Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 I have a very good friend of mine who is under the same conditions facing physical abuse in a foreign country and having to manage with a very small child. I am enclosing both of their birth timings. I have not rectified her birth chart, but feel the current timings match the events in her life. I have not verifed the events in the male's chart. Female: DOB:- Sept 26th 1978 TOB:- 2:40 AM POB:- 78 E 30, 17 N 20. Male:- DOB:- Sept 16th 1973 TOB:- 16:55 PM POB:- 80 E 35, 16 N 15. In the Girl's chart UL has Sun,Mercury,Rahu in Virgo. Exalted Mercury in UL itself shows a spouse who is a well to do person. Also, in the Navamsa Chart, the 7th lord, Mercury is in Aquarius aspected by Saturn by Graha drishti and Ketu by Rasi drishti. Shastiamsa Reckoning : - The 9th house has Ketu in it and the 9th lord Jupiter is exalted in Lagna in Rasi Chart. But in the Shastiamsa chart, although Jupiter is in his own house he is in Visha-dagdha (don't know what it really means :-( ) Shastiamsa and Ketu is in Kroora Shastiamsa. She is running the Moola Dasa of Saturn who is in Kamalaakara Shastiamsa. Any remedies to help her will be of great help. Regards, SaiSarbani Sarkar <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Dear Vasudha,I would like to add some additional points to what everyone has analysedabout your chart. As Sanjay Prabhakaran has pointed out, the UL with Rahuand Moon bodes ill. The Moon is debilitated in rashi and drekkana. Saturnwas transiting 8th from this Moon during your worst periods, that is, youwere undergoing the sufferings of an Ashtam Shani. Karaka for marriage,Venus, is debilitated and conjunct 7th lord in rashi and in marana karakasthana in navamsha. The 7th lord Mars is also in marana karaka sthana innavamsha. The 7th lord Mars is as you pointed your AK, showing that yoursuffering and lessons of life will come from 7th house issues. Mostimportantly, your Dara Karaka Sun is debilitated in rashi, navamsha anddrekkana and it has just crossed Sankranti. Mercury is in the nakshatra ofits deadly enemy Rahu, is the 9th lord or your bhagyesha. It is thedispositor of Saturn. Now that Saturn is retrograded back to Gemini, it willbe malefic for you. Please do the Rudra Chamakam daily. Saturn is also yourBK. So appeasing your guru will be a very good idea. The remedy for the Mooncan be done through the ishta as has already been mentioned to you. WhenSaturn transits Cancer it will be ardha kantaka as it will be 10th from theLagna. As pointed out your 2nd from UL has the aspects of Rahu, Saturn andMars, hence Rahu's antara gave results. Did you get married between1995-1999?Best regards,Sarbani vasudhabhat27 [vasudhabhat27 ] Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:18 PMvedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Please Help-Husband beats meRespected GurusI am providing my birth data below.My husband has a violent temper and whenhe gets in a rage(which is frequent)-he beats me badly.He uses abusivelanguage also and beats for small mistakes also.Please tell me the following1.What is my longetivity.( as I pray to GOD to take me away) 2. When thisbattering will stop?3.What is the future of this relationship.( I dont want to separate,but Idont want being beaten also)my detailsDOB 18 OCt 1974Time : 7.59 AM( Hospital Records)Place: IndiaLong:72 E 50Lat 18 N 58His detailsDOB Dec 9 ,1969Time 12.35PM ( Mother's memory-may need to be rectified) Place : India Long: 85 E 20 LAt 23 N 21Please suggest any remedies for shanti.Response very much needed.Vasudha------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Hassomeone you know been affected by illness or disease?Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts!http://us.click./UwRTUD/UOnJAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM--~-> Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... LinksArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Dear Saikumar, have you noticed in both charts 2nd from UL is tenanted/aspected by malefics. Barring this aspect, it is difficult to understand physical violence. In Male chart, Sun does occupy 7th house in strength, but generally this indicates a dominating wife rather than other way round. Of course Moon conjuncts mars, Saturn conjuncts Ketu in Buddhi Sthana, so he may be having sudden bouts of uncontrolled rage. But I am a bit puzzled as to why that should translate into physical abuse of spouse as in the female's chart Jupiter aspects 7th house and in Navamsha too Moon tenanting 7th receives aspect of Jupiter. No doubt Mars aspects 7th, but receiving aspect of an exalted Jupiter should control the situation. I would say that situation is brought on more by transit Saturn, and 12th and 3rd Lord Mercury's dasha. Did the problems begin when Saturn was in last degrees of Mithuna in its transit of that Rasi prior to its entry to cancer? Did they get worse after its retrograde entry to Mithuna around 13th again? I would say check up whether she is wearing any Gems of functional malefics. By the way, are the quarels related to physical incompatibility? Especially on the Male's part. Chandrashekhar. saikumar wrote: Namasthe Sarbaniji,Chandrashekarji, and Sanjay Prabhakaran ji I have a very good friend of mine who is under the same conditions facing physical abuse in a foreign