere, Conj of 5L and 10L forms second level of DKY. > > Just > > > wondering, What is learned astrologers opinion on that? If yes, > > What > > > is the defination of 2nd level DKY here? And Is it that 4L and 10L > > > conj also causes some great Raj Yoga? > > > > > > - Kaushik > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Dear Sourav, Namaskar! There is slight misunderstanding. Merc (9L-12L) is in 4th and Sat(4L-5L) is in 9th. Sat is joining moon (10L) in 9th. Regards, - Kaushik. vedic astrology, "Sourav Chowdhury" <sourav12@h...> wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Dear Kaushik, > Namaskar. > A. Consider yogas after parivartana. So, here, after considering > parivartana, Me is with Mo in the 9H and Sa is in own sign (Cp) in > 4H. This shows a clearn DKY by Mo and Me. Now we have to see the > degree of closeness between Mo and Me to determine how effective this > is. The only negative thing is that Me is also 12L and can give some > kind of loss (or even a strong desire for moksha as 12H stands Mo). > We have to see if Mo is a functionally benefic here or not. If Mo is > benefic, Mo, Me can give very good results. > > B. Ma and Sa also form a rajayoga being lords of a kendra and a kona > respectively. Word of caution, compare with one amongst Sa and Ra is > strong to determine who will rule Aq (5H). > > Hope this helps, > > Regards, > > Sourav > ===================================================================== > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" <itsmekk2> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sourav, > > Namaskar! > > > > That was a good explaination, and Article refered in COVA is indeed > a > > very good article. With this, Let me present clear picture on the > > topic. In Addition to mentioned planetary combinations, If there is > > parivartan in 4L and 9L, and conj of 4L-5L with 10L in 9th, What > does > > that total scenario suggest? How do we interpret that? > > > > In the case I am considering, For Libra Lagna, Sat is 4L-5L > > (Yogakaraka) in conj with 10L (Moon) in 9th. At the same time, 9L > Merc > > is in 4th, Along with exalted 2L-7L Mars. > > > > Regards, > > - Kaushik. > > > > vedic astrology, "feynman_8" <sourav12@h...> > wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > Dear Kaushik, > > > Namaskar. I am not a guru but let me answer your > > > question. 5L and 10L associating is another form of Dharma- > > > karmadhipaty yoga. Please read Crux of Vedic Astrology (COVA) > > > article 13.5.2. I can't say that this is the 2 level of DKY; I > will > > > prefer to call it a variant. > > > > > > Let us understand why 10L and 5L association also causes such a > yoga > > > as is caused by the association of 10L and 9L. 10H represents our > > > karma and 9H our dharma. Dharma is the righteous action that, if > > > performed solely and perfectly, will lead us towards the final > goal > > > of emancipation. Hence the name of dharma-karmadhipaty yoga. Now, > if > > > our intelligence (buddhi) is purified and the mind (manas) is > under > > > control, then the yoga of 10L and 5L means that our purified > buddhi > > > is controlling and directing our actions. This is very good and > will > > > lead along the same path as directed by dharma. Hence 10L and 5L > > > association causes another variation of the DKY. I don't know if > > > there is another different name for it. > > > > > > 10L and 4L association is known as Gyana yoga. It leads to Moksha. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sourav > > > ================================================================== > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" > <itsmekk2> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Gurus, > > > > > > > > I read somewhere, Conj of 5L and 10L forms second level of DKY. > > > Just > > > > wondering, What is learned astrologers opinion on that? If yes, > > > What > > > > is the defination of 2nd level DKY here? And Is it that 4L and > 10L > > > > conj also causes some great Raj Yoga? > > > > > > > > - Kaushik > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Kaushik, Namaskar. No misunderstanding. I considered position after parivartana. So now, Me is in 9H and Sa in 4H. According to what you said, there are several yogas. One mahapurusha yoga (exltd. Ma is a kendra), one parivartana Rajayoga (between Me and Sa) and One DKY (due to Me and Mo). Hope this clarifies, Regards, Sourav ================================================================ vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" <itsmekk2> wrote: > > Dear Sourav, > Namaskar! > > There is slight misunderstanding. Merc (9L-12L) is in 4th and > Sat(4L-5L) is in 9th. Sat is joining moon (10L) in 9th. > > Regards, > - Kaushik. > > vedic astrology, "Sourav Chowdhury" > <sourav12@h...> wrote: > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > Dear Kaushik, > > Namaskar. > > A. Consider yogas after parivartana. So, here, after considering > > parivartana, Me is with Mo in the 9H and Sa is in own sign (Cp) in > > 4H. This shows a clearn DKY by Mo and Me. Now we have to see the > > degree of closeness between Mo and Me to determine how effective this > > is. The only negative thing is that Me is also 12L and can give some > > kind of loss (or even a strong desire for moksha as 12H stands Mo). > > We have to see if Mo is a functionally benefic here or not. If Mo is > > benefic, Mo, Me can give very good results. > > > > B. Ma and Sa also form a rajayoga being lords of a kendra and a kona > > respectively. Word of caution, compare with one amongst Sa and Ra is > > strong to determine who will rule Aq (5H). > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Regards, > > > > Sourav > > ===================================================================== > > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" <itsmekk2> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sourav, > > > Namaskar! > > > > > > That was a good explaination, and Article refered in COVA is indeed > > a > > > very good article. With this, Let me present clear picture on the > > > topic. In Addition to mentioned planetary combinations, If there is > > > parivartan in 4L and 9L, and conj of 4L-5L with 10L in 9th, What > > does > > > that total scenario suggest? How do we interpret that? > > > > > > In the case I am considering, For Libra Lagna, Sat is 4L-5L > > > (Yogakaraka) in conj with 10L (Moon) in 9th. At the same time, 9L > > Merc > > > is in 4th, Along with exalted 2L-7L Mars. > > > > > > Regards, > > > - Kaushik. > > > > > > vedic astrology, "feynman_8" <sourav12@h...