Guest guest Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 dear jyothi lakshmiji, i am extremely sorry, as i am not supposed to comment on this being a non-astrologer. but, still as per my experience and thinking, the good yogas are to be supported by other planets also to be fruitful. even though a person may have many good yogas but one strong malefic yoga can spoil the life. as such, to come to any conclusion, one has to see the complete chart and its plus and minus points. i may be wrong which may be corrected by gurus and other learned persons. tvr --------Original Message ------- Respected Sirs, Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many people including my friends and relatives who have this yoga . But they dont have the fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of as the effects of this Yoga. They live just as any other people live who doesnt have this yoga. Why is it so? Another thing I would like to know is that what combination of planets makes one successful in life? Usually so much importance is given to the strength and better position of ninth lord. But one of the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the luckiest of all stars not only in Kerala, but also in India because of his amazing talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth which is considered as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra. In his chart, the planetary combinations are not conforming to the usual rules or yogas that are said to give great comfort and success. Besides, I have seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great yogas, but still they are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary, I have also seen people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha yogas leading a normal life without much success. On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to think that actually no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate ones success. Am I right to think so ? Also I have felt that many astrlogers who analyse celebrity horoscopes in magazines, purposefully glorify the yogas even if they are bad just because the person is accepted as a celebrity. Respected scholars please enlighten me. Regards, Jyothi. Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 I also would like to add to this. (a) Mere presence of yogas does not give the expected results, unless the periods of the yoga-giving planets come in the person's life time. What I mean is the sequence of dasha of the appropriate planets. For example, one may have excellent 5th Lord (for learning and education), but if he does not have the dasha of 5th Lord, or associated planets during the childhood, he may not have proper education during that period; but he may get an opportunity later in life. We see several people doing well in education/learning at advanced ages. Bottom line is, if the dasha of the yoga-giving planet or atleast supporting planets does not come appropriately, the person just lives a normal life like any other person. The same rule applies to Gaja-Kesari yoga, no exception. (b) Even though the same yogas are present in several people, the level of strength of the yogas, and the yoga-giving planets is important; for example being exalted, or debilitated, or being associated (aspected or conjunct) with other malefics or benefic planets etc. Sometimes some good yogas may be nullified by a very badly placed benefic planets or even by a single malefic-yoga. © As many learned astrologers performed researches and published, we should not underestimate the strength of so-called malefic houses 6th, 8th, and 12th houses and their lords. There are benefic effects also provided by these houses and their lords. There is an excellent article published by Sri KN Rao/his students of Bharathiya Vidya Bhavan, Delhi, in the Journal of Astrology (published by them), about Gaja-Kesari Yoga, as well as other points I mentioned here. Most recently they published to demonstrate how the 12th house connection in a native's horoscope gives fame and prosperity to the native. Therefore, it is advised not to underestimate 6th, 8th and 12th housees. In fact, among these three houses, if the lord of one house is in another (for example, Lord of 6th in 8th house or Lord of 12th in 6th house etc), then it is called Vipareetha Raja Yoga. Regards, Satya Sai Kolachina vedic astrology, tvrao_agd@s... wrote: > dear jyothi lakshmiji, > > i am extremely sorry, as i am not supposed to comment on this being a non-astrologer. > > but, still as per my experience and thinking, the good yogas are to be supported by other planets also to be fruitful. even though a person may have many good yogas but one strong malefic yoga can spoil the life. > > as such, to come to any conclusion, one has to see the complete chart and its plus and minus points. > > i may be wrong which may be corrected by gurus and other learned persons. > > tvr > > --------Original Message ------- > > > Respected Sirs, > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many people including my > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But they dont have the > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of as the effects of > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live who doesnt have > this yoga. Why is it so? > > Another thing I would like to know is that what combination of > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so much importance is > given to the strength and better position of ninth lord. But one of > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the luckiest of all > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India because of his amazing > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth which is considered > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra. In his chart, the > planetary combinations are not conforming to the usual rules or yogas > that are said to give great comfort and success. Besides, I have > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great yogas, but still they > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary, I have also seen > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha yogas leading a normal > life without much success. > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to think that actually > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate ones success. Am I > right to think so ? Also I have felt that many astrlogers who analyse > celebrity horoscopes in magazines, purposefully glorify the yogas > even if they are bad just because the person is accepted as a > celebrity. > > Respected scholars please enlighten me. > > > > Regards, > Jyothi. > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Namaste, One needs to look at the full chart, to see other grahas if they afflict these good combunations. For gaja kesari yoga, find yogas that have both chandra and guru unafflicted. Both in realtively good strength ( Not in enemy houses, not debilited, etc) Such strong combinations are rare. Finding just pancha mahapurush yogas is quite common, but one that is free of any afflictions, grahas in strength, is not that common. .... On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:47:26 +0530 (GMT+05:30), tvrao_agd <tvrao_agd wrote: > dear jyothi lakshmiji, > > i am extremely sorry, as i am not supposed to comment on this being a > non-astrologer. > > but, still as per my experience and thinking, the good yogas are to be > supported by other planets also to be fruitful. even though a person may > have many good yogas but one strong malefic yoga can spoil the life. > > as such, to come to any conclusion, one has to see the complete chart and > its plus and minus points. > > i may be wrong which may be corrected by gurus and other learned persons. > > tvr > > --------Original Message ------- > > > Respected Sirs, > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many people including my > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But they dont have the > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of as the effects of > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live who doesnt have > this yoga. Why is it so? > > Another thing I would like to know is that what combination of > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so much importance is > given to the strength and better position of ninth lord. But one of > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the luckiest of all > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India because of his amazing > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth which is considered > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra. In his chart, the > planetary combinations are not conforming to the usual rules or yogas > that are said to give great comfort and success. Besides, I have > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great yogas, but still they > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary, I have also seen > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha yogas leading a normal > life without much success. > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to think that actually > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate ones success. Am I > right to think so ? Also I have felt that many astrlogers who analyse > celebrity horoscopes in magazines, purposefully glorify the yogas > even if they are bad just because the person is accepted as a > celebrity. > > Respected scholars please enlighten me. > > > > Regards, > Jyothi. > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > Sponsor > > > ________________________________ > Links > > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Om Gurave Namah Namaste Jyothi, I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata much much later! Though I had not become world famous or frightfully rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this period. But as I said the best thing was to get close to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up to that "nidhi" or treasure. Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are strong in my chart. Regards, Lakshmi > > --------Original Message ------- > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many > people including my > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But > they dont have the > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of > as the effects of > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live > who doesnt have > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what > combination of > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so > much importance is > > given to the strength and better position of ninth > lord. But one of > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the > luckiest of all > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India > because of his amazing > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth > which is considered > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra. > In his chart, the > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the > usual rules or yogas > > that are said to give great comfort and success. > Besides, I have > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great > yogas, but still they > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary, > I have also seen > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha > yogas leading a normal > > life without much success. > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to > think that actually > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate > ones success. Am I > > right to think so ? Also I have felt that many > astrlogers who analyse > > celebrity horoscopes in magazines, purposefully > glorify the yogas > > even if they are bad just because the person is > accepted as a > > celebrity. > > > > Respected scholars please enlighten me. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Jyothi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Links > > > > > > vedic astrology/ > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > Terms of Service. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Hello Jyothi For yoga to function, there are quite a few conditions. The initiator of yoga is sun and sustainer is moon. The arc degree for jupiter moon should not be greater than 5 degrees. Apart from this, one should also have strong vaisheshikamsas and avasthas for the said grahas. best wishes partha vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Jyothi, > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata > much much later! > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are > strong in my chart. > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > > --------Original Message ------- > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many > > people including my > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But > > they dont have the > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of > > as the effects of > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live > > who doesnt have > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what > > combination of > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so > > much importance is > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth > > lord. But one of > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the > > luckiest of all > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India > > because of his amazing > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth > > which is considered > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra. > > In his chart, the > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the > > usual rules or yogas > > > that are said to give great comfort and success. > > Besides, I have > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great > > yogas, but still they > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary, > > I have also seen > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha > > yogas leading a normal > > > life without much success. > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to > > think that actually > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate > > ones success. Am I > > > right to think so ? Also I have felt that many > > astrlogers who analyse > > > celebrity horoscopes in magazines, purposefully > > glorify the yogas > > > even if they are bad just because the person is > > accepted as a > > > celebrity. > > > > > > Respected scholars please enlighten me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jyothi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Links > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology/ > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 -- Respected ParthaSarthy Ji, If you could please tell whether the Gaja Kesari Yoga gives it effect only in Mahadasha of moon and jupiter or its having impact throughout the life. Myself and my wife both have this Gajakesari yoga but nothing much appreciable has happened till date.I do not even own a house.Can you tell me why in our case this yoga is not becoming potent. My Birth details DOB 16/9/72 TOB 12:22 pm Place Roorkee(UP) My wife birth Details DOB6/12/74 TOB 10:55 am Place Muzaffarnagar(UP) Please enlighten us for what future hold for us. regards - In vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > Hello Jyothi > > For yoga to function, there are quite a few conditions. The initiator > of yoga is sun and sustainer is moon. The arc degree for jupiter moon > should not be greater than 5 degrees. Apart from this, one should > also have strong vaisheshikamsas and avasthas for the said grahas. > best wishes > partha > > > vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste Jyothi, > > > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon > > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed > > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was > > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful > > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I > > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha > > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra > > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata > > much much later! > > > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully > > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i > > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this > > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close > > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up > > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved > > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are > > strong in my chart. > > > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > > > --------Original Message ------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many > > > people including my > > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But > > > they dont have the > > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of > > > as the effects of > > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live > > > who doesnt have > > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what > > > combination of > > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so > > > much importance is > > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth > > > lord. But one of > > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the > > > luckiest of all > > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India > > > because of his amazing > > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth > > > which is considered > > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra. > > > In his chart, the > > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the > > > usual rules or yogas > > > > that are said to give great comfort and success. > > > Besides, I have > > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great > > > yogas, but still they > > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary, > > > I have also seen > > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha > > > yogas leading a normal > > > > life without much success. > > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to > > > think that actually > > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate > > > ones success. Am I > > > > right to think so ? Also I have felt that many > > > astrlogers who analyse > > > > celebrity horoscopes in magazines, purposefully > > > glorify the yogas > > > > even if they are bad just because the person is > > > accepted as a > > > > celebrity. > > > > > > > > Respected scholars please enlighten me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Jyothi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th lordship doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or Moon doesn't give Malefic results as 8th lord. you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon dasha even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good results of Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a great yog capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar case without any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for whom i worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his Moon is in Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with Guru. still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious vehicles, great house etc..) best regards, Pathak lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh > wrote: Om Gurave NamahNamaste Jyothi,I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my MoonVimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposedto be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I wastops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderfulguy. And the best thing that happened to me was that Iwas naturally drawn to chanting of LalithaSahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandradasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devatamuch much later!Though I had not become world famous or frightfullyrich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), idid earn a fair amount of fame & money during thisperiod. But as I said the best thing was to get closeto Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure upto that "nidhi" or treasure. Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involvedin Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries arestrong in my chart.Regards,Lakshmi> > --------Original Message -------> > > > > > Respected Sirs,> > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many> people including my > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But> they dont have the > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of> as the effects of > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live> who doesnt have > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what> combination of > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so> much importance is > > given to the strength and better position of ninth> lord. But one of > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the> luckiest of all > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India> because of his amazing > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth> which is considered > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra.> In his chart, the > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the> usual rules or yogas > > that are said to give great comfort and success.> Besides, I have > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great> yogas, but still they > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary,> I have also seen > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha> yogas leading a normal > > life without much success. > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to> think that actually > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate> ones success. Am I > > right to think so ? Also I have felt that many> astrlogers who analyse > > celebrity horoscopes in magazines, purposefully> glorify the yogas > > even if they are bad just because the person is> accepted as a > > celebrity. > > > > Respected scholars please enlighten me.