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Hi,

 

I have got one doubt about the retrograde status of the planet

(Jupiter) in my horoscope.

 

Rasi

*****

lagna is Tula

 

Jupiter is in retrograde status and it is in sixth house.

 

navamsa

*******

 

lagna is tula

 

Jupiter is in 4th house that i.e in neecha status

 

 

 

Jupiter is good or bad for me.Any one let me know about this.

 

 

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Om Dakshinamurtaya NamahDear Srini,

For Libra rising Jupiter is 3rd and 6th lord.Its placed in the 6th

house in its own sign.A benefic in the 6th looses some of the effect and more so

Jupiter.6th lord being strong in the 6th house can again cause some problems.Its

debility in Navamsha only ensures that some struggles will come your

way.Retrogression gives the planet immense strength also termed as 'Cheshta

bal'.Since this is also the 3rd lord it can give you immense energy and make

you goal oriented and there will be delays in attaining results of the same.You

also need to look at the chart to see the Chara karaka status of Jupiter.As such

this placement indicates that you will face some struggles in your 6th house

matters.You must look at the whole chart to reach any conclusion.

Best Wishes,

Kanupriya.

>"srini007_24" <srini007_24 >

>vedic astrology

>vedic astrology

>[vedic astrology] Regd:Retrograde status of a planet

>Tue, 08 Mar 2005 10:11:44 -0000

>

>

>Hi,

>

>I have got one doubt about the retrograde status of the planet

>(Jupiter) in my horoscope.

>

>Rasi

>*****

>lagna is Tula

>

>Jupiter is in retrograde status and it is in sixth house.

>

>navamsa

>*******

>

>lagna is tula

>

>Jupiter is in 4th house that i.e in neecha status

>

>

>

>Jupiter is good or bad for me.Any one let me know about this.

>

>

>Srini

>

>

>

>

>

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vedic astrology, "Kanu Priya" <barish44@h...>

wrote:

> Dear Kanu priyaji,

On the lines mentioned above, I have a small doubt about

retrograde planet. If a retrograde planet is in own sign in rashi

chart and debilated in navamsa, do we consider that the planet is

exalted in navamsa.

 

Thanking you

Aruna Srimantula

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vedic astrology, "Kanu Priya" <barish44@h...>

wrote:

> Dear kanu priyaji,

I have a doubt.If a vakra planet occupies own sign in rasi chart

and is debilated in navamsa,when we analyse navamsa chart, do we

consider that planets debility is cancelled, because somewhere I

remember I read that, an exalted retrograde planet is equalent to

debilated one and viceversa.

 

looking forward to hear from you,

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I think effect of exalted/debilitated retrograde planet is discussed in chap 5

saravali, just in passing manner.--

quoted

"14. Retrogression in Exaltation. If a planet is retrograde, while in

exaltation, it produces no effect (nothing good will happen). This is the view

held by some. Even, if it is in exaltation by its entry in retrograde motion

from the next Sign (for example Jupiter entering Cancer from Leo), the effect

is same, for it takes unduly long time in such traversion."

However it is also mentioned that benefic when retrograde become more auspicious

whereas retrograde malefic are not desirable...

So what should we infer in a special case.. say exalted Jupiter( most benefic)

but retrograde .... does it become more powerful in a benefic sense or being

retrograde cannot give good results. would being retrograde diminish the

expansive qualities of Jupiter.

 

Also would a retrograde planet delay in giving its results.

 

I hope that learned Gurus can shed some light on this topic and make it more clear.

 

Regards

Hari

 

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Dear kanu priyaji, I have a doubt.If a vakra planet occupies own sign in rasi

chart and is debilated in navamsa,when we analyse navamsa chart, do we

consider that planets debility is cancelled, because somewhere I remember I

read that, an exalted retrograde planet is equalent to debilated one and

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Om Dakshinamurtaya Namah

Dear Aruna ,

You have mentioned two different points. My comments

below:> > Dear kanu priyaji,

> I have a doubt.If a vakra planet occupies own sign in rasi chart

> and is debilated in navamsa,when we analyse navamsa chart, do we consider

that planets debility is cancelled....

