Praveenji < Fw: Shodasamsa Narayana dasa (Accident schematic)

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Dear Praveenji,

I have tried to answer your questions in detail as follows

(please tell me as to how you come to your conclusions as I am

strongly interested in understanding predictive astrology) :

The native is male.

1.) TOB : 18:12 (hospital records), DOB : 04/30/1981

2.) Margin of error : +/- 6 minutes

3.) Nature : Fair minded, balanced, lazy, changing interests

Physical features : 6ft, athletic build.

4.) Education : Engineering (07/1998-05/2002)

Masters (2002/08- present) with fellowship (changed

to science instead of engineering)

Moved to the US in the 1st week of 08/02.

5.) Parents Profession : Father (High position Engineer/Manager in

Defense), Mother (Housewife & does social service, highly respected).

6.) Parents Health : Father is diabetic (some health problems for

about a year since Jan 2004)

Please let me know if more details are required.

Regards,

Kartik

 

 

vedic astrology, Praveen Kumar

<chunnu2001@v...> wrote:

> Please give following details:

> 1) Source of TOB, that is recorded meticulously, hospital record,

rectified etc.

> 2) Margin of error possible.

> 3) Some past trends / facts / events, may be other than you want

to ask about. You may write about your nature, education,

profession, marriage / spouse if married / relationship, good / bad

periods of past, parents' profession / status, health etc.

>

> I expect at least the sex of the native. However, with given data,

5th house is activated. Hence, it may not be good for children /

studies etc. Now, the native being just 20 then, we conclude that

the period was not good for studies. This is mainly from Rasi chart.

If the native is a female, the other possibility is involvement in a

typical love affair wherein issues related with pregnancy are also

involved. This is my impression, prima-facie.

>

> Praveen Kumar (Mumbai)

>

> -

> amoebabhu

> vedic astrology

> 19, 03, 2005 8:59 AM

> [vedic astrology] Fw: Shodasamsa Narayana dasa (Re:

Accident schematic)

>

>

>

> Dear Panditji,

> That was a lot of food for thought, I havent considered

it

> that way and does open an interesting line of thinking (in my

mind

> at least). For further clarification Panditji I would like your

> opinion on an example in which the divisional charts and the

natal

> chart showed conflicting results (in my humble opinion) in two

time

> periods and I wanted to know as to what your opinion would be

> (essentially as to how you would interpret this). The example

is :

> DOB : 04/30/1981

> Time : 18:12 +/- 6 mins (100%) (I have fixed a time of birth

but

> then I am not sure about this, if required I will e-mail you the

> details of some incidents to fix the time of birth)

> Place : Hyderabad, India

> The times I am talking about are 07/30/2001-2003.

> and also the native is expecting some results (good/bad) in the

next

> couple of months and according to me the divisional charts

showed

> different results from the natal chart ( I might be completely

> wrong).

> Please do not consider this as a test, this purely for my

> understanding and I would appreciate it if you would show me as

to

> how you would decipher this.

> Regards,

> Kartik

>

>

> vedic astrology, Panditji

<navagraha@g...>

> wrote:

> > namaste,

> >

> > Someone just sent me this. I am posting it here. The gentleman

who

> > posted this is vijaydas_pradeep. I have not asked his

permission to

> > post it here but I thought this is in context with various

> divisional

> > and other techniques we are debating. My apologies to Mr.

pradeep

> if I

> > am taking too many liberties here.

> >

> > ---

> > This mail only address my concerns regarding technical points.

> > I think we are missing the essence. Techniques that ease our

> > calculation are a boon. No one disagrees. For that reason we

use

> > software. But Jyotish is not about technical sophistication.

> >

> > When we have a door and steps to enter a house why should we

use

> our

> > acrobatic skills and climb through the sewage pipe, at the

building

> > rear? After knowing the basics (purpose of door and steps) one

can

> > try climbing through sewage for a change.

> >

> > But what is happening. One is not aware of the basics and goes

> > directly to sewage pipe. Many go directly to dashamsha

whenever

> > professional matters are to be ascertained, even without

knowing

> how

> > dashamsha is derived. Many believe dashamsha as a division of

the

> > 10th house & Navamsha as a division of the 9th house. I got

> private

> > mails. This is certainly a bad trend.

> >

> > It is true that dash ''amsha'' is for professional matters,

but

> > there is no classical reference sanctioning the usage of it as

a

> > chart. Moreover astronomically it is impossible. As per Shri

> > Narasimha sage has not even given the amsha tattwas - just the

> lords

> > alone!!! - How can we find AL, 9TH from it,Artha trikonas etc

in

> > divisionals, when considering it as a chart itself is against

> > rules?.