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > Jyothi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> vedic astrology> > > > Group info:>vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Links> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> vedic astrology> > > > Group info:>vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Sponsor> > > > > > ________________________________> > Links> > > > To visit your group on the web, go to:> > vedic astrology/> > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > Your use of is subject to the > Terms of Service.> Small Business - Try our new resources site! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Hello Utpal Yes, 8th lordship for sun and moon is exempted by classics. Parasara Rishi says that only Venus is a malefic for Dhanu lagna. I have moon in kanya rasi in 10th house. I had four to five accidents, and eye problems, and also mother expired during moon dasa. Moon is alone but aspected by saturn. So i wonder about your statement on moon dasa for you friend. Just check his chart, and see if there are benefics in dual signs. And also note the aspects if any. best wishes partha vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote: > Namaskar, > > Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th lordship doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or Moon doesn't give Malefic results as 8th lord. > > you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon dasha even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good results of Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a great yog capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar case without any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for whom i worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his Moon is in Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with Guru. still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious vehicles, great house etc..) > > best regards, > > Pathak > > > lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Jyothi, > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata > much much later! > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are > strong in my chart. > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > > --------Original Message ------- > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many > > people including my > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But > > they dont have the > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of > > as the effects of > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live > > who doesnt have > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what > > combination of > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so > > much importance is > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth > > lord. But one of > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the > > luckiest of all > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India > > because of his amazing > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth > > which is considered > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra. > > In his chart, the > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the > > usual rules or yogas > > > that are said to give great comfort and success. > > Besides, I have > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great > > yogas, but still they > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary, > > I have also seen > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha > > yogas leading a normal > > > life without much success. > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to > > think that actually > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate > > ones success. Am I > > > right to think so ? Also I have felt that many > > astrlogers who analyse > > > celebrity horoscopes in magazines, purposefully > > glorify the yogas > > > even if they are bad just because the person is > > accepted as a > > > celebrity. > > > > > > Respected scholars please enlighten me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jyothi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Namaste Parthaji, Yes sir, you are very right when you ask me to check Affliction to Moon. I just wanted to propose a point that for Dhanu Lagna, if Moon is UNAfflicted, may give very good results even if not involved in Gajakesari yoga. with reference to your suggetions, The natives moon is UNafflicted in lagna with no planetory expects and 11 th from Guru & sun. there are no benefics in Dual rashi except Moon. Saturn becomes first rate Marka for Dhanu along with Venus and its affliction to moon may have brought the Evil lordship of Moon to fructification in evil way and hampered the Karktatva. correct me if i am wrong namaskar Utpal vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > Hello Utpal > > Yes, 8th lordship for sun and moon is exempted by classics. Parasara > Rishi says that only Venus is a malefic for Dhanu lagna. > I have moon in kanya rasi in 10th house. I had four to five > accidents, and eye problems, and also mother expired during moon > dasa. Moon is alone but aspected by saturn. So i wonder about your > statement on moon dasa for you friend. Just check his chart, and see > if there are benefics in dual signs. And also note the aspects if any. > best wishes > partha > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > Namaskar, > > > > Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th lordship > doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or Moon doesn't > give Malefic results as 8th lord. > > > > you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon dasha > even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good results of > Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a great yog > capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar case without > any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for whom i > worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his Moon is in > Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with Guru. > still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & > flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious vehicles, > great house etc..) > > > > best regards, > > > > Pathak > > > > > > lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste Jyothi, > > > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon > > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed > > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was > > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful > > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I > > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha > > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra > > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata > > much much later! > > > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully > > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i > > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this > > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close > > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up > > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved > > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are > > strong in my chart. > > > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > > > --------Original Message ------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many > > > people including my > > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But > > > they dont have the > > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of > > > as the effects of > > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live > > > who doesnt have > > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what > > > combination of > > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so > > > much importance is > > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth > > > lord. But one of > > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the > > > luckiest of all > > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India > > > because of his amazing > > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth > > > which is considered > > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra. > > > In his chart, the > > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the > > > usual rules or yogas > > > > that are said to give great comfort and success. > > > Besides, I have > > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great > > > yogas, but still they > > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary, > > > I have also seen > > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha > > > yogas leading a normal > > > > life without much success. > > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to > > > think that actually > > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate > > > ones success. Am I > > > > right to think so ? Also I have felt that many > > > astrlogers who analyse > > > > celebrity horoscopes in magazines, purposefully > > > glorify the yogas > > > > even if they are bad just because the person is > > > accepted as a > > > > celebrity. > > > > > > > > Respected scholars please enlighten me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Jyothi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Dear Utpal Good point. That is what i wanted to hear. When rishi says that 8th lordship is exempted, we have to bear in mind the afflictions also. Here in your friend's case there are no afflictions, thus he escaped. If with any other afflictions, there would have been the problems. I have a number of Dhanu lagna cases, and i see moon first. One such case has Moon in fourth house in digbala, but with saturn. His mother expired within months. Another guy has moon in 3rd house aspected by Mangal, Shukra, Budha from Simha rasi. that is the 7th aspect. She is a well known lady, and is in All India Radio. Many practical cases give us more knowledge than book knowledge. best wishes partha vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > Namaste Parthaji, > > Yes sir, you are very right when you ask me to check Affliction to > Moon. > > I just wanted to propose a point that for Dhanu Lagna, if Moon is > UNAfflicted, may give very good results even if not involved in > Gajakesari yoga. > > with reference to your suggetions, The natives moon is UNafflicted > in lagna with no planetory expects and 11 th from Guru & sun. there > are no benefics in Dual rashi except Moon. > > Saturn becomes first rate Marka for Dhanu along with Venus and its > affliction to moon may have brought the Evil lordship of Moon to > fructification in evil way and hampered the Karktatva. > correct me if i am wrong > > namaskar > Utpal > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > Hello Utpal > > > > Yes, 8th lordship for sun and moon is exempted by classics. > Parasara > > Rishi says that only Venus is a malefic for Dhanu lagna. > > I have moon in kanya rasi in 10th house. I had four to five > > accidents, and eye problems, and also mother expired during moon > > dasa. Moon is alone but aspected by saturn. So i wonder about your > > statement on moon dasa for you friend. Just check his chart, and > see > > if there are benefics in dual signs. And also note the aspects if > any. > > best wishes > > partha > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th lordship > > doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or Moon > doesn't > > give Malefic results as 8th lord. > > > > > > you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon dasha > > even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good results > of > > Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a great yog > > capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar case > without > > any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for whom i > > worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his Moon is > in > > Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with Guru. > > still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & > > flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious vehicles, > > great house etc..) > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > Pathak > > > > > > > > > lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste Jyothi, > > > > > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon > > > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed > > > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was > > > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful > > > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I > > > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha > > > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra > > > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata > > > much much later! > > > > > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully > > > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i > > > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this > > > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close > > > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up > > > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > > > > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > > > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved > > > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are > > > strong in my chart. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Lakshmi > > > > > --------Original Message ------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many > > > > people including my > > > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But > > > > they dont have the > > > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of > > > > as the effects of > > > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live > > > > who doesnt have > > > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what > > > > combination of > > > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so > > > > much importance is > > > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth > > > > lord. But one of > > > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the > > > > luckiest of all > > > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India > > > > because of his amazing > > > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth > > > > which is considered > > > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra. > > > > In his chart, the > > > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the > > > > usual rules or yogas > > > > > that are said to give great comfort and success. > > > > Besides, I have > > > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great > > > > yogas, but still they > > > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary, > > > > I have also seen > > > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha > > > > yogas leading a normal > > > > > life without much success. > > > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to > > > > think that actually > > > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate > > > > ones success. Am I > > > > > right to think so ? Also I have felt that many > > > > astrlogers who analyse > > > > > celebrity horoscopes in magazines, purposefully > > > > glorify the yogas > > > > > even if they are bad just because the person is > > > > accepted as a > > > > > celebrity. > > > > > > > > > > Respected scholars please enlighten me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Jyothi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Namaste Partha and Pathak ji, My moon is thoroughly afflicted being conjunct Saturn, and aspected by Mars and Rahu. Yet, as Partha pointed out, the strength of Jupiter, who is the dispositor of both moon and saturn seemed to have ensured the good results. I do agree that for Dhanur lagna people, Moon, despite being the 8th lord, may not be that dire a malefic because of the friendly relationship he shares with Jupiter, but will it be equally so in the case of Makara lagna and 8th lordship of Sun? Regards, Lakshmi "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu > wrote: Dear UtpalGood point. That is what i wanted to hear. When rishi says that 8th lordship is exempted, we have to bear in mind the afflictions also.Here in your friend's case there are no afflictions, thus he escaped. If with any other afflictions, there would have been the problems.I have a number of Dhanu lagna cases, and i see moon first. One such case has Moon in fourth house in digbala, but with saturn. His mother expired within months.Another guy has moon in 3rd house aspected by Mangal, Shukra, Budha from Simha rasi. that is the 7th aspect. She is a well known lady, and is in All India Radio. Many practical cases give us more knowledge than book knowledge. best wishespartha--- In vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > Namaste Parthaji,> > Yes sir, you are very right when you ask me to check Affliction to > Moon.> > I just wanted to propose a point that for Dhanu Lagna, if Moon is > UNAfflicted, may give very good results even if not involved in > Gajakesari yoga.> > with reference to your suggetions, The natives moon is UNafflicted > in lagna with no planetory expects and 11 th from Guru & sun. there > are no benefics in Dual rashi except Moon.> > Saturn becomes first rate Marka for Dhanu along with Venus and its > affliction to moon may have brought the Evil lordship of Moon to > fructification in evil way and hampered the Karktatva.> correct me if i am wrong> > namaskar> Utpal> > > --- In vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > <partvinu@g...> wrote:> > > > Hello Utpal> > > > Yes, 8th lordship for sun and moon is exempted by classics. > Parasara > > Rishi says that only Venus is a malefic for Dhanu lagna.> > I have moon in kanya rasi in 10th house. I had four to five > > accidents, and eye problems, and also mother expired during moon > > dasa. Moon is alone but aspected by saturn. So i wonder about your > > statement on moon dasa for you friend. Just check his chart, and > see > > if there are benefics in dual signs. And also note the aspects if > any.> > best wishes> > partha> > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > Namaskar,> > > > > > Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th lordship > > doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or Moon > doesn't > > give Malefic results as 8th lord.> > > > > > you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon dasha > > even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good results > of > > Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a great yog > > capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar case > without > > any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for whom i > > worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his Moon is > in > > Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with Guru. > > still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & > > flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious vehicles, > > great house etc..)> > > > > > best regards,> > > > > > Pathak> > > > > > > > > lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > Namaste Jyothi,> > > > > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon> > > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed> > > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was> > > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful> > > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I> > > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha> > > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra> > > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata> > > much much later!> > > > > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully> > > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i> > > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this> > > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close> > > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up> > > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > > > > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > > > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved> > > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are> > > strong in my chart.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Lakshmi> > > > > --------Original Message -------> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs,> > > > > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many> > > > people including my > > > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But> > > > they dont have the > > > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of> > > > as the effects of > > > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live> > > > who doesnt have > > > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what> > > > combination of > > > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so> > > > much importance is > > > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth> > > > lord. But one of > > > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the> > > > luckiest of all > > > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India> > > > because of his amazing > > > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth> > > > which is considered > > > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra.> > > > In his chart, the > > > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the> > > > usual rules or yogas > > > > > that are said to give great comfort and success.> > > > Besides, I have > > > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great> > > > yogas, but still they > > > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary,> > > > I have also seen > > > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha> > > > yogas leading a normal > > > > > life without much success. > > > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to> > > > think that actually > > > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate> > > > ones success. Am I > > > > > right to think so ? Also I have felt that many> > > > astrlogers who analyse > > > > > celebrity horoscopes in magazines, purposefully> > > > glorify the yogas > > > > > even if they are bad just because the person is> > > > accepted as a > > > > > celebrity. > > > > > > > > > > Respected scholars please enlighten me.