Praveenji < Fw: Shodasamsa Narayana dasa(Re:Accident schematic)

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Dear Praveenji,

The period was a very positive one indicating a lot of

fame and respect due to success in a number of things related to

education, career and opportunities. Also praveenji after you have a

chance to analyze this chart I had a question on another chart I was

looking at in which the AK and AmK change was indicated I am not

certain as to how to interpret or time this and I was wondering if

you could give your thoughts on that (I will send you the chart

later if you are ok with that)

Regards,

Kartik

 

vedic astrology, Praveen Kumar

<chunnu2001@v...> wrote:

> Dear Kartik,

> Your input was most useful. But, first let me know about the

phenomenon that took place during 07/30/2001-2003 as asked by you

originally.

>

> Praveen Kumar (Mumbai)

> -

> amoebabhu

> vedic astrology

> 19, 03, 2005 4:00 PM

> [vedic astrology] Praveenji < Fw: Shodasamsa Narayana

dasa(Re:Accident schematic)

>

>

>

> Dear Praveenji,

> I have tried to answer your questions in detail as follows

> (please tell me as to how you come to your conclusions as I am

> strongly interested in understanding predictive astrology) :

> The native is male.

> 1.) TOB : 18:12 (hospital records), DOB : 04/30/1981

> 2.) Margin of error : +/- 6 minutes

> 3.) Nature : Fair minded, balanced, lazy, changing interests

> Physical features : 6ft, athletic build.

> 4.) Education : Engineering (07/1998-05/2002)

> Masters (2002/08- present) with fellowship

(changed

> to science instead of engineering)

> Moved to the US in the 1st week of 08/02.

> 5.) Parents Profession : Father (High position Engineer/Manager

in

> Defense), Mother (Housewife & does social service, highly

respected).

> 6.) Parents Health : Father is diabetic (some health problems

for

> about a year since Jan 2004)

> Please let me know if more details are required.

> Regards,

> Kartik

>

>

> vedic astrology, Praveen Kumar

> <chunnu2001@v...> wrote:

> > Please give following details:

> > 1) Source of TOB, that is recorded meticulously, hospital

record,

> rectified etc.

> > 2) Margin of error possible.

> > 3) Some past trends / facts / events, may be other than you

want

> to ask about. You may write about your nature, education,

> profession, marriage / spouse if married / relationship, good /

bad

> periods of past, parents' profession / status, health etc.

> >

> > I expect at least the sex of the native. However, with given

data,

> 5th house is activated. Hence, it may not be good for children /

> studies etc. Now, the native being just 20 then, we conclude

that

> the period was not good for studies. This is mainly from Rasi

chart.

> If the native is a female, the other possibility is involvement

in a

> typical love affair wherein issues related with pregnancy are

also

> involved. This is my impression, prima-facie.

> >

> > Praveen Kumar (Mumbai)

> >

> > -

> > amoebabhu

> > vedic astrology

> > 19, 03, 2005 8:59 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Fw: Shodasamsa Narayana dasa (Re:

> Accident schematic)

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Panditji,

> > That was a lot of food for thought, I havent

considered

> it

> > that way and does open an interesting line of thinking (in

my

> mind

> > at least). For further clarification Panditji I would like

your

> > opinion on an example in which the divisional charts and the

> natal

> > chart showed conflicting results (in my humble opinion) in

two

> time

> > periods and I wanted to know as to what your opinion would

be

> > (essentially as to how you would interpret this). The

example

> is :

> > DOB : 04/30/1981

> > Time : 18:12 +/- 6 mins (100%) (I have fixed a time of

birth

> but

> > then I am not sure about this, if required I will e-mail you

the

> > details of some incidents to fix the time of birth)

> > Place : Hyderabad, India

> > The times I am talking about are 07/30/2001-2003.

> > and also the native is expecting some results (good/bad) in

the

> next

> > couple of months and according to me the divisional charts

> showed

> > different results from the natal chart ( I might be

completely

> > wrong).

> > Please do not consider this as a test, this purely for my

> > understanding and I would appreciate it if you would show me

as

> to

> > how you would decipher this.