** The planet does not break the debility as the suffering will still come but

once this is over the results of the rashi will dominate.This can be understood

better if you understand the diference between the Rashi and the Navamsha

charts.When a planet is strong but in retrogression in rashi it indicates that

the planet has a strong desire from a past birth.It will have intense evergy to

fullfill this desire.The planet in its periods will change the circumstances to

its own desire.When this planet is debilitated in navamsha this indicates that

this will happen with alot of struggle.The cancellation of the debility will

indicate what? Debility as such can be understood with a slight difference in

the navamsha chart than the rashi chart.The rashi can indicate the various

circumstances where as the navamsha will show the deeper struggles in attaining

better bhagya and also issues connected to marriage.

because somewhere I

>remember I read that, an exalted retrograde planet is equalent to

>debilated one and viceversa.

** A planet in retrogression is supposed to act like Rahu.This means it has a

certain desire which it must fulfill.Exaltation is the higher form of anything

and is like Vishnu himself giving the better qualities of the planet.Exalted

Jupiter -immense knowledge, good judgement etc.Exalted Mars- Intense amount of

strength the person may be a good fighter or may lead or discpline people.

When in Retrogression this force becomes dierected to a single goal. An exalted

planet gives good results but when in retrogression there are delays and some

issues connected to the natural karkattwa of this planet will suffer.Jupiter in

retrogression- some problems or delays with children of money [Natural

karakttwa].The planet is very strong and the blessings as well as the negative

results come on very strongly on the native's life.

Debilitated planets can give more bhoga, Jupiter in debility -wealth but it may

have nothing to do with morals.Mars- alot of fights with family, spouse

etc.Again when in retrogression the planet will have intense amount of strength

and can give alot of wealth, material gains etc.

Best Wishes,

Kanupriya.

>looking forward to hear from you,

>Aruna Srimantula

>

>

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Hi,

 

navamasa

*********

 

i would like to add one more point

This planet(Jupiter) is in retrigrade status in

navamsa also.

 

I have studied in some books that if the planet is in

neecha status it should have neecha bangha...and it is

also in kendra so it should have necha banga raja

yoga?

 

whether this yoga will be there?

 

 

one more question....

 

We have to take the planet effect in rashi or planet

effect in navamsa?

 

let me know your comments......

 

Srini

 

 

 

 

 

--- Kanu Priya <barish44 wrote:

 

 

 

Om

Dakshinamurtaya Namah

Dear Srini,

 

For Libra rising Jupiter is 3rd and 6th

lord.Its placed in the 6th house in its own sign.A

benefic in the 6th looses some of the effect and more

so Jupiter.6th lord being strong in the 6th house can

again cause some problems.Its debility in Navamsha

only ensures that some struggles will come your

way.Retrogression gives the planet immense strength

also termed as 'Cheshta bal'.Since this is also the

3rd lord it can give you immense energy and make you

goal oriented and there will be delays in attaining

results of the same.You also need to look at the chart

to see the Chara karaka status of Jupiter.As such this

placement indicates that you will face some struggles

in your 6th house matters.You must look at the whole

chart to reach any conclusion.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Kanupriya.

 

>"srini007_24" <srini007_24

 

 

>vedic astrology

>vedic astrology

>[vedic astrology] Regd:Retrograde status of

a planet

>Tue, 08 Mar 2005 10:11:44 -0000

>

>

>Hi,

>

>I have got one doubt about the retrograde status of

the planet

>(Jupiter) in my horoscope.

>

>Rasi

>*****

>lagna is Tula

>

>Jupiter is in retrograde status and it is in sixth

house.

>

>navamsa

>*******

>

>lagna is tula

>

>Jupiter is in 4th house that i.e in neecha status

>

>

>

>Jupiter is good or bad for me.Any one let me know

about this.

>

>

>Srini

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Srini,

When a planet is in retrogression it is so in all the

divisionals as well.There are specefic rules for a planet to attain Neecha

bhanga.This is what I have understood:

The following can cause neecha banga:

1. Planet is in Kendra to Lagna or Moon.

2. Planet is exalted in Navamsa.

3. Planet is joined an exalted planet.

4. Lord of Exaltation or lord of debilitation sign is in Kendra to Moon or Lagna

5.The following can cause this by their placement in kendras to either Moon or

Lagna.