country and having to manage with a very small child. I am enclosing both of their birth timings. I have not rectified her birth chart, but feel the current timings match the events in her life. I have not verifed the events in the male's chart. Female: DOB:- Sept 26th 1978 TOB:- 2:40 AM POB:- 78 E 30, 17 N 20. Male:- DOB:- Sept 16th 1973 TOB:- 16:55 PM POB:- 80 E 35, 16 N 15. In the Girl's chart UL has Sun,Mercury,Rahu in Virgo. Exalted Mercury in UL itself shows a spouse who is a well to do person. Also, in the Navamsa Chart, the 7th lord, Mercury is in Aquarius aspected by Saturn by Graha drishti and Ketu by Rasi drishti. Shastiamsa Reckoning : - The 9th house has Ketu in it and the 9th lord Jupiter is exalted in Lagna in Rasi Chart. But in the Shastiamsa chart, although Jupiter is in his own house he is in Visha-dagdha (don't know what it really means :-( ) Shastiamsa and Ketu is in Kroora Shastiamsa. She is running the Moola Dasa of Saturn who is in Kamalaakara Shastiamsa. Any remedies to help her will be of great help. Regards, Sai Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Dear Vasudha, I would like to add some additional points to what everyone has analysed about your chart. As Sanjay Prabhakaran has pointed out, the UL with Rahu and Moon bodes ill. The Moon is debilitated in rashi and drekkana. Saturn was transiting 8th from this Moon during your worst periods, that is, you were undergoing the sufferings of an Ashtam Shani. Karaka for marriage, Venus, is debilitated and conjunct 7th lord in rashi and in marana karaka sthana in navamsha. The 7th lord Mars is also in marana karaka sthana in navamsha. The 7th lord Mars is as you pointed your AK, showing that your suffering and lessons of life will come from 7th house issues. Most importantly, your Dara Karaka Sun is debilitated in rashi, navamsha and drekkana and it has just crossed Sankranti. Mercury is in the nakshatra of its deadly enemy Rahu, is the 9th lord or your bhagyesha. It is the dispositor of Saturn. Now that Saturn is retrograded back to Gemini, it will be malefic for you. Please do the Rudra Chamakam daily. Saturn is also your BK. So appeasing your guru will be a very good idea. The remedy for the Moon can be done through the ishta as has already been mentioned to you. When Saturn transits Cancer it will be ardha kantaka as it will be 10th from the Lagna. As pointed out your 2nd from UL has the aspects of Rahu, Saturn and Mars, hence Rahu's antara gave results. Did you get married between 1995-1999? Best regards, Sarbani vasudhabhat27 [vasudhabhat27 ] Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:18 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Please Help-Husband beats me Respected Gurus I am providing my birth data below.My husband has a violent temper and when he gets in a rage(which is frequent)-he beats me badly.He uses abusive language also and beats for small mistakes also.Please tell me the following 1.What is my longetivity.( as I pray to GOD to take me away) 2. When this battering will stop? 3.What is the future of this relationship.( I dont want to separate,but I dont want being beaten also) my details DOB 18 OCt 1974 Time : 7.59 AM( Hospital Records) Place: India Long:72 E 50 Lat 18 N 58 His details DOB Dec 9 ,1969 Time 12.35PM ( Mother's memory-may need to be rectified) Place : India Long : 85 E 20 LAt 23 N 21 Please suggest any remedies for shanti. Response very much needed. Vasudha ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click./UwRTUD/UOnJAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM --~-> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Namasthe Chandraskhar Ji, Let me clarify some things as I understand from your reading. have you noticed in both charts 2nd from UL is tenanted/aspected by malefics. --> I was provided both the charts before marriage( around Jan 2003), and with my limited knowledge then that I learnt on this forum, I advised not to go for the match based on the same criteria. But as people say, Marriages are made in Heaven and Celebrated on Earth, the marriage did happen. I would say that situation is brought on more by transit Saturn, and 12th and 3rd Lord Mercury's dasha -- I wish it is because of transit. Since she just started the Mahadasa of Mercury which is going to last for 17 years. I don't think anyone can take that level of pain for so long. The marriage itself happened when she started Sade-Sathi and it never went right, from day one. Did the problems begin when Saturn was in last degrees of Mithuna in its transit of that Rasi prior to its entry to cancer? Did they get worse after its retrograde entry to Mithuna around 13th again? --> I would say from what I heard from her, that they have worsened in the last few months i.e the abuse turning from a verbal one to physical one. But I cannot believe that since the physical abuse has started it would end with Saturn entering into Cancer again. I would say check up whether she is wearing any Gems of functional malefics --> As far as I know, she does not wear any Gems at all. Anyhow I would double check with her (unfortunately most of the conversation with her is over phone as she lives in a different city). Also, I was reading the thread on Vasudhaji, the similarity is that the Lagna lord is in 12th house in both cases. By the way, are the quarels