Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Dear Ms.Sarbani Any piece of information is valuable and a lead towards knowledge.It is our discretion that seperates the required from non required.Let our discussions guide us towards true knowledge. Thanks Pradeep vedic astrology, "Sarbani Sarkar" <sarbani@s...> wrote: > Dear Vijaydas, > > I hope it is not out of place for me to say this. Sanjayji's grandfather, > who was the jyotish ratna of Orissa, wrote a book on the Divisional Charts. > His books are now out of print and difficult to locate. Sanjayji had a copy > till two years back. I am not saying this is the only source, but definitely > A source and added information for this thread. > > Best regards, > > Sarbani > > > _____ > > vijayadas_pradeep [vijayadas_pradeep] > Monday, March 21, 2005 2:01 AM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: D-Charts > > > > Dear Shri Sanjay Rath ji > > Thanks a lot for taking time in explaining. > I have seen Dr.Raman using navamsha as a full chart as i have the > books which you have mentioned.Also i know that shri K.N.Rao ji too > uses Divisionals as charts. > I have also expressed my opinion and Shri Raoji has read them too.I > also have your Crux of Vedic Astrology. > Giving due respect to all learned astrologers i beleive a student can > still express his concerns and doubts on a particular aspect.This does > not mean the student is above them in understanding.It is just a > particular aspect. > For me it is difficult to consider them as charts,unless you are kind > enough to explain how it is possible > when classics refer them as amshas or divisions of houses and not > charts.Also the local texts translated by scholars of yesteryears > never consider them as charts. > They consider them as vargas of Lagna and Planets. > > Could you kindly explain if it was because of Dr.Ramans and Shri > Raojis usage that you decided to consider them as Charts or based on > some classical reference. > > Divisionals are important and hence can differentiate strength,even if > we do not use them as charts. > > Also lagna in navamsha ,drekkana etc - Do they represent self or > spouse,siblings etc.This is another doubt. > > > These are not any attempts to criticize just for the sake of > criticizing.It is a sincere pursuit. > Also i have full respect for your contributions and the knowledge i > have gained through your works. > But that does not prevent me from asking doubts unless i get a > satisfactory answer. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > > vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Jyotisa who criticise the word 'D-Charts' or Divisional charts. > > > > Well I know at least two other astrologers other than myself who use the > > divisional charts in deciding the results for the various people of > a family > > or other events. > > > > 1. Dr B V Raman has used the navämsa extensively as the räsi chart > although > > Sages never seem to have mentioned it as per your understanding of the > > slokas.In 'How to Judge a Horoscope' (a strongly recommended book by > me), he > > has given some really fine examples and has shown how to read the > 'houses > > from the navämsa chart' > > > > 2. K.N.Rao has gone even a step further in showing the use of D > Charts for > > timing the death of family members (excellent example of the Nehru > family) > > and children using the Saptamsa and Dwadasamsa charts. Have you read his > > books? He seems to use D charts all the time. > > > > 3. I have gone a step further in giving all the D Charts and their > usage in > > Crux of Vedic astrology and my other books like Varga Chakra. > > > > In all the cases of the three astrologers (including myself) having > ample > > exposure to the classical Pundits and various sources, we have > learnt to use > > the D Charts as was originally envisaged (and hope that the larning > from our > > elders was not diluted or lost in time) and have shown how to do so > based on > > our interpretation and understanding. > > > > I cannot reproduce the entire COVA here but if you want I can > request that a > > copy be sent to you as there are some very kind hearted people in > this list. > > If after reading all that you still fell that Dr Raman, KNR and I > are wrong > > in using D charts or feel that there is a different way to use them > other > > than the ways shown in the books, please be so kind as to share that > with > > us. > > > > Without the D Charts you have no hope in making even one prediction in > > Jyotish. For your kind benefit, I am giving two charts of two women > born a > > minute apart. Would you like t handle this 'twin chart' and show > which one > > has got married? I have many charts of twin births. Most interesting > cases > > really and very challenging. > > > > Finally, do you Jyotiña draw a navamsa at all or are you trying to > tell the > > list that Navamsa chart should not be drawn!!! > > > > TO ALL LIST MEMBERS > > > > Plese note that the word 'Divisional chart' and D-Chart' were coined by > > K.N.Rao and this has been accepted as standard nomenclature by all > > astrolgoers of SJC. K.N.Rao has done some great service to the world of > > astrology by this standardisation and drawing of Divisional charts. > So if > > anyone tells you that K N Rao does not use D-Charts then it is saying te > > most absurd things about KNR. In case you have any doubts about > this, please > > write to Sri K.N.Rao yourself and get an answer from him.I can say > that we > > may not see eye to eye in the way we use the D-Charts but to say that > > D-Charts should not be drawn at all is blasphemy! > > > > Dr Raman did not use the words D-Charts initially but later he as > the editor > > of the Astrological Magazine has encouraged its use and this was > accepted by > > the entire world of Jyotish.So if a few are now saying that D-Chats > don't > > exist and that Navamsa cannot be drawn, please do not take this as > the last > > word as they are no authority at all. > > > > May I request someone to forward this to K.N.Rao and get his opinion. > > > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > Sanjay Rath > > * * * > > Sri Jagannath Center® > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > New Delhi 110060, India > > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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