> >

> > If we start stretching our legs before we sit, we will fall.

> > Unfortunately some techniques are taking one away from basics.

If

> we

> > have a good foundation, any number of floors can be erected on

> top.

> > If our basement is weak, irrespective of how many techniques

we

> > have, the structures can only collapse. One can keep and open

mind

> > and pick the good from all sources. It is not necessary to

accept

> > all from one place and leave the rest. I can learn from you

and

> vice

> > versa may be one of the best approaches. Please see this in

the

> > right spirit. I respect knowledge from all,but do not accept

> > anything blindly.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Pradeep

> > -----

> >

> >

> > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:04:24 -0500, Panditji <navagraha@g...>

> wrote:

> > > Namaste Kartik,

> > >

> > > Excellent question. Everything is derived from rashi and it

> trumps all

> > > the charts. I do look at the divisional lagna and planets in

it

> or the

> > > 1-7 axis of the divisional chart.But I do not go jumping to

> divisional

> > > and use it as a chart with houses. I can not say parashara

said

> to use

> > > it as a separate chart. ( I do not want to get into pedantic

> argument

> > > about it, I have not seen evidence that parashar said to use

> > > divisional as a separate chart) Also the divisional

influence is

> a

> > > Tertiary influence and NOT the primary one. So divisional 1-

7

> axis is

> > > to be used to look for tertiary facors. If the primary

factors

> are

> > > adverse, I don't care how strong a divisional chart is it is

not

> going

> > > to give great results.Yes if a graha is debilited in rashi

but

> exalted

> > > in navansh then his strength is improved and it is one of the

> > > strengths ( not THE strength).

> > >

> > > Now about twins, every one talks about it in connection with

> > > divisionals. As for me I treat twins as an exception and do

not

> go

> > > formulating rules for exceptions, thats a dangerous habit. I

am

> happy

> > > if I can make good predictions in 75 percent of the cases.

Also

> I have

> > > seen that navansha lagna if it changes can make facial

features

> > > different in twins. Anyway people say there are 100s or

1000s of

> > > people born on the same day and time and place. This is a

> conjecture,

> > > go and find hospital records and show me statistical record

of

> how

> > > many births tooks place at the same place and same time.

> > >

> > > Talking about Parashar. He has given avataars ..he says Moon

is

> > > Krishna, Sun is Ram..and Budh is Budhha. So is this the

parashar

> who

> > > was son of vyas ? He did not say future avataar of budhh, so

that

> > > shloka could mean that this was written at a much later date

or

> it was

> > > added to the original text at a later date.He never mentions

> about

> > > kalaki avataar. There is a classic , I forget the name,(

Hart

> Defaw

> > > mentionsi t).It is written in this classic "When budh is in

> quadrant

> > > from Sun.." Now we know thats anastronomical immpossibility.

> > >

> > > Anyway the point is one has to be careful in deciphering

what

> was said

> > > in ancient texts. There are controversies in many areas of

> jyotish and

> > > in interpretation of classics. My point is to use methods

that

> have

> > > been tested on many many horoscopes. I will be really

surprised

> that

> > > people have calculated so many divisional charts in the

past.

> May be

> > > for well to do who could pay money to have these elaborate

> charts made

> > > precomputer era. For most the charts were done Lagna rashi,

Moon

> > > rashi, and navansh( Even this was added only if a client

> insisted). In

> > > the north or may be south it was customary. it is not so in

the

> > > western part of India.

> > >

> > > Anyway

> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> > >

> > > On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:22:59 -0000, amoebabhu

<amoebabhu>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Panditji,

> > > > I have a question (and I do not believe in

> personalized

> > > > arguements so nothing in what I will say will have any

personal

> > > > connotations). If we were to focus on rashi charts and not

> give much

> > > > of consideration to divisionals, then would it not be true

> that a

> > > > large number of people (a relative terminology) would end

up

> with

> > > > the same horoscope and one might be a king and the other a

> pauper (

> > > > a theoretical comparison).Also what about twins?

