Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 In my previous mail the following sentence > One rule in saptamsa is that venus, mercury and saturn in trines to > navamsa lagna can cause childlessness should be read as trines to saptamsa lagna can cause childlessness best wishes partha On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:01:20 +0530, Partha Sarathy <partvinu wrote: > Dear Sarbani > > Yes, but the point is that can we prove to the non-parampara or > non-traditionals that karaka lagna and karakamsa lagna are two > different things. > > In my case, see I accept new things very easily,. It did not take me > ages to accept 8 charakarkas, arudhas, divisional charts. I accepted > them because i beleived that gurus cannot be wrong. I tested the > principles on charts without any bias, and came to the conclusion that > my faith in gurus was not misplaced. For example using the > arthatrikona principle in dasamsa i could guage the career better than > simply looking at Rasi. > > I could clearly understand the issues of parents from d-12. I clearly > understand why i got astrological knowledge from great grandfather > maternal, rather than from paternal side through the d-40 chart. > > I understand children issues very clearly from saptamsa. > > One rule in saptamsa is that venus, mercury and saturn in trines to > navamsa lagna can cause childlessness. Today i got a typical case, and > the guy is not having kids despite so many remedial measures. He has > pisces saptamsa lagna with mercury+venus+saturn in lagna . What can i > say more. > Siddhamsa has been quite useful, though i have not used it much, for > the simple reason that i dont get cases of students much. > Career, marriage cases are very common ,. thus navamsa and dasamsa > charts have been very useful would be an understatement,. > best wishes > partha > > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:19:23 +0530, Sarbani Sarkar > <sarbani wrote: > >  > > Dear Partha, > > > > All my books written by several well known Bengali astrologers use the term > > Karaka Lagna for the sign in rashi where the AK is placed. And Karakamsha > > for the sign in navamsha where the AK is. Then they read the charts from > > Lagna, Moon and Karaka Lagna. We have also learned the same from Sanjayji. > > So perhaps the tradition is retained in Eastern India. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Sarbani > > > > ________________________________ > > V.Partha sarathy [partvinu] > > Monday, March 21, 2005 4:26 PM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Re: D-Charts > > > > > > > > Dear Viswandam Sir > > > > You cannot prove the point by using Karakamsa to such folks, as they > > say that karakamsa is where AK is sitting in Rasi chart. > > > > You can probably use the quotes on aspects in navamsa chart in > > Jaimini Sutras. > > > > best wishes > > partha > > > > > > vedic astrology, "SuryaViswanadham" > > <vishwanatham@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > > > Dear Sarajit, Namaskar > > > > > > This question about use of 'bhavas' in the vargas (varga chakras - > > > some do not seem to agree with the use of chakra) keeps coming. > > > > > > To be more precise, can we analyse a chart like dasamsa (D-10) in > > the > > > same way we analyse Rasi (D-1) ? Does it have Parasara's sanction? > > > > > > People seriously interested in knowing the truth, raised this issue > > > on this list even before. > > > > > > What i like to know from you is the following: > > > > > > In the chapter on Karakamsha (in BPHS), after defining karakamsha, > > > Parasara gives the effects of planets in the karakamsha, 2nd from > > the > > > karakamsha, 3rd, 4th,5th etc.,from the karakamsha. > > > > > > Can we take this as a conclusive proof that the use of houses in > > the > > > divisionals has the sanction of Parasara (spelled out in so many > > > words)? > > > > > > i ask this because clarification on this can comfort many beginners > > > that they are travelling on the highway. > > > > > > Thanks & regards > > > suryaviswanadham > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" > > > <sarajit@s...> wrote: > > > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > > > Dear Vijayadas, > > > > > > > > If Drekkana has to show more about siblings, how can this be > > shown > > > without referring Drekkana as a chart? As I said before, due to > > > brevity of words, not everything could be explicitly mentioned in > > the > > > classics and more than that it was expected that the it would be > > > taught by a qualified guru, who has been transferred the knowledge > > > through his parampara. > > > > > > > > Now see this statement of BPHS: > > > > One third of a RÄÂÅ›i is called Drekkana. These are totally 36, > > > counted from Mesh, repeating thrice at the rate of 12 per round. > > The > > > 1st, 5th and the 9th RÄÂÅ›is from a RÄÂÅ›i are its three Drekkana > > and > > > are, respectively, lorded by Narada, Agasthya and Durvash. > > > > > > > > Here maharishi says that the 1st, 5th and 9th rasis from a rasi > > are > > > its drekkana. This means that if a planet is there in the 2nd > > > drekkana of Aries, then it would be placed in a sign which is 5th > > > from Aries, i.e., Leo. Similarly you can find that all the planets > > in > > > different drekkana can be similarly mapped to different drekkana > > > signs. What is the trouble if they are shown in the form of a > > chart. > > > Moreover, what can you find about siblings, if not consider > > drekkana > > > as a chart. Take the drekkana of the 3rd lord? Then what? What > > > strength would you find… it is known that the trines from a sign > > > are always friendly, means that the 3rd lord is always well placed > > in > > > the drekkana and everyone’s siblings should be strong and well to > > > do? Please think if this cannot be used as a full chart, how else > > it > > > can be used for finding more details about the siblings! > > > > > > > > However, if you follow my earlier contention, Maharishi wanted > > the > > > divisions to be used as charts, that’s why he has given the rules > > > of bhavas etc after describing the divisions; you can know almost > > > everything about the siblings from the Drekkana. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Sarajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Links > > > > > > vedic astrology/ > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > -- > V.Partha Sarathy, > partvinu.blogspot.com > > All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks > or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or > acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that > never leaves him. > -----Buddha > > Plot.no.71 > Road No.3 > Nagarjuna Hills > Hyderabad > India-500 082 > -- V.Partha Sarathy, partvinu.blogspot.com All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him. -----Buddha Plot.no.71 Road No.3 Nagarjuna Hills Hyderabad India-500 082 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Respected Sir, Immediately on reading your mail,I looked at the chart of a man 58y childless.The chart is attached.Needless to say,what you said is again true!He has Venus and Mercury in trines to D7 Lagna but Saturn neecha in the 6th. His only chance of a child did not materialise as the female baby died during delivery.Can you see that in the chart?Also Saturn is not in a trine but in the 6th.Is it necessary for all the 3 planets to be in trines to D7 Lagna for one to be childless?And does the rule apply equally well for both men and women? Regards Kaimal - "Partha Sarathy" <partvinu <vedic astrology> Tuesday, March 22, 2005 5:03 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: D-Charts-typo In my previous mail the following sentence > One rule in saptamsa is that venus, mercury and saturn in trines to > navamsa lagna can cause childlessness should be read as trines to saptamsa lagna can cause childlessness best wishes partha Attachment: [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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