Savana year/savana day/day length

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dear friends somewhere i got the slokas under discussion.here i reproduce them

as have been often quoted by many. i dont know sanskrit well . my translation

stands correction.

Source: Narad Samhita Published by Vayanketsh press bombay chapter 3 -6

Seperate use and separate measure of year is described.

 

Grikanam nikhila karya grihayate sourmanatah

nidhervidhana stree garbh savaneneev grihayatII3II

Privarshada medhagarbho naaksha trena praghayate

praghayate yatrodwaha vrita khsor tithi varshadi niryanaII4II

Parva vastu pavsaadi kritastra chandred grihayat

grihayat gurumanen pravhavaadhabdh lakshdnamII5II

Bhachakrama gatirakshara syatsavana trishata dineah

sauram samkramdna prokta chandra pratipadadikamII6II

Short note/ translation approximate:

For calculation of eclipse etc use saurman, calculate pregnancy from Savanmaan

calculate rain and cloud conception from Nakshatraman.

calculate travel, marriage vrit(Fasting) and thithi varsha parva(festivals)

vastukarma niyam etc from lunar year .

defination of year is ovbious.

Treat begining of samvatshara from Chatra shukla.and take duration based on

brihaspatmaan - year( year of brihaspati)Nakshatra month has duration based on

speed of naksatra.thiry days from sunrise to next sunrise is taken in savan

maas.sankranti of sun to next sankranti is saur maas and prtipada to next

pratpda of same paksha is lunar yera.

Above is quoted from one of the magazine in local language.

Hari om tatsat.

RCS.

PS. For better translation in sanskrat slokas can be given

using i translation by me seperately if any one is interested.

to make understanding better.

 

Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:28:34 -0000 "Graham Fox"

<fox.graham (AT) wanadoo (DOT) fr>Re: Savana year/savana day/day lengthDear

Swee,Thank you for the clear quote and translation (very helpful for

non-Sankritists!). I now understand better the quotes given in other messages.

However, I don't see why this quote should necessarily imply that you shouldn't

use 360 day year for dasas: of course, the motion of planets is measured by

solar-measure (degrees). But dasas are not the same as the motion of planets.

Once we've established the position of the Moon at birth, the dasa is triggered

and follows it's own progression, irrespective of motion of planets, no?Best

wishesGrahamvedic astrology, "Swee Chan" <swee@c...>

wrote:> Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Sanjay ji,> > I have been using the same 360

savana year until today when I checked up on the Narada purana w.r.t.

Samvatsara which states the following: > > NP.II.56.111> > grahäëäÃ

nikhilaçcäro gá¹>hyate saura mänataù|> våñöervidhänaà strégarbhaù

sävanenaiva gåhyate||111> > > The motion of planets is reckoned from the

solar measure (saura-mÄna). > The reckoning of the rainy season and pregnancy

of women are reckoned through the civil measure (sÄvana-mÄna).> > If this is

the right reference I have given above, I thank you for that. (Solar longitude

based year; 360 degree year).> > Love, > Swee> > _____ > > Sanjay

Rath [srath@s...] On Behalf Of Sanjay Rath> Monday, March 14, 2005

1:48 PM> vedic astrology> RE: [vedic astrology] Re:

Savana year/savana day/day length> > Jaya Jagannatha> Dear Chandrasekhar ji &

Graham> > Sorry to but in at this stage. The Aitereya Brahmana and others are

very good sources and we wonder what they called the day. Was it the solar

degree that defines the zodiac, then the definition of the year that I use is

the 360 degree sidereal motion of the Sun God...I say Sun God for He defines

the Samvatsara and the rasi by His movement in the Bha chakra. Thats the reason

you will find the option of 360 Degree solar motion year. I think other than

myself Mridula Trivedi and a few astrologers also follow the Sun god in His

definition of the samvatsara.> > Narasimha and Chandrasekhar ji along with

Goel and yourself use the savana year of 360 sunrise's...I think that is the

most perfect definition for the savana year but I thought that this was for a

different purpose. Anyway, to each his own.> > With best wishes and warm

regards,> Sanjay Rath> * * *> Sri Jagannath Center®> 15B Gangaram Hospital

Road > New Delhi 110060, India> http://srath.com <http://srath.com/> ,

+91-11-25717162> * * *> > >

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Dear RC

Thank you for this clarification. If I understand you correctly,

saurman/saurmaas is effectively the same thing as sayana (sankranti

to sankranti), which seems reasonable (for predicting eclipses,as

well as seasons etc). But I don't see how saurman can thus be used

to calculate motion of grahas, as Swee wrote (unless we are using

the tropical zodiac).