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Kartik

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, Panditji

> <navagraha@g...>

> > > >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Namaste Narayan,

> > > > >

> > > > > Looks like you are taking sides to defend something that

has

> not

> > > > been

> > > > > attacked. I know what parashara said in BPHS. He

mentioned

> about

> > > > > divisions and if you say it was in vogue since the day

of

> parashar

> > > > you

> > > > > must be really looooong in tooth. You are talking as if

you

> just

> > > > had a

> > > > > conversation with him. I stand by my statement that

> divisional

> > > > came in

> > > > > vogue after the advent of computers and now even a

novice

> with one

> > > > day

> > > > > of training or less can put them up and can write off

pages

> about

> > > > > which planet is where in which varga and from what rashi

> dasha he

> > > > is

> > > > > in what house. Whether there are houses in divisional

charts

> is a

> > > > > debate in itself. I do not know sanjay rath and my

intention

> was

> > > > not

> > > > > to question his teachings or his grand fathers', as I do

not

> know

> > > > his

> > > > > teachings. What I commented is based on what I have seen

a

> few on

> > > > the

> > > > > list who say they are beginners just go on and on about

> divisionals

> > > > > and dashas in divisionals as if there was no tomorrow. I

put

> out my

> > > > > opinion for others to read, they can make their own

> judgements

> > > > about

> > > > > whatever technique they want to use. If you want to use

5

> kinds of

> > > > > dashas and 5 kinds of lagnas to arrive at a correct

> prediction, all

> > > > > the power to you. I am presenting what I feel is a

approach

> that

> > > > has

> > > > > worked for me. Let others be judge of those methods. I

am not

> > > > forcing

> > > > > any technique down anyone's throat. I do have an opinion

and

> an

> > > > > methodology( Which is not invented by me, but has been

> taught by

> > > > great

> > > > > astrologers like KN RAo, Nandan Chirmulay, BV

Raman..etc.),

> why

> > > > should

> > > > > you or anyone feel threatened by it.

> > > > >

> > > > > People ask questions on this list and if I have time and

> > > > inclination I

> > > > > answer to the best of my ability. While doing so, I feel

I

> have to

> > > > put

> > > > > my opinions out there for people on the list to read. I

have

> not

> > > > > criticized any astrologer on the list, thats not my

style.

> But if I

> > > > > have differences of opinion with a methodology I voice

my

> opinion.

> > > > Let

> > > > > the members of the list decide what they want to use.

Your

> methods

> > > > may

> > > > > be good for you, why are you threatened if someone puts

out

> there

> > > > > views on the subject.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > ...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:15:35 -0000, naaraayana_iyer

> > > > > <narayan.iyer@g...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste Panditji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Panditji <navagraha@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > These principles are a work in progress. It would

> surprise me

> > > > if

> > > > > > > they have been tested on tons of charts.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As with any field of knowledge, there are always

> principles,

> > > > idioms,

> > > > > > patterns, which will be formed and would be subjected

to

> > > > testing! On

> > > > > > what basis did you jump to conclusion that these

> principles have

> > > > not

> > > > > > been tested adequately?? It could be entirely probable

that

> > > > these

> > > > > > principles are a "work in progress", for that matter no

> > > > principles

> > > > > > work 100% and research is required! It could also be

> entirely

> > > > > > probable that the chart could need some rectification.

One

> > > > should

> > > > > > have an open mind. For that matter, even your

principles

> are

> > > > > > subjected to testing and cannot be relied upon! If

thats

> the

> > > > matter,

> > > > > > then you would be an "Expert/Rishi"

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > To begin with the divisionals came

> > > > > > > into vogue after the advent of computer programs

which

> made

> > > > > > > calculation of them fast. In the precomputer days,by

the

> time

> > > > one

> > > > > > > calculated all these accurately and verified, the

jatak

> would

> > > > have

> > > > > > > been long gone. So this phenomenon is from the past

few

> years

> > > > and I

> > > > > > > don't see evidence of its unversal applicability or

even

> > > > > > > applicability

> > > > > > > in 75 percent of the cases. I am sure there will be

one

> or two

> > > > > > charts

> > > > > > > where it will fit perfectly. But as they say here in

the

> great

> > > > cold

> > > > > > > north, "One Robin does not make a spring".

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For your esteemed information, Divisionals were in

vogue

> since

> > > > the

> > > > > > days of Parasara, infact, right at the start, he

defined

> and

> > > > gave

> > > > > > meaninings to all divisionals upto D-60 or Shastiamsa!

Are

> you

> > > > > > saying that Maharishis defined it and talked about it

so

> that we

> > > > can

> > > > > > pass our idle time or do you think they had nothing

better

> to

> > > > do???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Even in the past, AStrologers have gone into the

depths of

> > > > > > calculation, for example Pt Jagannath Rath,

grandfather of

> Pt

> > > > Sanjay

> > > > > > Rath, used to MANUALLY calculate all divisions,

and ... you

> > > > would be

> > > > > > surprised, dasas upto deha level, which is the 6

levels

> deep!

