2-Sameer, what is kuja dosha ? and my Mars/8th house?, > Mark Kincaid

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Due to my sensitive relationship with this individual, I cannot

share the birth details at this time. In fact, I have to get the

details from the person directly. Last time I saw her horoscope made

by some other astrologer.

 

I know this kind of data would have helped the group members for a

research. But, at this time I cannot give the details. Please excuse

me.

 

Regards,

Satya Sai Kolachina

 

vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar"

<sarajit@s...> wrote:

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Dear Satya,

>

> Can you please let us know the birth details of the person under

> consideration? Also tell us the period of death. I would like to

see whether

> it was Mars who was involved during that time or something else.

>

> Best Wishes

> Sarajit

>

> _____

>

> satyakola [skolachi@h...]

> Sunday, March 27, 2005 11:57 PM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] 2-Sameer, Re: what is kuja dosha ? and

my

> Mars/8th house?, > Mark Kincaid

>

>

> I have a close relation, whose husband died 8 months after

marriage

> in a terrible accident, burnt to death in high temp. melted steel.

> She has Mars in second house, and they did not check Kuja dosha

> before marriage. Aspect of Mars on the 8th house here indicates

> burining in high temp liquid. There was no Jupiter's aspect on the

> 7th or 8th house.

>

> In her horoscope, Mars is neither exalted, nor debilitated. Both

her

> 7th and 8th house were afflicted heavily. However, I would also

> consider Mars as enemic to married life if placed in the second

> house.

>

> Regards,

> Satya Sai Kolachina

>

> vedic astrology, ""

> <gg_0202> wrote:

> >

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > Dear Neeraj Ji,

> > I cannot agree with you that Mars in Second houses

> > causes Kuja Dosha.If we stick to the principles as laid by our

> > Classics,then your point is totally nullified.Let me it write it

> > below for all you:-

> > Lagne Vyaye cha Pataale Yaamitre Chaashtame Kuje|

> > StriJaatake Bhartrinaashah Pumso Bhaaryaa Vinshyati||

> > ------In Lagna or in 12th house or in 4th House or in 7th/8th

> house

> > from Lagna Mars is posted then it results into premature death

of

> > spouse.

> > Position of Mars in 2nd house doesn't result into Kuja

> Dosha

> > rather it is considered to be good.

> > Thanking You All,

> > .

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, Neeraj Gupta

> > <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > Second house is also considered as maraka. The 7th

> > > house denotes marriage and second from 7th is 8th

> > > house. Hence, mars placed there is considered as kuja

> > > dosha and it is not considered good for longevity of

> > > marriage / bride / groom.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Neeraj

> > > --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Sameer:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Your Mars in the 8th, is interesting.

> > > >

> > > > You often hear about how Mars in the 8th is

> > > > suppposed to be Kuja dosh, like

> > > > Mars in the 1st, 4th, 7th, & 12th...

> > > >

> > > > However, unlike all the other configurations, Mars

> > > > in the 8th doesn't

> > > > directly influence the 7th house, due to any of it's

> > > > aspects.

> > > >

> > > > So, I don't consider 8th in the 8th as being Kuja

> > > > dosha.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Also, because the 8th house is the natural house, of

> > > > the sign scorpio, I

> > > > feel Mars in the 8th is less negative.

> > > >

> > > > However, then, you need to look at the sign

> > > > rulerships to determine the

> > > > secondary quality of Mars there, and because you

> > > > have a scorpio rising, the

> > > > fact that Mars in your 8th, represents the lord of

> > > > the first in the 8th...

> > > >

> > > > So, we could investigate whether this placement is

> > > > negative for you...

> > > >

> > > > Having the lst house lord, in the 8th, this

> > > > represents qualities and

> > > > characteristics of the Self,

> > > > or 'I', in the 8th house...

> > > >

> > > > The question then, is do you have any of the

> > > > negatives or the positives of

> > > > the 8th house?

> > > >

> > > > Do you have difficulties with any bad habits, or

> > > > compulsions, addictions and

> > > > the like?

> > > >

> > > > If you do, then, Mars is representative of some

> > > > malefic influence.

> > > >

> > > > If, however, you don't have any bad habits and on

> > > > the other hand, do have

> > > > good discipline, then, your Mars there could be

> > > > positive.

> > > >

> > > > Let me know the answer to these last questions and

> > > > then, I'll advise your

> > > > further.

