2-Ram, re....To mark kincaid: On fate & predetrminism, > M. Kincaid

[Guest guest]

Dear Ram....

Ahhh, what a great name...

One day, I was reflecting on the Jyotish, and I thought, ... I wonder if I can

figure out what the perfect chart is. In other words, if Jyotish says this

planet is exalted, and this one not, then, maybe a most ideal chart can be

found.

To that end, I created a chart with exalted Sun, Exalted Moon, Guru, Sani, Mars, etc...

The only one I couldn't exalt was the placement of Mercury, because Mercury

always needs to be close, within 2 signs, generally to the Sun... but...

after I had created this chart...

a year or two later, I got this email, about what the supposed chart of ancient 'Ram' had been.

And yes, it was almost exactly what I had imagined....

ehhehe

Jai Guru

Mark Kincaid

ps.... the essence of my Jyotish is this,....I've taken the best of everything

I've learned from My Maharishi, and appying that to the field of Jyotish, have

discovered,... a truely new and exciting, consciousness of Jyotish which is

evolutionary, progressive, and with the power to help us grow through

transformation and growth...

take care

Rampaul Verma <rampaulman >

vedic astrology

Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:58:35 -0800 (PST)

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Re: [vedic astrology] 2-Pradeep, re....To mark kincaid: On fate &

predetrminism, > M. Kincaid

hi mark i did not knew you are diciple of mahes yougi

well problem is p bigger power always dictate the way

to smaller nation

and india nedd to get that rank as china .

we are still nation where vedic life is more conducive

and easy to live

i will have my retirement there in himalayas

ram

--- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid (AT) mchsi (DOT) com> wrote:

> Dear Pradeep:

>

> No Problem. And, you're right to the entent that

> all the details of our

> conversations, can't be flushed out in a couple

> emails.

>

> I've just been trying to bring out the points, that

> my Guru, the great

> Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, of transcendental meditation,

> fame, expresses

> regarding why India, being the home of the Ved,

> as ever suffered, or fallen under hard times.

>

> One of 'his' greatest insights, is that the ability

> to meditate, to

> transcend, to especially transform oneself, in a

> natural, and effortless

> way,.... once being lost,.... is the real reason,

> why problems in life,

> persist.

>

> He says the greatest problem of present day India,

> is that Indians have

> gotten so entrenched in their present mind-set, or

> view, that it's either

> difficult to grow, or become enlightened, ...

> that they therefore rationalize the point of view,

> therefore, that 'fate'

> alone, is.

>

> This is a great mistake or tradegy from the

> Maharishi's point of view, and

> his main effort all these 50 years now, teaching all

> over the World, is to

> revitalize Vedic culture, and Vedic Knoweledge...

>

> For me,....

>

> This was my main point and intention, to give a

> reflection on how, now, we

> can begin to see, that the malefics, in our charts,

> as Jyotish, explains

> very beautifully, can themselves, be changed,

> improved or transformed.

>

> My experience and fortunate insight into this aspect

> of Vedic Astrology, has

> allowed me to understand some of the most precicous

> aspects of life &

> Astrology.

>

> I agree with you, however, that the issue is very

> complicted, but the key,

> for each one of us, is learning how to evolve, to

> grow, and turn our malefic

> challenges, into our growth opportunities!

>

> Jai Guru

>

>

> Mark Kincaid

>

>

>

>

> "pp_gurav" <pp_gurav >

> vedic astrology

> Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:19:49 -0000

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] To mark kincaid: On fate

> & predetrminism

>

>

>

> Mark said>>

> >>On the other hand, in India, for ex. where fate

> and pre-

> >>determinism, has been entrenched there

> >>for sooo long,... people have lost the ability to

> change and

> >>improve themselves....

>

> Dear Mark,

>

> Your above conclusion/remark/opinion is too

> simplistic,

> astrologically as well as logically.

>

> There could be many factors influencing the fate of

> indians (or of

> anybody else), may be we are not aware of. If you

> read history, there

> are certain questions why europeans became powerful

> & successful

> since last 1000 years or more since last 500 years?

> Why indians lost

> their glory in the same period?

> There could be astrological reasons. One could

> approach the same

> question with the help of any other science such as

> history,

> socilogy, pscychology, astrology etc.

>

> Who knows what is fate of people on earth in coming

> 500 years?

>

> I hope you take my comments in a positive sense.

>

> Regards,

> Pradeep

>

>

>

>

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