Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 - Praveen Kumar vedic astrology 13, 04, 2005 9:26 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Namaste Visit --> 2ndNearFatalAccidentcase/Principle is working in TOTO I shall again recommend only 7 CK. Whom you have seen giving wonderful predictions on unknown horoscopes ? Believe then only. I have seen (at least so far major trends are concerned) and that is why I follow his words. In post-mortem, you can prove anything from any horoscope. Now another point. You said the native prospered tremendously in last 5-6 years of Sat dasa. Please give exact details / facts without subjective bias as Sat is 8th lord and we can learn here. Write about other aspects of his life during Saturn dasa, other than finance. Please give following details for verifying the chart:1) Source of TOB, that is recorded meticulously, hospital record, rectified etc.2) Margin of error possible.3) Some past trends / facts / events. You may write about your nature, education, profession, marriage / spouse if married / relationship, good / bad periods of past, parents' profession / status, health etc. Praveen Kumar (Mumbai) - Utpal Pathak vedic astrology 13, 04, 2005 11:49 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Namaste Visit --> 2ndNearFatalAccidentcase/Principle is working in TOTO Dear Praveen Kumar, This is a issue which is not getting settled with me. I was only having knowledge of 7 Charkarka scheme before i came in contact with SJC-Mumbai Conference. Infact i was under impression that Jupiter in my chart is AMATYAKARKA (7 scheme) and now jupiter mahadasha has started from nov-2004 which should boost my career. I started my independent business in April 2004. After knowing 8CK scheme, i understood that My AMK is Rahu & not Jupiter. Now intresting thing in favour of 8 CK scheme is that JU becomes BK and indicator of "Guru" in the life and if i tell you my personal experience then I "Guru" came in my life only after My Ju mahadasha started. i.e. I accepted Thakur Shri RamKrishna as my Guru. I also came in contact with SJC only in Jan 2005. so the above things are in favour of 8CK scheme. even if we see The "Natives" horoscope for whom i have given details then one point is notable that he prosperoured tremendeously during last 5/6 years in Saturn Mahadasha and Saturn becomes his AMK as per 8CK scheme. I am going thro' various horoscopes and it may take some time to practically see the usefulness of 7 or 8ck. My own Guru mahadasha may also make things some what clear but it'll take time. regards, PathakPraveen Kumar <chunnu2001 (AT) vsnl (DOT) net> wrote: Your D-10 analysis is very good and may be correct. See mars and Sat aspect 10th house in Rasi chart too. But, use D-10 only for confirmation. Also, use 7 charakarakas without Rahu. This is followed by Shri K.N.Rao and is what I have faith in. Praveen Kumar (Mumbai) - utpal pathak vedic astrology 12, 04, 2005 2:06 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Namaste Visit --> 2nd Near FatalAccidentcase/Principle is working in TOTO Namaste Praveen Kumar,Recorded TOB is 8.43 PM.I know the native only very recently due to business dealings. Hene I only know his Nature of Business very well.BUSINESS : - ELECTRICAL CONTROL PANEL MFG. + LICENCED ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR.I rectified the time on the bases of D10 as I felt Leo Lagna in D10 suits more to his activities due to following points1) 3rd house has Mars-Ketu-Budha combination which can explain his Electriacal Contractor ship2) Mars & Saturn also aspects 10th which explains dealing in Electriacl as well as Iron work (Panel of Mild Steel). It may also justify control over Labour class.3) All the 3 houses of desires are having planets and he is in business from young age.4) Saturn as Amatyakarka placed in Lagna.correct me for any mis-understanding on my partUtpalvedic astrology, Praveen Kumar <chunnu2001@v...> wrote:> On what basis you had added 29 seconds ? Please give original TOB too. The horoscope appears to be correct.> > See: > 1) 4th lord with Mars> 2) Venus with Mars> 3) From Moon, Venus-Mars in the 4th.> > Praveen Kumar (Mumbai)> - > utpal pathak > vedic astrology > 11, 04, 2005 8:38 PM> [vedic astrology] Namaste Visit --> 2nd Near Fatal Accident case/Principle is working in TOTO> > > > > Dear Visti,> Namaste,> > I am Providing you another case of Car accident where Mahadasha & > Antardasha both principles have worked.> > 2nd Near Fatal car accident case> > Data of the Native ¡V 18.12.1965, 8.43.29 PM, 75E49, 26N55 India.> > The native is a Businessman & had a Head On Collision with another > Car while he was going in his car. It was a very serious accident . > the Native was in ICU for 8 to 10 days. Lot of bones have broken & > injuries on face also but now recovering & may start doing activities > in another Month¡¦s time.