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Mark Kincaid

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > "Sameer Bhardwaj" <dubbing@v...>

> > > > Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:07:45 +0530

> > > > "Mark Kincaid" <m.kincaid@m...>

> > > > Re: what is kuja dosha

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mark,

> > > >

> > > > I have Mars in 8th.....what precautions should I

> > > > take

> > > >

> > > > rgds

> > > >

> > > > Sameer

> > > > D.O.B 10th Dec 1975

> > > > T.O.B 07 00am

> > > > P.O.B Bombay-India

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...>

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Saturday, March 26, 2005 10:01 PM

> > > > [vedic astrology] 2-Suresh, Re: Re: what is

> > > > kuja dosha and what

> > > > ifone has it? what are the precautions to be taken?

> > > > > Mark Kincaid

> > > >

> > > > Dear Suresh:

> > > >

> > > > Mars in the 12th is one of the worst places of Mars.

> > > >

> > > > Even if Mars, there was only indicative of the

> > > > dramas and imbalances of the

> > > > 12th house,

> > > > this would be fairly negative.

> > > >

> > > > Mars in the 12th ends up being over expenditures of

> > > > money and energy, and

> > > > people, do

> > > > to being too Marish, going too fast, or spending too

> > > > much money.... suffer a

> > > > lot of debt and

> > > > grief due to MARS here.

> > > >

> > > > Personally, I have never heard Mars described as

> > > > having much positive

> > > > characteristics in the 12th, unless it's in either

> > > > it's Own sign or Exalted.

> > > >

> > > > though my x-wife had exalted Mars there, and that

> > > > only contributed to her

> > > > incessent need,

> > > > and expression to spend!

> > > >

> > > > She had all the best reasons why she had to spend,

> > > > but all of them, only

> > > > lead, to our greater

> > > > financial ruin.

> > > >

> > > > Unfortunately I had 2 planets in my 12th house, and

> > > > I obviously deserved

> > > > her,....

> > > > though I had changed my poor spending ways, from my

> > > > past, due to great

> > > > unhappinesses,

> > > > due to over spending...or under saving....

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Mark Kincaid

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ps... please include the dob info. so we can verify

> > > > their chart, just in

> > > > case.

> > > >

> > > > Also, there rising sign, if you know it.

> > > >

> > > > pss.... I'll talk about precautions once you send

> > > > back the exact degrees of

> > > > this chart...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > "v.suresh babu" <sureshbabu_27aug>

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:49:03 +0000 (GMT)

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: what is kuja

> > > > dosha and what if one has

> > > > it?what are the precautions to be taken?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear suneel ji and other members,

> > > > what if a person has the

> > > > following in his chart,

> > > > At lagna-sun,ven

> > > > 2nd house-mer

> > > > 3rd house-jup

> > > > 4th house-sat,rahu

> > > > 7th house-moon

> > > > 10th house-ket

> > > > 12th house-mars

> > > > According to you if this is taken as an example this

> > > > native has kuja dosha,

> > > > and it is also said that if one has mars in 12th

> > > > house it is very good and

> > > > strong for the chart.What you have to say, please do

> > > > reply.

> > > > with regards

> > > > v.suresh babu

> > > >

> > > > suneel sitaula <astrologernepal> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > DEAR FRIEND KUJA DISH MEANS DEFACT OF MARS, IN NATAL

> > > > CHART IF MARS IS

> > > > OCCUPIED MY LAGNA FORTH SEVENTH EIGHTH & TWELVETH

> > > > ,THAT IS CALLED

> > > > KUJA DOSH , ACCORDING TO ASTROLOGY IF A PERSON HAS A

> > > > KUJA DOSH IN HIS

> > > > CHART HE WILL BE FATAL FOR HIS SPOUSE & IN FEMALE

> > > > CHART , HE WILL BE

> > > > FATAL FOR HER HUSBAND , BUT IN THESE HOUSE ALSO

> > > > OCCUPIED BY SATUEN .

> > > > KUJA DOSH CANN'T AFFECT, IT MEANS SATURN CAN REMOVE

> > > > DOSH OF MARS

> > > > REGARDS

> > > >

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I bagree with what Neeraji says. In the North India Mars in 2nd house is not

 

considered as Mangala Dosha. In South it is, and in south they not only

 

count the houses from Lagna, but also Moon, and Venus !!! So for southerners

 

it may be diffcult to escape this Dosha !

 

--- <gg_0202 wrote:

 

>

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> Dear Neeraj Ji,

> I cannot agree with you that Mars in Second houses

> causes Kuja Dosha.If we stick to the principles as laid by our

> Classics,then your point is totally nullified.Let me it write it

> below for all you:-

> Lagne Vyaye cha Pataale Yaamitre Chaashtame Kuje|

> StriJaatake Bhartrinaashah Pumso Bhaaryaa Vinshyati||

> ------In Lagna or in 12th house or in 4th House or in 7th/8th house

> from Lagna Mars is posted then it results into premature death of

> spouse.

> Position of Mars in 2nd house doesn't result into Kuja Dosha

> rather it is considered to be good.

> Thanking You All,

> .