> > Regards,

> > Kartik

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, Panditji

> <navagraha@g...>

> > wrote:

> > > namaste,

> > >

> > > Someone just sent me this. I am posting it here. The

gentleman

> who

> > > posted this is vijaydas_pradeep. I have not asked his

> permission to

> > > post it here but I thought this is in context with various

> > divisional

> > > and other techniques we are debating. My apologies to Mr.

> pradeep

> > if I

> > > am taking too many liberties here.

> > >

> > > ---

> > > This mail only address my concerns regarding technical

points.

> > > I think we are missing the essence. Techniques that ease

our

> > > calculation are a boon. No one disagrees. For that reason

we

> use

> > > software. But Jyotish is not about technical

sophistication.

> > >

> > > When we have a door and steps to enter a house why should

we

> use

> > our

> > > acrobatic skills and climb through the sewage pipe, at the

> building

> > > rear? After knowing the basics (purpose of door and steps)

one

> can

> > > try climbing through sewage for a change.

> > >

> > > But what is happening. One is not aware of the basics and

goes

> > > directly to sewage pipe. Many go directly to dashamsha

> whenever

> > > professional matters are to be ascertained, even without

> knowing

> > how

> > > dashamsha is derived. Many believe dashamsha as a division

of

> the

> > > 10th house & Navamsha as a division of the 9th house. I

got

> > private

> > > mails. This is certainly a bad trend.

> > >

> > > It is true that dash ''amsha'' is for professional

matters,

> but

> > > there is no classical reference sanctioning the usage of

it as

> a

> > > chart. Moreover astronomically it is impossible. As per

Shri

> > > Narasimha sage has not even given the amsha tattwas - just

the

> > lords

> > > alone!!! - How can we find AL, 9TH from it,Artha trikonas

etc

> in

> > > divisionals, when considering it as a chart itself is

against

> > > rules?.

> > >

> > > If we start stretching our legs before we sit, we will

fall.

> > > Unfortunately some techniques are taking one away from

basics.

> If

> > we

> > > have a good foundation, any number of floors can be

erected on

> > top.

> > > If our basement is weak, irrespective of how many

techniques

> we

> > > have, the structures can only collapse. One can keep and

open

> mind

> > > and pick the good from all sources. It is not necessary to

> accept

> > > all from one place and leave the rest. I can learn from

you

> and

> > vice

> > > versa may be one of the best approaches. Please see this

in

> the

> > > right spirit. I respect knowledge from all,but do not

accept

> > > anything blindly.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Pradeep

> > > -----

> > >

> > >

> > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:04:24 -0500, Panditji

<navagraha@g...>

> > wrote:

> > > > Namaste Kartik,

> > > >

> > > > Excellent question. Everything is derived from rashi and

it

> > trumps all

> > > > the charts. I do look at the divisional lagna and

planets in

> it

> > or the

> > > > 1-7 axis of the divisional chart.But I do not go jumping

to

> > divisional

> > > > and use it as a chart with houses. I can not say

parashara

> said

> > to use

> > > > it as a separate chart. ( I do not want to get into

pedantic

> > argument

> > > > about it, I have not seen evidence that parashar said to

use

> > > > divisional as a separate chart) Also the divisional

> influence is

> > a

> > > > Tertiary influence and NOT the primary one. So

divisional 1-

> 7

> > axis is

> > > > to be used to look for tertiary facors. If the primary

> factors

> > are

> > > > adverse, I don't care how strong a divisional chart is

it is

> not

> > going

> > > > to give great results.Yes if a graha is debilited in

rashi

> but

> > exalted

> > > > in navansh then his strength is improved and it is one

of the

> > > > strengths ( not THE strength).

> > > >

> > > > Now about twins, every one talks about it in connection

with

> > > > divisionals. As for me I treat twins as an exception and

do

> not

> > go

> > > > formulating rules for exceptions, thats a dangerous

habit. I

> am

> > happy

> > > > if I can make good predictions in 75 percent of the

cases.

> Also

> > I have

> > > > seen that navansha lagna if it changes can make facial

> features

> > > > different in twins. Anyway people say there are 100s or

> 1000s of

> > > > people born on the same day and time and place. This is

a

> > conjecture,

> > > > go and find hospital records and show me statistical

record

> of

> > how

> > > > many births tooks place at the same place and same time.