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > > > Dear Kaushik, > > > > Namaskar. I am not a guru but let me answer your > > > > question. 5L and 10L associating is another form of Dharma- > > > > karmadhipaty yoga. Please read Crux of Vedic Astrology (COVA) > > > > article 13.5.2. I can't say that this is the 2 level of DKY; I > > will > > > > prefer to call it a variant. > > > > > > > > Let us understand why 10L and 5L association also causes such a > > yoga > > > > as is caused by the association of 10L and 9L. 10H represents our > > > > karma and 9H our dharma. Dharma is the righteous action that, if > > > > performed solely and perfectly, will lead us towards the final > > goal > > > > of emancipation. Hence the name of dharma-karmadhipaty yoga. Now, > > if > > > > our intelligence (buddhi) is purified and the mind (manas) is > > under > > > > control, then the yoga of 10L and 5L means that our purified > > buddhi > > > > is controlling and directing our actions. This is very good and > > will > > > > lead along the same path as directed by dharma. Hence 10L and 5L > > > > association causes another variation of the DKY. I don't know if > > > > there is another different name for it. > > > > > > > > 10L and 4L association is known as Gyana yoga. It leads to Moksha. > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > ================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" > > <itsmekk2> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurus, > > > > > > > > > > I read somewhere, Conj of 5L and 10L forms second level of DKY. > > > > Just > > > > > wondering, What is learned astrologers opinion on that? If yes, > > > > What > > > > > is the defination of 2nd level DKY here? And Is it that 4L and > > 10L > > > > > conj also causes some great Raj Yoga? > > > > > > > > > > - Kaushik > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Hi Sourav, 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Thanks for your excellent information. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">What can be foretold of Aq Lagna with DKY of 9 and 10 in 10th bhava and another form of DKY i.e. 5 and 10th lord in 10th bhava (Me, Ve and Mars)? 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Mike 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> vedic astrology [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Sourav Chowdhury Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:28 PM To: vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: dharmakarmadhipathi yoga || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Kaushik, Namaskar. A. Consider yogas after parivartana. So, here, after considering parivartana, Me is with Mo in the 9H and Sa is in own sign (Cp) in 4H. This shows a clearn DKY by Mo and Me. Now we have to see the degree of closeness between Mo and Me to determine how effective this is. The only negative thing is that Me is also 12L and can give some kind of loss (or even a strong desire for moksha as 12H stands Mo). We have to see if Mo is a functionally benefic here or not. If Mo is benefic, Mo, Me can give very good results. B. Ma and Sa also form a rajayoga being lords of a kendra and a kona respectively. Word of caution, compare with one amongst Sa and Ra is strong to determine who will rule Aq (5H). Hope this helps, Regards, Sourav ===================================================================== vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" <itsmekk2> wrote: > > Dear Sourav, > Namaskar! > > That was a good explaination, and Article refered in COVA is indeed a > very good article. With this, Let me present clear picture on the > topic. In Addition to mentioned planetary combinations, If there is > parivartan in 4L and 9L, and conj of 4L-5L with 10L in 9th, What does > that total scenario suggest? How do we interpret that? > > In the case I am considering, For Libra Lagna, Sat is 4L-5L > (Yogakaraka) in conj with 10L (Moon) in 9th. At the same time, 9L Merc > is in 4th, Along with exalted 2L-7L Mars. > > Regards, > - Kaushik. > > vedic astrology, "feynman_8" <sourav12@h...> wrote: > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > Dear Kaushik, > > Namaskar. I am not a guru but let me answer your > > question. 5L and 10L associating is another form of Dharma- > > karmadhipaty yoga. Please read Crux of Vedic Astrology (COVA) > > article 13.5.2. I can't say that this is the 2 level of DKY; I will > > prefer to call it a variant. > > > > Let us understand why 10L and 5L association also causes such a yoga > > as is caused by the association of 10L and 9L. 10H represents our > > karma and 9H our dharma. Dharma is the righteous action that, if > > performed solely and perfectly, will lead us towards the final goal > > of emancipation. Hence the name of dharma-karmadhipaty yoga. Now, if > > our intelligence (buddhi) is purified and the mind (manas) is under > > control, then the yoga of 10L and 5L means that our purified buddhi > > is controlling and directing our actions. This is very good and will > > lead along the same path as directed by dharma. Hence 10L and 5L > > association causes another variation of the DKY. I don't know if > > there is another different name for it. > > > > 10L and 4L association is known as Gyana yoga. It leads to Moksha. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Regards, > > > > Sourav > > ================================================================== > > > > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" <itsmekk2> > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Gurus, > > > > > > I read somewhere, Conj of 5L and 10L forms second level of DKY. > > Just > > > wondering, What is learned astrologers opinion on that? If yes, > > What > > > is the defination of 2nd level DKY here? And Is it that 4L and 10L > > > conj also causes some great Raj Yoga? > > > > > > - Kaushik > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Dear Sourav, Namaskar! It sure helps. Very interesting clarifications. Attaching details with this posting, Since there is Amala and Vasumati yoga's also seems to be present from moon. which in combination makes 10th significance quite strong. Also some other aspects like AK, AmK together, 6th in 6 etc. 22nd Feb 1975. 23.19 PM. 19N12, 73E06. Regards, - Kaushik. vedic astrology, "Sourav Chowdhury" <sourav12@h...> wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Dear Kaushik, > Namaskar. No misunderstanding. I considered position > after parivartana. So now, Me is in 9H and Sa in 4H. > According to what you said, there are several yogas. > > One mahapurusha yoga (exltd. Ma is a kendra), one parivartana > Rajayoga (between Me and Sa) and One DKY (due to Me and Mo). > > Hope this clarifies, > > Regards, > > Sourav > ================================================================ > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" <itsmekk2> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sourav, > > Namaskar! > > > > There is slight misunderstanding. Merc (9L-12L) is in 4th and > > Sat(4L-5L) is in 9th. Sat is joining moon (10L) in 9th. > > > > Regards, > > - Kaushik. > > > > vedic astrology, "Sourav Chowdhury" > > <sourav12@h...> wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > Dear Kaushik, > > > Namaskar. > > > A. Consider yogas after parivartana. So, here, after considering > > > parivartana, Me is with Mo in the 9H and Sa is in own sign (Cp) > in > > > 4H. This shows a clearn DKY by Mo and Me. Now we have to see the > > > degree of closeness between Mo and Me to determine how effective > this > > > is. The only negative thing is that Me is also 12L and can give > some > > > kind of loss (or even a strong desire for moksha as 12H stands > Mo). > > > We have to see if Mo is a functionally benefic here or not. If Mo > is > > > benefic, Mo, Me can give very good results. > > > > > > B. Ma and Sa also form a rajayoga being lords of a kendra and a > kona > > > respectively. Word of caution, compare with one amongst Sa and Ra > is > > > strong to determine who will rule Aq (5H). > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sourav > > > > ===================================================================== > > > > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" > <itsmekk2> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sourav, > > > > Namaskar! > > > > > > > > That was a good explaination, and Article refered in COVA is > indeed > > > a > > > > very good article. With this, Let me present clear picture on > the > > > > topic. In Addition to mentioned planetary combinations, If > there is > > > > parivartan in 4L and 9L, and conj of 4L-5L with 10L in 9th, > What > > > does > > > > that total scenario suggest? How do we interpret that? > > > > > > > > In the case I am considering, For Libra Lagna, Sat is 4L-5L > > > > (Yogakaraka) in conj with 10L (Moon) in 9th. At the same time, > 9L > > > Merc > > > > is in 4th, Along with exalted 2L-7L Mars. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > - Kaushik. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "feynman_8" > <sourav12@h...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kaushik, > > > > > Namaskar. I am not a guru but let me answer your > > > > > question. 5L and 10L associating is another form of Dharma- > > > > > karmadhipaty yoga. Please read Crux of Vedic Astrology (COVA) > > > > > article 13.5.2. I can't say that this is the 2 level of DKY; > I > > > will > > > > > prefer to call it a variant. > > > > > > > > > > Let us understand why 10L and 5L association also causes such > a > > > yoga > > > > > as is caused by the association of 10L and 9L. 10H represents > our > > > > > karma and 9H our dharma. Dharma is the righteous action that, > if > > > > > performed solely and perfectly, will lead us towards the > final > > > goal > > > > > of emancipation. Hence the name of dharma-karmadhipaty yoga. > Now, > > > if > > > > > our intelligence (buddhi) is purified and the mind (manas) is > > > under > > > > > control, then the yoga of 10L and 5L means that our purified > > > buddhi > > > > > is controlling and directing our actions. This is very good > and > > > will > > > > > lead along the same path as directed by dharma. Hence 10L and > 5L > > > > > association causes another variation of the DKY. I don't know > if > > > > > there is another different name for it. > > > > > > > > > > 10L and 4L association is known as Gyana yoga. It leads to > Moksha. > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > ================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" > > > <itsmekk2> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurus, > > > > > > > > > > > > I