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > Jyothi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > Group info:> > > >> > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Dear Lakshmi ji Sun and moon could have been exempted from malefic 8th lordship, as Atma and manah are not the "dhatus" that can be corrupted. Now coming to Makara lagna, i have seen a case where sun was conjunct the lagna degree. Sun is vargottama , so is the lagna. I predicted to this person in 98 that he may have trouble in job,. He came to me in 2002 and told me that indeed he did have trouble. But the story goes like this, the person was sitting in his cabin when he felt like going out to feel the warmth of sun and have a cup of coffee. The factory got fire, and many people died. he escaped. Now tell me is sun malefic or benefic . best wishes partha On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:28:35 -0800 (PST), lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Partha and Pathak ji, > > My moon is thoroughly afflicted being conjunct Saturn, and aspected by Mars > and Rahu. Yet, as Partha pointed out, the strength of Jupiter, who is the > dispositor of both moon and saturn seemed to have ensured the good results. > > I do agree that for Dhanur lagna people, Moon, despite being the 8th lord, > may not be that dire a malefic because of the friendly relationship he > shares with Jupiter, but will it be equally so in the case of Makara lagna > and 8th lordship of Sun? > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu wrote: > > Dear Utpal > > Good point. That is what i wanted to hear. When rishi says that 8th > lordship is exempted, we have to bear in mind the afflictions also. > Here in your friend's case there are no afflictions, thus he escaped. > If with any other afflictions, there would have been the problems. > I have a number of Dhanu lagna cases, and i see moon first. One such > case has Moon in fourth house in digbala, but with saturn. His mother > expired within months. > Another guy has moon in 3rd house aspected by Mangal, Shukra, Budha > from Simha rasi. that is the 7th aspect. She is a well known lady, > and is in All India Radio. Many practical cases give us more > knowledge than book knowledge. > best wishes > partha > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > Namaste Parthaji, > > > > Yes sir, you are very right when you ask me to check Affliction to > > Moon. > > > > I just wanted to propose a point that for Dhanu Lagna, if Moon is > > UNAfflicted, may give very good results even if not involved in > > Gajakesari yoga. > > > > with reference to your suggetions, The natives moon is UNafflicted > > in lagna with no planetory expects and 11 th from Guru & sun. there > > are no benefics in Dual rashi except Moon. > > > > Saturn becomes first rate Marka for Dhanu along with Venus and its > > affliction to moon may have brought the Evil lordship of Moon to > > fructification in evil way and hampered the Karktatva. > > correct me if i am wrong > > > > namaskar > > Utpal > > > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Utpal > > > > > > Yes, 8th lordship for sun and moon is exempted by classics. > > Parasara > > > Rishi says that only Venus is a malefic for Dhanu lagna. > > > I have moon in kanya rasi in 10th house. I had four to five > > > accidents, and eye problems, and also mother expired during moon > > > dasa. Moon is alone but aspected by saturn. So i wonder about > your > > > statement on moon dasa for you friend. Just check his chart, and > > see > > > if there are benefics in dual signs. And also note the aspects if > > any. > > > best wishes > > > partha > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > > > Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th lordship > > > doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or Moon > > doesn't > > > give Malefic results as 8th lord. > > > > > > > > you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon dasha > > > even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good results > > of > > > Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a great yog > > > capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar case > > without > > > any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for whom i > > > worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his Moon is > > in > > > Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with Guru. > > > still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & > > > flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious > vehicles, > > > great house etc..) > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > > Pathak > > > > > > > > > > > > lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Namaste Jyothi, > > > > > > > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon > > > > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed > > > > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was > > > > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful > > > > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I > > > > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha > > > > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra > > > > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata > > > > much much later! > > > > > > > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully > > > > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i > > > > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this > > > > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close > > > > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up > > > > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > > > > > > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > > > > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved > > > > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are > > > > strong in my chart. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > --------Original Message ------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many > > > > > people including my > > > > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But > > > > > they dont have the > > > > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of > > > > > as the effects of > > > > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live > > > > > who doesnt have > > > > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what > > > > > combination of > > > > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so > > > > > much importance is > > > > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth > > > > > lord. But one of > > > > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the > > > > > luckiest of all > > > > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India > > > > > because of his amazing > > > > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth > > > > > which is considered > > > > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra. > > > > > In his chart, the > > > > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the > > > > > usual rules or yogas > > > > > > that are said to give great comfort and success. > > > > > Besides, I have > > > > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great > > > > > yogas, but still they > > > > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary, > > > > > I have also seen > > > > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha > > > > > yogas leading a normal > > > > > > life without much success. > > > > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to > > > > > think that actually > > > > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate > > > > > ones success. Am I > > > > > > right to think so ? Also I have felt that many > > > > > astrlogers who analyse > > > > > > celebrity horoscopes in magazines, purposefully > > > > > glorify the yogas > > > > > > even if they are bad just because the person is > > > > > accepted as a > > > > > > celebrity. > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected scholars please enlighten me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jyothi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Dear Partha, Thanks for giving this case...I think it sort of proves what i had mentioned in a separate mail to Pathak ji. That sun and moon are never be malefic for matters of ayurdaya...but in other matters they can be so. The example you gave is a clincher, because the native lost his job / livelihood, but lived on to tell the story. Regards, Lakshmi Partha Sarathy <partvinu > wrote: Dear Lakshmi jiSun and moon could have been exempted from malefic 8th lordship, asAtma and manah are not the "dhatus" that can be corrupted.Now coming to Makara lagna, i have seen a case where sun was conjunctthe lagna degree. Sun is vargottama , so is the lagna. I predicted tothis person in 98 that he may have trouble in job,.He came to me in 2002 and told me that indeed he did have trouble. Butthe story goes like this, the person was sitting in his cabin when hefelt like going out to feel the warmth of sun and have a cup ofcoffee. The factory got fire, and many people died. he escaped. Nowtell me is sun malefic or benefic .best wishesparthaOn Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:28:35 -0800 (PST), lakshmi ramesh<b_lakshmi_ramesh > wrote:> Om Gurave Namah> > Namaste Partha and Pathak ji,> > My moon is thoroughly afflicted being conjunct Saturn, and aspected by Mars> and Rahu. Yet, as Partha pointed out, the strength of Jupiter, who is the> dispositor of both moon and saturn seemed to have ensured the good results.> > I do agree that for Dhanur lagna people, Moon, despite being the 8th lord,> may not be that dire a malefic because of the friendly relationship he> shares with Jupiter, but will it be equally so in the case of Makara lagna> and 8th lordship of Sun?> > Regards,> Lakshmi> > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu > wrote:> > Dear Utpal> > Good point. That is what i wanted to hear. When rishi says that 8th > lordship is exempted, we have to bear in mind the afflictions also.> Here in your friend's case there are no afflictions, thus he escaped. > If with any other afflictions, there would have been the problems.> I have a number of Dhanu lagna cases, and i see moon first. One such > case has Moon in fourth house in digbala, but with saturn. His mother > expired within months.> Another guy has moon in 3rd house aspected by Mangal, Shukra, Budha > from Simha rasi. that is the 7th aspect. She is a well known lady, > and is in All India Radio. Many practical cases give us more > knowledge than book knowledge. > best wishes> partha> > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > > Namaste Parthaji,> > > > Yes sir, you are very right when you ask me to check Affliction to > > Moon.> > > > I just wanted to propose a point that for Dhanu Lagna, if Moon is > > UNAfflicted, may give very good results even if not involved in > > Gajakesari yoga.> > > > with reference to your suggetions, The natives moon is UNafflicted > > in lagna with no planetory expects and 11 th from Guru & sun. there > > are no benefics in Dual rashi except Moon.> > > > Saturn becomes first rate Marka for Dhanu along with Venus and its > > affliction to moon may have brought the Evil lordship of Moon to > > fructification in evil way and hampered the Karktatva.> > correct me if i am wrong> > > > namaskar> > Utpal> > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > > <partvinu@g...> wrote:> > > > > > Hello Utpal> > > > > > Yes, 8th lordship for sun and moon is exempted by classics. > > Parasara > > > Rishi says that only Venus is a malefic for Dhanu lagna.> > > I have moon in kanya rasi in 10th house. I had four to five > > > accidents, and eye problems, and also mother expired during moon > > > dasa. Moon is alone but aspected by saturn. So i wonder about > your > > > statement on moon dasa for you friend. Just check his chart, and > > see > > > if there are benefics in dual signs. And also note the aspects if > > any.> > > best wishes> > > partha> > > > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > > Namaskar,> > > > > > > > Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th lordship > > > doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or Moon > > doesn't > > > give Malefic results as 8th lord.> > > > > > > > you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon dasha > > > even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good results > > of > > > Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a great yog > > > capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar case > > without > > > any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for whom i > > > worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his Moon is > > in > > > Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with Guru. > > > still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & > > > flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious > vehicles, > > > great house etc..)> > > > > > > > best regards,> > > > > > > > Pathak> > > > > > > > > > > > lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > Namaste Jyothi,> > > > > > > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon> > > > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed> > > > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was> > > > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful> > > > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I> > > > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha> > > > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra> > > > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata> > > > much much later!> > > > > > > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully> > > > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i> > > > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this> > > > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close> > > > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up> > > > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > > > > > > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > > > > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved> > > > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are> > > > strong in my chart.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Lakshmi> > > > > > --------Original Message -------> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs,> > > > > > > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many> > > > > people including my > > > > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But> > > > > they dont have the > > > > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of> > > > > as the effects of > > > > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live> > > > > who doesnt have > > > > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what> > > > > combination of > > > > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so> > > > > much importance is > > > > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth> > > > > lord. But one of > > > > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the> > > > > luckiest of all > > > > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India> > > > > because of his amazing > > > > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth> > > > > which is considered > > > > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra.> > > > > In his chart, the > > > > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the> > > > > usual rules or yogas > > > > > > that are said to give great comfort and success.> > > > > Besides, I have > > > > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great> > > > > yogas, but still they > > > > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary,> > > > > I have also seen > > > > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha> > > > > yogas leading a normal > > > > > > life without much success. > > > > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to> > > > > think that actually > > > > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate> > > > > ones success. Am I > > > > > > right to think so ? Also I have felt that many> > > > > astrlogers who analyse > > > > > > celebrity horoscopes in magazines, purposefully> > > > > glorify the yogas > > > > > > even if they are bad just because the person is> > > > > accepted as a > > > > > > celebrity. > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected scholars please enlighten me.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Jyothi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Group info:> > > > >> > > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > > vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> > > > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Groups Links> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Group info:> > > > >> > > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > > vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Dear Lakshmi, Partha et all, Intersting case. Partha, is it possible to post the chart. I have a basic quesiton. How are u all consider the event of death. Is it a benefic event or a malefic event ? Cheers !!! Ash vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Partha, > > Thanks for giving this case...I think it sort of proves what i had mentioned in a separate mail to Pathak ji. That sun and moon are never be malefic for matters of ayurdaya...but in other matters they can be so. The example you gave is a clincher, because the native lost his job / livelihood, but lived on to tell the story. > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > > > > Partha Sarathy <partvinu@g...> wrote: > Dear Lakshmi ji > > Sun and moon could have been exempted from malefic 8th lordship, as > Atma and manah are not the "dhatus" that can be corrupted. > > Now coming to Makara lagna, i have seen a case where sun was conjunct > the lagna degree. Sun is vargottama , so is the lagna. I predicted to > this person in 98 that he may have trouble in job,. > He came to me in 2002 and told me that indeed he did have trouble. But > the story goes like this, the person was sitting in his cabin when he > felt like going out to feel the warmth of sun and have a cup of > coffee. The factory got fire, and many people died. he escaped. Now > tell me is sun malefic or benefic . > best wishes > partha > > > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:28:35 -0800 (PST), lakshmi ramesh > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste Partha and Pathak ji, > > > > My moon is thoroughly afflicted being conjunct Saturn, and aspected by Mars > > and Rahu. Yet, as Partha pointed out, the strength of Jupiter, who is the > > dispositor of both moon and saturn seemed to have ensured the good results. > > > > I do agree that for Dhanur lagna people, Moon, despite being the 8th lord, > > may not be that dire a malefic because of the friendly relationship he > > shares with Jupiter, but will it be equally so in the case of Makara lagna > > and 8th lordship of Sun? > > > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > Dear Utpal > > > > Good point. That is what i wanted to hear. When rishi says that 8th > > lordship is exempted, we have to bear in mind the afflictions also. > > Here in your friend's case there are no afflictions, thus he escaped. > > If with any other afflictions, there would have been the problems. > > I have a number of Dhanu lagna cases, and i see moon first. One such > > case has Moon in fourth house in digbala, but with saturn. His mother > > expired within months. > > Another guy has moon in 3rd house aspected by Mangal, Shukra, Budha > > from Simha rasi. that is the 7th aspect. She is a well known lady, > > and is in All India Radio. Many practical cases give us more > > knowledge than book knowledge. > > best wishes > > partha > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Parthaji, > > > > > > Yes sir, you are very right when you ask me to check Affliction to > > > Moon. > > > > > > I just wanted to propose a point that for Dhanu Lagna, if Moon is > > > UNAfflicted, may give very good results even if not involved in > > > Gajakesari yoga. > > > > > > with reference to your suggetions, The natives moon is UNafflicted > > > in lagna with no planetory expects and 11 th from Guru & sun. there > > > are no benefics in Dual rashi except Moon. > > > > > > Saturn becomes first rate Marka for Dhanu along with Venus and its > > > affliction to moon may have brought the Evil lordship of Moon to > > > fructification in evil way and hampered the Karktatva. > > > correct me if i am wrong > > > > > > namaskar > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Utpal > > > > > > > > Yes, 8th lordship for sun and moon is exempted by classics. > > > Parasara > > > > Rishi says that only Venus is a malefic for Dhanu lagna. > > > > I have moon in kanya rasi in 10th house. I had four to five > > > > accidents, and eye problems, and also mother expired during moon > > > > dasa. Moon is alone but aspected by saturn. So i wonder about > > your > > > > statement on moon dasa for you friend. Just check his chart, and > > > see > > > > if there are benefics in dual signs. And also note the aspects if > > > any. > > > > best wishes > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > > > > > Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th lordship > > > > doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or Moon > > > doesn't > > > > give Malefic results as 8th lord. > > > > > > > > > > you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon dasha > > > > even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good results > > > of > > > > Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a great yog > > > > capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar case > > > without > > > > any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for whom i > > > > worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his Moon is > > > in > > > > Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with Guru. > > > > still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & > > > > flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious > > vehicles, > > > > great house etc..) > > > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > > > > Pathak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Jyothi, > > > > > > > > > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon > > > > > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed > > > > > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was > > > > > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful > > > > > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I > > > > > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha > > > > > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra > > > > > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata > > > > > much much later! > > > > > > > > > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully > > > > > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i > > > > > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this > > > > > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close > > > > > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up > > > > > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > > > > > > > > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > > > > > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved > > > > > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are > > > > > strong in my chart. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > --------Original Message ------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many > > > > > > people including my > > > > > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But > > > > > > they dont have the > > > > > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of > > > > > > as the effects of > > > > > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live > > > > > > who doesnt have > > > > > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what > > > > > > combination of > > > > > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so > > > > > > much importance is > > > > > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth > > > > > > lord. But one of > > > > > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the > > > > > > luckiest of all > > > > > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India > > > > > > because of his amazing > > > > > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth > > > > > > which is considered > > > > > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra. > > > > > > In his chart, the > > > > > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the > > > > > > usual rules or yogas > > > > > > > that are said to give great comfort and success. > > > > > > Besides, I have > > > > > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great > > > > > > yogas, but still they > > > > > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary, > > > > > > I have also seen > > > > > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha > > > > > > yogas leading a normal > > > > > > > life without much success. > > > > > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to > > > > > > think that actually > > > > > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate > > > > > > ones success. Am I > > > > > > > right to think so ? Also I have felt that many > > > > > > astrlogers who analyse > > > > > > > celebrity horoscopes in magazines, purposefully > > > > > > glorify the yogas > > > > > > > even if they are bad just because the person is > > > > > > accepted as a > > > > > > > celebrity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected scholars please enlighten me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Jyothi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Dear Ash, Namaste. When viewed from the perspective of life, death is a daunting malefic experience, but when viewed from the perspective of after-life, death is a benefic new begining.... But since we are discussing natal charts, where the focus is more on birth and life and not on death, I guess we consider death a malefic incident. But there can be worse experiences in life than death....like loss of face, loss of a loved person etc Nice to hear from you after a long time. Regards, Lakshmi ashsam73 <ashsam73 > wrote: Dear Lakshmi, Partha et all,Intersting case.Partha, is it possible to post the chart.I have a basic quesiton. How are u all consider the event of death. Is it a benefic event or a malefic event ?Cheers !!!Ash--- In vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Partha,> > Thanks for giving this case...I think it sort of proves what i had mentioned in a separate mail to Pathak ji. That sun and moon are never be malefic for matters of ayurdaya...but in other matters they can be so. The example you gave is a clincher, because the native lost his job / livelihood, but lived on to tell the story.> > Regards,> Lakshmi> > > > > Partha Sarathy <partvinu@g...> wrote:> Dear Lakshmi ji> > Sun and moon could have been exempted from malefic 8th lordship, as> Atma and manah are not the "dhatus" that can be corrupted.> > Now coming to Makara lagna, i have seen a case where sun was conjunct> the lagna degree. Sun is vargottama , so is the lagna. I predicted to> this person in 98 that he may have trouble in job,.> He came to me in 2002 and told me that indeed he did have trouble. But> the story goes like this, the person was sitting in his cabin when he> felt like going out to feel the warmth of sun and have a cup of> coffee. The factory got fire, and many people died. he escaped. Now> tell me is sun malefic or benefic .> best wishes> partha> > > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:28:35 -0800 (PST), lakshmi ramesh> <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Namaste Partha and Pathak ji,> > > > My moon is thoroughly afflicted being conjunct Saturn, and aspected by Mars> > and Rahu. Yet, as Partha pointed out, the strength of Jupiter, who is the> > dispositor of both moon and saturn seemed to have ensured the good results.> > > > I do agree that for Dhanur lagna people, Moon, despite being the 8th lord,> > may not be that dire a malefic because of the friendly relationship he> > shares with Jupiter, but will it be equally so in the case of Makara lagna> > and 8th lordship of Sun?> > > > Regards,> > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote:> > > > Dear Utpal> > > > Good point. That is what i wanted to hear. When rishi says that 8th > > lordship is exempted, we have to bear in mind the afflictions also.> > Here in your friend's case there are no afflictions, thus he escaped. > > If with any other afflictions, there would have been the problems.> > I have a number of Dhanu lagna cases, and i see moon first. One such > > case has Moon in fourth house in digbala, but with saturn. His mother > > expired within months.> > Another guy has moon in 3rd house aspected by Mangal, Shukra, Budha > > from Simha rasi. that is the 7th aspect. She is a well known lady, > > and is in All India Radio. Many practical cases give us more > > knowledge than book knowledge. > > best wishes> > partha> > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > > > > Namaste Parthaji,> > > > > > Yes sir, you are very right when you ask me to check Affliction to > > > Moon.> > > > > > I just wanted to propose a point that for Dhanu Lagna, if Moon is > > > UNAfflicted, may give very good results even if not involved in > > > Gajakesari yoga.> > > > > > with reference to your suggetions, The natives moon is UNafflicted > > > in lagna with no planetory expects and 11 th from Guru & sun. there > > > are no benefics in Dual rashi except Moon.> > > > > > Saturn becomes first rate Marka for Dhanu along with Venus and its > > > affliction to moon may have brought the Evil lordship of Moon to > > > fructification in evil way and hampered the Karktatva.> > > correct me if i am wrong> > > > > > namaskar> > > Utpal> > > > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote:> > > > > > > > Hello Utpal> > > > > > > > Yes, 8th lordship for sun and moon is exempted by classics. > > > Parasara > > > > Rishi says that only Venus is a malefic for Dhanu lagna.> > > > I have moon in kanya rasi in 10th house. I had four to five > > > > accidents, and eye problems, and also mother expired during moon > > > > dasa. Moon is alone but aspected by saturn. So i wonder about > > your > > > > statement on moon dasa for you friend. Just check his chart, and > > > see > > > > if there are benefics in dual signs. And also note the aspects if > > > any.> > > > best wishes> > > > partha> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > > > > > > Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th lordship > > > > doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or Moon > > > doesn't > > > > give Malefic results as 8th lord.> > > > > > > > > > you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon dasha > > > > even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good results > > > of > > > > Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a great yog > > > > capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar case > > > without > > > > any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for whom i > > > > worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his Moon is > > > in > > > > Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with Guru. > > > > still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & > > > > flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious > > vehicles, > > > > great house etc..)> > > > > > > > > > best regards,> > > > > > > > > > Pathak> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > > > Namaste Jyothi,> > > > > > > > > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon> > > > > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed> > > > > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was> > > > > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful> > > > > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I> > > > > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha> > > > > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra> > > > > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata> > > > > much much later!> > > > > > > > > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully> > > > > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i> > > > > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this> > > > > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close> > > > > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up> > > > > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > > > > > > > > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > > > > > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved> > > > > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are> > > > > strong in my chart.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > --------Original Message -------> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many> > > > > > people including my > > > > > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But> > > > > > they dont have the > > > > > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of> > > > > > as the effects of > > > > > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live> > > > > > who doesnt have > > > > > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what> > > > > > combination of > > > > > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so> > > > > > much importance is > > > > > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth> > > > > > lord. But one of > > > > > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the> > > > > > luckiest of all > > > > > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India> > > > > > because of his amazing > > > > > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth> > > > > > which is considered > > > > > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra.> > > > > > In his chart, the > > > > > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the> > > > > > usual rules or yogas > > > > > > > that are said to give great comfort and success.> > > > > > Besides, I have > > > > > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great> > > > > > yogas, but still they > > > > > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary,> > > > > > I have also seen > > > > > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha> > > > > > yogas leading a normal > > > > > > > life without much success. > > > > > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to> > > > > > think that actually > > > > > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate> > > > > > ones success. Am I > > > > > > > right to think so ? Also I have felt that many> > > > > > astrlogers who analyse > > > > > > > celebrity horoscopes in magazines, purposefully> > > > > > glorify the yogas > > > > > > > even if they are bad just because the person is> > > > > > accepted as a > > > > > > > celebrity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected scholars please enlighten me.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Jyothi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info:> > > > > >> > > > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > > > vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Dear Ash For reasons of confidentiality i cannot post the chart. best wishes partha On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:53:37 -0000, ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Lakshmi, Partha et all, > > Intersting case. > Partha, is it possible to post the chart. > > I have a basic quesiton. How are u all consider the event of death. > Is it a benefic event or a malefic event ? > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > Thanks for giving this case...I think it sort of proves what i had > mentioned in a separate mail to Pathak ji. That sun and moon are > never be malefic for matters of ayurdaya...but in other matters they > can be so. The example you gave is a clincher, because the native > lost his job / livelihood, but lived on to tell the story. > > > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > Partha Sarathy <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > Dear Lakshmi ji > > > > Sun and moon could have been exempted from malefic 8th lordship, as > > Atma and manah are not the "dhatus" that can be corrupted. > > > > Now coming to Makara lagna, i have seen a case where sun was > conjunct > > the lagna degree. Sun is vargottama , so is the lagna. I predicted > to > > this person in 98 that he may have trouble in job,. > > He came to me in 2002 and told me that indeed he did have trouble. > But > > the story goes like this, the person was sitting in his cabin when > he > > felt like going out to feel the warmth of sun and have a cup of > > coffee. The factory got fire, and many people died. he escaped. Now > > tell me is sun malefic or benefic . > > best wishes > > partha > > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:28:35 -0800 (PST), lakshmi ramesh > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste Partha and Pathak ji, > > > > > > My moon is thoroughly afflicted being conjunct Saturn, and > aspected by Mars > > > and Rahu. Yet, as Partha pointed out, the strength of Jupiter, > who is the > > > dispositor of both moon and saturn seemed to have ensured the > good results. > > > > > > I do agree that for Dhanur lagna people, Moon, despite being the > 8th lord, > > > may not be that dire a malefic because of the friendly > relationship he > > > shares with Jupiter, but will it be equally so in the case of > Makara lagna > > > and 8th lordship of Sun? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Utpal > > > > > > Good point. That is what i wanted to hear. When rishi says that > 8th > > > lordship is exempted, we have to bear in mind the afflictions > also. > > > Here in your friend's case there are no afflictions, thus he > escaped. > > > If with any other afflictions, there would have been the problems. > > > I have a number of Dhanu lagna cases, and i see moon first. One > such > > > case has Moon in fourth house in digbala, but with saturn. His > mother > > > expired within months. > > > Another guy has moon in 3rd house aspected by Mangal, Shukra, > Budha > > > from Simha rasi. that is the 7th aspect. She is a well known > lady, > > > and is in All India Radio. Many practical cases give us more > > > knowledge than book knowledge. > > > best wishes > > > partha > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste Parthaji, > > > > > > > > Yes sir, you are very right when you ask me to check Affliction > to > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > I just wanted to propose a point that for Dhanu Lagna, if Moon > is > > > > UNAfflicted, may give very good results even if not involved in > > > > Gajakesari yoga. > > > > > > > > with reference to your suggetions, The natives moon is > UNafflicted > > > > in lagna with no planetory expects and 11 th from Guru & sun. > there > > > > are no benefics in Dual rashi except Moon. > > > > > > > > Saturn becomes first rate Marka for Dhanu along with Venus and > its > > > > affliction to moon may have brought the Evil lordship of Moon > to > > > > fructification in evil way and hampered the Karktatva. > > > > correct me if i am wrong > > > > > > > > namaskar > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Utpal > > > > > > > > > > Yes, 8th lordship for sun and moon is exempted by classics. > > > > Parasara > > > > > Rishi says that only Venus is a malefic for Dhanu lagna. > > > > > I have moon in kanya rasi in 10th house. I had four to five > > > > > accidents, and eye problems, and also mother expired during > moon > > > > > dasa. Moon is alone but aspected by saturn. So i wonder about > > > your > > > > > statement on moon dasa for you friend. Just check his chart, > and > > > > see > > > > > if there are benefics in dual signs. And also note the > aspects if > > > > any. > > > > > best wishes > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th > lordship > > > > > doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or Moon > > > > doesn't > > > > > give Malefic results as 8th lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon > dasha > > > > > even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good > results > > > > of > > > > > Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a great > yog > > > > > capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar case > > > > without > > > > > any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for > whom i > > > > > worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his > Moon is > > > > in > > > > > Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with > Guru. > > > > > still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & > > > > > flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious > > > vehicles, > > > > > great house etc..) > > > > > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Pathak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Jyothi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon > > > > > > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed > > > > > > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was > > > > > > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful > > > > > > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I > > > > > > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha > > > > > > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra > > > > > > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata > > > > > > much much later! > > > > > > > > > > > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully > > > > > > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i > > > > > > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this > > > > > > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close > > > > > > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up > > > > > > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > > > > > > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved > > > > > > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are > > > > > > strong in my chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > --------Original Message ------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many > > > > > > > people including my > > > > > > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But > > > > > > > they dont have the > > > > > > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of > > > > > > > as the effects of > > > > > > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live > > > > > > > who doesnt have > > > > > > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what > > > > > > > combination of > > > > > > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so > > > > > > > much importance is > > > > > > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth > > > > > > > lord. But one of > > > > > > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the > > > > > > > luckiest of all > > > > > > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India > > > > > > > because of his amazing > > > > > > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth > > > > > > > which is considered > > > > > > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra. > > > > > > > In his chart, the > > > > > > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the > > > > > > > usual rules or yogas > > > > > > > > that are said to give great comfort and success. > > > > > > > Besides, I have > > > > > > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great > > > > > > > yogas, but still they > > > > > > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary, > > > > > > > I have also seen > > > > > > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha > > > > > > > yogas leading a normal > > > > > > > > life without much success. > > > > > > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to > > > > > > > think that actually > > > > > > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate > > > > > > > ones success. Am I > > > > > > > > right to think so ? 