> > > >

> > > > Talking about Parashar. He has given avataars ..he says

Moon

> is

> > > > Krishna, Sun is Ram..and Budh is Budhha. So is this the

> parashar

> > who

> > > > was son of vyas ? He did not say future avataar of

budhh, so

> that

> > > > shloka could mean that this was written at a much later

date

> or

> > it was

> > > > added to the original text at a later date.He never

mentions

> > about

> > > > kalaki avataar. There is a classic , I forget the name,(

> Hart

> > Defaw

> > > > mentionsi t).It is written in this classic "When budh is

in

> > quadrant

> > > > from Sun.." Now we know thats anastronomical

immpossibility.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway the point is one has to be careful in deciphering

> what

> > was said

> > > > in ancient texts. There are controversies in many areas

of

> > jyotish and

> > > > in interpretation of classics. My point is to use

methods

> that

> > have

> > > > been tested on many many horoscopes. I will be really

> surprised

> > that

> > > > people have calculated so many divisional charts in the

> past.

> > May be

> > > > for well to do who could pay money to have these

elaborate

> > charts made

> > > > precomputer era. For most the charts were done Lagna

rashi,

> Moon

> > > > rashi, and navansh( Even this was added only if a client

> > insisted). In

> > > > the north or may be south it was customary. it is not so

in

> the

> > > > western part of India.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway

> > > >

> > > > ...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:22:59 -0000, amoebabhu

> <amoebabhu>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Panditji,

> > > > > I have a question (and I do not believe in

> > personalized

> > > > > arguements so nothing in what I will say will have any

> personal

> > > > > connotations). If we were to focus on rashi charts and

not

> > give much

> > > > > of consideration to divisionals, then would it not be

true

> > that a

> > > > > large number of people (a relative terminology) would

end

> up

> > with

> > > > > the same horoscope and one might be a king and the

other a

> > pauper (

> > > > > a theoretical comparison).Also what about twins?

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Kartik

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, Panditji

> > <navagraha@g...>

> > > > >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Namaste Narayan,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Looks like you are taking sides to defend something

that

> has

> > not

> > > > > been

> > > > > > attacked. I know what parashara said in BPHS. He

> mentioned

> > about

> > > > > > divisions and if you say it was in vogue since the

day

> of

> > parashar

> > > > > you

> > > > > > must be really looooong in tooth. You are talking as

if

> you

> > just

> > > > > had a

> > > > > > conversation with him. I stand by my statement that

> > divisional

> > > > > came in

> > > > > > vogue after the advent of computers and now even a

> novice

> > with one

> > > > > day

> > > > > > of training or less can put them up and can write

off

> pages

> > about

> > > > > > which planet is where in which varga and from what

rashi

> > dasha he

> > > > > is

> > > > > > in what house. Whether there are houses in

divisional

> charts

> > is a

> > > > > > debate in itself. I do not know sanjay rath and my

> intention

> > was

> > > > > not

> > > > > > to question his teachings or his grand fathers', as

I do

> not

> > know

> > > > > his

> > > > > > teachings. What I commented is based on what I have

seen

> a

> > few on

> > > > > the

> > > > > > list who say they are beginners just go on and on

about

> > divisionals

> > > > > > and dashas in divisionals as if there was no

tomorrow. I

> put

> > out my

> > > > > > opinion for others to read, they can make their own

> > judgements

> > > > > about

> > > > > > whatever technique they want to use. If you want to

use

> 5

> > kinds of

> > > > > > dashas and 5 kinds of lagnas to arrive at a correct

> > prediction, all

> > > > > > the power to you. I am presenting what I feel is a

> approach

> > that

> > > > > has

> > > > > > worked for me. Let others be judge of those methods.

I

> am not

> > > > > forcing

> > > > > > any technique down anyone's throat. I do have an

opinion

> and

> > an

> > > > > > methodology( Which is not invented by me, but has

been

> > taught by

> > > > > great

> > > > > > astrologers like KN RAo, Nandan Chirmulay, BV

> Raman..etc.),

> > why

> > > > > should

> > > > > > you or anyone feel threatened by it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > People ask questions on this list and if I have time

and

> > > > > inclination I

> > > > > > answer to the best of my ability. While doing so, I

feel

> I

> > have to

> > > > > put

> > > > > > my opinions out there for people on the list to

read. I

> have

> > not

> > > > > > criticized any astrologer on the list, thats not my

> style.