read somewhere, Conj of 5L and 10L forms second level of > DKY. > > > > > Just > > > > > > wondering, What is learned astrologers opinion on that? If > yes, > > > > > What > > > > > > is the defination of 2nd level DKY here? And Is it that 4L > and > > > 10L > > > > > > conj also causes some great Raj Yoga? > > > > > > > > > > > > - Kaushik > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Mike, Namaskar. Any yoga functions on the basis of its location, on the strength of the luminaries (Su and Mo) and also on on various other factors. I refer you to COVA 10-th chapter for further clarification and understanding. For example, a yoga (such as DKY or any other rajayoga) formed in the 7th house of foreign places, fame, and communication will involve these significances while fructifying. In this way treat a yoga with all its 'back drop'. A sign is a situation or 'colouring', a house is a particular area of life and planets as people or other people's actions. Manifested existence is primarily two-fold: purusha and prakriti. Planets represent the purusha part and signs represent the prakriti part. Whenever there is a purusha-prakriti combination, there bound to be some manifestation or activity. Think in this way. Hope this helps, Sourav ==================================================================== vedic astrology, "Michael Travass" <mtravass@t...> wrote: > Hi Sourav, > > Thanks for your excellent information. > > What can be foretold of Aq Lagna with DKY of 9 and 10 in 10th bhava and > another form of DKY i.e. 5 and 10th lord in 10th bhava (Me, Ve and > Mars)? > > Mike > > > > > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Sourav Chowdhury > Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:28 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: dharmakarmadhipathi yoga > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Dear Kaushik, > Namaskar. > A. Consider yogas after parivartana. So, here, after considering > parivartana, Me is with Mo in the 9H and Sa is in own sign (Cp) in > 4H. This shows a clearn DKY by Mo and Me. Now we have to see the > degree of closeness between Mo and Me to determine how effective this > is. The only negative thing is that Me is also 12L and can give some > kind of loss (or even a strong desire for moksha as 12H stands Mo). > We have to see if Mo is a functionally benefic here or not. If Mo is > benefic, Mo, Me can give very good results. > > B. Ma and Sa also form a rajayoga being lords of a kendra and a kona > respectively. Word of caution, compare with one amongst Sa and Ra is > strong to determine who will rule Aq (5H). > > Hope this helps, > > Regards, > > Sourav > ===================================================================== > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" <itsmekk2> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sourav, > > Namaskar! > > > > That was a good explaination, and Article refered in COVA is indeed > a > > very good article. With this, Let me present clear picture on the > > topic. In Addition to mentioned planetary combinations, If there is > > parivartan in 4L and 9L, and conj of 4L-5L with 10L in 9th, What > does > > that total scenario suggest? How do we interpret that? > > > > In the case I am considering, For Libra Lagna, Sat is 4L-5L > > (Yogakaraka) in conj with 10L (Moon) in 9th. At the same time, 9L > Merc > > is in 4th, Along with exalted 2L-7L Mars. > > > > Regards, > > - Kaushik. > > > > vedic astrology, "feynman_8" <sourav12@h...> > wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > Dear Kaushik, > > > Namaskar. I am not a guru but let me answer your > > > question. 5L and 10L associating is another form of Dharma- > > > karmadhipaty yoga. Please read Crux of Vedic Astrology (COVA) > > > article 13.5.2. I can't say that this is the 2 level of DKY; I > will > > > prefer to call it a variant. > > > > > > Let us understand why 10L and 5L association also causes such a > yoga > > > as is caused by the association of 10L and 9L. 10H represents our > > > karma and 9H our dharma. Dharma is the righteous action that, if > > > performed solely and perfectly, will lead us towards the final > goal > > > of emancipation. Hence the name of dharma-karmadhipaty yoga. Now, > if > > > our intelligence (buddhi) is purified and the mind (manas) is > under > > > control, then the yoga of 10L and 5L means that our purified > buddhi > > > is controlling and directing our actions. This is very good and > will > > > lead along the same path as directed by dharma. Hence 10L and 5L > > > association causes another variation of the DKY. I don't know if > > > there is another different name for it. > > > > > > 10L and 4L association is known as Gyana yoga. It leads to Moksha. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sourav > > > ================================================================== > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" > <itsmekk2> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Gurus, > > > > > > > > I read somewhere, Conj of 5L and 10L forms second level of DKY. > > > Just > > > > wondering, What is learned astrologers opinion on that? If yes, > > > What > > > > is the defination of 2nd level DKY here? And Is it that 4L and > 10L > > > > conj also causes some great Raj Yoga? > > > > > > > > - Kaushik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Kaushik, Namaskar. Yes, there are a number of auspicious yogas, of which I named only a few. Also, because of parivartana, I took the positions after parivartana consideration. However, let me also mention that there are authors who take both positions and determine yogas in both before and after parivartana consideration. I tend to take parivartana first and then any other consideration. Try both and see which one works most of the time. Regards, Sourav =================================================================== vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" <itsmekk2> wrote: > > Dear Sourav, > Namaskar! > > It sure helps. Very interesting clarifications. Attaching details with > this posting, Since there is Amala and Vasumati yoga's also seems to > be present from moon. which in combination makes 10th significance > quite strong. Also some other aspects like AK, AmK together, 6th in 6 etc. > > 22nd Feb 1975. > 23.19 PM. > 19N12, 73E06. > > Regards, > - Kaushik. > > vedic astrology, "Sourav Chowdhury" > <sourav12@h...