> > > > > > Ofcourse, these calculations consume a lot of time,

and

> hence,

> > > > they

> > > > > > would limit themselves to a couple of charts. Most of

the

> times,

> > > > > > these charts are prepared in advance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ofcourse, there are Astrologers who would restrict

> themselves to

> > > > > > Rasi & Navamsa and make accurate predictions, and they

do

> rely a

> > > > lot

> > > > > > on their intuition. If we restrict ourselves to Rasi &

> Navamsa,

> > > > we

> > > > > > better hope and pray for good solid intuition! Oh

yes ...

> by the

> > > > > > way ... even those who restrict themselves to Rasi &

> Navamsa,

> > > > > > flexibly twist their principles to suit the results,

if not

> > > > lagna,

> > > > > > then chandra lagna ... so on and so forth!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Point is ... serious minded & honest research is

required

> to

> > > > come up

> > > > > > with principles and then these should be tested

> thoroughly. SJC

> > > > is

> > > > > > in the process of doing it ... although there is no

formal

> > > > process

> > > > > > for it. We will be taking this matter seriously in the

> coming

> > > > years!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Another point, Pt Sanjay Rath doesn't like to spoon

> feed ... he

> > > > > > likes/expects his student to think thoroughly, to whet

> their

> > > > > > intelligence! Nothing comes easy ... Adversity breeds

> CHARACTER!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > New parameters are introduced to fit the event which

is

> > > > already

> > > > > > known.

> > > > > > > On this list some time back one had an example of

> father's

> > > > death.

> > > > > > For

> > > > > > > that they used 7th from 9th from sun in

dwadashansha. Now

> > > > why ? Why

> > > > > > > not 7th from 9th from ravi in rashi chart ?Then why

not

> 2nd

> > > > from

> > > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > from ravi. Then one can use arudh lagna of d-12 if

one

> does

> > > > not

> > > > > > find

> > > > > > > it there , then aurdh of 9th in rashi then arudh of

9th

> in D-

> > > > 12. It

> > > > > > > can get confusing very fast.This way one can cover

all 12

> > > > rashis

> > > > > > and I

> > > > > > > am sure the graha whose dasha you are running at the

> time of

> > > > the

> > > > > > known

> > > > > > > event will be there in one of those.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am sure, not even Maharishi Jaimini was spoonfed!!

He

> too must

> > > > > > have exprimented, just like Pt. Sanjay Rath, KN Rao

and

> come up

> > > > with

> > > > > > idioms & principles. And as I said before, I am not

sure,

> if

> > > > even

> > > > > > you have a fool-proof methodology of predicting

events,

> without

> > > > > > beating around the bush!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My point is ,test priciples on charts you have and

> develop a

> > > > > > > consistent principle applicable to atleast 75 percent

> > > > cases.Then

> > > > > > make

> > > > > > > it a principle. Do not make rules as you go based on

the

> chart

> > > > you

> > > > > > > have in front of you.BTW there are principles that

have

> been

> > > > > > developed

> > > > > > > by peope like KN Rao, BV Raman, master those first.

> Trust me

> > > > they

> > > > > > work

> > > > > > > in majority of cases

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Principles, should especially be tested on the basis of

> > > > probability,

> > > > > > like Narasimha said, if the likelihood of an event

> happening is

> > > > high

> > > > > > and if you give a numerous paramters explaining the

event,

> these

> > > > > > principles are not probabalistically valid, although

they

> may be

> > > > > > statistacally valid!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Like explaining, the chara dasa aspecting chara

Bhratri

> Karak

> > > > caused

> > > > > > birth of siblings!! I consider that an incomplete and

a

> totally

> > > > > > inadequate research!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Warm Regards

> > > > > > Narayan

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:02:57 -0000, mikefranc01

> > > > <mtravass@t...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi Narasimha,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I applied the same logic in my chart and it shows

> something

> > > > else.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The time when my car was almost totaled (March

1993,)

> I was

> > > > > > running

> > > > > > > > Cn-Li Narayana dasa of D16, 4th from A4.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The second time I met with an accident was in Dec

1996

> and I

> > > > was

> > > > > > > > running Aq-Li Narayana dasa of D16.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Both the accidents took place in zone 4:00:00

(East of

> GMT).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I cannot apply any of the principles that you

stated

> in your

> > > > > > email

> > > > > > > > unless there are others, which can be applied, and

you

> did

> > > > not

> > > > > > state.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Could you assist here?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mike

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > November 14, 1963

> > > > > > > > Time: 14:03:00

> > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > > > Place: 73 E 55' 00", 15 N 18' 00"

> > > > > > > > Margao, Goa, India

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Narasimha

> P.V.R.