> > But if I

> > > > > > have differences of opinion with a methodology I

voice

> my

> > opinion.

> > > > > Let

> > > > > > the members of the list decide what they want to

use.

> Your

> > methods

> > > > > may

> > > > > > be good for you, why are you threatened if someone

puts

> out

> > there

> > > > > > views on the subject.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:15:35 -0000, naaraayana_iyer

> > > > > > <narayan.iyer@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste Panditji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Panditji <navagraha@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > These principles are a work in progress. It

would

> > surprise me

> > > > > if

> > > > > > > > they have been tested on tons of charts.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As with any field of knowledge, there are always

> > principles,

> > > > > idioms,

> > > > > > > patterns, which will be formed and would be

subjected

> to

> > > > > testing! On

> > > > > > > what basis did you jump to conclusion that these

> > principles have

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > been tested adequately?? It could be entirely

probable

> that

> > > > > these

> > > > > > > principles are a "work in progress", for that

matter no

> > > > > principles

> > > > > > > work 100% and research is required! It could also

be

> > entirely

> > > > > > > probable that the chart could need some

rectification.

> One

> > > > > should

> > > > > > > have an open mind. For that matter, even your

> principles

> > are

> > > > > > > subjected to testing and cannot be relied upon! If

> thats

> > the

> > > > > matter,

> > > > > > > then you would be an "Expert/Rishi"

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > To begin with the divisionals came

> > > > > > > > into vogue after the advent of computer programs

> which

> > made

> > > > > > > > calculation of them fast. In the precomputer

days,by

> the

> > time

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > > calculated all these accurately and verified,

the

> jatak

> > would

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > > been long gone. So this phenomenon is from the

past

> few

> > years

> > > > > and I

> > > > > > > > don't see evidence of its unversal applicability

or

> even

> > > > > > > > applicability

> > > > > > > > in 75 percent of the cases. I am sure there will

be

> one

> > or two

> > > > > > > charts

> > > > > > > > where it will fit perfectly. But as they say

here in

> the

> > great

> > > > > cold

> > > > > > > > north, "One Robin does not make a spring".

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For your esteemed information, Divisionals were in

> vogue

> > since

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > days of Parasara, infact, right at the start, he

> defined

> > and

> > > > > gave

> > > > > > > meaninings to all divisionals upto D-60 or

Shastiamsa!

> Are

> > you

> > > > > > > saying that Maharishis defined it and talked about

it

> so

> > that we

> > > > > can

> > > > > > > pass our idle time or do you think they had

nothing

> better

> > to

> > > > > do???

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Even in the past, AStrologers have gone into the

> depths of

> > > > > > > calculation, for example Pt Jagannath Rath,

> grandfather of

> > Pt

> > > > > Sanjay

> > > > > > > Rath, used to MANUALLY calculate all divisions,

> and ... you

> > > > > would be

> > > > > > > surprised, dasas upto deha level, which is the 6

> levels

> > deep!

> > > > > > > Ofcourse, these calculations consume a lot of

time,

> and

> > hence,

> > > > > they

> > > > > > > would limit themselves to a couple of charts. Most

of

> the

> > times,

> > > > > > > these charts are prepared in advance.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ofcourse, there are Astrologers who would restrict

> > themselves to

> > > > > > > Rasi & Navamsa and make accurate predictions, and

they

> do

> > rely a

> > > > > lot

> > > > > > > on their intuition. If we restrict ourselves to

Rasi &

> > Navamsa,

> > > > > we

> > > > > > > better hope and pray for good solid intuition! Oh

> yes ...

> > by the

> > > > > > > way ... even those who restrict themselves to Rasi

&

> > Navamsa,

> > > > > > > flexibly twist their principles to suit the

results,

> if not

> > > > > lagna,

> > > > > > > then chandra lagna ... so on and so forth!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Point is ... serious minded & honest research is

> required

> > to

> > > > > come up

> > > > > > > with principles and then these should be tested

> > thoroughly. SJC

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > in the process of doing it ... although there is

no

> formal

> > > > > process

> > > > > > > for it. We will be taking this matter seriously in

the

> > coming

> > > > > years!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Another point, Pt Sanjay Rath doesn't like to

spoon

> > feed ... he

> > > > > > > likes/expects his student to think thoroughly, to

whet

> > their

> > > > > > > intelligence! Nothing comes easy ... Adversity

breeds

> > CHARACTER!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > New parameters are introduced to fit the event

which

> is

> > > > > already

> > > > > > > known.