related to physical incompatibility? Especially on the Male's part. --> I am not sure about this one, because the Male is on a travelling job, so, he comes home once in 2 weeks for the weekend( may be that is one way that her life is being saved). The only time he took her alongwith him was last month to a place where her sister lives and left at her there after a big fight and almost choking her to death.Later on he changed his mind and asked her to return to their home. As a sidenote, I tried correcting the male's birth chart (Thanks to Narasimha's generous gift of JHL 7.0 and the MP3 classes) based on the marriage date, and it made more sense for me with a Capricorn navamsa Lagna rather than the current Sagittarius Lagna. Also, with a Capricorn lagna with Saturn/Venus/Ketu in Lagna and Rahu in the 7th house of Moon, his weird behaviour in the matters of Dharma(Marital life) are explained better. On an non-astrological front we have advised her to come stay with us, and she is not prepared to do so, as she is likely to get her permanent residence status very soon. She might loose the whole thing, if she initiates the separation process and that is holding her from taking any legal action right away. Any remedies would be of great help. Regards, Sai Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Saikumar,have you noticed in both charts 2nd from UL is tenanted/aspected by malefics. Barring this aspect, it is difficult to understand physical violence. In Male chart, Sun does occupy 7th house in strength, but generally this indicates a dominating wife rather than other way round. Of course Moon conjuncts mars, Saturn conjuncts Ketu in Buddhi Sthana, so he may be having sudden bouts of uncontrolled rage. But I am a bit puzzled as to why that should translate into physical abuse of spouse as in the female's chart Jupiter aspects 7th house and in Navamsha too Moon tenanting 7th receives aspect of Jupiter. No doubt Mars aspects 7th, but receiving aspect of an exalted Jupiter should control the situation. I would say that situation is brought on more by transit Saturn, and 12th and 3rd Lord Mercury's dasha. Did the problems begin when Saturn was in last degrees of Mithuna in its transit of that Rasi prior to its entry to cancer? Did they get worse after its retrograde entry to Mithuna around 13th again? I would say check up whether she is wearing any Gems of functional malefics.By the way, are the quarels related to physical incompatibility? Especially on the Male's part.Chandrashekhar.saikumar wrote: Namasthe Sarbaniji,Chandrashekarji, and Sanjay Prabhakaran ji I have a very good friend of mine who is under the same conditions facing physical abuse in a foreign country and having to manage with a very small child. I am enclosing both of their birth timings. I have not rectified her birth chart, but feel the current timings match the events in her life. I have not verifed the events in the male's chart. Female: DOB:- Sept 26th 1978 TOB:- 2:40 AM POB:- 78 E 30, 17 N 20. Male:- DOB:- Sept 16th 1973 TOB:- 16:55 PM POB:- 80 E 35, 16 N 15. In the Girl's chart UL has Sun,Mercury,Rahu in Virgo. Exalted Mercury in UL itself shows a spouse who is a well to do person. Also, in the Navamsa Chart, the 7th lord, Mercury is in Aquarius aspected by Saturn by Graha drishti and Ketu by Rasi drishti. Shastiamsa Reckoning : - The 9th house has Ketu in it and the 9th lord Jupiter is exalted in Lagna in Rasi Chart. But in the Shastiamsa chart, although Jupiter is in his own house he is in Visha-dagdha (don't know what it really means :-( ) Shastiamsa and Ketu is in Kroora Shastiamsa. She is running the Moola Dasa of Saturn who is in Kamalaakara Shastiamsa. Any remedies to help her will be of great help. Regards, SaiSarbani Sarkar <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Dear Vasudha,I would like to add some additional points to what everyone has analysedabout your chart. As Sanjay Prabhakaran has pointed out, the UL with Rahuand Moon bodes ill. The Moon is debilitated in rashi and drekkana. Saturnwas transiting 8th from this Moon during your worst periods, that is, youwere undergoing the sufferings of an Ashtam Shani. Karaka for marriage,Venus, is debilitated and conjunct 7th lord in rashi and in marana karakasthana in navamsha. The 7th lord Mars is also in marana karaka sthana innavamsha. The 7th lord Mars is as you pointed your AK, showing that yoursuffering and lessons of life will come from 7th house issues. Mostimportantly, your Dara Karaka Sun is debilitated in rashi, navamsha anddrekkana and it has just crossed Sankranti. Mercury is in the nakshatra ofits deadly enemy Rahu, is the 9th lord or your bhagyesha. It is thedispositor of Saturn. Now that Saturn is retrograded back to Gemini, it willbe malefic for you. Please do the Rudra Chamakam daily. Saturn is also yourBK. So appeasing your guru will be a very good idea. The remedy for the Mooncan be done through the ishta as has already been mentioned to you. WhenSaturn transits Cancer it will be ardha kantaka as it will be 10th from theLagna. As pointed out your 2nd from UL has the aspects of Rahu, Saturn andMars, hence Rahu's antara gave results. Did you get married between1995-1999?Best regards,Sarbani vasudhabhat27 [vasudhabhat27 ] Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:18 PMvedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Please Help-Husband beats meRespected GurusI am providing my birth data below.My husband has a violent temper and whenhe gets in a rage(which is frequent)-he beats me badly.He uses abusivelanguage also and beats for small mistakes also.Please tell me the following1.What is my longetivity.