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Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Dear Lakshmi, Yes its nice to hear from you too :=). Here Partha was timing the event of job loss and death (saved). It was said that the native stepped out for some coffee/sunshine and in the interim the factory caught fire and the native got saved. Lagna is Capricorn and sun vargottam so it means sun is in the first 3deg20. So it means sun is in upchaya from 8th house (own house). Without the 7 planets I dont know what the total bindu of Sun is and neither I can make out what MD is running and AD (I am refering to ayanamsa used which could make diff in dashas). I do not like to touch the event of death without full chart and fully rectified as death in my opinion is the most important event and also probably the most complex event that cant be judged just by 1 or 2 planets. For Makar lagna sun is lagna and in 1st 3deg20 and in nakshatra of sun, if its with more than 4 bindus then it might be eager to give results of 8th house one of them being death. Other thing is that Leo would be 10th house from 11th so it might also be eager to give some sudden gains like say gratuity or say insurance money or some kind of 8th house matters. If Sun is with less than 4 bindus then it will oppose 10th house but again I am unable to find out without other planets .... As per KAS when timing death it generally happens in the highest points for 8th house as per the worksheet thereby making it the most benefic event of the chart and selection of Mahadasha is very important. I agree if you are seeing from a selfish view points i.e. from "I" then it maybe considered malefic.. however keeping the "I" aside the person upon death is actually free from the world of moh and maya and maybe physical suffering. I guess its depends on the way one looks at it however for timing such an important death there must be a detailed method. However that being said.. I am still pondering on this one time event of death............ Cheers !!! Ash vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Ash, > > Namaste. When viewed from the perspective of life, death is a daunting malefic experience, but when viewed from the perspective of after-life, death is a benefic new begining.... > > But since we are discussing natal charts, where the focus is more on birth and life and not on death, I guess we consider death a malefic incident. But there can be worse experiences in life than death....like loss of face, loss of a loved person etc > > Nice to hear from you after a long time. > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Lakshmi, Partha et all, > > Intersting case. > Partha, is it possible to post the chart. > > I have a basic quesiton. How are u all consider the event of death. > Is it a benefic event or a malefic event ? > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > Thanks for giving this case...I think it sort of proves what i had > mentioned in a separate mail to Pathak ji. That sun and moon are > never be malefic for matters of ayurdaya...but in other matters they > can be so. The example you gave is a clincher, because the native > lost his job / livelihood, but lived on to tell the story. > > > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > Partha Sarathy <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > Dear Lakshmi ji > > > > Sun and moon could have been exempted from malefic 8th lordship, as > > Atma and manah are not the "dhatus" that can be corrupted. > > > > Now coming to Makara lagna, i have seen a case where sun was > conjunct > > the lagna degree. Sun is vargottama , so is the lagna. I predicted > to > > this person in 98 that he may have trouble in job,. > > He came to me in 2002 and told me that indeed he did have trouble. > But > > the story goes like this, the person was sitting in his cabin when > he > > felt like going out to feel the warmth of sun and have a cup of > > coffee. The factory got fire, and many people died. he escaped. Now > > tell me is sun malefic or benefic . > > best wishes > > partha > > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:28:35 -0800 (PST), lakshmi ramesh > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste Partha and Pathak ji, > > > > > > My moon is thoroughly afflicted being conjunct Saturn, and > aspected by Mars > > > and Rahu. Yet, as Partha pointed out, the strength of Jupiter, > who is the > > > dispositor of both moon and saturn seemed to have ensured the > good results. > > > > > > I do agree that for Dhanur lagna people, Moon, despite being the > 8th lord, > > > may not be that dire a malefic because of the friendly > relationship he > > > shares with Jupiter, but will it be equally so in the case of > Makara lagna > > > and 8th lordship of Sun? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Utpal > > > > > > Good point. That is what i wanted to hear. When rishi says that > 8th > > > lordship is exempted, we have to bear in mind the afflictions > also. > > > Here in your friend's case there are no afflictions, thus he > escaped. > > > If with any other afflictions, there would have been the problems. > > > I have a number of Dhanu lagna cases, and i see moon first. One > such > > > case has Moon in fourth house in digbala, but with saturn. His > mother > > > expired within months. > > > Another guy has moon in 3rd house aspected by Mangal, Shukra, > Budha > > > from Simha rasi. that is the 7th aspect. She is a well known > lady, > > > and is in All India Radio. Many practical cases give us more > > > knowledge than book knowledge. > > > best wishes > > > partha > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste Parthaji, > > > > > > > > Yes sir, you are very right when you ask me to check Affliction > to > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > I just wanted to propose a point that for Dhanu Lagna, if Moon > is > > > > UNAfflicted, may give very good results even if not involved in > > > > Gajakesari yoga. > > > > > > > > with reference to your suggetions, The natives moon is > UNafflicted > > > > in lagna with no planetory expects and 11 th from Guru & sun. > there > > > > are no benefics in Dual rashi except Moon. > > > > > > > > Saturn becomes first rate Marka for Dhanu along with Venus and > its > > > > affliction to moon may have brought the Evil lordship of Moon > to > > > > fructification in evil way and hampered the Karktatva. > > > > correct me if i am wrong > > > > > > > > namaskar > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Utpal > > > > > > > > > > Yes, 8th lordship for sun and moon is exempted by classics. > > > > Parasara > > > > > Rishi says that only Venus is a malefic for Dhanu lagna. > > > > > I have moon in kanya rasi in 10th house. I had four to five > > > > > accidents, and eye problems, and also mother expired during > moon > > > > > dasa. Moon is alone but aspected by saturn. So i wonder about > > > your > > > > > statement on moon dasa for you friend. Just check his chart, > and > > > > see > > > > > if there are benefics in dual signs. And also note the > aspects if > > > > any. > > > > > best wishes > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th > lordship > > > > > doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or Moon > > > > doesn't > > > > > give Malefic results as 8th lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon > dasha > > > > > even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good > results > > > > of > > > > > Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a great > yog > > > > > capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar case > > > > without > > > > > any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for > whom i > > > > > worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his > Moon is > > > > in > > > > > Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with > Guru. > > > > > still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & > > > > > flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious > > > vehicles, > > > > > great house etc..) > > > > > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Pathak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Jyothi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon > > > > > > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed > > > > > > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was > > > > > > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful > > > > > > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I > > > > > > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha > > > > > > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra > > > > > > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata > > > > > > much much later! > > > > > > > > > > > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully > > > > > > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i > > > > > > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this > > > > > > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close > > > > > > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up > > > > > > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > > > > > > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved > > > > > > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are > > > > > > strong in my chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > --------Original Message ------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many > > > > > > > people including my > > > > > > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But > > > > > > > they dont have the > > > > > > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of > > > > > > > as the effects of > > > > > > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live > > > > > > > who doesnt have > > > > > > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what > > > > > > > combination of > > > > > > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so > > > > > > > much importance is > > > > > > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth > > > > > > > lord. But one of > > > > > > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the > > > > > > > luckiest of all > > > > > > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India > > > > > > > because of his amazing > > > > > > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth > > > > > > > which is considered > > > > > > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra. > > > > > > > In his chart, the > > > > > > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the > > > > > > > usual rules or yogas > > > > > > > > that are said to give great comfort and success. > > > > > > > Besides, I have > > > > > > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great > > > > > > > yogas, but still they > > > > > > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary, > > > > > > > I have also seen > > > > > > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha > > > > > > > yogas leading a normal > > > > > > > > life without much success. > > > > > > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to > > > > > > > think that actually > > > > > > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate > > > > > > > ones success. Am I > > > > > > > > right to think so ? 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Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Dear Partha, I respect that. Thanks for the prompt reply. Cheers !!! Ash vedic astrology, Partha Sarathy <partvinu@g...> wrote: > Dear Ash > > For reasons of confidentiality i cannot post the chart. > best wishes > partha > > > > On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:53:37 -0000, ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lakshmi, Partha et all, > > > > Intersting case. > > Partha, is it possible to post the chart. > > > > I have a basic quesiton. How are u all consider the event of death. > > Is it a benefic event or a malefic event ? > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > Thanks for giving this case...I think it sort of proves what i had > > mentioned in a separate mail to Pathak ji. That sun and moon are > > never be malefic for matters of ayurdaya...but in other matters they > > can be so. The example you gave is a clincher, because the native > > lost his job / livelihood, but lived on to tell the story. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Partha Sarathy <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > Dear Lakshmi ji > > > > > > Sun and moon could have been exempted from malefic 8th lordship, as > > > Atma and manah are not the "dhatus" that can be corrupted. > > > > > > Now coming to Makara lagna, i have seen a case where sun was > > conjunct > > > the lagna degree. Sun is vargottama , so is the lagna. I predicted > > to > > > this person in 98 that he may have trouble in job,. > > > He came to me in 2002 and told me that indeed he did have trouble. > > But > > > the story goes like this, the person was sitting in his cabin when > > he > > > felt like going out to feel the warmth of sun and have a cup of > > > coffee. The factory got fire, and many people died. he escaped. Now > > > tell me is sun malefic or benefic . > > > best wishes > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:28:35 -0800 (PST), lakshmi ramesh > > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Namaste Partha and Pathak ji, > > > > > > > > My moon is thoroughly afflicted being conjunct Saturn, and > > aspected by Mars > > > > and Rahu. Yet, as Partha pointed out, the strength of Jupiter, > > who is the > > > > dispositor of both moon and saturn seemed to have ensured the > > good results. > > > > > > > > I do agree that for Dhanur lagna people, Moon, despite being the > > 8th lord, > > > > may not be that dire a malefic because of the friendly > > relationship he > > > > shares with Jupiter, but will it be equally so in the case of > > Makara lagna > > > > and 8th lordship of Sun? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Utpal > > > > > > > > Good point. That is what i wanted to hear. When rishi says that > > 8th > > > > lordship is exempted, we have to bear in mind the afflictions > > also. > > > > Here in your friend's case there are no afflictions, thus he > > escaped. > > > > If with any other afflictions, there would have been the problems. > > > > I have a number of Dhanu lagna cases, and i see moon first. One > > such > > > > case has Moon in fourth house in digbala, but with saturn. His > > mother > > > > expired within months. > > > > Another guy has moon in 3rd house aspected by Mangal, Shukra, > > Budha > > > > from Simha rasi. that is the 7th aspect. She is a well known > > lady, > > > > and is in All India Radio. Many practical cases give us more > > > > knowledge than book knowledge. > > > > best wishes > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Parthaji, > > > > > > > > > > Yes sir, you are very right when you ask me to check Affliction > > to > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > I just wanted to propose a point that for Dhanu Lagna, if Moon > > is > > > > > UNAfflicted, may give very good results even if not involved in > > > > > Gajakesari yoga. > > > > > > > > > > with reference to your suggetions, The natives moon is > > UNafflicted > > > > > in lagna with no planetory expects and 11 th from Guru & sun. > > there > > > > > are no benefics in Dual rashi except Moon. > > > > > > > > > > Saturn becomes first rate Marka for Dhanu along with Venus and > > its > > > > > affliction to moon may have brought the Evil lordship of Moon > > to > > > > > fructification in evil way and hampered the Karktatva. > > > > > correct me if i am wrong > > > > > > > > > > namaskar > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, 8th lordship for sun and moon is exempted by classics. > > > > > Parasara > > > > > > Rishi says that only Venus is a malefic for Dhanu lagna. > > > > > > I have moon in kanya rasi in 10th house. I had four to five > > > > > > accidents, and eye problems, and also mother expired during > > moon > > > > > > dasa. Moon is alone but aspected by saturn. So i wonder about > > > > your > > > > > > statement on moon dasa for you friend. Just check his chart, > > and > > > > > see > > > > > > if there are benefics in dual signs. And also note the > > aspects if > > > > > any. > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th > > lordship > > > > > > doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or Moon > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > give Malefic results as 8th lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon > > dasha > > > > > > even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good > > results > > > > > of > > > > > > Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a great > > yog > > > > > > capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar case > > > > > without > > > > > > any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for > > whom i > > > > > > worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his > > Moon is > > > > > in > > > > > > Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with > > Guru. > > > > > > still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & > > > > > > flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious > > > > vehicles, > > > > > > great house etc..) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pathak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Jyothi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon > > > > > > > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed > > > > > > > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was > > > > > > > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful > > > > > > > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I > > > > > > > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha > > > > > > > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra > > > > > > > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata > > > > > > > much much later! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully > > > > > > > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i > > > > > > > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this > > > > > > > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close > > > > > > > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up > > > > > > > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > > > > > > > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved > > > > > > > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are > > > > > > > strong in my chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > --------Original Message ------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many > > > > > > > > people including my > > > > > > > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But > > > > > > > > they dont have the > > > > > > > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of > > > > > > > > as the effects of > > > > > > > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live > > > > > > > > who doesnt have > > > > > > > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what > > > > > > > > combination of > > > > > > > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so > > > > > > > > much importance is > > > > > > > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth > > > > > > > > lord. But one of > > > > > > > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the > > > > > > > > luckiest of all > > > > > > > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India > > > > > > > > because of his amazing > > > > > > > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth > > > > > > > > which is considered > > > > > > > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra. > > > > > > > > In his chart, the > > > > > > > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the > > > > > > > > usual rules or yogas > > > > > > > > > that are said to give great comfort and success. > > > > > > > > Besides, I have > > > > > > > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great > > > > > > > > yogas, but still they > > > > > > > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary, > > > > > > > > I have also seen > > > > > > > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha > > > > > > > > yogas leading a normal > > > > > > > > > life without much success. > > > > > > > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to > > > > > > > > think that actually > > > > > > > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate > > > > > > > > ones success. Am I > > > > > > > > > right to think so ? Also I have felt that many > > > > > > > > astrlogers who analyse > > > > > > > > > celebrity horoscopes in magazines, purposefully > > > > > > > > glorify the yogas > > > > > > > > > even if they are bad just because the person is > > > > > > > > accepted as a > > > > > > > > > celebrity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected scholars please enlighten me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Jyothi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > > > > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Namaste Parthaji, Laxmiji Sun & Moon Lordship over 8th house is intresting mystery. discussions may continue for ever on the issue. w.r.t Laxmiji's query about Makara Lagna & Sun's role, I request you to check the following details- My best friend- My soul mate - has Makara Lagna with Sun & Mercury in Lagna aspected by Saturn from 4th house.Saturn conjucts Moon. Sun Dasha Period proved very beneficial during which he started & established his business and made good reputation during those 6 years. his father also flourished in his own business field. though it was mentally & family relation wise very trying period. he put in tremendous efforts to establish his business in Sun mahadasha. Sun is also his Atmakarka. So practical example really throws more light on the issue. regards pathak vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Partha, > > Thanks for giving this case...I think it sort of proves what i had mentioned in a separate mail to Pathak ji. That sun and moon are never be malefic for matters of ayurdaya...but in other matters they can be so. The example you gave is a clincher, because the native lost his job / livelihood, but lived on to tell the story. > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > > > > Partha Sarathy <partvinu@g...