> wrote: > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > Dear Kaushik, > > Namaskar. No misunderstanding. I considered position > > after parivartana. So now, Me is in 9H and Sa in 4H. > > According to what you said, there are several yogas. > > > > One mahapurusha yoga (exltd. Ma is a kendra), one parivartana > > Rajayoga (between Me and Sa) and One DKY (due to Me and Mo). > > > > Hope this clarifies, > > > > Regards, > > > > Sourav > > ================================================================ > > > > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" <itsmekk2> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sourav, > > > Namaskar! > > > > > > There is slight misunderstanding. Merc (9L-12L) is in 4th and > > > Sat(4L-5L) is in 9th. Sat is joining moon (10L) in 9th. > > > > > > Regards, > > > - Kaushik. > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Sourav Chowdhury" > > > <sourav12@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > > > Dear Kaushik, > > > > Namaskar. > > > > A. Consider yogas after parivartana. So, here, after considering > > > > parivartana, Me is with Mo in the 9H and Sa is in own sign (Cp) > > in > > > > 4H. This shows a clearn DKY by Mo and Me. Now we have to see the > > > > degree of closeness between Mo and Me to determine how effective > > this > > > > is. The only negative thing is that Me is also 12L and can give > > some > > > > kind of loss (or even a strong desire for moksha as 12H stands > > Mo). > > > > We have to see if Mo is a functionally benefic here or not. If Mo > > is > > > > benefic, Mo, Me can give very good results. > > > > > > > > B. Ma and Sa also form a rajayoga being lords of a kendra and a > > kona > > > > respectively. Word of caution, compare with one amongst Sa and Ra > > is > > > > strong to determine who will rule Aq (5H). > > > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > ===================================================================== > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" > > <itsmekk2> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sourav, > > > > > Namaskar! > > > > > > > > > > That was a good explaination, and Article refered in COVA is > > indeed > > > > a > > > > > very good article. With this, Let me present clear picture on > > the > > > > > topic. In Addition to mentioned planetary combinations, If > > there is > > > > > parivartan in 4L and 9L, and conj of 4L-5L with 10L in 9th, > > What > > > > does > > > > > that total scenario suggest? How do we interpret that? > > > > > > > > > > In the case I am considering, For Libra Lagna, Sat is 4L-5L > > > > > (Yogakaraka) in conj with 10L (Moon) in 9th. At the same time, > > 9L > > > > Merc > > > > > is in 4th, Along with exalted 2L-7L Mars. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > - Kaushik. > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "feynman_8" > > <sourav12@h...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kaushik, > > > > > > Namaskar. I am not a guru but let me answer your > > > > > > question. 5L and 10L associating is another form of Dharma- > > > > > > karmadhipaty yoga. Please read Crux of Vedic Astrology (COVA) > > > > > > article 13.5.2. I can't say that this is the 2 level of DKY; > > I > > > > will > > > > > > prefer to call it a variant. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us understand why 10L and 5L association also causes such > > a > > > > yoga > > > > > > as is caused by the association of 10L and 9L. 10H represents > > our > > > > > > karma and 9H our dharma. Dharma is the righteous action that, > > if > > > > > > performed solely and perfectly, will lead us towards the > > final > > > > goal > > > > > > of emancipation. Hence the name of dharma-karmadhipaty yoga. > > Now, > > > > if > > > > > > our intelligence (buddhi) is purified and the mind (manas) is > > > > under > > > > > > control, then the yoga of 10L and 5L means that our purified > > > > buddhi > > > > > > is controlling and directing our actions. This is very good > > and > > > > will > > > > > > lead along the same path as directed by dharma. Hence 10L and > > 5L > > > > > > association causes another variation of the DKY. I don't know > > if > > > > > > there is another different name for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > 10L and 4L association is known as Gyana yoga. It leads to > > Moksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > ================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" > > > > <itsmekk2> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurus, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read somewhere, Conj of 5L and 10L forms second level of > > DKY. > > > > > > Just > > > > > > > wondering, What is learned astrologers opinion on that? If > > yes, > > > > > > What > > > > > > > is the defination of 2nd level DKY here? And Is it that 4L > > and > > > > 10L > > > > > > > conj also causes some great Raj Yoga? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Kaushik > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Richa-ji, Namaskar. No question of excusing. You can and should ask any kind of question. However, I recommend reading the relevant portions from BPHS and other books first, so that you are clear about where Maharshis stand. That will give you good guidence. All other discussions are our interpretations and stand secondary to Maharshi's teachings. About your question, I refer you to Messages 54910 and 54921 for what respected Suryavishwanandan-ji and I discussed. Hope this helps, Regards, Sourav =============================================================== vedic astrology, Richa Gupta <richas_lucky> wrote: > Dear Sir Saurav Ji Namastein In reality you hv described nicely.I just want to ask in Taurus lagna what make dharmakarmadhipati yoga...... > > Pls excuse me if I asked wrong question................. > Thanxs and regards > Dedicated to Astrology > Richa > > Sourav Chowdhury <sourav12@h...> wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Dear Mike, > Namaskar. Any yoga functions on the basis of its location, > on the strength of the luminaries (Su and Mo) and also on on various > other factors. I refer you to COVA 10-th chapter for further > clarification and understanding. > For example, a yoga (such as DKY or any other rajayoga) formed in the > 7th house of foreign places, fame, and communication will involve > these significances while fructifying. In this way treat a yoga with > all its 'back drop'. A sign is a situation or 'colouring', a house is > a particular area of life and planets as people or other people's > actions. Manifested existence is primarily two-fold: purusha and > prakriti. Planets represent the purusha part and signs represent the > prakriti part. Whenever there is a purusha-prakriti combination, > there bound to be some manifestation or activity. Think in this way. > > Hope this helps, > > Sourav > ==================================================================== > vedic astrology, "Michael Travass" > <mtravass@t...> wrote: > > Hi Sourav, > > > > Thanks for your excellent information. > > > > What can be foretold of Aq Lagna with DKY of 9 and 10 in 10th bhava > and > > another form of DKY i.e. 5 and 10th lord in 10th bhava (Me, Ve and > > Mars)? > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Sourav > Chowdhury > > Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:28 PM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Re: dharmakarmadhipathi yoga > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > Dear Kaushik, > > Namaskar. > > A. Consider yogas after parivartana. So, here, after considering > > parivartana, Me is with Mo in the 9H and Sa is in own sign (Cp) in > > 4H. This shows a clearn DKY by Mo and Me. Now we have to see the > > degree of closeness between Mo and Me to determine how effective > this > > is. The only negative thing is that Me is also 12L and can give > some > > kind of loss (or even a strong desire for moksha as 12H stands Mo). > > We have to see if Mo is a functionally benefic here or not. If Mo > is > > benefic, Mo, Me can give very good results. > > > > B. Ma and Sa also form a rajayoga being lords of a kendra and a > kona > > respectively. Word of caution, compare with one amongst Sa and Ra > is > > strong to determine who will rule Aq (5H). > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Regards, > > > > Sourav > > > ===================================================================== > > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" <itsmekk2> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sourav, > > > Namaskar! > > > > > > That was a good explaination, and Article refered in COVA is > indeed > > a > > > very good article. With this, Let me present clear picture on the > > > topic. In Addition to mentioned planetary combinations, If there > is > > > parivartan in 4L and 9L, and conj of 4L-5L with 10L in 9th, What > > does > > > that total scenario suggest? How do we interpret that? > > > > > > In the case I am considering, For Libra Lagna, Sat is 4L-5L > > > (Yogakaraka) in conj with 10L (Moon) in 9th. At the same time, 9L > > Merc > > > is in 4th, Along with exalted 2L-7L Mars. > > > > > > Regards, > > > - Kaushik. > > > > > > vedic astrology, "feynman_8" > <sourav12@h...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > > > Dear Kaushik, > > > > Namaskar. I am not a guru but let me answer your > > > > question. 5L and 10L associating is another form of Dharma- > > > > karmadhipaty yoga. Please read Crux of Vedic Astrology (COVA) > > > > article 13.5.2. I can't say that this is the 2 level of DKY; I > > will > > > > prefer to call it a variant. > > > > > > > > Let us understand why 10L and 5L association also causes such a > > yoga > > > > as is caused by the association of 10L and 9L. 10H represents > our > > > > karma and 9H our dharma. Dharma is the righteous action that, if > > > > performed solely and perfectly, will lead us towards the final > > goal > > > > of emancipation. Hence the name of dharma-karmadhipaty yoga. > Now, > > if > > > > our intelligence (buddhi) is purified and the mind (manas) is > > under > > > > control, then the yoga of 10L and 5L means that our purified > > buddhi > > > > is controlling and directing our actions. This is very good and > > will > > > > lead along the same path as directed by dharma. Hence 10L and 5L > > > > association causes another variation of the DKY. I don't know if > > > > there is another different name for it. > > > > > > > > 10L and 4L association is known as Gyana yoga. It leads to > Moksha. > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > ================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" > > <itsmekk2> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurus, > > > > > > > > > > I read somewhere, Conj of 5L and 10L forms second level of > DKY. > > > > Just > > > > > wondering, What is learned astrologers opinion on that? If > yes, > > > > What > > > > > is the defination of 2nd level DKY here? And Is it that 4L > and > > 10L > > > > > conj also causes some great Raj Yoga? > > > > > > > > > > - Kaushik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Dear Sourav, Namaskar! Actually this is the first time, I came across such a analysis on parivartana. I have always used them as separate yogas. In that chart I mentioned earlier, planets seems to be connected with each other by one yoga or other, well except Sun and Rahu. And that I found interesting from analysis point of view. Regards, - Kaushik. vedic astrology, "Sourav Chowdhury" <sourav12@h...> wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Dear Kaushik, > Namaskar. Yes, there are a number of auspicious yogas, > of which I named only a few. Also, because of parivartana, I took the > positions after parivartana consideration. However, let me also > mention that there are authors who take both positions and determine > yogas in both before and after parivartana consideration. I tend to > take parivartana first and then any other consideration. Try both and > see which one works most of the time. > > Regards, > > Sourav > =================================================================== > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" <itsmekk2> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sourav, > > Namaskar! > > > > It sure helps. Very interesting clarifications. Attaching details > with > > this posting, Since there is Amala and Vasumati yoga's also seems to > > be present from moon. which in combination makes 10th significance > > quite strong. Also some other aspects like AK, AmK together, 6th in > 6 etc. > > > > 22nd Feb 1975. > > 23.19 PM. > > 19N12, 73E06. > > > > Regards, > > - Kaushik. > > > > vedic astrology, "Sourav Chowdhury" > > <sourav12@h...> wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > Dear Kaushik, > > > Namaskar. No misunderstanding. I considered position > > > after parivartana. So now, Me is in 9H and Sa in 4H. > > > According to what you said, there are several yogas. > > > > > > One mahapurusha yoga (exltd. Ma is a kendra), one parivartana > > > Rajayoga (between Me and Sa) and One DKY (due to Me and Mo). > > > > > > Hope this clarifies, > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sourav > > > ================================================================ > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" > <itsmekk2> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sourav, > > > > Namaskar! > > > > > > > > There is slight misunderstanding. Merc (9L-12L) is in 4th and > > > > Sat(4L-5L) is in 9th. Sat is joining moon (10L) in 9th. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > - Kaushik. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Sourav Chowdhury" > > > > <sourav12@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kaushik, > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > A. Consider yogas after parivartana. So, here, after > considering > > > > > parivartana, Me is with Mo in the 9H and Sa is in own sign > (Cp) > > > in > > > > > 4H. This shows a clearn DKY by Mo and Me. Now we have to see > the > > > > > degree of closeness between Mo and Me to determine how > effective > > > this > > > > > is. The only negative thing is that Me is also 12L and can > give > > > some > > > > > kind of loss (or even a strong desire for moksha as 12H > stands > > > Mo). > > > > > We have to see if Mo is a functionally benefic here or not. > If Mo > > > is > > > > > benefic, Mo, Me can give very good results. > > > > > > > > > > B. Ma and Sa also form a rajayoga being lords of a kendra and > a > > > kona > > > > > respectively. Word of caution, compare with one amongst Sa > and Ra > > > is > > > > > strong to determine who will rule Aq (5H). > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > > ===================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" > > > <itsmekk2> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sourav, > > > > > > Namaskar! > > > > > > > > > > > > That was a good explaination, and Article refered in COVA > is > > > indeed > > > > > a > > > > > > very good article. With this, Let me present clear picture > on > > > the > > > > > > topic. In Addition to mentioned planetary combinations, If > > > there is > > > > > > parivartan in 4L and 9L, and conj of 4L-5L with 10L in 9th, > > > What > > > > > does > > > > > > that total scenario suggest? How do we interpret that? > > > > > > > > > > > > In the case I am considering, For Libra Lagna, Sat is 4L-5L > > > > > > (Yogakaraka) in conj with 10L (Moon) in 9th. At the same > time, > > > 9L > > > > > Merc > > > > > > is in 4th, Along with exalted 2L-7L Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > - Kaushik. > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "feynman_8" > > > <sourav12@h...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kaushik, > > > > > > > Namaskar. I am not a guru but let me answer your > > > > > > > question. 5L and 10L associating is another form of > Dharma- > > > > > > > karmadhipaty yoga. Please read Crux of Vedic Astrology > (COVA) > > > > > > > article 13.5.2. I can't say that this is the 2 level of > DKY; > > > I > > > > > will > > > > > > > prefer to call it a variant. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us understand why 10L and 5L association also causes > such > > > a > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > as is caused by the association of 10L and 9L. 10H > represents > > > our > > > > > > > karma and 9H our dharma. Dharma is the righteous action > that, > > > if > > > > > > > performed solely and perfectly, will lead us towards the > > > final > > > > > goal > > > > > > > of emancipation. Hence the name of dharma-karmadhipaty > yoga. > > > Now, > > > > > if > > > > > > > our intelligence (buddhi) is purified and the mind > (manas) is > > > > > under > > > > > > > control, then the yoga of 10L and 5L means that our > purified > > > > > buddhi > > > > > > > is controlling and directing our actions. This is very > good > > > and > > > > > will > > > > > > > lead along the same path as directed by dharma. Hence 10L > and > > > 5L > > > > > > > association causes another variation of the DKY. I don't > know > > > if > > > > > > > there is another different name for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10L and 4L association is known as Gyana yoga. It leads > to > > > Moksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > > > ================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" > > > > > <itsmekk2> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurus, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read somewhere, Conj of 5L and 10L forms second level > of > > > DKY. > > > > > > > Just > > > > > > > > wondering, What is learned astrologers opinion on that? > If > > > yes, > > > > > > > What > > > > > > > > is the defination of 2nd level DKY here? And Is it that > 4L > > > and > > > > > 10L > > > > > > > > conj also causes some great Raj Yoga? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Kaushik > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Dear Gurus Namaskar , I am having exchange of 9L and 10L in my chart and 9L is placed with 11L in 10th house , what should be the effect ? lagna is dhanu. Pankaj Upadhyay vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" <itsmekk2> wrote: > > Dear Sourav, > Namaskar! > > There is slight misunderstanding. Merc (9L-12L) is in 4th and > Sat(4L-5L) is in 9th. Sat is joining moon (10L) in 9th. > > Regards, > - Kaushik. > > vedic astrology, "Sourav Chowdhury" > <sourav12@h...> wrote: > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > Dear Kaushik, > > Namaskar. > > A. Consider yogas after parivartana. So, here, after considering > > parivartana, Me is with Mo in the 9H and Sa is in own sign (Cp) in > > 4H. This shows a clearn DKY by Mo and Me. Now we have to see the > > degree of closeness between Mo and Me to determine how effective this > > is. The only negative thing is that Me is also 12L and can give some > > kind of loss (or even a strong desire for moksha as 12H stands Mo). > > We have to see if Mo is a functionally benefic here or not. If Mo is > > benefic, Mo, Me can give very good results. > > > > B. Ma and Sa also form a rajayoga being lords of a kendra and a kona > > respectively. Word of caution, compare with one amongst Sa and Ra is > > strong to determine who will rule Aq (5H). > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Regards, > > > > Sourav > > ===================================================================== > > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" <itsmekk2> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sourav, > > > Namaskar! > > > > > > That was a good explaination, and Article refered in COVA is indeed > > a > > > very good article. With this, Let me present clear picture on the > > > topic. In Addition to mentioned planetary combinations, If there is > > > parivartan in 4L and 9L, and conj of 4L-5L with 10L in 9th, What > > does > > > that total scenario suggest? How do we interpret that? > > > > > > In the case I am considering, For Libra Lagna, Sat is 4L-5L > > > (Yogakaraka) in conj with 10L (Moon) in 9th. At the same time, 9L > > Merc > > > is in 4th, Along with exalted 2L-7L Mars. > > > > > > Regards, > > > - Kaushik. > > > > > > vedic astrology, "feynman_8" <sourav12@h...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > > > Dear Kaushik, > > > > Namaskar. I am not a guru but let me answer your > > > > question. 5L and 10L associating is another form of Dharma- > > > > karmadhipaty yoga. Please read Crux of Vedic Astrology (COVA) > > > > article 13.5.2. I can't say that this is the 2 level of DKY; I > > will > > > > prefer to call it a variant. > > > > > > > > Let us understand why 10L and 5L association also causes such a > > yoga > > > > as is caused by the association of 10L and 9L. 10H represents our > > > > karma and 9H our dharma. Dharma is the righteous action that, if > > > > performed solely and perfectly, will lead us towards the final > > goal > > > > of emancipation. Hence the name of dharma-karmadhipaty yoga. Now, > > if > > > > our intelligence (buddhi) is purified and the mind (manas) is > > under > > > > control, then the yoga of 10L and 5L means that our purified > > buddhi > > > > is controlling and directing our actions. This is very good and > > will > > > > lead along the same path as directed by dharma. Hence 10L and 5L > > > > association causes another variation of the DKY. I don't know if > > > > there is another different name for it. > > > > > > > > 10L and 4L association is known as Gyana yoga. It leads to Moksha. > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > ================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "itsmekk2" > > <itsmekk2> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurus, > > > > > > > > > > I read somewhere, Conj of 5L and 10L forms second level of DKY. > > > > Just > > > > > wondering, What is learned astrologers opinion on that? If yes, > > > > What > > > > > is the defination of 2nd level DKY here? And Is it that 4L and > > 10L > > > > > conj also causes some great Raj Yoga? > > > > > > > > > > - Kaushik > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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