1. Lord of exaltation sign.

2. Lord of debilitation sign.

3. Planet which gets exalted in the debilitation sign.Or

4. Planet itself being exalted in navamsa

So this means there is always a clear set of planets which cause neecha

bhanga.Jupiter gets debilitated in Capricorn.Its neecha bhanga can be looked

into as:

1. Moon as lord of exaltation sign.

2. Saturn as lord of debilitation sign.

3. Mars as it gets exalted in Capricorn.

4. Jupiter placed in exalted navamsa.

Neecha bhanga means the planet will be able to come out of its troubled

circumstances and give better results.To see if it will lead to a Raaj Yoga

there must be Yogas for a raaj Yoga.Look for Yogadas for this.Planets have to

be studied both in the Rashi as well as the Navamsha.The Navamsha is what is in

our bhagya and the rashi indicates the circumstances this manifests into.If a

planet is strong in the D-9 and weak in D-1 then the native may not be feeling

unhappy as such during its periods and yet the circumstances around the naitve

may not be very good.There may not be huge negative incidents during this time

and neither huge gains.Since the D-9 also connects to marriage this can give

happiness in personal life.Both the charts are connected and should be studied

for results which are long lasting and influence the native's whole life.

Best Wishes,

Kanupriya.

 

>srinivasan --

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>vedic astrology

>RE: [vedic astrology] Regd:Retrograde status of a planet

>Tue, 8 Mar 2005 22:44:43 -0800 (PST)

>

>

>Hi,

>

>navamasa

>*********

>

>i would like to add one more point

>This planet(Jupiter) is in retrigrade status in

>navamsa also.

>

>I have studied in some books that if the planet is in

>neecha status it should have neecha bangha...and it is

>also in kendra so it should have necha banga raja

>yoga?

>

>whether this yoga will be there?

>

>

>one more question....

>

>We have to take the planet effect in rashi or planet

>effect in navamsa?

>

>let me know your comments......

>

>Srini

>

>

>

>

>

>--- Kanu Priya wrote:

>

>

>

> Om

>Dakshinamurtaya Namah

>Dear Srini,

>

> For Libra rising Jupiter is 3rd and 6th

>lord.Its placed in the 6th house in its own sign.A

>benefic in the 6th looses some of the effect and more

>so Jupiter.6th lord being strong in the 6th house can

>again cause some problems.Its debility in Navamsha

>only ensures that some struggles will come your

>way.Retrogression gives the planet immense strength

>also termed as 'Cheshta bal'.Since this is also the

>3rd lord it can give you immense energy and make you

>goal oriented and there will be delays in attaining

>results of the same.You also need to look at the chart

>to see the Chara karaka status of Jupiter.As such this

>placement indicates that you will face some struggles

>in your 6th house matters.You must look at the whole

>chart to reach any conclusion.

>

>Best Wishes,

>

>Kanupriya.

>

> >"srini007_24"

>

>

> >vedic astrology

> >vedic astrology

> >[vedic astrology] Regd:Retrograde status of

> a planet

> >Tue, 08 Mar 2005 10:11:44 -0000

> >

> >

> >Hi,

> >

> >I have got one doubt about the retrograde status of

>the planet

> >(Jupiter) in my horoscope.

> >

> >Rasi

> >*****

> >lagna is Tula

> >

> >Jupiter is in retrograde status and it is in sixth

>house.

> >

> >navamsa

> >*******

> >

> >lagna is tula

> >

> >Jupiter is in 4th house that i.e in neecha status

> >

> >

> >

> >Jupiter is good or bad for me.Any one let me know

>about this.

> >

> >

> >Srini

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Hi,

 

when i compare your statement with the Jupiter

position in rashi and navamsa,then the jupiter has got

neecha bangha..because it is in kendra from lagna.

 

Is it Correct?

 

Srini

--- Kanu Priya <barish44 wrote:

 

 

 

Om

Dakshinamurtaya Namah

 

Dear Srini,

 

When a planet is in retrogression

it is so in all the divisionals as well.There are

specefic rules for a planet to attain Neecha

bhanga.This is what I have understood:

 

The following can cause neecha banga:

 

 

1. Planet is in Kendra to Lagna or Moon.

 

2. Planet is exalted in Navamsa.

 

 

3. Planet is joined an exalted planet.

 

4. Lord of Exaltation or lord of debilitation sign is

in Kendra to Moon or Lagna

 

5.The following can cause this by their placement in

kendras to either Moon or Lagna.