( as I pray to GOD to take me away) 2. When thisbattering will stop?3.What is the future of this relationship.( I dont want to separate,but Idont want being beaten also)my detailsDOB 18 OCt 1974Time : 7.59 AM( Hospital Records)Place: IndiaLong:72 E 50Lat 18 N 58His detailsDOB Dec 9 ,1969Time 12.35PM ( Mother's memory-may need to be rectified) Place : India Long: 85 E 20 LAt 23 N 21Please suggest any remedies for shanti.Response very much needed.Vasudha------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Hassomeone you know been affected by illness or disease?Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts!http://us.click./UwRTUD/UOnJAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM--~-> Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... LinksArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 A set of general questions to all of you experts. I find all of you quickly jumping to conclusions and offering remedies. To me, even the root of the problem is not visible. Perhaps I am just slow on the uptake. When I look at the two charts: 1) Male - Aquarius Ascendant, Venus in Libra in 9th, Moolatrikona Mars in 3, Sun in Leo in 7th, Upapada in Scorpio, 2nd from UL Rahu. 2) Female - 2nd from UL Mars in 4th, UL with Mercury exalted Sun and Rahu, Hamsa and Malavya mahapurush yogas. Ok, so both charts have malefics in 2nd from UL so sustenance of marriage is a problem. Female chart has Kuja dosha. Male chart has nothing in UL and UL lord in Moolatrikona. Female chart has UL lord exalted with Rahu and Sun. Sun is not malefic for Upapada. Can someone tell me if they did NOT know which chart was male and which was female, how can they say that Chart 1 is beating Chart 2. What astrological indication is there that clearly show this (I am not contradicting the fact, simply asking for its astrological basis). If so, can you please clearly show this indication and also show that it works in the other two abuse cases currently in discussion. Otherwise all this is just hand waving after knowing the facts. The only thing I see is - both have powerful malefics in 2nd from UL, so sustenance of the marriage is problematic for sure. But why??? When I look further I see the male has Sun in Leo in the 7th - dominating person in relationships for sure. But how did this progress to beating - I dont know. The female has exalted Jupiter aspecting 7th as well as Mars too (Kuja dosha). I am assuming the powerful aspect of Jupiter relieves that of Mars so she is probably treating him better than he is treating her. But the beatings - where is that coming from?? Everyone with a strong Sun in 7th does not beat - 99% of Indian males dominate their wives and are happily married even in the opinion of their wives - I know a lot of you will immediately say that in the part of India YOU come from it isnt true, but I happen to know otherwise for all parts. Mars rasi dristi on Leo? Not sufficient in my opinion - way too common. Mars+moon showing quick anger COUPLED with Rasi dristi on 7th? Is Rasi dristi that powerful? Doubtful. What is it then? His Venus is Moolatrikona, so is hers. Doesnt look like a one sided lack of passion. His Venus in Navamsa is coupled with Saturn and Ketu. Is that it? Can someone clearly show me why the problem exists before solving it? Sundeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Namaste, Your friend's chart has karka lagna and Guru in it exalted and has dik bala. Thats the redeeming feature as per seventh house is concerned. Seventh lord is in 2nd and in bhava kundali rahu and budh move to the second house. So two first rate malefics in the house of family in eighth from seventh. I have found that the malefics in second house are detrimental to marital hapiness. The seventh house has aspect of mangal, ofcouse guru aspects it too. The karaka shukra is with mangal and aspectd by shani. Shukra however is in own sign and also is strong in dikbal. navansh lagna has mangal and rahu so the situation does not imrove much there either She has just started mercury mahadasha, so technically she is in dasha chidra. Also she is going through sade sati. Ask her to recite hanuman chalisa or pray to hanumaan for sade saati effects. I feel that exalted gurus aspect on the seventh house would be able to save this in the end. .... P.S. I am noticing here that many people are straight away jumping to divisional charts and arudhas in divisional charts etc. The divisional charts are a tertiary factor. It could be important to clinch the issue in the end, however one needs to look at primary factors first and derive as much from it as possible. if the rashi chart does not promise something, divisional chart can not deliver the results. On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:48:34 -0800 (PST), saikumar <astrossk wrote: > Namasthe Sarbaniji,Chandrashekarji, and Sanjay Prabhakaran ji > > I have a very good friend of mine who is under the same conditions facing > physical abuse in a foreign country and having to manage