>

>

> vedic astrology, Neeraj Gupta

> <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > Second house is also considered as maraka. The 7th

> > house denotes marriage and second from 7th is 8th

> > house. Hence, mars placed there is considered as kuja

> > dosha and it is not considered good for longevity of

> > marriage / bride / groom.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj

> > --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Sameer:

> > >

> > >

> > > Your Mars in the 8th, is interesting.

> > >

> > > You often hear about how Mars in the 8th is

> > > suppposed to be Kuja dosh, like

> > > Mars in the 1st, 4th, 7th, & 12th...

> > >

> > > However, unlike all the other configurations, Mars

> > > in the 8th doesn't

> > > directly influence the 7th house, due to any of it's

> > > aspects.

> > >

> > > So, I don't consider 8th in the 8th as being Kuja

> > > dosha.

> > >

> > >

> > > Also, because the 8th house is the natural house, of

> > > the sign scorpio, I

> > > feel Mars in the 8th is less negative.

> > >

> > > However, then, you need to look at the sign

> > > rulerships to determine the

> > > secondary quality of Mars there, and because you

> > > have a scorpio rising, the

> > > fact that Mars in your 8th, represents the lord of

> > > the first in the 8th...

> > >

> > > So, we could investigate whether this placement is

> > > negative for you...

> > >

> > > Having the lst house lord, in the 8th, this

> > > represents qualities and

> > > characteristics of the Self,

> > > or 'I', in the 8th house...

> > >

> > > The question then, is do you have any of the

> > > negatives or the positives of

> > > the 8th house?

> > >

> > > Do you have difficulties with any bad habits, or

> > > compulsions, addictions and

> > > the like?

> > >

> > > If you do, then, Mars is representative of some

> > > malefic influence.

> > >

> > > If, however, you don't have any bad habits and on

> > > the other hand, do have

> > > good discipline, then, your Mars there could be

> > > positive.

> > >

> > > Let me know the answer to these last questions and

> > > then, I'll advise your

> > > further.

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > >

> > > Mark Kincaid

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > "Sameer Bhardwaj" <dubbing@v...>

> > > Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:07:45 +0530

> > > "Mark Kincaid" <m.kincaid@m...>

> > > Re: what is kuja dosha

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Mark,

> > >

> > > I have Mars in 8th.....what precautions should I

> > > take

> > >

> > > rgds

> > >

> > > Sameer

> > > D.O.B 10th Dec 1975

> > > T.O.B 07 00am

> > > P.O.B Bombay-India

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...>

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Saturday, March 26, 2005 10:01 PM

> > > [vedic astrology] 2-Suresh, Re: Re: what is

> > > kuja dosha and what

> > > ifone has it? what are the precautions to be taken?

> > > > Mark Kincaid

> > >

> > > Dear Suresh:

> > >

> > > Mars in the 12th is one of the worst places of Mars.

> > >

> > > Even if Mars, there was only indicative of the

> > > dramas and imbalances of the

> > > 12th house,

> > > this would be fairly negative.

> > >

> > > Mars in the 12th ends up being over expenditures of

> > > money and energy, and

> > > people, do

> > > to being too Marish, going too fast, or spending too

> > > much money.... suffer a

> > > lot of debt and

> > > grief due to MARS here.

> > >

> > > Personally, I have never heard Mars described as

> > > having much positive

> > > characteristics in the 12th, unless it's in either

> > > it's Own sign or Exalted.

> > >

> > > though my x-wife had exalted Mars there, and that

> > > only contributed to her

> > > incessent need,

> > > and expression to spend!

> > >

> > > She had all the best reasons why she had to spend,

> > > but all of them, only

> > > lead, to our greater

> > > financial ruin.

> > >

> > > Unfortunately I had 2 planets in my 12th house, and

> > > I obviously deserved

> > > her,....

> > > though I had changed my poor spending ways, from my

> > > past, due to great

> > > unhappinesses,

> > > due to over spending...or under saving....

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > >

> > > Mark Kincaid

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ps... please include the dob info. so we can verify

> > > their chart, just in

> > > case.

> > >

> > > Also, there rising sign, if you know it.

> > >

> > > pss.... I'll talk about precautions once you send

> > > back the exact degrees of

> > > this chart...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > "v.suresh babu" <sureshbabu_27aug>

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:49:03 +0000 (GMT)

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: what is kuja

> > > dosha and what if one has

> > > it?what are the precautions to be taken?

> > >

>

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~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Dear Gaurav Ji,

 

I never said mars in 2nd house. I was talking about

2nd house from 7th house i.e. mars in 8th house.