> > > > > > > > On this list some time back one had an example

of

> > father's

> > > > > death.

> > > > > > > For

> > > > > > > > that they used 7th from 9th from sun in

> dwadashansha. Now

> > > > > why ? Why

> > > > > > > > not 7th from 9th from ravi in rashi chart ?Then

why

> not

> > 2nd

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > > from ravi. Then one can use arudh lagna of d-12

if

> one

> > does

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > find

> > > > > > > > it there , then aurdh of 9th in rashi then arudh

of

> 9th

> > in D-

> > > > > 12. It

> > > > > > > > can get confusing very fast.This way one can

cover

> all 12

> > > > > rashis

> > > > > > > and I

> > > > > > > > am sure the graha whose dasha you are running at

the

> > time of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > known

> > > > > > > > event will be there in one of those.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am sure, not even Maharishi Jaimini was

spoonfed!!

> He

> > too must

> > > > > > > have exprimented, just like Pt. Sanjay Rath, KN

Rao

> and

> > come up

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > idioms & principles. And as I said before, I am

not

> sure,

> > if

> > > > > even

> > > > > > > you have a fool-proof methodology of predicting

> events,

> > without

> > > > > > > beating around the bush!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My point is ,test priciples on charts you have

and

> > develop a

> > > > > > > > consistent principle applicable to atleast 75

percent

> > > > > cases.Then

> > > > > > > make

> > > > > > > > it a principle. Do not make rules as you go

based on

> the

> > chart

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > > have in front of you.BTW there are principles

that

> have

> > been

> > > > > > > developed

> > > > > > > > by peope like KN Rao, BV Raman, master those

first.

> > Trust me

> > > > > they

> > > > > > > work

> > > > > > > > in majority of cases

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Principles, should especially be tested on the

basis of

> > > > > probability,

> > > > > > > like Narasimha said, if the likelihood of an event

> > happening is

> > > > > high

> > > > > > > and if you give a numerous paramters explaining

the

> event,

> > these

> > > > > > > principles are not probabalistically valid,

although

> they

> > may be

> > > > > > > statistacally valid!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Like explaining, the chara dasa aspecting chara

> Bhratri

> > Karak

> > > > > caused

> > > > > > > birth of siblings!! I consider that an incomplete

and

> a

> > totally

> > > > > > > inadequate research!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Warm Regards

> > > > > > > Narayan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:02:57 -0000, mikefranc01

> > > > > <mtravass@t...>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi Narasimha,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I applied the same logic in my chart and it

shows

> > something

> > > > > else.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The time when my car was almost totaled (March

> 1993,)

> > I was

> > > > > > > running

> > > > > > > > > Cn-Li Narayana dasa of D16, 4th from A4.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The second time I met with an accident was in

Dec

> 1996

> > and I

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > running Aq-Li Narayana dasa of D16.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Both the accidents took place in zone 4:00:00

> (East of

> > GMT).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I cannot apply any of the principles that you

> stated

> > in your

> > > > > > > email

> > > > > > > > > unless there are others, which can be applied,

and

> you

> > did

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > state.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Could you assist here?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mike

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > November 14, 1963

> > > > > > > > > Time: 14:03:00

> > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > > > > Place: 73 E 55' 00", 15 N 18' 00"

> > > > > > > > > Margao, Goa, India

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic-

astrology, "Narasimha

> > P.V.R.

> > > > > Rao"

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:53 PM

> > > > > > > > > > Shodasamsa Narayana dasa (Re:

Accident

> > schematic)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay Prabhakaran,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > D16 is the chart for all Sukha and Hence

Cars

> come

> > under

> > > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Here is some jist for analysing all yogas

> > > > > (combinations) in

> > > > > > > D16

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 1. A4 is to be considered for Cars. Here

A4

> > should be

> > > > > > > taken in

> > > > > > > > > D16.