with a very small > child. > > I am enclosing both of their birth timings. > > I have not rectified her birth chart, but feel the current timings match the > events in her life. > > I have not verifed the events in the male's chart. > > Female: > > DOB:- Sept 26th 1978 > TOB:- 2:40 AM > POB:- 78 E 30, 17 N 20. > > Male:- > > DOB:- Sept 16th 1973 > TOB:- 16:55 PM > POB:- 80 E 35, 16 N 15. > > In the Girl's chart UL has Sun,Mercury,Rahu in Virgo. Exalted Mercury in UL > itself shows a spouse who is a well to do person. > > Also, in the Navamsa Chart, the 7th lord, Mercury is in Aquarius aspected by > Saturn by Graha drishti and Ketu by Rasi drishti. > > Shastiamsa Reckoning : - The 9th house has Ketu in it and the 9th lord > Jupiter is exalted in Lagna in Rasi Chart. But in the Shastiamsa chart, > although Jupiter is in his own house he is in > Visha-dagdha (don't know what it really means :-( ) Shastiamsa and Ketu is > in Kroora Shastiamsa. She is running the Moola Dasa of Saturn who is in > Kamalaakara Shastiamsa. > > Any remedies to help her will be of great help. > > Regards, > > Sai > > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani wrote: > Dear Vasudha, > > I would like to add some additional points to what everyone has analysed > about your chart. As Sanjay Prabhakaran has pointed out, the UL with Rahu > and Moon bodes ill. The Moon is debilitated in rashi and drekkana. Saturn > was transiting 8th from this Moon during your worst periods, that is, you > were undergoing the sufferings of an Ashtam Shani. Karaka for marriage, > Venus, is debilitated and conjunct 7th lord in rashi and in marana karaka > sthana in navamsha. The 7th lord Mars is also in marana karaka sthana in > navamsha. The 7th lord Mars is as you pointed your AK, showing that your > suffering and lessons of life will come from 7th house issues. Most > importantly, your Dara Karaka Sun is debilitated in rashi, navamsha and > drekkana and it has just crossed Sankranti. Mercury is in the nakshatra of > its deadly enemy Rahu, is the 9th lord or your bhagyesha. It is the > dispositor of Saturn. Now that Saturn is retrograded back to Gemini, it will > be malefic for you. Please do the Rudra Chamakam daily. Saturn is also your > BK. So appeasing your guru will be a very good idea. The remedy for the Moon > can be done through the ishta as has already been mentioned to you. When > Saturn transits Cancer it will be ardha kantaka as it will be 10th from the > Lagna. As pointed out your 2nd from UL has the aspects of Rahu, Saturn and > Mars, hence Rahu's antara gave results. Did you get married between > 1995-1999? > > Best regards, > > Sarbani > > > vasudhabhat27 [vasudhabhat27] > Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:18 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Please Help-Husband beats me > > > > Respected Gurus > > I am providing my birth data below.My husband has a violent temper and when > he gets in a rage(which is frequent)-he beats me badly.He uses abusive > language also and beats for small mistakes also.Please tell me the following > > 1.What is my longetivity.( as I pray to GOD to take me away) 2. When this > battering will stop? > 3.What is the future of this relationship.( I dont want to separate,but I > dont want being beaten also) > > my details > > DOB 18 OCt 1974 > Time : 7.59 AM( Hospital Records) > Place: India > Long:72 E 50 > Lat 18 N 58 > > > His details > > DOB Dec 9 ,1969 > Time 12.35PM ( Mother's memory-may need to be rectified) Place : India Long > : 85 E 20 LAt 23 N 21 > > > Please suggest any remedies for shanti. > > Response very much needed. > > Vasudha > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Has > someone you know been affected by illness or disease? > Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! > http://us.click./UwRTUD/UOnJAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM > --~-> > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 At last, one person with courage to say kind word. Dear sisters, Vasudha and Kalyani, nobody should be beaten, and not by husband, ever, husband is one who protects from beating from world, not one who does beating. I was in same case. Then I live alone, I and my son are happy, no one to beat. God is kind, he spare my life to care for son. Son and daughter-in-law nice care taking of old Ma now, now I am happy. Think, if your husband kills you or you go suicide, who will do care for children? Or, if your son sees you beat, why he listen to you tomorrow when you tell him good things? Why he take care of you if Papa not take care of you? Better to be alone and pray to God, so next life is better. If stay, you live in hell, and husband goes to hell for sin, women not hurt in Hinduism, for Ma Durga is in women. He should stop. Wish for death is wrong. Life is there because God gave it. Do your karma and leave all to Krishna. As mother, child safe is most imprtant and no one except mother care like that. You care child, next life you have good husband too. Jyoti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Dear Saikumar, I understand the agony the lady must be undergoing. By the way, I did not say that the problems would be over following Saturn's transit. It could linger on till Ketu Antar begins. Chandrashekhar. saikumar wrote: Hare Rama Krishna, Namasthe Chandraskhar