Interpreting Parasara's Dreshkana Definition!

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Namaste friends,

 

I promised to Pradeep that I will give Parasara's verses defining drekkana and

various interpretations. Here it is.

 

* * *

 

Here are the verses from Santhanam's version of BPHS.

 

Verses 6-7, 6-8

 

raasi tribhaagaa dreshkaanaaste cha shattrimsadeeritaah |

parivrittitrayam teshaam meshaadeh kramaso bhavet ||

swa pancha navamaanaam cha raaseenaam kramasascha te |

naaradaagastidurvaasaa dreshkaanesaah charaadishu ||

 

Literal Meaning: The one-third parts of rasis are called dreshkanas. There are

36 of those. There are three repetitions of those, starting from Aries and

going in the regular order. They are of 1st, 5th and 9th of signs in the

regular order and dreshkana lords are Naarada, Agastya and Durvaasa, in movable

signs etc.

 

As you can see, this literal meaning is not too helpful and it needs some

interpretation. There are three possible interpretations. I will go through

them one after the other.

 

* * *

 

Interpretation 1:

 

If you go from the beginning of Aries and take 36 equal parts of the zodiac, you

get 0-10 Ar, 10-20 Ar, 20-30 Ar, 0-10 Ta, 10-20 Ta, 20-30 Ta and so on. These

are mapped to signs in such a way that the 12 signs in the zodiac repeat 3

times. We take the 1st, 5th and 9th from signs. So, for the 3 parts of Ar, the

mapping is Ar, Le and Sg. For the 3 parts of Ta, the mapping is Ta, Vi and Cp.

For the 3 parts of Ge, the mapping is Ge, Li and Aq. For the 3 parts of Cn, the

mapping is Cn, Sc and Pi. For the 3 parts of Le, the mapping is Le, Sg and Ar.

And so on.

 

The problem with this interpretation is that we get Ar, Le, Sg, Ta, Vi, Cp, Ge,

Li, Aq, Cn, Sc and Pi for the first 12 dreshkanas, Le, Sg, Ar, Vi, Cp, Ta, Li,

Aq, Ge, Sc, Pi and Cn for the second set of 12 dreshkanas and so on. This is

not exactly a repetition of the same thing three times. The word "parivritti

trayam" is not exactly upheld. However, argument can be made that parivritti

trayam ("cycling thru the zodiac three times") does not exactly mean repetition

of the same sequence 3 times, but covering the zodiac three times (possibly in

different order each time). This is a tenable argument.

 

Another problem with this interpretation is the word "charaadishu". This term

means "in movable signs etc". It implies that certain order given earlier

applies to movable signs and the orders in fixed and dual signs are expected to

be understood by the reader intelligently. However, one can argue that this term

applies to the assignment of Maharshis only and not to "swa pancha navamaanaam".

One can argue that Narada, Agastya and Durvasa are the lords of the 3 dreshkanas

in movable signs and there are other orders in fixed and dual signs. This view

is acceptable.

 

This interpretation is what Santhanam basically used in his translation of BPHS

(though he seems to have erred on maharshis and totally ignored the term

"charaadishu") and this interpretation is the most common one. Most software

programs find drekkana (D-3) chart this way.

 

In JHora, this chart is called "Parasara Drekkana", simply because the most

common interpretations of Parasara give this chart.

 

* * *

 

Interpretation 2:

 

In this interpretation, the term "charaadishu" is applied to "naaradaagasti

durvaasaah" as well as "swa pancha navamaanaam"! So the 3 drekkanas of a sign

go into 1st, 5th and 9th from it, if it is movable. Parasara hints that the

orders are different for fixed and dual signs, but does not specifically

mention them. He expects to work that intelligently.

 

Now the big clue is the term "parivritti trayam". Now we can interpret it very

strictly, unlike in the above interpretation. We can define the sequence for

fixed signs as "9th, 1st and 5th" and for dual signs as "5th, 9th and 1st".

With this definition, if we write down the signs corresponding to the 36

drekkanas, we get

 

Ar, Le, Sg, Cp, Ta, Vi, Li, Aq, Ge, Cn, Sc, Pi,

Ar, Le, Sg, Cp, Ta, Vi, Li, Aq, Ge, Cn, Sc, Pi,

Ar, Le, Sg, Cp, Ta, Vi, Li, Aq, Ge, Cn, Sc, Pi.