> > > > > > > > > > > 2. 6th and 8th house cause worries and

> anxieties

> > > > > > > respectively,

> > > > > > > > > in D16 they

> > > > > > > > > > > will show for matters related to cars

and

> > other

> > > > > sukha.

> > > > > > > > > > > 3. Marakas to sign of A4 will destroy the

car.

> > > > > > > > > > > Marakas primarily being 2nd and 7th.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Now for Dasas which will activate the

Yoga's

> > mentioned

> > > > > above.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Add badhaka sthana in shodasamsa also as a

> potential

> > > > > problem

> > > > > > > sign.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > My birthdata is: 4th April 1970, 5:47:13 pm

> (IST),

> > > > > > > Machilipatnam,

> > > > > > > > > India

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I had a vehicular accident on 5th December

1996

> at

> > 6:30 pm

> > > > > > > (EST),

> > > > > > > > > Wilmington, MA. I was not hurt, but the car

> > was "totalled".

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > As per D-16 Narayana dasa, this happened in

Li-Ta

> > > > > antardasa.

> > > > > > > In my

> > > > > > > > > D-16, Ta is the badhaka sthana and contains

> 3rd/12th

> > lord

> > > > > > > Mercury and

> > > > > > > > > nodes. It is the 12th house from A4, showing

the

> loss

> > of a

> > > > > > > vehicle.

> > > > > > > > > It is also the 8th house from the 4th house,

> showing

> > > > > problems in

> > > > > > > > > sukha.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Those who are into the three parts of rule

of

> > Narayana

> > > > > dasa

> > > > > > > > > interpretation can test that too. Mahadasa

sign Li

> is a

> > > > > > > seershodaya

> > > > > > > > > rasi. So it gives its results in the first one-

> third.

> > Its

> > > > > lord

> > > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > > > is also in a seershodaya rasi (Le). So he

gives

> his

> > results

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > second one-third. The last one-third gives the

> results

> > of

> > > > > > > occupants

> > > > > > > > > and aspectors. There are four candidates and

they

> are

> > Venus,

> > > > > > > Rahu,

> > > > > > > > > Ketu and Mercury in the order of longitudes.

We

> divide

> > the

> > > > > last

> > > > > > > one-

> > > > > > > > > third of the dasa into 4 equal parts and give

them

> to

> > these

> > > > > 4

> > > > > > > planets

> > > > > > > > > in this order. The result of Rahu's aspect on

> mahadasa

> > sign

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > given

> > > > > > > > > in Oct 1996-Aug 1997. Rahu is the 8th lord,

> occupies

> > badhaka

> > > > > > > sthana

> > > > > > > > > and aspects the 4th house of vehicles Libra.

So

> the

> > sub-

> > > > > period

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > question resulted in vehicle problems. Not

only

> did I

> > have

> > > > > an

> > > > > > > > > accident in Dec 1996, but the new car I bought

in

> Jan

> > 1997

> > > > > > > suffered

> > > > > > > > > too. It was hit by people twice when it was

parked

> in a

> > > > > parking

> > > > > > > lot.

> > > > > > > > > I did not see who hit it, but someone hit it

> twice.

> > After

> > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > repeated incidents, I sold that "unlucky" car

and

> > bought

> > > > > another

> > > > > > > new

> > > > > > > > > car in Sept 1997. All these are due to the sub-

> period

> > giving

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > results of Rahu's aspect on Li. It so happened

> that the

> > > > > > > antardasa was

> > > > > > > > > also of Ta, which contains Rahu.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > As per Vimsottari dasa also, it was Mercury-

Ketu

> > antardasa.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In my annual Tithi Pravesha chart of 1996-

97, D-

> 16

> > had Leo

> > > > > > > rising,

> > > > > > > > > lagna lord Sun in 6h (!!) with 6th lord

Saturn,

> Rahu

> > and

> > > > > Ketu.

> > > > > > > Saturn-

> > > > > > > > > Saturn antardasa as per annual Tithi

Ashtottari

> dasa

> > was

> > > > > running

> > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > Dec 3 to Dec 6. Accident was on Dec 5!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The technique of Tithi Pravesha never seizes

to

> > amaze me!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

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