> wrote: > Dear Lakshmi ji > > Sun and moon could have been exempted from malefic 8th lordship, as > Atma and manah are not the "dhatus" that can be corrupted. > > Now coming to Makara lagna, i have seen a case where sun was conjunct > the lagna degree. Sun is vargottama , so is the lagna. I predicted to > this person in 98 that he may have trouble in job,. > He came to me in 2002 and told me that indeed he did have trouble. But > the story goes like this, the person was sitting in his cabin when he > felt like going out to feel the warmth of sun and have a cup of > coffee. The factory got fire, and many people died. he escaped. Now > tell me is sun malefic or benefic . > best wishes > partha > > > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:28:35 -0800 (PST), lakshmi ramesh > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste Partha and Pathak ji, > > > > My moon is thoroughly afflicted being conjunct Saturn, and aspected by Mars > > and Rahu. Yet, as Partha pointed out, the strength of Jupiter, who is the > > dispositor of both moon and saturn seemed to have ensured the good results. > > > > I do agree that for Dhanur lagna people, Moon, despite being the 8th lord, > > may not be that dire a malefic because of the friendly relationship he > > shares with Jupiter, but will it be equally so in the case of Makara lagna > > and 8th lordship of Sun? > > > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > Dear Utpal > > > > Good point. That is what i wanted to hear. When rishi says that 8th > > lordship is exempted, we have to bear in mind the afflictions also. > > Here in your friend's case there are no afflictions, thus he escaped. > > If with any other afflictions, there would have been the problems. > > I have a number of Dhanu lagna cases, and i see moon first. One such > > case has Moon in fourth house in digbala, but with saturn. His mother > > expired within months. > > Another guy has moon in 3rd house aspected by Mangal, Shukra, Budha > > from Simha rasi. that is the 7th aspect. She is a well known lady, > > and is in All India Radio. Many practical cases give us more > > knowledge than book knowledge. > > best wishes > > partha > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Parthaji, > > > > > > Yes sir, you are very right when you ask me to check Affliction to > > > Moon. > > > > > > I just wanted to propose a point that for Dhanu Lagna, if Moon is > > > UNAfflicted, may give very good results even if not involved in > > > Gajakesari yoga. > > > > > > with reference to your suggetions, The natives moon is UNafflicted > > > in lagna with no planetory expects and 11 th from Guru & sun. there > > > are no benefics in Dual rashi except Moon. > > > > > > Saturn becomes first rate Marka for Dhanu along with Venus and its > > > affliction to moon may have brought the Evil lordship of Moon to > > > fructification in evil way and hampered the Karktatva. > > > correct me if i am wrong > > > > > > namaskar > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Utpal > > > > > > > > Yes, 8th lordship for sun and moon is exempted by classics. > > > Parasara > > > > Rishi says that only Venus is a malefic for Dhanu lagna. > > > > I have moon in kanya rasi in 10th house. I had four to five > > > > accidents, and eye problems, and also mother expired during moon > > > > dasa. Moon is alone but aspected by saturn. So i wonder about > > your > > > > statement on moon dasa for you friend. Just check his chart, and > > > see > > > > if there are benefics in dual signs. And also note the aspects if > > > any. > > > > best wishes > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > > > > > Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th lordship > > > > doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or Moon > > > doesn't > > > > give Malefic results as 8th lord. > > > > > > > > > > you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon dasha > > > > even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good results > > > of > > > > Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a great yog > > > > capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar case > > > without > > > > any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for whom i > > > > worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his Moon is > > > in > > > > Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with Guru. > > > > still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & > > > > flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious > > vehicles, > > > > great house etc..) > > > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > > > > Pathak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Jyothi, > > > > > > > > > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon > > > > > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed > > > > > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was > > > > > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful > > > > > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I > > > > > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha > > > > > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra > > > > > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata > > > > > much much later! > > > > > > > > > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully > > > > > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i > > > > > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this > > > > > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close > > > > > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up > > > > > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > > > > > > > > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > > > > > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved > > > > > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are > > > > > strong in my chart. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > --------Original Message ------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many > > > > > > people including my > > > > > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But > > > > > > they dont have the > > > > > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of > > > > > > as the effects of > > > > > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live > > > > > > who doesnt have > > > > > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what > > > > > > combination of > > > > > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so > > > > > > much importance is > > > > > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth > > > > > > lord. But one of > > > > > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the > > > > > > luckiest of all > > > > > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India > > > > > > because of his amazing > > > > > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth > > > > > > which is considered > > > > > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra. > > > > > > In his chart, the > > > > > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the > > > > > > usual rules or yogas > > > > > > > that are said to give great comfort and success. > > > > > > Besides, I have > > > > > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great > > > > > > yogas, but still they > > > > > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary, > > > > > > I have also seen > > > > > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha > > > > > > yogas leading a normal > > > > > > > life without much success. > > > > > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to > > > > > > think that actually > > > > > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate > > > > > > ones success. Am I > > > > > > > right to think so ? 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Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 If available, give me birth details with correct TOB in all such cases who had flourished in 8th lord's dasa. It will help a research. Give facts of what happened, not just one's subjective thinking. Remember, Bush is ruling US in 8th lord's dasa and Indira Gandhi too established herself in 8th lord's dasa only. Praveen Kumar (Mumbai) - utpal pathak vedic astrology 29, 03, 2005 9:52 AM Re: Re [vedic astrology] Is GajaKesari yoga so good? Namaste Parthaji,Yes sir, you are very right when you ask me to check Affliction to Moon.I just wanted to propose a point that for Dhanu Lagna, if Moon is UNAfflicted, may give very good results even if not involved in Gajakesari yoga.with reference to your suggetions, The natives moon is UNafflicted in lagna with no planetory expects and 11 th from Guru & sun. there are no benefics in Dual rashi except Moon.Saturn becomes first rate Marka for Dhanu along with Venus and its affliction to moon may have brought the Evil lordship of Moon to fructification in evil way and hampered the Karktatva.correct me if i am wrongnamaskarUtpalvedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote:> > Hello Utpal> > Yes, 8th lordship for sun and moon is exempted by classics. Parasara > Rishi says that only Venus is a malefic for Dhanu lagna.> I have moon in kanya rasi in 10th house. I had four to five > accidents, and eye problems, and also mother expired during moon > dasa. Moon is alone but aspected by saturn. So i wonder about your > statement on moon dasa for you friend. Just check his chart, and see > if there are benefics in dual signs. And also note the aspects if any.> best wishes> partha> > > --- In vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > Namaskar,> > > > Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th lordship > doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or Moon doesn't > give Malefic results as 8th lord.> > > > you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon dasha > even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good results of > Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a great yog > capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar case without > any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for whom i > worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his Moon is in > Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with Guru. > still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & > flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious vehicles, > great house etc..)> > > > best regards,> > > > Pathak> > > > > > lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Namaste Jyothi,> > > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon> > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed> > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was> > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful> > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I> > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha> > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra> > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata> > much much later!> > > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully> > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i> > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this> > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close> > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up> > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved> > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are> > strong in my chart.> > > > Regards,> > Lakshmi> > > > --------Original Message -------> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs,> > > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many> > > people including my > > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga .. But> > > they dont have the > > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of> > > as the effects of > > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live> > > who doesnt have > > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what> > > combination of > > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so> > > much importance is > > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth> > > lord. But one of > > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the> > > luckiest of all > > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India> > > because of his amazing > > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth> > > which is considered > > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra.> > > In his chart, the > > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the> > > usual rules or yogas > > > > that are said to give great comfort and success.> > > Besides, I have > > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great> > > yogas, but still they > > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary,> > > I have also seen > > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha> > > yogas leading a normal > > > > life without much success. > > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to> > > think that actually > > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate> > > ones success. Am I > > > > right to think so ? 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Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Respected members, i would like to add to what Utpal ji said.. i have makar lagna with SUN , mercury and mars.my Sun maha dasa started in 2001.I finished my education in 2003 and after some struggle i got a nice job in MNC and i think i'm doing ok now.Also my dad expanded his business by moving to another city.Overall it required a lot of hard work but nothing bad.I also read Aditya Stotram daily. Regards Gaurav vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > Namaste Parthaji, Laxmiji > > Sun & Moon Lordship over 8th house is intresting mystery. > discussions may continue for ever on the issue. > > w.r.t Laxmiji's query about Makara Lagna & Sun's role, I request you > to check the following details- > > My best friend- My soul mate - has Makara Lagna with Sun & Mercury > in Lagna aspected by Saturn from 4th house.Saturn conjucts Moon. > > Sun Dasha Period proved very beneficial during which he started & > established his business and made good reputation during those 6 > years. his father also flourished in his own business field. though > it was mentally & family relation wise very trying period. he put in > tremendous efforts to establish his business in Sun mahadasha. Sun > is also his Atmakarka. > > So practical example really throws more light on the issue. > > regards > > pathak > > > > vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > Thanks for giving this case...I think it sort of proves what i had > mentioned in a separate mail to Pathak ji. That sun and moon are > never be malefic for matters of ayurdaya...but in other matters they > can be so. The example you gave is a clincher, because the native > lost his job / livelihood, but lived on to tell the story. > > > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > Partha Sarathy <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > Dear Lakshmi ji > > > > Sun and moon could have been exempted from malefic 8th lordship, as > > Atma and manah are not the "dhatus" that can be corrupted. > > > > Now coming to Makara lagna, i have seen a case where sun was > conjunct > > the lagna degree. Sun is vargottama , so is the lagna. I predicted > to > > this person in 98 that he may have trouble in job,. > > He came to me in 2002 and told me that indeed he did have trouble. > But > > the story goes like this, the person was sitting in his cabin when > he > > felt like going out to feel the warmth of sun and have a cup of > > coffee. The factory got fire, and many people died. he escaped. Now > > tell me is sun malefic or benefic . > > best wishes > > partha > > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:28:35 -0800 (PST), lakshmi ramesh > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste Partha and Pathak ji, > > > > > > My moon is thoroughly afflicted being conjunct Saturn, and > aspected by Mars > > > and Rahu. Yet, as Partha pointed out, the strength of Jupiter, > who is the > > > dispositor of both moon and saturn seemed to have ensured the > good results. > > > > > > I do agree that for Dhanur lagna people, Moon, despite being the > 8th lord, > > > may not be that dire a malefic because of the friendly > relationship he > > > shares with Jupiter, but will it be equally so in the case of > Makara lagna > > > and 8th lordship of Sun? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Utpal > > > > > > Good point. That is what i wanted to hear. When rishi says that > 8th > > > lordship is exempted, we have to bear in mind the afflictions > also. > > > Here in your friend's case there are no afflictions, thus he > escaped. > > > If with any other afflictions, there would have been the > problems. > > > I have a number of Dhanu lagna cases, and i see moon first. One > such > > > case has Moon in fourth house in digbala, but with saturn. His > mother > > > expired within months. > > > Another guy has moon in 3rd house aspected by Mangal, Shukra, > Budha > > > from Simha rasi. that is the 7th aspect. She is a well known > lady, > > > and is in All India Radio. Many practical cases give us more > > > knowledge than book knowledge. > > > best wishes > > > partha > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste Parthaji, > > > > > > > > Yes sir, you are very right when you ask me to check > Affliction to > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > I just wanted to propose a point that for Dhanu Lagna, if Moon > is > > > > UNAfflicted, may give very good results even if not involved > in > > > > Gajakesari yoga. > > > > > > > > with reference to your suggetions, The natives moon is > UNafflicted > > > > in lagna with no planetory expects and 11 th from Guru & sun. > there > > > > are no benefics in Dual rashi except Moon. > > > > > > > > Saturn becomes first rate Marka for Dhanu along with Venus and > its > > > > affliction to moon may have brought the Evil lordship of Moon > to > > > > fructification in evil way and hampered the Karktatva. > > > > correct me if i am wrong > > > > > > > > namaskar > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Utpal > > > > > > > > > > Yes, 8th lordship for sun and moon is exempted by classics. > > > > Parasara > > > > > Rishi says that only Venus is a malefic for Dhanu lagna. > > > > > I have moon in kanya rasi in 10th house. I had four to five > > > > > accidents, and eye problems, and also mother expired during > moon > > > > > dasa. Moon is alone but aspected by saturn. So i wonder > about > > > your > > > > > statement on moon dasa for you friend. Just check his chart, > and > > > > see > > > > > if there are benefics in dual signs. And also note the > aspects if > > > > any. > > > > > best wishes > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th > lordship > > > > > doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or Moon > > > > doesn't > > > > > give Malefic results as 8th lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon > dasha > > > > > even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good > results > > > > of > > > > > Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a > great yog > > > > > capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar case > > > > without > > > > > any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for > whom i > > > > > worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his > Moon is > > > > in > > > > > Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with > Guru. > > > > > still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & > > > > > flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious > > > vehicles, > > > > > great house etc..) > > > > > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Pathak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Jyothi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon > > > > > > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed > > > > > > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was > > > > > > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful > > > > > > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I > > > > > > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha > > > > > > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra > > > > > > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata > > > > > > much much later! > > > > > > > > > > > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully > > > > > > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i > > > > > > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this > > > > > > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close > > > > > > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up > > > > > > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > > > > > > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved > > > > > > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are > > > > > > strong in my chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > --------Original Message ------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many > > > > > > > people including my > > > > > > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But > > > > > > > they dont have the > > > > > > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of > > > > > > > as the effects of > > > > > > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live > > > > > > > who doesnt have > > > > > > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what > > > > > > > combination of > > > > > > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so > > > > > > > much importance is > > > > > > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth > > > > > > > lord. But one of > > > > > > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the > > > > > > > luckiest of all > > > > > > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India > > > > > > > because of his amazing > > > > > > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth > > > > > > > which is considered > > > > > > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra. > > > > > > > In his chart, the > > > > > > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the > > > > > > > usual rules or yogas > > > > > > > > that are said to give great comfort and success. > > > > > > > Besides, I have > > > > > > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great > > > > > > > yogas, but still they > > > > > > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary, > > > > > > > I have also seen > > > > > > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha > > > > > > > yogas leading a normal > > > > > > > > life without much success. > > > > > > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to > > > > > > > think that actually > > > > > > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate > > > > > > > ones success. Am I > > > > > > > > right to think so ? 