 

In other words, we do have a strict repetition three times!

 

So this is a very logical interpretation. This also fits with what Chandra Kala

Nadi says in verse 5752: "chare svaputranavapaah sthire dharmasvaputrapaah.

putradharmasvapaajneyaa drekkaanam vinyaset kramaat".

 

Though one can definitely argue that this is the correct interpretation of

Parasara, we want to respect the majority who use interpretation 1 and we call

this variation "Jagannatha Drekkana" in our tradition. In JHora also, it is

shown as "Jagannatha Drekkana".

 

You may recall that the above is basically Vishnu's progression. Progressing by

one sign is Brahma's progression and Narayana dasa progresses like chara dasa

(1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc) if lagna is in a movable sign. Progressing by 6 houses

is Shiva's progression and Narayana dasa progresses as 1st, 6th, 11th (6th from

6th), 4th (6th from 11th), 9th (6th from 4th) and so on. Progressing thru

dharma, artha, kama and moksha trikonas is Vishnu's progression and Narayana

dasa progresses as 1st, 5th, 9th, 10th, 2nd, 6th, 7th, 11th, 3rd, 4th, 8th and

12th if lagna is in a dual sign. You can notice that the above progression of

signs is like Narayana dasa progression for dual signs. So it has the stamp of

Vishnu on it. So we call it "Jagannatha Drekkana" in our tradition.

 

* * *

 

Interpretation 3:

 

One can interpret "parivritti trayam teshaam meshaadeh kramaso bhavet" as "there

is a repetition by three times of those starting from Aries and going in the

regular order. The word "meshaadeh" can be interpreted in two ways. It can mean

"starting from Aries" or "from the starting of Aries". In the above two

interpretations, we used the latter. So we used "meshaadeh" as a cue for

deciding the 10 deg parts whose drekkanas we are talking about. We interpreted

the line as saying "if the drekkanas of the 36 parts starting from 0-10 Ar and

going regularly are arranged in an order, there is a repetition of the zodiac

three times".

 

We can also interpret "meshaadeh" as "starting from Aries". Now this is being

used as a cue for deciding the drekkanas themselves! So this means "there is a

repetition by three times of the signs starting Aries". This implies that the

36 drekkanas are

 

Ar, Ta, Ge, Cn, Le, Vi, Li, Sc, Sg, Cp, Aq, Pi,

Ar, Ta, Ge, Cn, Le, Vi, Li, Sc, Sg, Cp, Aq, Pi,

Ar, Ta, Ge, Cn, Le, Vi, Li, Sc, Sg, Cp, Aq, Pi.

 

Here "parivritti trayam" is interpreted in the most straight-forward and strict way.

 

Now the third line "swa pancha navamaanaam" becomes tricky to interpret. That is

the weakness of this definition.

 

But one can argue that the 3rd and 4th lines go together. One can argue that the

first two lines define the drekkana mapping and the next two lines define the

ruling Maharshis!

 

Now the last two lines can mean "if you start from movable signs and take 1st,

5th and 9th, lords are Narada, Agastya and Durvasa."

 

In other words, here we are not deciding the maharshis based on which one third

of which sign. After finding the drekkana, we simply find the maharshi

associated with that drekkana sign.

 

Thus the last two verses are interpreted for maharshi assignment and the

drekkana mapping is exclusively derived from the second line.

 

This variation is called "Parivritti Traya Drekkana" in JHora.

 

* * *

 

In my judgment, all the three interpretations given above are valid

interpretations of Parasara. All of them are used by some group of astrologers

or the other. In our tradition, we use all the three charts and we use them for

different purposes. I will not at all be surprised if Parasara intended us to

read the verses in 3 different ways and he intended all the three meanings. As

somebody who understands the old Vedic paradigm of writing and the tradition of

transmitting secrets in verses, I will not at all shocked or surprised by the

idea that three different meanings could be buried in the same verses. But I am

sure it will sound weird to some.

 

There is another variation known as "Somanatha Drekkana", which does not seem to

have a basis in Parasara's teachings.

 

I hope the above interpretations make sense to the erudite among you.

 

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Dear Narasimha,

Thank you very much indeed for this clear and very detailed analysis

of the drekkana definitions. I now understand the verses of

Parashara much better, and there possible ramifications.