Ji, Let me clarify some things as I understand from your reading. have you noticed in both charts 2nd from UL is tenanted/aspected by malefics. --> I was provided both the charts before marriage( around Jan 2003), and with my limited knowledge then that I learnt on this forum, I advised not to go for the match based on the same criteria. But as people say, Marriages are made in Heaven and Celebrated on Earth, the marriage did happen. I would say that situation is brought on more by transit Saturn, and 12th and 3rd Lord Mercury's dasha -- I wish it is because of transit. Since she just started the Mahadasa of Mercury which is going to last for 17 years. I don't think anyone can take that level of pain for so long. The marriage itself happened when she started Sade-Sathi and it never went right, from day one. Did the problems begin when Saturn was in last degrees of Mithuna in its transit of that Rasi prior to its entry to cancer? Did they get worse after its retrograde entry to Mithuna around 13th again? --> I would say from what I heard from her, that they have worsened in the last few months i.e the abuse turning from a verbal one to physical one. But I cannot believe that since the physical abuse has started it would end with Saturn entering into Cancer again. I would say check up whether she is wearing any Gems of functional malefics --> As far as I know, she does not wear any Gems at all. Anyhow I would double check with her (unfortunately most of the conversation with her is over phone as she lives in a different city). Also, I was reading the thread on Vasudhaji, the similarity is that the Lagna lord is in 12th house in both cases. By the way, are the quarels related to physical incompatibility? Especially on the Male's part. --> I am not sure about this one, because the Male is on a travelling job, so, he comes home once in 2 weeks for the weekend( may be that is one way that her life is being saved). The only time he took her alongwith him was last month to a place where her sister lives and left at her there after a big fight and almost choking her to death.Later on he changed his mind and asked her to return to their home. As a sidenote, I tried correcting the male's birth chart (Thanks to Narasimha's generous gift of JHL 7.0 and the MP3 classes) based on the marriage date, and it made more sense for me with a Capricorn navamsa Lagna rather than the current Sagittarius Lagna. Also, with a Capricorn lagna with Saturn/Venus/Ketu in Lagna and Rahu in the 7th house of Moon, his weird behaviour in the matters of Dharma(Marital life) are explained better. On an non-astrological front we have advised her to come stay with us, and she is not prepared to do so, as she is likely to get her permanent residence status very soon. She might loose the whole thing, if she initiates the separation process and that is holding her from taking any legal action right away. Any remedies would be of great help. Regards, Sai Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Saikumar, have you noticed in both charts 2nd from UL is tenanted/aspected by malefics. Barring this aspect, it is difficult to understand physical violence. In Male chart, Sun does occupy 7th house in strength, but generally this indicates a dominating wife rather than other way round. Of course Moon conjuncts mars, Saturn conjuncts Ketu in Buddhi Sthana, so he may be having sudden bouts of uncontrolled rage. But I am a bit puzzled as to why that should translate into physical abuse of spouse as in the female's chart Jupiter aspects 7th house and in Navamsha too Moon tenanting 7th receives aspect of Jupiter. No doubt Mars aspects 7th, but receiving aspect of an exalted Jupiter should control the situation. I would say that situation is brought on more by transit Saturn, and 12th and 3rd Lord Mercury's dasha. Did the problems begin when Saturn was in last degrees of Mithuna in its transit of that Rasi prior to its entry to cancer? Did they get worse after its retrograde entry to Mithuna around 13th again? I would say check up whether she is wearing any Gems of functional malefics. By the way, are the quarels related to physical incompatibility? Especially on the Male's part.Chandrashekhar. saikumar wrote: Namasthe Sarbaniji,Chandrashekarji, and Sanjay Prabhakaran ji I have a very good friend of mine who is under the same conditions facing physical abuse in a foreign country and having to manage with a very small child. I am enclosing both of their birth timings. I have not rectified her birth chart, but feel the current timings match the events in her life. I have not verifed the events in the male's chart. Female: DOB:- Sept 26th 1978 TOB:- 2:40 AM POB:- 78 E 30, 17 N 20. Male:- DOB:- Sept 16th 1973 TOB:- 16:55 PM POB:- 80 E 35, 16 N 15. In the Girl's chart UL has Sun,Mercury,Rahu in Virgo. Exalted Mercury in UL itself shows a spouse who is a well to do person. Also, in the Navamsa Chart, the 7th lord, Mercury is in Aquarius aspected by Saturn by Graha drishti and Ketu by Rasi drishti. Shastiamsa Reckoning : - The 9th house has Ketu in it and the 9th lord Jupiter is exalted in Lagna in Rasi Chart. But in the Shastiamsa chart, although Jupiter is in his own house he is in Visha-dagdha (don't know what it really means :-( ) Shastiamsa and Ketu is in Kroora Shastiamsa. She is running the Moola Dasa