> > > > Rao"

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:53 PM

> > > > > > > > > Shodasamsa Narayana dasa (Re: Accident

> schematic)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay Prabhakaran,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > D16 is the chart for all Sukha and Hence Cars

come

> under

> > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Here is some jist for analysing all yogas

> > > > (combinations) in

> > > > > > D16

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1. A4 is to be considered for Cars. Here A4

> should be

> > > > > > taken in

> > > > > > > > D16.

> > > > > > > > > > 2. 6th and 8th house cause worries and

anxieties

> > > > > > respectively,

> > > > > > > > in D16 they

> > > > > > > > > > will show for matters related to cars and

> other

> > > > sukha.

> > > > > > > > > > 3. Marakas to sign of A4 will destroy the car.

> > > > > > > > > > Marakas primarily being 2nd and 7th.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Now for Dasas which will activate the Yoga's

> mentioned

> > > > above.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Add badhaka sthana in shodasamsa also as a

potential

> > > > problem

> > > > > > sign.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My birthdata is: 4th April 1970, 5:47:13 pm

(IST),

> > > > > > Machilipatnam,

> > > > > > > > India

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I had a vehicular accident on 5th December 1996

at

> 6:30 pm

> > > > > > (EST),

> > > > > > > > Wilmington, MA. I was not hurt, but the car

> was "totalled".

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > As per D-16 Narayana dasa, this happened in Li-Ta

> > > > antardasa.

> > > > > > In my

> > > > > > > > D-16, Ta is the badhaka sthana and contains

3rd/12th

> lord

> > > > > > Mercury and

> > > > > > > > nodes. It is the 12th house from A4, showing the

loss

> of a

> > > > > > vehicle.

> > > > > > > > It is also the 8th house from the 4th house,

showing

> > > > problems in

> > > > > > > > sukha.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Those who are into the three parts of rule of

> Narayana

> > > > dasa

> > > > > > > > interpretation can test that too. Mahadasa sign Li

is a

> > > > > > seershodaya

> > > > > > > > rasi. So it gives its results in the first one-

third.

> Its

> > > > lord

> > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > > is also in a seershodaya rasi (Le). So he gives

his

> results

> > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > second one-third. The last one-third gives the

results

> of

> > > > > > occupants

> > > > > > > > and aspectors. There are four candidates and they

are

> Venus,

> > > > > > Rahu,

> > > > > > > > Ketu and Mercury in the order of longitudes. We

divide

> the

> > > > last

> > > > > > one-

> > > > > > > > third of the dasa into 4 equal parts and give them

to

> these

> > > > 4

> > > > > > planets

> > > > > > > > in this order. The result of Rahu's aspect on

mahadasa

> sign

> > > > is

> > > > > > given

> > > > > > > > in Oct 1996-Aug 1997. Rahu is the 8th lord,

occupies

> badhaka

> > > > > > sthana

> > > > > > > > and aspects the 4th house of vehicles Libra. So

the

> sub-

> > > > period

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > question resulted in vehicle problems. Not only

did I

> have

> > > > an

> > > > > > > > accident in Dec 1996, but the new car I bought in

Jan

> 1997

> > > > > > suffered

> > > > > > > > too. It was hit by people twice when it was parked

in a

> > > > parking

> > > > > > lot.

> > > > > > > > I did not see who hit it, but someone hit it

twice.

> After

> > > > these

> > > > > > > > repeated incidents, I sold that "unlucky" car and

> bought

> > > > another

> > > > > > new

> > > > > > > > car in Sept 1997. All these are due to the sub-

period

> giving

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > results of Rahu's aspect on Li. It so happened

that the

> > > > > > antardasa was

> > > > > > > > also of Ta, which contains Rahu.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > As per Vimsottari dasa also, it was Mercury-Ketu

> antardasa.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In my annual Tithi Pravesha chart of 1996-97, D-

16

> had Leo

> > > > > > rising,

> > > > > > > > lagna lord Sun in 6h (!!) with 6th lord Saturn,

Rahu

> and

> > > > Ketu.

> > > > > > Saturn-

> > > > > > > > Saturn antardasa as per annual Tithi Ashtottari

dasa

> was

> > > > running

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > Dec 3 to Dec 6. Accident was on Dec 5!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The technique of Tithi Pravesha never seizes to

> amaze me!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

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