I you have time, would you mind telling us if just possibly (as a

hypothesis), in an astrological context, "parivritti trayam" as used

here could mean not only "cycling three times" or "there is a

repetition by three times", but something like "there is a movement

in cycles of three", possibly with a reversal of direction in

successive odd and even signs.

I know, for example, that in yoga asana, "parivritti" means a twist

posture, first in one direction, then in the other. Also, T.K.V.

Desikachar (son of Krishanmacharya of Chennai) says in an interview

that in yoga practice we are sometimes led to change direction in

our lives: "This sense of reorientation is communicated in the

Sanskrit term "parivritti"... seeing a bit ahead and redirection is

what is meant by the concept of "parivritti"."

Also, the Western words derived from the Sanskrit root "pari-"

sometimes mean "round in the same direction" (eg. periphery),

sometimes "turning in a new direction" (eg. peripetia: a sudden

change of direction of fortune, as in Greek tragedy). And in Vedic

astrology itself, while we have "paridhi" (circumference)

and "parikrama" (revolution), we also have "parivarthana" (exchange

of places).

So what I am really asking is: could "parivritti", as well as

referring to a movement round and round (like the hands of a clock),

also possibly include a movement turning back and forth (like the

thread on a weaver's loom).

Many, many thanks if you have time to reply!

Very best wishes

Graham Fox

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

> Namaste friends,

>

> I promised to Pradeep that I will give Parasara's verses defining

drekkana and various interpretations. Here it is.

>

> * * *

>

> Here are the verses from Santhanam's version of BPHS.

>

> Verses 6-7, 6-8

>

> raasi tribhaagaa dreshkaanaaste cha shattrimsadeeritaah |

> parivrittitrayam teshaam meshaadeh kramaso bhavet ||

> swa pancha navamaanaam cha raaseenaam kramasascha te |

> naaradaagastidurvaasaa dreshkaanesaah charaadishu ||

>

> Literal Meaning: The one-third parts of rasis are called

dreshkanas. There are 36 of those. There are three repetitions of

those, starting from Aries and going in the regular order. They are

of 1st, 5th and 9th of signs in the regular order and dreshkana

lords are Naarada, Agastya and Durvaasa, in movable signs etc.

>

> As you can see, this literal meaning is not too helpful and it

needs some interpretation. There are three possible interpretations.

I will go through them one after the other.

>

> * * *

>

> Interpretation 1:

>

> If you go from the beginning of Aries and take 36 equal parts of

the zodiac, you get 0-10 Ar, 10-20 Ar, 20-30 Ar, 0-10 Ta, 10-20 Ta,

20-30 Ta and so on. These are mapped to signs in such a way that the

12 signs in the zodiac repeat 3 times. We take the 1st, 5th and 9th

from signs. So, for the 3 parts of Ar, the mapping is Ar, Le and Sg.

For the 3 parts of Ta, the mapping is Ta, Vi and Cp. For the 3 parts

of Ge, the mapping is Ge, Li and Aq. For the 3 parts of Cn, the

mapping is Cn, Sc and Pi. For the 3 parts of Le, the mapping is Le,

Sg and Ar. And so on.

>

> The problem with this interpretation is that we get Ar, Le, Sg,

Ta, Vi, Cp, Ge, Li, Aq, Cn, Sc and Pi for the first 12 dreshkanas,

Le, Sg, Ar, Vi, Cp, Ta, Li, Aq, Ge, Sc, Pi and Cn for the second set

of 12 dreshkanas and so on. This is not exactly a repetition of the

same thing three times. The word "parivritti trayam" is not exactly

upheld. However, argument can be made that parivritti trayam

("cycling thru the zodiac three times") does not exactly mean

repetition of the same sequence 3 times, but covering the zodiac

three times (possibly in different order each time). This is a

tenable argument.

>

> Another problem with this interpretation is the

word "charaadishu". This term means "in movable signs etc". It

implies that certain order given earlier applies to movable signs

and the orders in fixed and dual signs are expected to be understood

by the reader intelligently. However, one can argue that this term

applies to the assignment of Maharshis only and not to "swa pancha

navamaanaam". One can argue that Narada, Agastya and Durvasa are the

lords of the 3 dreshkanas in movable signs and there are other

orders in fixed and dual signs. This view is acceptable.

