Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Dear Guruji, Please find attached horoscope. Does it constitute Gajkeshari yoga ? What is effect to native with consideration of other plants? Thanks in advance for your spare time ... Satishashsam73 <ashsam73 > wrote: Dear Lakshmi,Yes its nice to hear from you too :=).Here Partha was timing the event of job loss and death (saved).It was said that the native stepped out for some coffee/sunshine and in the interim the factory caught fire and the native got saved.Lagna is Capricorn and sun vargottam so it means sun is in the first 3deg20. So it means sun is in upchaya from 8th house (own house). Without the 7 planets I dont know what the total bindu of Sun is and neither I can make out what MD is running and AD (I am refering to ayanamsa used which could make diff in dashas).I do not like to touch the event of death without full chart and fully rectified as death in my opinion is the most important event and also probably the most complex event that cant be judged just by 1 or 2 planets.For Makar lagna sun is lagna and in 1st 3deg20 and in nakshatra of sun, if its with more than 4 bindus then it might be eager to give results of 8th house one of them being death. Other thing is that Leo would be 10th house from 11th so it might also be eager to give some sudden gains like say gratuity or say insurance money or some kind of 8th house matters. If Sun is with less than 4 bindus then it will oppose 10th house but again I am unable to find out without other planets ....As per KAS when timing death it generally happens in the highest points for 8th house as per the worksheet thereby making it the most benefic event of the chart and selection of Mahadasha is very important.I agree if you are seeing from a selfish view points i.e. from "I" then it maybe considered malefic.. however keeping the "I" aside the person upon death is actually free from the world of moh and maya and maybe physical suffering.I guess its depends on the way one looks at it however for timing such an important death there must be a detailed method.However that being said.. I am still pondering on this one time event of death............ Cheers !!!Ashvedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Ash,> > Namaste. When viewed from the perspective of life, death is a daunting malefic experience, but when viewed from the perspective of after-life, death is a benefic new begining....> > But since we are discussing natal charts, where the focus is more on birth and life and not on death, I guess we consider death a malefic incident. But there can be worse experiences in life than death....like loss of face, loss of a loved person etc> > Nice to hear from you after a long time.> > Regards,> Lakshmi> > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:> > Dear Lakshmi, Partha et all,> > Intersting case.> Partha, is it possible to post the chart.> > I have a basic quesiton. How are u all consider the event of death. > Is it a benefic event or a malefic event ?> > Cheers !!!> Ash> > > --- In vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Dear Partha,> > > > Thanks for giving this case...I think it sort of proves what i had > mentioned in a separate mail to Pathak ji. That sun and moon are > never be malefic for matters of ayurdaya...but in other matters they > can be so. The example you gave is a clincher, because the native > lost his job / livelihood, but lived on to tell the story.> > > > Regards,> > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > Partha Sarathy <partvinu@g...> wrote:> > Dear Lakshmi ji> > > > Sun and moon could have been exempted from malefic 8th lordship, as> > Atma and manah are not the "dhatus" that can be corrupted.> > > > Now coming to Makara lagna, i have seen a case where sun was > conjunct> > the lagna degree. Sun is vargottama , so is the lagna. I predicted > to> > this person in 98 that he may have trouble in job,.> > He came to me in 2002 and told me that indeed he did have trouble. > But> > the story goes like this, the person was sitting in his cabin when > he> > felt like going out to feel the warmth of sun and have a cup of> > coffee. The factory got fire, and many people died. he escaped. Now> > tell me is sun malefic or benefic .> > best wishes> > partha> > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:28:35 -0800 (PST), lakshmi ramesh> > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > Namaste Partha and Pathak ji,> > > > > > My moon is thoroughly afflicted being conjunct Saturn, and > aspected by Mars> > > and Rahu. Yet, as Partha pointed out, the strength of Jupiter, > who is the> > > dispositor of both moon and saturn seemed to have ensured the > good results.> > > > > > I do agree that for Dhanur lagna people, Moon, despite being the > 8th lord,> > > may not be that dire a malefic because of the friendly > relationship he> > > shares with Jupiter, but will it be equally so in the case of > Makara lagna> > > and 8th lordship of Sun?> > > > > > Regards,> > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Utpal> > > > > > Good point. That is what i wanted to hear. When rishi says that > 8th > > > lordship is exempted, we have to bear in mind the afflictions > also.> > > Here in your friend's case there are no afflictions, thus he > escaped. > > > If with any other afflictions, there would have been the problems.> > > I have a number of Dhanu lagna cases, and i see moon first. One > such > > > case has Moon in fourth house in digbala, but with saturn. His > mother > > > expired within months.> > > Another guy has moon in 3rd house aspected by Mangal, Shukra, > Budha > > > from Simha rasi. that is the 7th aspect. She is a well known > lady, > > > and is in All India Radio. Many practical cases give us more > > > knowledge than book knowledge. > > > best wishes> > > partha> > > > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > > > > > > Namaste Parthaji,> > > > > > > > Yes sir, you are very right when you ask me to check Affliction > to > > > > Moon.