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Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Respected Members, Even I have Gaja-Kesari Yoga as told by some astrologers(Moon with jupiter in 3rd house Dhanu Rashi, lagna is Libra) and I really feel like flying since the mahadasa of Moon started last year april 2004. It doubled my salary within few months and gave me The best IT company in India. I am not sure if it is the effect of Gajakesari Yoga. You can study my case for this discussion. My Details: July 23, 1972 Time: 13:50:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 30 E 34' 00", 75 N 56' 00" Malerkotla, India Regards, Harcharan vedic astrology, "gbin1979" <gbin1979> wrote: > > Respected members, > i would like to add to what Utpal ji said.. i have > makar lagna with SUN , mercury and mars.my Sun maha dasa started in > 2001.I finished my education in 2003 and after some struggle i got a > nice job in MNC and i think i'm doing ok now.Also my dad expanded his > business by moving to another city.Overall it required a lot of hard > work but nothing bad.I also read Aditya Stotram daily. > > Regards > Gaurav > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > Namaste Parthaji, Laxmiji > > > > Sun & Moon Lordship over 8th house is intresting mystery. > > discussions may continue for ever on the issue. > > > > w.r.t Laxmiji's query about Makara Lagna & Sun's role, I request > you > > to check the following details- > > > > My best friend- My soul mate - has Makara Lagna with Sun & Mercury > > in Lagna aspected by Saturn from 4th house.Saturn conjucts Moon. > > > > Sun Dasha Period proved very beneficial during which he started & > > established his business and made good reputation during those 6 > > years. his father also flourished in his own business field. though > > it was mentally & family relation wise very trying period. he put > in > > tremendous efforts to establish his business in Sun mahadasha. Sun > > is also his Atmakarka. > > > > So practical example really throws more light on the issue. > > > > regards > > > > pathak > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > Thanks for giving this case...I think it sort of proves what i > had > > mentioned in a separate mail to Pathak ji. That sun and moon are > > never be malefic for matters of ayurdaya...but in other matters > they > > can be so. The example you gave is a clincher, because the native > > lost his job / livelihood, but lived on to tell the story. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Partha Sarathy <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > Dear Lakshmi ji > > > > > > Sun and moon could have been exempted from malefic 8th lordship, > as > > > Atma and manah are not the "dhatus" that can be corrupted. > > > > > > Now coming to Makara lagna, i have seen a case where sun was > > conjunct > > > the lagna degree. Sun is vargottama , so is the lagna. I > predicted > > to > > > this person in 98 that he may have trouble in job,. > > > He came to me in 2002 and told me that indeed he did have > trouble. > > But > > > the story goes like this, the person was sitting in his cabin > when > > he > > > felt like going out to feel the warmth of sun and have a cup of > > > coffee. The factory got fire, and many people died. he escaped. > Now > > > tell me is sun malefic or benefic . > > > best wishes > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:28:35 -0800 (PST), lakshmi ramesh > > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Namaste Partha and Pathak ji, > > > > > > > > My moon is thoroughly afflicted being conjunct Saturn, and > > aspected by Mars > > > > and Rahu. Yet, as Partha pointed out, the strength of Jupiter, > > who is the > > > > dispositor of both moon and saturn seemed to have ensured the > > good results. > > > > > > > > I do agree that for Dhanur lagna people, Moon, despite being > the > > 8th lord, > > > > may not be that dire a malefic because of the friendly > > relationship he > > > > shares with Jupiter, but will it be equally so in the case of > > Makara lagna > > > > and 8th lordship of Sun? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Utpal > > > > > > > > Good point. That is what i wanted to hear. When rishi says that > > 8th > > > > lordship is exempted, we have to bear in mind the afflictions > > also. > > > > Here in your friend's case there are no afflictions, thus he > > escaped. > > > > If with any other afflictions, there would have been the > > problems. > > > > I have a number of Dhanu lagna cases, and i see moon first. One > > such > > > > case has Moon in fourth house in digbala, but with saturn. His > > mother > > > > expired within months. > > > > Another guy has moon in 3rd house aspected by Mangal, Shukra, > > Budha > > > > from Simha rasi. that is the 7th aspect. She is a well known > > lady, > > > > and is in All India Radio. Many practical cases give us more > > > > knowledge than book knowledge. > > > > best wishes > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Parthaji, > > > > > > > > > > Yes sir, you are very right when you ask me to check > > Affliction to > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > I just wanted to propose a point that for Dhanu Lagna, if > Moon > > is > > > > > UNAfflicted, may give very good results even if not involved > > in > > > > > Gajakesari yoga. > > > > > > > > > > with reference to your suggetions, The natives moon is > > UNafflicted > > > > > in lagna with no planetory expects and 11 th from Guru & sun. > > there > > > > > are no benefics in Dual rashi except Moon. > > > > > > > > > > Saturn becomes first rate Marka for Dhanu along with Venus > and > > its > > > > > affliction to moon may have brought the Evil lordship of Moon > > to > > > > > fructification in evil way and hampered the Karktatva. > > > > > correct me if i am wrong > > > > > > > > > > namaskar > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, 8th lordship for sun and moon is exempted by classics. > > > > > Parasara > > > > > > Rishi says that only Venus is a malefic for Dhanu lagna. > > > > > > I have moon in kanya rasi in 10th house. I had four to five > > > > > > accidents, and eye problems, and also mother expired during > > moon > > > > > > dasa. Moon is alone but aspected by saturn. So i wonder > > about > > > > your > > > > > > statement on moon dasa for you friend. Just check his > chart, > > and > > > > > see > > > > > > if there are benefics in dual signs. And also note the > > aspects if > > > > > any. > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th > > lordship > > > > > > doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or > Moon > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > give Malefic results as 8th lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon > > dasha > > > > > > even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good > > results > > > > > of > > > > > > Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a > > great yog > > > > > > capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar > case > > > > > without > > > > > > any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for > > whom i > > > > > > worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his > > Moon is > > > > > in > > > > > > Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with > > Guru. > > > > > > still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & > > > > > > flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious > > > > vehicles, > > > > > > great house etc..) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pathak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Jyothi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon > > > > > > > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed > > > > > > > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was > > > > > > > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful > > > > > > > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I > > > > > > > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha > > > > > > > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra > > > > > > > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata > > > > > > > much much later! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully > > > > > > > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i > > > > > > > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this > > > > > > > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close > > > > > > > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up > > > > > > > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > > > > > > > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved > > > > > > > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are > > > > > > > strong in my chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > --------Original Message ------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many > > > > > > > > people including my > > > > > > > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But > > > > > > > > they dont have the > > > > > > > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of > > > > > > > > as the effects of > > > > > > > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live > > > > > > > > who doesnt have > > > > > > > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what > > > > > > > > combination of > > > > > > > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so > > > > > > > > much importance is > > > > > > > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth > > > > > > > > lord. But one of > > > > > > > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the > > > > > > > > luckiest of all > > > > > > > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India > > > > > > > > because of his amazing > > > > > > > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth > > > > > > > > which is considered > > > > > > > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra. > > > > > > > > In his chart, the > > > > > > > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the > > > > > > > > usual rules or yogas > > > > > > > > > that are said to give great comfort and success. > > > > > > > > Besides, I have > > > > > > > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great > > > > > > > > yogas, but still they > > > > > > > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary, > > > > > > > > I have also seen > > > > > > > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha > > > > > > > > yogas leading a normal > > > > > > > > > life without much success. > > > > > > > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to > > > > > > > > think that actually > > > > > > > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate > > > > > > > > ones success. Am I > > > > > > > > > right to think so ? Also I have felt that many > > > > > > > > astrlogers who analyse > > > > > > > > > celebrity horoscopes in magazines, purposefully > > > > > > > > glorify the yogas > > > > > > > > > even if they are bad just because the person is > > > > > > > > accepted as a > > > > > > > > > celebrity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected scholars please enlighten me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Jyothi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > > > > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Yes, your Moon dasa will be excellent. Being 10th lord it will give you recognition too and you will be in demand. In Chara dasa it is Cap running. Now please let me know: 1) Did you earn some extra qualification (like certification etc) or underwentsome training during Cap-Tau (Mar 2004 to Nov 2004) ? 2) Did the above period increase your dignity etc ? Praveen Kumar (Mumbai) - Harcharan vedic astrology 29, 03, 2005 7:16 PM Re: Re [vedic astrology] Is GajaKesari yoga so good? Respected Members,Even I have Gaja-Kesari Yoga as told by some astrologers(Moon with jupiter in 3rd house Dhanu Rashi, lagna is Libra) and I really feel like flying since the mahadasa of Moon started last year april 2004. It doubled my salary within few months and gave me The best IT company in India. I am not sure if it is the effect of Gajakesari Yoga.You can study my case for this discussion. My Details: July 23, 1972Time: 13:50:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 30 E 34' 00", 75 N 56' 00" Malerkotla, IndiaRegards,Harcharanvedic astrology, "gbin1979" <gbin1979> wrote:> > Respected members,> i would like to add to what Utpal ji said.. i have > makar lagna with SUN , mercury and mars.my Sun maha dasa started in > 2001.I finished my education in 2003 and after some struggle i got a > nice job in MNC and i think i'm doing ok now.Also my dad expanded his > business by moving to another city.Overall it required a lot of hard > work but nothing bad.I also read Aditya Stotram daily.> > Regards> Gaurav> vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > > Namaste Parthaji, Laxmiji> > > > Sun & Moon Lordship over 8th house is intresting mystery. > > discussions may continue for ever on the issue.> > > > w.r.t Laxmiji's query about Makara Lagna & Sun's role, I request > you > > to check the following details-> > > > My best friend- My soul mate - has Makara Lagna with Sun & Mercury > > in Lagna aspected by Saturn from 4th house.Saturn conjucts Moon.> > > > Sun Dasha Period proved very beneficial during which he started & > > established his business and made good reputation during those 6 > > years. his father also flourished in his own business field. though > > it was mentally & family relation wise very trying period. he put > in > > tremendous efforts to establish his business in Sun mahadasha. Sun > > is also his Atmakarka.> > > > So practical example really throws more light on the issue.> > > > regards> > > > pathak > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > Dear Partha,> > > > > > Thanks for giving this case...I think it sort of proves what i > had > > mentioned in a separate mail to Pathak ji. That sun and moon are > > never be malefic for matters of ayurdaya...but in other matters > they > > can be so. The example you gave is a clincher, because the native > > lost his job / livelihood, but lived on to tell the story.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Partha Sarathy <partvinu@g...> wrote:> > > Dear Lakshmi ji> > > > > > Sun and moon could have been exempted from malefic 8th lordship, > as> > > Atma and manah are not the "dhatus" that can be corrupted.> > > > > > Now coming to Makara lagna, i have seen a case where sun was > > conjunct> > > the lagna degree. Sun is vargottama , so is the lagna. I > predicted > > to> > > this person in 98 that he may have trouble in job,.> > > He came to me in 2002 and told me that indeed he did have > trouble. > > But> > > the story goes like this, the person was sitting in his cabin > when > > he> > > felt like going out to feel the warmth of sun and have a cup of> > > coffee. The factory got fire, and many people died. he escaped. > Now> > > tell me is sun malefic or benefic .> > > best wishes> > > partha> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:28:35 -0800 (PST), lakshmi ramesh> > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > Namaste Partha and Pathak ji,> > > > > > > > My moon is thoroughly afflicted being conjunct Saturn, and > > aspected by Mars> > > > and Rahu. Yet, as Partha pointed out, the strength of Jupiter, > > who is the> > > > dispositor of both moon and saturn seemed to have ensured the > > good results.> > > > > > > > I do agree that for Dhanur lagna people, Moon, despite being > the > > 8th lord,> > > > may not be that dire a malefic because of the friendly > > relationship he> > > > shares with Jupiter, but will it be equally so in the case of > > Makara lagna> > > > and 8th lordship of Sun?> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Utpal> > > > > > > > Good point. That is what i wanted to hear. When rishi says that > > 8th > > > > lordship is exempted, we have to bear in mind the afflictions > > also.> > > > Here in your friend's case there are no afflictions, thus he > > escaped. > > > > If with any other afflictions, there would have been the > > problems.> > > > I have a number of Dhanu lagna cases, and i see moon first. One > > such > > > > case has Moon in fourth house in digbala, but with saturn. His > > mother > > > > expired within months.> > > > Another guy has moon in 3rd house aspected by Mangal, Shukra, > > Budha > > > > from Simha rasi. that is the 7th aspect. She is a well known > > lady, > > > > and is in All India Radio. Many practical cases give us more > > > > knowledge than book knowledge. > > > > best wishes> > > > partha> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Namaste Parthaji,> > > > > > > > > > Yes sir, you are very right when you ask me to check > > Affliction to > > > > > Moon.> > > > > > > > > > I just wanted to propose a point that for Dhanu Lagna, if > Moon > > is > > > > > UNAfflicted, may give very good results even if not involved > > in > > > > > Gajakesari yoga.> > > > > > > > > > with reference to your suggetions, The natives moon is > > UNafflicted > > > > > in lagna with no planetory expects and 11 th from Guru & sun. > > there > > > > > are no benefics in Dual rashi except Moon.> > > > > > > > > > Saturn becomes first rate Marka for Dhanu along with Venus > and > > its > > > > > affliction to moon may have brought the Evil lordship of Moon > > to > > > > > fructification in evil way and hampered the Karktatva.> > > > > correct me if i am wrong> > > > > > > > > > namaskar> > > > > Utpal> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Utpal> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, 8th lordship for sun and moon is exempted by classics. > > > > > Parasara > > > > > > Rishi says that only Venus is a malefic for Dhanu lagna.> > > > > > I have moon in kanya rasi in 10th house. I had four to five > > > > > > accidents, and eye problems, and also mother expired during > > moon > > > > > > dasa. Moon is alone but aspected by saturn. So i wonder > > about > > > > your > > > > > > statement on moon dasa for you friend. Just check his > chart, > > and > > > > > see > > > > > > if there are benefics in dual signs. And also note the > > aspects if > > > > > any.> > > > > > best wishes> > > > > > partha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th > > lordship > > > > > > doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or > Moon > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > give Malefic results as 8th lord.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon > > dasha > > > > > > even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good > > results > > > > > of > > > > > > Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a > > great yog > > > > > > capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar > case > > > > > without > > > > > > any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for > > whom i > > > > > > worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his > > Moon is > > > > > in > > > > > > Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with > > Guru. > > > > > > still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & > > > > > > flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious > > > > vehicles, > > > > > > great house etc..)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > best regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pathak> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Jyothi,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon> > > > > > > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed> > > > > > > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was> > > > > > > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful> > > > > > > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I> > > > > > > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha> > > > > > > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra> > > > > > > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata> > > > > > > much much later!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully> > > > > > > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i> > > > > > > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this> > > > > > > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close> > > > > > > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up> > > > > > > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > > > > > > > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved> > > > > > > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are> > > > > > > strong in my chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > --------Original Message -------> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many> > > > > > > > people including my > > > > > > > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But> > > > > > > > they dont have the > > > > > > > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of> > > > > > > > as the effects of > > > > > > > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live> > > > > > > > who doesnt have > > > > > > > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what> > > > > > > > combination of > > > > > > > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so> > > > > > > > much importance is > > > > > > > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth> > > > > > > > lord. But one of > > > > > > > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the> > > > > > > > luckiest of all > > > > > > > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India> > > > > > > > because of his amazing > > > > > > > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth> > > > > > > > which is considered > > > > > > > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra.> > > > > > > > In his chart, the > > > > > > > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the> > > > > > > > usual rules or yogas > > > > > > > > > that are said to give great comfort and success.> > > > > > > > Besides, I have > > > > > > > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great> > > > > > > > yogas, but still they > > > > > > > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary,> > > > > > > > I have also seen > > > > > > > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha> > > > > > > > yogas leading a normal > > > > > > > > > life without much success. > > > > > > > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to> > > > > > > > think that actually > > > > > > > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate> > > > > > > > ones success. Am I > > > > > > > > > right to think so ? 