>

> This interpretation is what Santhanam basically used in his

translation of BPHS (though he seems to have erred on maharshis and

totally ignored the term "charaadishu") and this interpretation is

the most common one. Most software programs find drekkana (D-3)

chart this way.

>

> In JHora, this chart is called "Parasara Drekkana", simply because

the most common interpretations of Parasara give this chart.

>

> * * *

>

> Interpretation 2:

>

> In this interpretation, the term "charaadishu" is applied

to "naaradaagasti durvaasaah" as well as "swa pancha navamaanaam"!

So the 3 drekkanas of a sign go into 1st, 5th and 9th from it, if it

is movable. Parasara hints that the orders are different for fixed

and dual signs, but does not specifically mention them. He expects

to work that intelligently.

>

> Now the big clue is the term "parivritti trayam". Now we can

interpret it very strictly, unlike in the above interpretation. We

can define the sequence for fixed signs as "9th, 1st and 5th" and

for dual signs as "5th, 9th and 1st". With this definition, if we

write down the signs corresponding to the 36 drekkanas, we get

>

> Ar, Le, Sg, Cp, Ta, Vi, Li, Aq, Ge, Cn, Sc, Pi,

> Ar, Le, Sg, Cp, Ta, Vi, Li, Aq, Ge, Cn, Sc, Pi,

> Ar, Le, Sg, Cp, Ta, Vi, Li, Aq, Ge, Cn, Sc, Pi.

>

> In other words, we do have a strict repetition three times!

>

> So this is a very logical interpretation. This also fits with what

Chandra Kala Nadi says in verse 5752: "chare svaputranavapaah sthire

dharmasvaputrapaah. putradharmasvapaajneyaa drekkaanam vinyaset

kramaat".

>

> Though one can definitely argue that this is the correct

interpretation of Parasara, we want to respect the majority who use

interpretation 1 and we call this variation "Jagannatha Drekkana" in

our tradition. In JHora also, it is shown as "Jagannatha Drekkana".

>

> You may recall that the above is basically Vishnu's progression.

Progressing by one sign is Brahma's progression and Narayana dasa

progresses like chara dasa (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc) if lagna is in a

movable sign. Progressing by 6 houses is Shiva's progression and

Narayana dasa progresses as 1st, 6th, 11th (6th from 6th), 4th (6th

from 11th), 9th (6th from 4th) and so on. Progressing thru dharma,

artha, kama and moksha trikonas is Vishnu's progression and Narayana

dasa progresses as 1st, 5th, 9th, 10th, 2nd, 6th, 7th, 11th, 3rd,

4th, 8th and 12th if lagna is in a dual sign. You can notice that

the above progression of signs is like Narayana dasa progression for

dual signs. So it has the stamp of Vishnu on it. So we call

it "Jagannatha Drekkana" in our tradition.

>

> * * *

>

> Interpretation 3:

>

> One can interpret "parivritti trayam teshaam meshaadeh kramaso

bhavet" as "there is a repetition by three times of those starting

from Aries and going in the regular order. The word "meshaadeh" can

be interpreted in two ways. It can mean "starting from Aries"

or "from the starting of Aries". In the above two interpretations,

we used the latter. So we used "meshaadeh" as a cue for deciding the

10 deg parts whose drekkanas we are talking about. We interpreted

the line as saying "if the drekkanas of the 36 parts starting from 0-

10 Ar and going regularly are arranged in an order, there is a

repetition of the zodiac three times".

>

> We can also interpret "meshaadeh" as "starting from Aries". Now

this is being used as a cue for deciding the drekkanas themselves!

So this means "there is a repetition by three times of the signs

starting Aries". This implies that the 36 drekkanas are

>

> Ar, Ta, Ge, Cn, Le, Vi, Li, Sc, Sg, Cp, Aq, Pi,

> Ar, Ta, Ge, Cn, Le, Vi, Li, Sc, Sg, Cp, Aq, Pi,

> Ar, Ta, Ge, Cn, Le, Vi, Li, Sc, Sg, Cp, Aq, Pi.

>

> Here "parivritti trayam" is interpreted in the most straight-

forward and strict way.

>

> Now the third line "swa pancha navamaanaam" becomes tricky to

interpret. That is the weakness of this definition.