of Saturn who is in Kamalaakara Shastiamsa. Any remedies to help her will be of great help. Regards, Sai Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Dear Vasudha, I would like to add some additional points to what everyone has analysed about your chart. As Sanjay Prabhakaran has pointed out, the UL with Rahu and Moon bodes ill. The Moon is debilitated in rashi and drekkana. Saturn was transiting 8th from this Moon during your worst periods, that is, you were undergoing the sufferings of an Ashtam Shani. Karaka for marriage, Venus, is debilitated and conjunct 7th lord in rashi and in marana karaka sthana in navamsha. The 7th lord Mars is also in marana karaka sthana in navamsha. The 7th lord Mars is as you pointed your AK, showing that your suffering and lessons of life will come from 7th house issues. Most importantly, your Dara Karaka Sun is debilitated in rashi, navamsha and drekkana and it has just crossed Sankranti. Mercury is in the nakshatra of its deadly enemy Rahu, is the 9th lord or your bhagyesha. It is the dispositor of Saturn. Now that Saturn is retrograded back to Gemini, it will be malefic for you. Please do the Rudra Chamakam daily. Saturn is also your BK. So appeasing your guru will be a very good idea. The remedy for the Moon can be done through the ishta as has already been mentioned to you. When Saturn transits Cancer it will be ardha kantaka as it will be 10th from the Lagna. As pointed out your 2nd from UL has the aspects of Rahu, Saturn and Mars, hence Rahu's antara gave results. Did you get married between 1995-1999? Best regards, Sarbani vasudhabhat27 [vasudhabhat27 ] Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:18 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Please Help-Husband beats me Respected Gurus I am providing my birth data below.My husband has a violent temper and when he gets in a rage(which is frequent)-he beats me badly.He uses abusive language also and beats for small mistakes also.Please tell me the following 1.What is my longetivity.( as I pray to GOD to take me away) 2. When this battering will stop? 3.What is the future of this relationship.( I dont want to separate,but I dont want being beaten also) my details DOB 18 OCt 1974 Time : 7.59 AM( Hospital Records) Place: India Long:72 E 50 Lat 18 N 58 His details DOB Dec 9 ,1969 Time 12.35PM ( Mother's memory-may need to be rectified) Place : India Long : 85 E 20 LAt 23 N 21 Please suggest any remedies for shanti. Response very much needed. 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Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Hare Rama Krishna, Namasthe Panditji, Thank for sparing time to look into the chart of my friend. I would love to hear that her problems would end with her Sade Saathi. But that does not seem to be the case according to what I understood from your message. I have just posted another question about Divorce and timing of it. Thinking on non-astrological grounds, some one can chant any Mantra or do any Pooja, when atleast their body is in normal condition and not being bashed black and blue.Also, the purpose of Pooja here is a little bit confusing ( in this specific case), what should she be praying, Pray to God to give her husband better sense so as not to physically abuse her or Pray to God to give her strength(and resources) so that she can get away from this abuser and live a better life. In plain english, what I want to ask is, is she better off living by herself or living with this person and take the abuse. I know it is a difficult question for everyone(including the person herself), but I wanted to see if there was an astrological angle to it, that would help the situation and help in making a decision( to take a divorce or not). Regards, Sai --- Panditji <navagraha wrote: > Namaste, > > Your friend's chart has karka lagna and Guru in it > exalted and has > dik bala. Thats the redeeming feature as per seventh > house is > concerned. Seventh lord is in 2nd and in bhava > kundali rahu and budh > move to the second house. So two first rate malefics > in the house of > family in eighth from seventh. I have found that the > malefics in > second house are detrimental to marital hapiness. > The seventh house > has aspect of mangal, ofcouse guru aspects it too. > The karaka shukra > is with mangal and aspectd by shani. Shukra however > is in own sign and > also is strong in dikbal. > > navansh lagna has mangal and rahu so the situation > does not imrove > much there either > > She has just started mercury mahadasha, so > technically she is in dasha > chidra. Also she is going through sade sati. > > Ask her to recite hanuman chalisa or pray to > hanumaan for sade saati effects. > > I feel that exalted gurus aspect on the seventh > house would be able to > save this in the end. > > ... > > P.S. I am noticing here that many people are > straight away jumping to > divisional charts and arudhas in divisional charts > etc. The divisional > charts are a tertiary factor. It could be important > to clinch the > issue in the end, however one needs to look at > primary factors first > and derive as much from it as possible. if the rashi > chart does not > promise something, divisional chart can not deliver > the results. > > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:48:34 -0800 (PST), saikumar > <astrossk