 

1. Lord of exaltation sign.

 

2. Lord of debilitation sign.

 

3. Planet which gets exalted in the debilitation

sign.Or

 

4. Planet itself being exalted in navamsa

 

 

So this means there is always a clear set of planets

which cause neecha bhanga.Jupiter gets debilitated in

Capricorn.Its neecha bhanga can be looked into as:

 

1. Moon as lord of exaltation sign.

 

2. Saturn as lord of debilitation sign.

 

3. Mars as it gets exalted in Capricorn.

 

 

4. Jupiter placed in exalted navamsa.

 

Neecha bhanga means the planet will be able to come

out of its troubled circumstances and give better

results.To see if it will lead to a Raaj Yoga there

must be Yogas for a raaj Yoga.Look for Yogadas for

this.Planets have to be studied both in the Rashi as

well as the Navamsha.The Navamsha is what is in our

bhagya and the rashi indicates the circumstances this

manifests into.If a planet is strong in the D-9 and

weak in D-1 then the native may not be feeling unhappy

as such during its periods and yet the circumstances

around the naitve may not be very good.There may not

be huge negative incidents during this time and

neither huge gains.Since the D-9 also connects to

marriage this can give happiness in personal life.Both

the charts are connected and should be studied for

results which are long lasting and influence the

native's whole life.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Kanupriya.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>srinivasan --

 

>vedic astrology

>vedic astrology

>RE: [vedic astrology] Regd:Retrograde status

of a planet

>Tue, 8 Mar 2005 22:44:43 -0800 (PST)

>

>

>Hi,

>

>navamasa

>*********

>

>i would like to add one more point

>This planet(Jupiter) is in retrigrade status in

>navamsa also.

>

>I have studied in some books that if the planet is in

>neecha status it should have neecha bangha...and it

is

>also in kendra so it should have necha banga raja

>yoga?

>

>whether this yoga will be there?

>

>

>one more question....

>

>We have to take the planet effect in rashi or planet

>effect in navamsa?

>

>let me know your comments......

>

>Srini

>

>

>

>

>

>--- Kanu Priya wrote:

>

>

>

> Om

>Dakshinamurtaya Namah

>Dear Srini,

>

> For Libra rising Jupiter is 3rd and

6th

>lord.Its placed in the 6th house in its own sign.A

>benefic in the 6th looses some of the effect and more

>so Jupiter.6th lord being strong in the 6th house can

>again cause some problems.Its debility in Navamsha

>only ensures that some struggles will come your

>way.Retrogression gives the planet immense strength

>also termed as 'Cheshta bal'.Since this is also the

>3rd lord it can give you immense energy and make you

>goal oriented and there will be delays in attaining

>results of the same.You also need to look at the

chart

>to see the Chara karaka status of Jupiter.As such

this

>placement indicates that you will face some struggles

>in your 6th house matters.You must look at the whole

>chart to reach any conclusion.

>

>Best Wishes,

>

>Kanupriya.

>

> >"srini007_24"

>

>

> >vedic astrology

> >vedic astrology

> >[vedic astrology] Regd:Retrograde status

of

> a planet

> >Tue, 08 Mar 2005 10:11:44 -0000

> >

> >

> >Hi,

> >

> >I have got one doubt about the retrograde status of

>the planet

> >(Jupiter) in my horoscope.

> >

> >Rasi

> >*****

> >lagna is Tula

> >

> >Jupiter is in retrograde status and it is in sixth

>house.

> >

> >navamsa

> >*******

> >

> >lagna is tula

> >

> >Jupiter is in 4th house that i.e in neecha status

> >

> >

> >

> >Jupiter is good or bad for me.Any one let me know

>about this.

> >

> >

> >Srini

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Hi Kanupriyaji,

 

Will u please explain me How the Lord of debilitation sign being in Kendra from the moon or

ascendant will cause the Neecha Bhanga .Because till now I read only Lord of Exaltation or the

Lord of the House or the Navamsa Lord being in Kendra from the moon or ascendant will cause

the Neecha Bhanga , It will help me in learning process.