>

> But one can argue that the 3rd and 4th lines go together. One can

argue that the first two lines define the drekkana mapping and the

next two lines define the ruling Maharshis!

>

> Now the last two lines can mean "if you start from movable signs

and take 1st, 5th and 9th, lords are Narada, Agastya and Durvasa."

>

> In other words, here we are not deciding the maharshis based on

which one third of which sign. After finding the drekkana, we simply

find the maharshi associated with that drekkana sign.

>

> Thus the last two verses are interpreted for maharshi assignment

and the drekkana mapping is exclusively derived from the second line.

>

> This variation is called "Parivritti Traya Drekkana" in JHora.

>

> * * *

>

> In my judgment, all the three interpretations given above are

valid interpretations of Parasara. All of them are used by some

group of astrologers or the other. In our tradition, we use all the

three charts and we use them for different purposes. I will not at

all be surprised if Parasara intended us to read the verses in 3

different ways and he intended all the three meanings. As somebody

who understands the old Vedic paradigm of writing and the tradition

of transmitting secrets in verses, I will not at all shocked or

surprised by the idea that three different meanings could be buried

in the same verses. But I am sure it will sound weird to some.

>

> There is another variation known as "Somanatha Drekkana", which

does not seem to have a basis in Parasara's teachings.

>

> I hope the above interpretations make sense to the erudite among

you.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

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Dear Pradeep,

 

> I totally disagree with your opinion that sage expects us to > interpret this

shloka in different ways.A definition is a definition > and hence it is just

one and only one.

 

A definition is a definition, but what is wrong in defining 3 things in one

shot? It is a smart use of words.

 

Moreover, it is not illogical if there are three kinds of drekkanas for three purposes.

 

> et us take Navamsha, the varga which has been generally > accpeted.More so due

to its synchronicity with nakshatra padas.They > are continous from Aries

following parivritti, 9 times.

 

Well, not so fast. Parasara only gives the lords of navamsas and not exactly

navamsa signs, when defining navamsa!

 

For example, the navamsa lords of the nine parts in Taurus are Saturn, Saturn,

Jupiter, Mars, Venus, Mercury, Moon, Sun and Mercury. What are the associated

signs? Are they Cp, Aq, Pi, Ar, Ta, Ge, Cn, Le and Vi? Or, are they Cp, Aq, Pi,

Sc, Li, Vi, Cn, Le and Ge?

 

It is not clear from the verses on navamsa. It could be either.

Later, when defining Kalachakra dasa, he talks about navamsas in savya and

apasavya nakshatras. Read those verses!!

 

There is a different navamsa chart and it is the basis of Kalachakra dasa.

 

I clearly see basis for two different navamsa charts in the teachings of

Parasara. They are given as "Parasara's Navamsa" and "Kalachakra Navamsa" in

JHora. Check them out!

 

I use Kalachakra navamsa chart when judging Kalachakra dasa.

> Thus possibilities 1 and 3 can be easily ruled.To support > this,astrologers

of yester years were pretty sure about the > definition.

 

You are being hasty. I too personally like interpretation 2 I gave, but I insist

that interpretations 1 and 3 are quite logical, acceptable and genuine.

> Malayalee astrologer Shri K.C.Keshavapillai in his book Jyotisha >

Gurubhoothan, after describing drekkana as one third division of a > rashi ,

defines the lords of first drekkana in any Rashi as > follows.''Rashi

Trikonangaliley Chara Rshayadhipan maar'' - Meaning > the Chara Lords in

Trikonas from the concerned Rashi.The doubts > which were remaining in my mind

got cleared with the translation > help from you.

 

It is not surprising that a Kerala astrologer would write that way, because

"Deva Keralam" explcitly mentions something that is consistent with

interpretation 2 of Parasara I gave.

 

But, if you think that that interpretation alone is correct and Santhanam and

others are fools, you will be hastiest person.

