D-charts - Pradeep

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||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

 

Dear Pradeep,

 

Thanks for mentioning Kalachakra. I am infact reading

on Kalachakra at the moment.To be honest,after that, I

feel more worried about Rashi chakra and progression

of time. Also it is not that I am not reading other

books. I am stressing more on Shri Narasimhas point

(regarding amsha definitions), because of kalachakra.

 

[Hari] I should point out that I referred to

kalachakra dasa and not kalachakra, which is a

separate topic by itself. I do not understand how

after reading on kalachakra dasa, you became more

worried about the rasi cakra and the progression of

time.

 

It is not at all a waste of time or getting stuck on a

topic. Without understanding the basics we cannot

build anything. If one is happy with 10 succesul

predictions then one can ignore basics.

 

[Hari] I agree with you here; even I am also stuck in

some of the basics but my experience is to move on and

read other chapters to gain a perspective. Usually the

basics get resolved as I read more and more. I am not

sure about the last line of above para as it is my

contention that to predict correctly & consistently,

one needs to have understood the basics properly.

 

Kalachakra has to be read carefully and it will take

time to understand.It should tell us how or in what

order, with the progression of time, rashis of rashi

chakra will influence us. In another view itcan be a

progression of time along rashi chakra. There are no

different zodiacs or rashi chakras. It is the various

movements of kaala that makes us think of different

zodiacs.

 

[Hari] There are three cakras spoken of; the bha cakra

which is the geo-centric zodiac, the Vishnu cakra or

the tropical (sayana) zodiac and the Narayana cakra

(nirayana or sidereal zodiac). In kalachakra dasa,

there are two cakras spoken of: savya & apasavya

cakras. You are right in the sense that kalachakra

dasa is not an easy topic and requires much time

(maybe years) to make sense of it. But Parasara gave

it a lot of respect. I wont go into the rest of the

details that you raised about kalacakra dasa in the

following paragraphs (deleted here) but hopefully

revisit it at some point of time later.

 

 

Now under all these circumstances, we are finding

divisional lords within a sign. For example Hora -

Though the full sign is lorded by a planet, the horas

within that sign are lorded by sun and moon

respectively. Similarly individual signs are again

divided and allotted to different planets.

 

Your query regarding rashi being the first divisional

: We have to understand it differently. One is the

zodiac with 12 signs. Next is the division of each of

those signs. In the second case you are dividing

individual rashis and in the first case it is an

'imaginary

division' of rashi chakra.

 

After defining the Rashi chakra, Sage clearly says

''now I will explain the various divisions of a

rashi''. Thus please do not misunderstand the natural

sign divisions with divisions of a rashi. Now the

first division is the full 30 degree itself and is

called

Kshethra/Rashi lorded by a planet. Then we again

divide that sign into two to get Hora, ruled by sun

and moon. Again we divide it into 3 for drekkana

lorded by planets falling under 1,5,9 rule. Etc etc.

 

[Hari] Has the sage defined the rasi cakra? I thought

he said ‘after explaining about the rasi (which means

rasisvarupadhayah or the properties of rasi (sign)).

Please point me the shloka where he says this.

 

(1)Right, the first division of the zodiac (can we

call it as cakra?) is the division of 360 deg space

into 12 signs of 30 degs each. But why is this 12

signs only? Why not divide into 8 or 14 signs instead?

 

(2)Then from there, we don’t again divide the zodiac

further (this is the point which you seek to make) but

instead divide the sign further. The question is why?

 

Regarding Guru :I have people in my mind at Gurusthana

while I am learning.Now if it is regarding Mantra - I

am not ready yet.There is a time for everything and it

will come.For example my wife got her

Guru(Aatmeeya) and Mantra(whispered on her ears) very

early.

 

[Hari] I hope you get a Guru worthy of you. It is a

great blessing to have a diksha Guru. I did not mean

for mantra but for learning in general.

 

Regards

Hari