> > > > > > > > I just wanted to propose a point that for Dhanu Lagna, if Moon > is > > > > UNAfflicted, may give very good results even if not involved in > > > > Gajakesari yoga.> > > > > > > > with reference to your suggetions, The natives moon is > UNafflicted > > > > in lagna with no planetory expects and 11 th from Guru & sun. > there > > > > are no benefics in Dual rashi except Moon.> > > > > > > > Saturn becomes first rate Marka for Dhanu along with Venus and > its > > > > affliction to moon may have brought the Evil lordship of Moon > to > > > > fructification in evil way and hampered the Karktatva.> > > > correct me if i am wrong> > > > > > > > namaskar> > > > Utpal> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Hello Utpal> > > > > > > > > > Yes, 8th lordship for sun and moon is exempted by classics. > > > > Parasara > > > > > Rishi says that only Venus is a malefic for Dhanu lagna.> > > > > I have moon in kanya rasi in 10th house. I had four to five > > > > > accidents, and eye problems, and also mother expired during > moon > > > > > dasa. Moon is alone but aspected by saturn. So i wonder about > > > your > > > > > statement on moon dasa for you friend. Just check his chart, > and > > > > see > > > > > if there are benefics in dual signs. And also note the > aspects if > > > > any.> > > > > best wishes> > > > > partha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th > lordship > > > > > doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or Moon > > > > doesn't > > > > > give Malefic results as 8th lord.> > > > > > > > > > > > you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon > dasha > > > > > even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good > results > > > > of > > > > > Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a great > yog > > > > > capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar case > > > > without > > > > > any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for > whom i > > > > > worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his > Moon is > > > > in > > > > > Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with > Guru. > > > > > still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & > > > > > flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious > > > vehicles, > > > > > great house etc..)> > > > > > > > > > > > best regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > Pathak> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Jyothi,> > > > > > > > > > > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon> > > > > > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed> > > > > > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was> > > > > > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful> > > > > > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I> > > > > > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha> > > > > > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra> > > > > > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata> > > > > > much much later!> > > > > > > > > > > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully> > > > > > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i> > > > > > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this> > > > > > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close> > > > > > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up> > > > > > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > > > > > > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved> > > > > > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are> > > > > > strong in my chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > --------Original Message -------> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many> > > > > > > people including my > > > > > > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But> > > > > > > they dont have the > > > > > > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of> > > > > > > as the effects of > > > > > > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live> > > > > > > who doesnt have > > > > > > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what> > > > > > > combination of > > > > > > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so> > > > > > > much importance is > > > > > > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth> > > > > > > lord. But one of > > > > > > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the> > > > > > > luckiest of all > > > > > > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India> > > > > > > because of his amazing > > > > > > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth> > > > > > > which is considered > > > > > > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra.> > > > > > > In his chart, the > > > > > > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the> > > > > > > usual rules or yogas > > > > > > > > that are said to give great comfort and success.> > > > > > > Besides, I have > > > > > > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great> > > > > > > yogas, but still they > > > > > > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary,> > > > > > > I have also seen > > > > > > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha> > > > > > > yogas leading a normal > > > > > > > > life without much success. > > > > > > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to> > > > > > > think that actually > > > > > > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate> > > > > > > ones success. Am I > > > > > > > > right to think so ? 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