 

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> , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > <pvr@c...>

wrote:> > Namaste friends,> > > > I promised to Pradeep that I will give

Parasara's verses defining > drekkana and various interpretations. Here it is.>

> > > * * *> > > > Here are the verses from Santhanam's version of

BPHS.> > > > Verses 6-7, 6-8> > > > raasi tribhaagaa dreshkaanaaste cha

shattrimsadeeritaah |> > parivrittitrayam teshaam meshaadeh kramaso bhavet ||>

> swa pancha navamaanaam cha raaseenaam kramasascha te |> >

naaradaagastidurvaasaa dreshkaanesaah charaadishu ||> > > > Literal Meaning:

The one-third parts of rasis are called > dreshkanas. There are 36 of those.

There are three repetitions of > those, starting from Aries and going in the

regular order. They are > of 1st, 5th and 9th of signs in the regular order and

dreshkana > lords are Naarada, Agastya and Durvaasa, in movable signs etc.> > >

> As you can see, this literal meaning is not too helpful and it > needs some

interpretation. There are three possible interpretations. > I will go through

them one after the other.> > > > * * *> > > > Interpretation 1:>

> > > If you go from the beginning of Aries and take 36 equal parts of > the

zodiac, you get 0-10 Ar, 10-20 Ar, 20-30 Ar, 0-10 Ta, 10-20 Ta, > 20-30 Ta and

so on. These are mapped to signs in such a way that the > 12 signs in the

zodiac repeat 3 times. We take the 1st, 5th and 9th > from signs. So, for the 3

parts of Ar, the mapping is Ar, Le and Sg. > For the 3 parts of Ta, the mapping

is Ta, Vi and Cp. For the 3 parts > of Ge, the mapping is Ge, Li and Aq. For

the 3 parts of Cn, the > mapping is Cn, Sc and Pi. For the 3 parts of Le, the

mapping is Le, > Sg and Ar. And so on.> > > > The problem with this

interpretation is that we get Ar, Le, Sg, > Ta, Vi, Cp, Ge, Li, Aq, Cn, Sc and

Pi for the first 12 dreshkanas, > Le, Sg, Ar, Vi, Cp, Ta, Li, Aq, Ge, Sc, Pi

and Cn for the second set > of 12 dreshkanas and so on. This is not exactly a

repetition of the > same thing three times. The word "parivritti trayam" is not

exactly > upheld. However, argument can be made that parivritti trayam >

("cycling thru the zodiac three times") does not exactly mean > repetition of

the same sequence 3 times, but covering the zodiac > three times (possibly in

different order each time). This is a > tenable argument.> > > > Another

problem with this interpretation is the > word "charaadishu". This term means

"in movable signs etc". It > implies that certain order given earlier applies

to movable signs > and the orders in fixed and dual signs are expected to be

understood > by the reader intelligently. However, one can argue that this term

> applies to the assignment of Maharshis only and not to "swa pancha >

navamaanaam". One can argue that Narada, Agastya and Durvasa are the > lords of

the 3 dreshkanas in movable signs and there are other > orders in fixed and dual

signs. This view is acceptable.> > > > This interpretation is what Santhanam

basically used in his > translation of BPHS (though he seems to have erred on

maharshis and > totally ignored the term "charaadishu") and this interpretation

is > the most common one. Most software programs find drekkana (D-3) > chart

this way.> > > > In JHora, this chart is called "Parasara Drekkana", simply

because > the most common interpretations of Parasara give this chart.> > > > *

* *> > > > Interpretation 2:> > > > In this interpretation, the

term "charaadishu" is applied > to "naaradaagasti durvaasaah" as well as "swa

pancha navamaanaam"! > So the 3 drekkanas of a sign go into 1st, 5th and 9th

from it, if it > is movable. Parasara hints that the orders are different for

fixed > and dual signs, but does not specifically mention them. He expects > to

work that intelligently.> > > > Now the big clue is the term "parivritti

trayam". Now we can > interpret it very strictly, unlike in the above

interpretation. We > can define the sequence for fixed signs as "9th, 1st and

5th" and > for dual signs as "5th, 9th and 1st". With this definition, if we >

write down the signs corresponding to the 36 drekkanas, we get> > > > Ar, Le,

Sg, Cp, Ta, Vi, Li, Aq, Ge, Cn, Sc, Pi,> > Ar, Le, Sg, Cp, Ta, Vi, Li, Aq, Ge,

Cn, Sc, Pi,> > Ar, Le, Sg, Cp, Ta, Vi, Li, Aq, Ge, Cn, Sc, Pi.> > > > In other

words, we do have a strict repetition three times!> > > > So this is a very

logical interpretation. This also fits with what > Chandra Kala Nadi says in

verse 5752: "chare svaputranavapaah sthire > dharmasvaputrapaah.