Best wishes

Graham

vedic astrology, "R.C.Srivastava"

<swami_rcs> wrote:

> dear friends somewhere i got the slokas under discussion.here i

reproduce them as have been often quoted by many. i dont know

sanskrit well . my translation stands correction.

> Source: Narad Samhita Published by Vayanketsh press bombay

chapter 3 -6

> Seperate use and separate measure of year is described.

>

> Grikanam nikhila karya grihayate sourmanatah

> nidhervidhana stree garbh savaneneev grihayatII3II

> Privarshada medhagarbho naaksha trena praghayate

> praghayate yatrodwaha vrita khsor tithi varshadi niryanaII4II

> Parva vastu pavsaadi kritastra chandred grihayat

> grihayat gurumanen pravhavaadhabdh lakshdnamII5II

> Bhachakrama gatirakshara syatsavana trishata dineah

> sauram samkramdna prokta chandra pratipadadikamII6II

> Short note/ translation approximate:

> For calculation of eclipse etc use saurman, calculate pregnancy

from Savanmaan

> calculate rain and cloud conception from Nakshatraman.

> calculate travel, marriage vrit(Fasting) and thithi varsha parva

(festivals) vastukarma niyam etc from lunar year .

> defination of year is ovbious.

> Treat begining of samvatshara from Chatra shukla.and take duration

based on brihaspatmaan - year( year of brihaspati)Nakshatra month

has duration based on speed of naksatra.thiry days from sunrise to

next sunrise is taken in savan maas.sankranti of sun to next

sankranti is saur maas and prtipada to next pratpda of same paksha

is lunar yera.

> Above is quoted from one of the magazine in local language.

> Hari om tatsat.

> RCS.

> PS. For better translation in sanskrat slokas can be given

> using i translation by me seperately if any one is interested.

> to make understanding better.

>

> Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:28:34 -0000

> "Graham Fox" <fox.graham@w...>

> Re: Savana year/savana day/day length

>

>

> Dear Swee,

> Thank you for the clear quote and translation (very helpful for

non-

> Sankritists!). I now understand better the quotes given in other

> messages. However, I don't see why this quote should necessarily

> imply that you shouldn't use 360 day year for dasas: of course,

the

> motion of planets is measured by solar-measure (degrees). But

dasas

> are not the same as the motion of planets. Once we've established

> the position of the Moon at birth, the dasa is triggered and

follows

> it's own progression, irrespective of motion of planets, no?

> Best wishes

> Graham

>

> vedic astrology, "Swee Chan" <swee@c...>

> wrote:

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> > Dear Sanjay ji,

> >

> > I have been using the same 360 savana year until today when I

> checked up on the Narada purana w.r.t. Samvatsara which states the

> following:

> >

> > NP.II.56.111

> >

> > grahäëäà nikhilaçcäro gá¹>hyate saura mänataù|

> > våñöervidhänaà strégarbhaù sävanenaiva gåhyate||111

> >

> >

> > The motion of planets is reckoned from the solar measure (saura-

> mÄna).

> > The reckoning of the rainy season and pregnancy of women are

> reckoned through the civil measure (sÄvana-mÄna).

> >

> > If this is the right reference I have given above, I thank you

for

> that. (Solar longitude based year; 360 degree year).

> >

> > Love,

> > Swee

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Sanjay Rath [srath@s...] On Behalf Of Sanjay Rath

> > Monday, March 14, 2005 1:48 PM

> > vedic astrology

> > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Savana year/savana day/day

> length

> >

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> > Dear Chandrasekhar ji & Graham

> >

> > Sorry to but in at this stage. The Aitereya Brahmana and others

> are very good sources and we wonder what they called the day. Was

it

> the solar degree that defines the zodiac, then the definition of

the

> year that I use is the 360 degree sidereal motion of the Sun

God...I

> say Sun God for He defines the Samvatsara and the rasi by His

> movement in the Bha chakra. Thats the reason you will find the

> option of 360 Degree solar motion year. I think other than myself

> Mridula Trivedi and a few astrologers also follow the Sun god in

His

> definition of the samvatsara.

> >

> > Narasimha and Chandrasekhar ji along with Goel and yourself use

> the savana year of 360 sunrise's...I think that is the most

perfect

> definition for the savana year but I thought that this was for a

> different purpose. Anyway, to each his own.

> >

> > With best wishes and warm regards,

> > Sanjay Rath

> > * * *

> > Sri Jagannath Center®

> > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road

> > New Delhi 110060, India

> > http://srath.com <http://srath.com/> , +91-11-25717162

> > * * *

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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