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Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Namaste Gaurav and Pathak, Thank you for replying to my query. For my further understanding, could you please elaborate on : a) If sun dasa resulted in physical separation between father & son, either for professional reasons or personal reasons b) how close is Mercury / Mars to the sun? c) If the data is not confidential, can the example charts be shared with us for a more informed discussion? Thanking you in anticipation. Regards, Lakshmi gbin1979 <gbin1979 > wrote: Respected members, i would like to add to what Utpal ji said.. i have makar lagna with SUN , mercury and mars.my Sun maha dasa started in 2001.I finished my education in 2003 and after some struggle i got a nice job in MNC and i think i'm doing ok now.Also my dad expanded his business by moving to another city.Overall it required a lot of hard work but nothing bad.I also read Aditya Stotram daily.RegardsGauravvedic astrology, "utpal pathak" <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > Namaste Parthaji, Laxmiji> > Sun & Moon Lordship over 8th house is intresting mystery. > discussions may continue for ever on the issue.> > w.r.t Laxmiji's query about Makara Lagna & Sun's role, I request you > to check the following details-> > My best friend- My soul mate - has Makara Lagna with Sun & Mercury > in Lagna aspected by Saturn from 4th house.Saturn conjucts Moon.> > Sun Dasha Period proved very beneficial during which he started & > established his business and made good reputation during those 6 > years. his father also flourished in his own business field. though > it was mentally & family relation wise very trying period. he put in > tremendous efforts to establish his business in Sun mahadasha. Sun > is also his Atmakarka.> > So practical example really throws more light on the issue.> > regards> > pathak > > > > vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Dear Partha,> > > > Thanks for giving this case...I think it sort of proves what i had > mentioned in a separate mail to Pathak ji. That sun and moon are > never be malefic for matters of ayurdaya...but in other matters they > can be so. The example you gave is a clincher, because the native > lost his job / livelihood, but lived on to tell the story.> > > > Regards,> > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > Partha Sarathy <partvinu@g...> wrote:> > Dear Lakshmi ji> > > > Sun and moon could have been exempted from malefic 8th lordship, as> > Atma and manah are not the "dhatus" that can be corrupted.> > > > Now coming to Makara lagna, i have seen a case where sun was > conjunct> > the lagna degree. Sun is vargottama , so is the lagna. I predicted > to> > this person in 98 that he may have trouble in job,.> > He came to me in 2002 and told me that indeed he did have trouble. > But> > the story goes like this, the person was sitting in his cabin when > he> > felt like going out to feel the warmth of sun and have a cup of> > coffee. The factory got fire, and many people died. he escaped. Now> > tell me is sun malefic or benefic .> > best wishes> > partha> > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:28:35 -0800 (PST), lakshmi ramesh> > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > Namaste Partha and Pathak ji,> > > > > > My moon is thoroughly afflicted being conjunct Saturn, and > aspected by Mars> > > and Rahu. Yet, as Partha pointed out, the strength of Jupiter, > who is the> > > dispositor of both moon and saturn seemed to have ensured the > good results.> > > > > > I do agree that for Dhanur lagna people, Moon, despite being the > 8th lord,> > > may not be that dire a malefic because of the friendly > relationship he> > > shares with Jupiter, but will it be equally so in the case of > Makara lagna> > > and 8th lordship of Sun?> > > > > > Regards,> > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Utpal> > > > > > Good point. That is what i wanted to hear. When rishi says that > 8th > > > lordship is exempted, we have to bear in mind the afflictions > also.> > > Here in your friend's case there are no afflictions, thus he > escaped. > > > If with any other afflictions, there would have been the > problems.> > > I have a number of Dhanu lagna cases, and i see moon first. One > such > > > case has Moon in fourth house in digbala, but with saturn. His > mother > > > expired within months.> > > Another guy has moon in 3rd house aspected by Mangal, Shukra, > Budha > > > from Simha rasi. that is the 7th aspect. She is a well known > lady, > > > and is in All India Radio. Many practical cases give us more > > > knowledge than book knowledge. > > > best wishes> > > partha> > > > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > > > > > > Namaste Parthaji,> > > > > > > > Yes sir, you are very right when you ask me to check > Affliction to > > > > Moon.> > > > > > > > I just wanted to propose a point that for Dhanu Lagna, if Moon > is > > > > UNAfflicted, may give very good results even if not involved > in > > > > Gajakesari yoga.> > > > > > > > with reference to your suggetions, The natives moon is > UNafflicted > > > > in lagna with no planetory expects and 11 th from Guru & sun. > there > > > > are no benefics in Dual rashi except Moon.> > > > > > > > Saturn becomes first rate Marka for Dhanu along with Venus and > its > > > > affliction to moon may have brought the Evil lordship of Moon > to > > > > fructification in evil way and hampered the Karktatva.> > > > correct me if i am wrong> > > > > > > > namaskar> > > > Utpal> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Hello Utpal> > > > > > > > > > Yes, 8th lordship for sun and moon is exempted by classics. > > > > Parasara > > > > > Rishi says that only Venus is a malefic for Dhanu lagna.> > > > > I have moon in kanya rasi in 10th house. I had four to five > > > > > accidents, and eye problems, and also mother expired during > moon > > > > > dasa. Moon is alone but aspected by saturn. So i wonder > about > > > your > > > > > statement on moon dasa for you friend. Just check his chart, > and > > > > see > > > > > if there are benefics in dual signs. And also note the > aspects if > > > > any.> > > > > best wishes> > > > > partha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th > lordship > > > > > doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or Moon > > > > doesn't > > > > > give Malefic results as 8th lord.> > > > > > > > > > > > you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon > dasha > > > > > even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good > results > > > > of > > > > > Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a > great yog > > > > > capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar case > > > > without > > > > > any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for > whom i > > > > > worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his > Moon is > > > > in > > > > > Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with > Guru. > > > > > still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & > > > > > flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious > > > vehicles, > > > > > great house etc..)> > > > > > > > > > > > best regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > Pathak> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Jyothi,> > > > > > > > > > > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon> > > > > > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed> > > > > > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was> > > > > > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful> > > > > > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I> > > > > > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha> > > > > > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra> > > > > > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata> > > > > > much much later!> > > > > > > > > > > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully> > > > > > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i> > > > > > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this> > > > > > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close> > > > > > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up> > > > > > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > > > > > > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved> > > > > > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are> > > > > > strong in my chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > --------Original Message -------> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many> > > > > > > people including my > > > > > > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But> > > > > > > they dont have the > > > > > > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of> > > > > > > as the effects of > > > > > > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live> > > > > > > who doesnt have > > > > > > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what> > > > > > > combination of > > > > > > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so> > > > > > > much importance is > > > > > > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth> > > > > > > lord. But one of > > > > > > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the> > > > > > > luckiest of all > > > > > > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India> > > > > > > because of his amazing > > > > > > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth> > > > > > > which is considered > > > > > > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra.> > > > > > > In his chart, the > > > > > > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the> > > > > > > usual rules or yogas > > > > > > > > that are said to give great comfort and success.> > > > > > > Besides, I have > > > > > > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great> > > > > > > yogas, but still they > > > > > > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary,> > > > > > > I have also seen > > > > > > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha> > > > > > > yogas leading a normal > > > > > > > > life without much success. > > > > > > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to> > > > > > > think that actually > > > > > > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate> > > > > > > ones success. Am I > > > > > > > > right to think so ? Also I have felt that many> > > > > > > astrlogers who analyse > > > > > > > > celebrity horoscopes in magazines, purposefully> > > > > > > glorify the yogas > > > > > > > > even if they are bad just because the person is> > > > > > > accepted as a > > > > > > > > celebrity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected scholars please enlighten me.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Jyothi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> > > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info:> > > > > > >> > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > > > > vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Namaste Sister, During SUN Mahadasha he did go through very extensive short travellings all over India. he had to put in lot of physical efforts & eat all hotel foods at various parts of India. He remained unhappy because of overdose of travelling. The most importantly, he had many serious mis understandings with Almost all family members i.e. Father, Elder Brother, Mother.. He got involved in lot of Social activities & fame came to him thro' the social activities also. he became Youth president of social organisation of his caste. But Father & he remain attached and in the same house. now his father has developed lot of faith & hopes with him. DETAILS -- Girish Patel 11.02.1970 , 7.12 am 73E0, 23N48 IDAR (GUJARAT) Hope this helps regards, pathak vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Gaurav and Pathak, > > Thank you for replying to my query. For my further understanding, could you please elaborate on : > > a) If sun dasa resulted in physical separation between father & son, either for professional reasons or personal reasons > b) how close is Mercury / Mars to the sun? > c) If the data is not confidential, can the example charts be shared with us for a more informed discussion? > > Thanking you in anticipation. > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > > gbin1979 <gbin1979> wrote: > > Respected members, > i would like to add to what Utpal ji said.. i have > makar lagna with SUN , mercury and mars.my Sun maha dasa started in > 2001.I finished my education in 2003 and after some struggle i got a > nice job in MNC and i think i'm doing ok now.Also my dad expanded his > business by moving to another city.Overall it required a lot of hard > work but nothing bad.I also read Aditya Stotram daily. > > Regards > Gaurav > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > Namaste Parthaji, Laxmiji > > > > Sun & Moon Lordship over 8th house is intresting mystery. > > discussions may continue for ever on the issue. > > > > w.r.t Laxmiji's query about Makara Lagna & Sun's role, I request > you > > to check the following details- > > > > My best friend- My soul mate - has Makara Lagna with Sun & Mercury > > in Lagna aspected by Saturn from 4th house.Saturn conjucts Moon. > > > > Sun Dasha Period proved very beneficial during which he started & > > established his business and made good reputation during those 6 > > years. his father also flourished in his own business field. though > > it was mentally & family relation wise very trying period. he put > in > > tremendous efforts to establish his business in Sun mahadasha. Sun > > is also his Atmakarka. > > > > So practical example really throws more light on the issue. > > > > regards > > > > pathak > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > Thanks for giving this case...I think it sort of proves what i > had > > mentioned in a separate mail to Pathak ji. That sun and moon are > > never be malefic for matters of ayurdaya...but in other matters > they > > can be so. The example you gave is a clincher, because the native > > lost his job / livelihood, but lived on to tell the story. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Partha Sarathy <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > Dear Lakshmi ji > > > > > > Sun and moon could have been exempted from malefic 8th lordship, > as > > > Atma and manah are not the "dhatus" that can be corrupted. > > > > > > Now coming to Makara lagna, i have seen a case where sun was > > conjunct > > > the lagna degree. Sun is vargottama , so is the lagna. I > predicted > > to > > > this person in 98 that he may have trouble in job,. > > > He came to me in 2002 and told me that indeed he did have > trouble. > > But > > > the story goes like this, the person was sitting in his cabin > when > > he > > > felt like going out to feel the warmth of sun and have a cup of > > > coffee. The factory got fire, and many people died. he escaped. > Now > > > tell me is sun malefic or benefic . > > > best wishes > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:28:35 -0800 (PST), lakshmi ramesh > > > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Namaste Partha and Pathak ji, > > > > > > > > My moon is thoroughly afflicted being conjunct Saturn, and > > aspected by Mars > > > > and Rahu. Yet, as Partha pointed out, the strength of Jupiter, > > who is the > > > > dispositor of both moon and saturn seemed to have ensured the > > good results. > > > > > > > > I do agree that for Dhanur lagna people, Moon, despite being > the > > 8th lord, > > > > may not be that dire a malefic because of the friendly > > relationship he > > > > shares with Jupiter, but will it be equally so in the case of > > Makara lagna > > > > and 8th lordship of Sun? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Utpal > > > > > > > > Good point. That is what i wanted to hear. When rishi says that > > 8th > > > > lordship is exempted, we have to bear in mind the afflictions > > also. > > > > Here in your friend's case there are no afflictions, thus he > > escaped. > > > > If with any other afflictions, there would have been the > > problems. > > > > I have a number of Dhanu lagna cases, and i see moon first. One > > such > > > > case has Moon in fourth house in digbala, but with saturn. His > > mother > > > > expired within months. > > > > Another guy has moon in 3rd house aspected by Mangal, Shukra, > > Budha > > > > from Simha rasi. that is the 7th aspect. She is a well known > > lady, > > > > and is in All India Radio. Many practical cases give us more > > > > knowledge than book knowledge. > > > > best wishes > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Parthaji, > > > > > > > > > > Yes sir, you are very right when you ask me to check > > Affliction to > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > I just wanted to propose a point that for Dhanu Lagna, if > Moon > > is > > > > > UNAfflicted, may give very good results even if not involved > > in > > > > > Gajakesari yoga. > > > > > > > > > > with reference to your suggetions, The natives moon is > > UNafflicted > > > > > in lagna with no planetory expects and 11 th from Guru & sun. > > there > > > > > are no benefics in Dual rashi except Moon. > > > > > > > > > > Saturn becomes first rate Marka for Dhanu along with Venus > and > > its > > > > > affliction to moon may have brought the Evil lordship of Moon > > to > > > > > fructification in evil way and hampered the Karktatva. > > > > > correct me if i am wrong > > > > > > > > > > namaskar > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, 8th lordship for sun and moon is exempted by classics. > > > > > Parasara > > > > > > Rishi says that only Venus is a malefic for Dhanu lagna. > > > > > > I have moon in kanya rasi in 10th house. I had four to five > > > > > > accidents, and eye problems, and also mother expired during > > moon > > > > > > dasa. Moon is alone but aspected by saturn. So i wonder > > about > > > > your > > > > > > statement on moon dasa for you friend. Just check his > chart, > > and > > > > > see > > > > > > if there are benefics in dual signs. And also note the > > aspects if > > > > > any. > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. BV Raman was very confidently believed that 8th > > lordship > > > > > > doesn't affect Sun & Moon in a adverse way hence Sun or > Moon > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > give Malefic results as 8th lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you said that you had a very fortunate period during moon > > dasha > > > > > > even though it's a 8th lord in Lagna. you attribute Good > > results > > > > > of > > > > > > Moon for your Lagna to Gajakesari yoga. no dowbt it's a > > great yog > > > > > > capable of giving good results but Here is one simillar > case > > > > > without > > > > > > any yog with guru --> I know a person (My Ex-Employer) for > > whom i > > > > > > worked, he enjoyed tremendous results in Moon dasha & his > > Moon is > > > > > in > > > > > > Dhanu Lagna with no planet & not involved in any yoga with > > Guru. > > > > > > still he enjoyed tremendous fortune (Business stabilised & > > > > > > flourished, good marriage, promising children, luxurious > > > > vehicles, > > > > > > great house etc..) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pathak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Jyothi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have Gaja Kesari yoga in lagna (Dhanus) and my Moon > > > > > > > Vimsottari dasa (dasa of 8th lord & normally supposed > > > > > > > to be bad) was simply tremendous. In academics I was > > > > > > > tops, I got a great job and got married to a wonderful > > > > > > > guy. And the best thing that happened to me was that I > > > > > > > was naturally drawn to chanting of Lalitha > > > > > > > Sahasranaamam, right at the begining of the chandra > > > > > > > dasa, and i found out that moon is my ishta Devata > > > > > > > much much later! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though I had not become world famous or frightfully > > > > > > > rich (that would agin depend on the WHOLE chart), i > > > > > > > did earn a fair amount of fame & money during this > > > > > > > period. But as I said the best thing was to get close > > > > > > > to Divine Mother. Nothing else would ever measure up > > > > > > > to that "nidhi" or treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurudeva Sanjay Rath said that such good results were > > > > > > > obtainable in Moon dasa only because moon was involved > > > > > > > in Gaja kesari yoga. ofcourse, both the luminaries are > > > > > > > strong in my chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > --------Original Message ------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is Gaja kesari yoga so good? I have seen many > > > > > > > > people including my > > > > > > > > > friends and relatives who have this yoga . But > > > > > > > > they dont have the > > > > > > > > > fame, luxury or money which is usually spoken of > > > > > > > > as the effects of > > > > > > > > > this Yoga. They live just as any other people live > > > > > > > > who doesnt have > > > > > > > > > this yoga. Why is it so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another thing I would like to know is that what > > > > > > > > combination of > > > > > > > > > planets makes one successful in life? Usually so > > > > > > > > much importance is > > > > > > > > > given to the strength and better position of ninth > > > > > > > > lord. But one of > > > > > > > > > the superstars of Kerala who is considered as the > > > > > > > > luckiest of all > > > > > > > > > stars not only in Kerala, but also in India > > > > > > > > because of his amazing > > > > > > > > > talent and fan following, has ninth lord in eigth > > > > > > > > which is considered > > > > > > > > > as the most malefic sign. His ascendant is Libra. > > > > > > > > In his chart, the > > > > > > > > > planetary combinations are not conforming to the > > > > > > > > usual rules or yogas > > > > > > > > > that are said to give great comfort and success. > > > > > > > > Besides, I have > > > > > > > > > seen various celebrity horoscopes with no great > > > > > > > > yogas, but still they > > > > > > > > > are highly successful and lucky. On the contrary, > > > > > > > > I have also seen > > > > > > > > > people having two or three Pancha Maha Purusha > > > > > > > > yogas leading a normal > > > > > > > > > life without much success. > > > > > > > > > On seeing such contradictions , I am forced to > > > > > > > > think that actually > > > > > > > > > no criteria, I mean astrologically, can indicate > > > > > > > > ones success. Am I > > > > > > > > > right to think so ? 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