putradharmasvapaajneyaa drekkaanam vinyaset > kramaat".> > > > Though one can

definitely argue that this is the correct > interpretation of Parasara, we want

to respect the majority who use > interpretation 1 and we call this variation

"Jagannatha Drekkana" in > our tradition. In JHora also, it is shown as

"Jagannatha Drekkana".> > > > You may recall that the above is basically

Vishnu's progression. > Progressing by one sign is Brahma's progression and

Narayana dasa > progresses like chara dasa (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc) if lagna is

in a > movable sign. Progressing by 6 houses is Shiva's progression and >

Narayana dasa progresses as 1st, 6th, 11th (6th from 6th), 4th (6th > from

11th), 9th (6th from 4th) and so on. Progressing thru dharma, > artha, kama and

moksha trikonas is Vishnu's progression and Narayana > dasa progresses as 1st,

5th, 9th, 10th, 2nd, 6th, 7th, 11th, 3rd, > 4th, 8th and 12th if lagna is in a

dual sign. You can notice that > the above progression of signs is like

Narayana dasa progression for > dual signs. So it has the stamp of Vishnu on

it. So we call > it "Jagannatha Drekkana" in our tradition.> > > > * *

*> > > > Interpretation 3:> > > > One can interpret "parivritti trayam

teshaam meshaadeh kramaso > bhavet" as "there is a repetition by three times of

those starting > from Aries and going in the regular order. The word "meshaadeh"

can > be interpreted in two ways. It can mean "starting from Aries" > or "from

the starting of Aries". In the above two interpretations, > we used the latter.

So we used "meshaadeh" as a cue for deciding the > 10 deg parts whose drekkanas

we are talking about. We interpreted > the line as saying "if the drekkanas of

the 36 parts starting from 0-> 10 Ar and going regularly are arranged in an

order, there is a > repetition of the zodiac three times".> > > > We can also

interpret "meshaadeh" as "starting from Aries". Now > this is being used as a

cue for deciding the drekkanas themselves! > So this means "there is a

repetition by three times of the signs > starting Aries". This implies that the

36 drekkanas are> > > > Ar, Ta, Ge, Cn, Le, Vi, Li, Sc, Sg, Cp, Aq, Pi,> > Ar,

Ta, Ge, Cn, Le, Vi, Li, Sc, Sg, Cp, Aq, Pi,> > Ar, Ta, Ge, Cn, Le, Vi, Li, Sc,

Sg, Cp, Aq, Pi.> > > > Here "parivritti trayam" is interpreted in the most

straight-> forward and strict way.> > > > Now the third line "swa pancha

navamaanaam" becomes tricky to > interpret. That is the weakness of this

definition.> > > > But one can argue that the 3rd and 4th lines go together.

One can > argue that the first two lines define the drekkana mapping and the >

next two lines define the ruling Maharshis!> > > > Now the last two lines can

mean "if you start from movable signs > and take 1st, 5th and 9th, lords are

Narada, Agastya and Durvasa."> > > > In other words, here we are not deciding

the maharshis based on > which one third of which sign. After finding the

drekkana, we simply > find the maharshi associated with that drekkana sign.> >

> > Thus the last two verses are interpreted for maharshi assignment > and the

drekkana mapping is exclusively derived from the second line.> > > > This

variation is called "Parivritti Traya Drekkana" in JHora.> > > > * *

*> > > > In my judgment, all the three interpretations given above are >

valid interpretations of Parasara. All of them are used by some > group of

astrologers or the other. In our tradition, we use all the > three charts and

we use them for different purposes. I will not at > all be surprised if

Parasara intended us to read the verses in 3 > different ways and he intended

all the three meanings. As somebody > who understands the old Vedic paradigm of

writing and the tradition > of transmitting secrets in verses, I will not at all

shocked or > surprised by the idea that three different meanings could be buried

> in the same verses. But I am sure it will sound weird to some.> > > > There is

another variation known as "Somanatha Drekkana", which > does not seem to have a

basis in Parasara's teachings.> > > > I hope the above interpretations make

sense to the erudite among > you.> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> >

Narasimha