 

Sorry, If I was not clear enough in explaining it

clearly.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj

--- <gg_0202 wrote:

 

>

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> Dear Neeraj Ji,

> I cannot agree with you that Mars in

> Second houses

> causes Kuja Dosha.If we stick to the principles as

> laid by our

> Classics,then your point is totally nullified.Let me

> it write it

> below for all you:-

> Lagne Vyaye cha Pataale Yaamitre Chaashtame Kuje|

> StriJaatake Bhartrinaashah Pumso Bhaaryaa

> Vinshyati||

> ------In Lagna or in 12th house or in 4th House or

> in 7th/8th house

> from Lagna Mars is posted then it results into

> premature death of

> spouse.

> Position of Mars in 2nd house doesn't result

> into Kuja Dosha

> rather it is considered to be good.

> Thanking You All,

> .

>

>

> vedic astrology, Neeraj Gupta

>

> <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > Second house is also considered as maraka. The 7th

> > house denotes marriage and second from 7th is 8th

> > house. Hence, mars placed there is considered as

> kuja

> > dosha and it is not considered good for longevity

> of

> > marriage / bride / groom.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj

> > --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Sameer:

> > >

> > >

> > > Your Mars in the 8th, is interesting.

> > >

> > > You often hear about how Mars in the 8th is

> > > suppposed to be Kuja dosh, like

> > > Mars in the 1st, 4th, 7th, & 12th...

> > >

> > > However, unlike all the other configurations,

> Mars

> > > in the 8th doesn't

> > > directly influence the 7th house, due to any of

> it's

> > > aspects.

> > >

> > > So, I don't consider 8th in the 8th as being

> Kuja

> > > dosha.

> > >

> > >

> > > Also, because the 8th house is the natural

> house, of

> > > the sign scorpio, I

> > > feel Mars in the 8th is less negative.

> > >

> > > However, then, you need to look at the sign

> > > rulerships to determine the

> > > secondary quality of Mars there, and because you

> > > have a scorpio rising, the

> > > fact that Mars in your 8th, represents the lord

> of

> > > the first in the 8th...

> > >

> > > So, we could investigate whether this placement

> is

> > > negative for you...

> > >

> > > Having the lst house lord, in the 8th, this

> > > represents qualities and

> > > characteristics of the Self,

> > > or 'I', in the 8th house...

> > >

> > > The question then, is do you have any of the

> > > negatives or the positives of

> > > the 8th house?

> > >

> > > Do you have difficulties with any bad habits, or

> > > compulsions, addictions and

> > > the like?

> > >

> > > If you do, then, Mars is representative of some

> > > malefic influence.

> > >

> > > If, however, you don't have any bad habits and

> on

> > > the other hand, do have

> > > good discipline, then, your Mars there could be

> > > positive.

> > >

> > > Let me know the answer to these last questions

> and

> > > then, I'll advise your

> > > further.

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > >

> > > Mark Kincaid

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > "Sameer Bhardwaj" <dubbing@v...>

> > > Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:07:45 +0530

> > > "Mark Kincaid" <m.kincaid@m...>

> > > Re: what is kuja dosha

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Mark,

> > >

> > > I have Mars in 8th.....what precautions should I

> > > take

> > >

> > > rgds

> > >

> > > Sameer

> > > D.O.B 10th Dec 1975

> > > T.O.B 07 00am

> > > P.O.B Bombay-India

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...>

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Saturday, March 26, 2005 10:01 PM

> > > [vedic astrology] 2-Suresh, Re: Re:

> what is

> > > kuja dosha and what

> > > ifone has it? what are the precautions to be

> taken?

> > > > Mark Kincaid

> > >

> > > Dear Suresh:

> > >

> > > Mars in the 12th is one of the worst places of

> Mars.

> > >

> > > Even if Mars, there was only indicative of the

> > > dramas and imbalances of the

> > > 12th house,

> > > this would be fairly negative.

> > >

> > > Mars in the 12th ends up being over expenditures

> of

> > > money and energy, and

> > > people, do

> > > to being too Marish, going too fast, or spending

> too

> > > much money.... suffer a

> > > lot of debt and

> > > grief due to MARS here.

> > >

> > > Personally, I have never heard Mars described as

> > > having much positive

> > > characteristics in the 12th, unless it's in

> either

> > > it's Own sign or Exalted.

> > >

> > > though my x-wife had exalted Mars there, and

> that

> > > only contributed to her

> > > incessent need,

> > > and expression to spend!

> > >

> > > She had all the best reasons why she had to

> spend,

> > > but all of them, only

> > > lead, to our greater

> > > financial ruin.

> > >

> > > Unfortunately I had 2 planets in my 12th house,

> and

> > > I obviously deserved

> > > her,....

> > > though I had changed my poor spending ways, from

> my

> > > past, due to great

> > > unhappinesses,

> > > due to over spending...or under saving....

> > >

>

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