> > Accident - 10th January 2005.> > Shool Mahadasha ¡V TAURUS> Antardasha - TAURUS> > 1) Saturn is there in 5th from AL. 3rd from AL has Sun & 8th > from AL has Rahu aspected by Mars. Hence accident possibility is there> 2) Taurus being the Mahadasha is justified as Taurus is the > rashi which is the center of RUDRA Yog i.e. Taurus is aspected by > Moon, Mars & Venus and hence conclusively dangerous for accidents. -"³ > Mahadasha Principle is working> 3) Antardasha is also of Taurus "³ 8th lord from Taurus > (Mahadasha rashi) Jupiter aspects Taurus in D9 "³ Antardasha Principle > is working.> 4) It was a near fatal accident and cause lot of suffering to > the native "³ Rahu is in 8th from AL, It is also Atmakarka & Placed in > the Rashi which is completely influenced by Rudra Yog.> 5) Vehicle accident can be justified by involvement of Venus & > Moon with reference to the 8th house from AL.> > I congratulate you after giving this analysis as you have provided us > a really important research. Using which one can really guide people > for any forth coming danger.> > With the 2 case studies, I am fairly confident about ¡¥Mahadasha¡¦ > principle, but for ¡§Antardasha¡¨ I may need to check few more as some > inconsistency is evident.> > I want to be absolutely sure for ¡§Antardsha¡¨ because this is a very > critical thing and before warning or guiding any body we need to be > very sure about our base of predicting the event.> > Correct me if I am wrong in understanding of the above case or > concept.> > Best regards,> > Utpal Pathak > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > Sponsor > > Children International > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > · Click Here to meet a Girl> And Give Her Hope > > · Click Here to meet a Boy> And Change His Life > > Learn More > > > > > > > > > > Links> > > vedic astrology/> > b.. To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > c.. Your use of Groups is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 I fully respect your views & recommendations. I am too young and can not match your experience & knowledge. I respect Shri K.N.Rao also but I am afraid I may not accept the ideas without testing it my self. I am whole hearted Admirer of Dr. B.V.Raman but i could not appreciate 'Raman Ayanmansha' on functional ground. The native did flourished as soon as Saturn / Venus period Started. Saturn is 8th lord & functional malefic but is well placed in 8th in Saral yoga and 11th from 10th. one more important point about saturn is that it is a Yogkarka from Chandra lagna which is also the Lagnesh. venus is despositor of moon and placed in 10th from 10th. I don't have the Details ready with me about the native but I'll get it and come back to you. regads, Pathak Praveen Kumar <chunnu2001 (AT) vsnl (DOT) net> wrote: - Praveen Kumar vedic astrology 13, 04, 2005 9:26 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Namaste Visit --> 2ndNearFatalAccidentcase/Principle is working in TOTO I shall again recommend only 7 CK. Whom you have seen giving wonderful predictions on unknown horoscopes ? Believe then only. I have seen (at least so far major trends are concerned) and that is why I follow his words. In post-mortem, you can prove anything from any horoscope. Now another point. You said the native prospered tremendously in last 5-6 years of Sat dasa. Please give exact details / facts without subjective bias as Sat is 8th lord and we can learn here. Write about other aspects of his life during Saturn dasa, other than finance. Please give following details for verifying the chart:1) Source of TOB, that is recorded meticulously, hospital record, rectified etc.2) Margin of error possible.3) Some past trends / facts / events. You may write about your nature, education, profession, marriage / spouse if married / relationship, good / bad periods of past, parents' profession / status, health etc. Praveen Kumar (Mumbai) - Utpal Pathak vedic astrology 13, 04, 2005 11:49 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Namaste Visit --> 2ndNearFatalAccidentcase/Principle is working in TOTO Dear Praveen Kumar, This is a issue which is not getting settled with me. I was only having knowledge of 7 Charkarka scheme before i came in contact with SJC-Mumbai Conference. Infact i was under impression that Jupiter in my chart is AMATYAKARKA (7 scheme) and now jupiter mahadasha has started from nov-2004 which should boost my career. I started my independent business in April 2004. After knowing 8CK scheme, i understood that My AMK is Rahu & not Jupiter. Now intresting thing in favour of 8 CK scheme is that JU becomes BK and indicator of "Guru" in the life and if i tell you my personal experience then I "Guru" came in my life only after My Ju mahadasha started. i.e. I accepted Thakur Shri RamKrishna as my Guru. I also came in contact