question for group: using transits of guru AND shani combined

[Guest guest]

i spoke with an astrologer today, who says that for an event to

materialize from the point of view of gochara, not only is the

transit of jupiter to be looked at, (for example, transit guru

influencing 5th house and /or its lord gives childres, influencing

7th house and/or its lord gives marriage, etc) but that one must

actually use the transit of shani over the same houses, to give

results.

in other words, jupiter gives hope and promise, but shani needs to

give its "permission" so to speak, to give form and structure to the

promise of guru, in order for something to manifest.

so then, for having children, one would time the event with dasha

and bhuktis associated with 5th house, then see when transit guru

influences the 5th house, AND ALSO see when transit shani influences

the 5th house, and when BOTH guru AND shani influence the 5th house

by transit, THEN the childbirth is assured.

 

i value others opinions on this matter, as it shatters my pre-

concieved notion that shani denies and takes away when in transit,

and that transit shani influencing 5th house would if anything, deny

children.

 

kalidas

[Guest guest]

Om Krishna Guru

 

Namaste Kalidas,

 

You are correct.

I also understand the Sun's transits should be considered too.

 

Regards

Raghunatha Rao

 

vedic astrology, "mahakali108"

<mahakali108> wrote:

"mahakali108" <mahakali108>

Wed Mar 2, 2005 4:50 pm

 

question for group: using transits of guru AND shani

combined

 

i spoke with an astrologer today, who says that for an event to

materialize from the point of view of gochara, not only is the

transit of jupiter to be looked at, (for example, transit guru

influencing 5th house and /or its lord gives childres, influencing

7th house and/or its lord gives marriage, etc) but that one must

actually use the transit of shani over the same houses, to give

results.

in other words, jupiter gives hope and promise, but shani needs to

give its "permission" so to speak, to give form and structure to the

promise of guru, in order for something to manifest.

so then, for having children, one would time the event with dasha

and bhuktis associated with 5th house, then see when transit guru

influences the 5th house, AND ALSO see when transit shani influences

the 5th house, and when BOTH guru AND shani influence the 5th house

by transit, THEN the childbirth is assured.

 

i value others opinions on this matter, as it shatters my pre-

concieved notion that shani denies and takes away when in transit,

and that transit shani influencing 5th house would if anything, deny

children.

 

kalidas

[Guest guest]

Namaste,

 

Yes, It is an jyotish paradigm that "Nothing happens without guru's

blessing and shani's permission"

 

Infact one needs to look at shani's and guru's transits to see what

buttons are pushed in a chart. Rahu/ketu transits, I have found to be

not that imporatnt in actually manifesting an event.

 

....

 

 

 

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 22:50:04 -0000, mahakali108 <mahakali108 wrote:

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> i spoke with an astrologer today, who says that for an event to

> materialize from the point of view of gochara, not only is the

> transit of jupiter to be looked at, (for example, transit guru

> influencing 5th house and /or its lord gives childres, influencing

> 7th house and/or its lord gives marriage, etc) but that one must

> actually use the transit of shani over the same houses, to give

> results.

> in other words, jupiter gives hope and promise, but shani needs to

> give its "permission" so to speak, to give form and structure to the

> promise of guru, in order for something to manifest.

> so then, for having children, one would time the event with dasha

> and bhuktis associated with 5th house, then see when transit guru

> influences the 5th house, AND ALSO see when transit shani influences

> the 5th house, and when BOTH guru AND shani influence the 5th house

> by transit, THEN the childbirth is assured.

>

> i value others opinions on this matter, as it shatters my pre-

> concieved notion that shani denies and takes away when in transit,

> and that transit shani influencing 5th house would if anything, deny

> children.

>

> kalidas

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[Guest guest]

Namaste,

 

In my experience & hence opinion, Guru & Shani's combined transit

influence most definately tend to bring singnificant event (good or

bad) pertaining to the house matter or matters.

 

but i am afraid, it may not be always compulsary to have combined

transit influence of Guru & shani for event fructification because of

the simple reason that transit is a secondary to main

dasha/anatardasha.. influences & basic horoscope.

 

regards,

 

pathak

 

 

vedic astrology, "mahakali108"

<mahakali108> wrote:

>

> i spoke with an astrologer today, who says that for an event to

> materialize from the point of view of gochara, not only is the

> transit of jupiter to be looked at, (for example, transit guru

> influencing 5th house and /or its lord gives childres, influencing

> 7th house and/or its lord gives marriage, etc) but that one must

> actually use the transit of shani over the same houses, to give

> results.

> in other words, jupiter gives hope and promise, but shani needs to

> give its "permission" so to speak, to give form and structure to

the

> promise of guru, in order for something to manifest.

> so then, for having children, one would time the event with dasha

> and bhuktis associated with 5th house, then see when transit guru

> influences the 5th house, AND ALSO see when transit shani

influences

> the 5th house, and when BOTH guru AND shani influence the 5th house

> by transit, THEN the childbirth is assured.

>

> i value others opinions on this matter, as it shatters my pre-

> concieved notion that shani denies and takes away when in transit,

> and that transit shani influencing 5th house would if anything,

deny

> children.

>

> kalidas

[Guest guest]

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Kalidas, When talking about the birth of a child are you

talking about the time of conception or birth? If I apply this rule then during

the time of conception both Jupiter and Shani gave Rashi dristi to my 5th house

[Gemini] and Shani also had Grah dristi on my 5th lord.[October 1996] However,

during the time of childbirth [22 May 1997] Jupiter had no connection to my 5th

house or lord.

Best Wishes,

Kanupriya.

>"mahakali108" <mahakali108 >

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>[vedic astrology] question for group: using transits of guru AND

shani combined

>Wed, 02 Mar 2005 22:50:04 -0000

>

>

>i spoke with an astrologer today, who says that for an event to

>materialize from the point of view of gochara, not only is the

>transit of jupiter to be looked at, (for example, transit guru

>influencing 5th house and /or its lord gives childres, influencing

>7th house and/or its lord gives marriage, etc) but that one must

>actually use the transit of shani over the same houses, to give

>results.

>in other words, jupiter gives hope and promise, but shani needs to

>give its "permission" so to speak, to give form and structure to the

>promise of guru, in order for something to manifest.

>so then, for having children, one would time the event with dasha

>and bhuktis associated with 5th house, then see when transit guru

>influences the 5th house, AND ALSO see when transit shani influences

>the 5th house, and when BOTH guru AND shani influence the 5th house

>by transit, THEN the childbirth is assured.

>

>i value others opinions on this matter, as it shatters my pre-

>concieved notion that shani denies and takes away when in transit,

>and that transit shani influencing 5th house would if anything, deny

>children.

>

>kalidas

>

>

>

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