 

 

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Om Dakshinamurtaya Namah

Dear Srini,

When a planet is in retrogression it is so in all the

divisionals as well.There are specefic rules for a planet to attain Neecha

bhanga.This is what I have understood:

The following can cause neecha banga:

1. Planet is in Kendra to Lagna or Moon.

2. Planet is exalted in Navamsa.

3. Planet is joined an exalted planet.

4. Lord of Exaltation or lord of debilitation sign is in Kendra to Moon or Lagna

5.The following can cause this by their placement in kendras to either Moon or

Lagna.

1. Lord of exaltation sign.

2. Lord of debilitation sign.

3. Planet which gets exalted in the debilitation sign.Or

4. Planet itself being exalted in navamsa

So this means there is always a clear set of planets which cause neecha

bhanga.Jupiter gets debilitated in Capricorn.Its neecha bhanga can be looked

into as:

1. Moon as lord of exaltation sign.

2. Saturn as lord of debilitation sign.

3. Mars as it gets exalted in Capricorn.

4. Jupiter placed in exalted navamsa.

Neecha bhanga means the planet will be able to come out of its troubled

circumstances and give better results.To see if it will lead to a Raaj Yoga

there must be Yogas for a raaj Yoga.Look for Yogadas for this.Planets have to

be studied both in the Rashi as well as the Navamsha.The Navamsha is what is in

our bhagya and the rashi indicates the circumstances this manifests into.If a

planet is strong in the D-9 and weak in D-1 then the native may not be feeling

unhappy as such during its periods and yet the circumstances around the naitve

may not be very good.There may not be huge negative incidents during this time

and neither huge gains.Since the D-9 also connects to marriage this can give

happiness in personal life.Both the charts are connected and should be studied

for results which are long lasting and influence the native's whole life.

Best Wishes,

Kanupriya.

 

>srinivasan --

>vedic astrology

>vedic astrology

>RE: [vedic astrology] Regd:Retrograde status of a planet

>Tue, 8 Mar 2005 22:44:43 -0800 (PST)

>

>

>Hi,

>

>navamasa

>*********

> >i would like to add one more point >This planet(Jupiter) is in retrigrade

status in >navamsa also. > >I have studied in some books that if the planet is

in >neecha status it should have neecha bangha...and it is >also in kendra so

it should have necha banga raja >yoga? > >whether this yoga will be there? > >

>one more question.... > >We have to take the planet effect in rashi or planet

>effect in navamsa? > >let me know your comments...... > >Srini > > > > > >---

Kanu Priya wrote: > > > >

Om >Dakshinamurtaya Namah >Dear Srini, > >

For Libra rising Jupiter is 3rd and 6th >lord.Its placed in the 6th house in

its own sign.A >benefic in the 6th looses some of the effect and more >so

Jupiter.6th lord being strong in the 6th house can >again cause some

problems.Its debility in Navamsha >only ensures that some struggles will come

your >way.Retrogression gives the planet immense strength >also termed as

'Cheshta bal'.Since this is also the >3rd lord it can give you immense energy

and make you >goal oriented and there will be delays in attaining >results of

the same.You also need to look at the chart >to see the Chara karaka status of

Jupiter.As such this >placement indicates that you will face some struggles >in

your 6th house matters.You must look at the whole >chart to reach any

conclusion. > >Best Wishes, > >Kanupriya. > > >"srini007_24"

> > > >vedic astrology > >To:

vedic astrology > >[vedic astrology] Regd:Retrograde

status of > a planet > >Tue, 08 Mar 2005 10:11:44 -0000 > > > > > >Hi, >

> > >I have got one doubt about the retrograde status of >the planet >

>(Jupiter) in my horoscope. > > > >Rasi > >***** > >lagna is Tula > > >

>Jupiter is in retrograde status and it is in sixth >house. > > > >navamsa >

>******* > > > >lagna is tula > > > >Jupiter is in 4th house that i.e in neecha

status > > > > > > > >Jupiter is good or bad for me.Any one let me know >about

this. > > > > > >Srini > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> Dear Kanupriyaji,

Thankyou for your reply.Your reply did clarify me about my doubts.

A small question, if venus(vakra) is 7degrees away from sun is it

combust?

Thanking you

Aruna Srimantula

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