with SJC only in Jan 2005. so the above things are in favour of 8CK scheme. even if we see The "Natives" horoscope for whom i have given details then one point is notable that he prosperoured tremendeously during last 5/6 years in Saturn Mahadasha and Saturn becomes his AMK as per 8CK scheme. I am going thro' various horoscopes and it may take some time to practically see the usefulness of 7 or 8ck. My own Guru mahadasha may also make things some what clear but it'll take time. regards, PathakPraveen Kumar <chunnu2001 (AT) vsnl (DOT) net> wrote: Your D-10 analysis is very good and may be correct. See mars and Sat aspect 10th house in Rasi chart too. But, use D-10 only for confirmation. Also, use 7 charakarakas without Rahu. This is followed by Shri K.N.Rao and is what I have faith in. Praveen Kumar (Mumbai) - utpal pathak vedic astrology 12, 04, 2005 2:06 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Namaste Visit --> 2nd Near FatalAccidentcase/Principle is working in TOTO Namaste Praveen Kumar,Recorded TOB is 8.43 PM.I know the native only very recently due to business dealings. Hene I only know his Nature of Business very well.BUSINESS : - ELECTRICAL CONTROL PANEL MFG. + LICENCED ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR.I rectified the time on the bases of D10 as I felt Leo Lagna in D10 suits more to his activities due to following points1) 3rd house has Mars-Ketu-Budha combination which can explain his Electriacal Contractor ship2) Mars & Saturn also aspects 10th which explains dealing in Electriacl as well as Iron work (Panel of Mild Steel). It may also justify control over Labour class.3) All the 3 houses of desires are having planets and he is in business from young age.4) Saturn as Amatyakarka placed in Lagna.correct me for any mis-understanding on my partUtpalvedic astrology, Praveen Kumar <chunnu2001@v...> wrote:> On what basis you had added 29 seconds ? Please give original TOB too. The horoscope appears to be correct.> > See: > 1) 4th lord with Mars> 2) Venus with Mars> 3) From Moon, Venus-Mars in the 4th.> > Praveen Kumar (Mumbai)> - > utpal pathak > To: vedic astrology > 11, 04, 2005 8:38 PM> Subject: [vedic astrology] Namaste Visit --> 2nd Near Fatal Accident case/Principle is working in TOTO> > > > > Dear Visti,> Namaste,> > I am Providing you another case of Car accident where Mahadasha & > Antardasha both principles have worked.> > 2nd Near Fatal car accident case> > Data of the Native ¡V 18.12.1965, 8.43.29 PM, 75E49, 26N55 India.> > The native is a Businessman & had a Head On Collision with another > Car while he was going in his car. It was a very serious accident . > the Native was in ICU for 8 to 10 days. Lot of bones have broken & > injuries on face also but now recovering & may start doing activities > in another Month¡¦s time.> > Accident - 10th January 2005.> > Shool Mahadasha ¡V TAURUS> Antardasha - TAURUS> > 1) Saturn is there in 5th from AL. 3rd from AL has Sun & 8th > from AL has Rahu aspected by Mars. Hence accident possibility is there> 2) Taurus being the Mahadasha is justified as Taurus is the > rashi which is the center of RUDRA Yog i.e. Taurus is aspected by > Moon, Mars & Venus and hence conclusively dangerous for accidents. -"³ > Mahadasha Principle is working> 3) Antardasha is also of Taurus "³ 8th lord from Taurus > (Mahadasha rashi) Jupiter aspects Taurus in D9 "³ Antardasha Principle > is working.> 4) It was a near fatal accident and cause lot of suffering to > the native "³ Rahu is in 8th from AL, It is also Atmakarka & Placed in > the Rashi which is completely influenced by Rudra Yog.> 5) Vehicle accident can be justified by involvement of Venus & > Moon with reference to the 8th house from AL.> > I congratulate you after giving this analysis as you have provided us > a really important research. Using which one can really guide people > for any forth coming danger.> > With the 2 case studies, I am fairly confident about ¡¥Mahadasha¡¦ > principle, but for ¡§Antardasha¡¨ I may need to check few more as some > inconsistency is evident.> > I want to be absolutely sure for ¡§Antardsha¡¨ because this is a very > critical thing and before warning or guiding any body we need to be > very sure about our base of predicting the event.> > Correct me if I am wrong in understanding of the above case or > concept.> > Best regards,> > Utpal Pathak > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > Sponsor > > Children International > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > · Click Here to meet a Girl> And Give Her Hope > > · Click Here to meet a Boy> And Change His Life > > Learn More > > > > > > > > > > Links> > > vedic astrology/> > b.. To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > c.. Your use of Groups is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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