wrote: > > Namasthe Sarbaniji,Chandrashekarji, and Sanjay > Prabhakaran ji > > > > I have a very good friend of mine who is under the > same conditions facing > > physical abuse in a foreign country and having to > manage with a very small > > child. > > > > I am enclosing both of their birth timings. > > > > I have not rectified her birth chart, but feel the > current timings match the > > events in her life. > > > > I have not verifed the events in the male's chart. > > > > Female: > > > > DOB:- Sept 26th 1978 > > TOB:- 2:40 AM > > POB:- 78 E 30, 17 N 20. > > > > Male:- > > > > DOB:- Sept 16th 1973 > > TOB:- 16:55 PM > > POB:- 80 E 35, 16 N 15. > > > > In the Girl's chart UL has Sun,Mercury,Rahu in > Virgo. Exalted Mercury in UL > > itself shows a spouse who is a well to do person. > > > > Also, in the Navamsa Chart, the 7th lord, Mercury > is in Aquarius aspected by > > Saturn by Graha drishti and Ketu by Rasi drishti. > > > > Shastiamsa Reckoning : - The 9th house has Ketu in > it and the 9th lord > > Jupiter is exalted in Lagna in Rasi Chart. But in > the Shastiamsa chart, > > although Jupiter is in his own house he is in > > Visha-dagdha (don't know what it really means :-( > ) Shastiamsa and Ketu is > > in Kroora Shastiamsa. She is running the Moola > Dasa of Saturn who is in > > Kamalaakara Shastiamsa. > > > > Any remedies to help her will be of great help. > > > > Regards, > > > > Sai > > > > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani wrote: > > Dear Vasudha, > > > > I would like to add some additional points to what > everyone has analysed > > about your chart. As Sanjay Prabhakaran has > pointed out, the UL with Rahu > > and Moon bodes ill. The Moon is debilitated in > rashi and drekkana. Saturn > > was transiting 8th from this Moon during your > worst periods, that is, you > > were undergoing the sufferings of an Ashtam Shani. > Karaka for marriage, > > Venus, is debilitated and conjunct 7th lord in > rashi and in marana karaka > > sthana in navamsha. The 7th lord Mars is also in > marana karaka sthana in > > navamsha. The 7th lord Mars is as you pointed your > AK, showing that your > > suffering and lessons of life will come from 7th > house issues. Most > > importantly, your Dara Karaka Sun is debilitated > in rashi, navamsha and > > drekkana and it has just crossed Sankranti. > Mercury is in the nakshatra of > > its deadly enemy Rahu, is the 9th lord or your > bhagyesha. It is the > > dispositor of Saturn. Now that Saturn is > retrograded back to Gemini, it will > > be malefic for you. Please do the Rudra Chamakam > daily. Saturn is also your > > BK. So appeasing your guru will be a very good > idea. The remedy for the Moon > > can be done through the ishta as has already been > mentioned to you. When > > Saturn transits Cancer it will be ardha kantaka as > it will be 10th from the > > Lagna. As pointed out your 2nd from UL has the > aspects of Rahu, Saturn and > > Mars, hence Rahu's antara gave results. Did you > get married between > > 1995-1999? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > vasudhabhat27 > [vasudhabhat27] > > Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:18 PM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Please Help-Husband > beats me > > > > > > > > Respected Gurus > > > > I am providing my birth data below.My husband has > a violent temper and when > > he gets in a rage(which is frequent)-he beats me > badly.He uses abusive > > language also and beats for small mistakes > also.Please tell me the following > > > > 1.What is my longetivity.( as I pray to GOD to > take me away) 2. When this > > battering will stop? > > 3.What is the future of this relationship.( I dont > want to separate,but I > > dont want being beaten also) > > > > my details > > > > DOB 18 OCt 1974 > > Time : 7.59 AM( Hospital Records) > > Place: India > > Long:72 E 50 > > Lat 18 N 58 > > > > > > His details > > > > DOB Dec 9 ,1969 > > Time 12.35PM ( Mother's memory-may need to be > rectified) Place : India Long > > : 85 E 20 LAt 23 N 21 > > > > > > Please suggest any remedies for shanti. > > > > Response very much needed. > > > === message truncated === Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Namaste Saikumar, I do not know your friend and her situation at close. Just on the face of it , NO..no one should stay with someone who beats them up and in western countries one can get an restraining order should she decide to live on her own. However I do not know the situation, as understand she is living in a foreign country so may be if she separates will she have legal residence status to stay in the country ? May be thats what is keeping her in this relationship, and ofcourse the children. But if she can support herself and has legal standing as to work and reside in the country she is in....then may be this abuser should be residing in jail. Can she not talk with anyone. She has no family nearby. How about husband's family. If they socialize then how about husband's friends their wives. She should confide with someone who can help her where she resides. .... On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 07:29:14 -0800 (PST), saikumar <astrossk wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna, > > Namasthe Panditji, > > Thank for sparing time to look into the chart of my > friend. > > I would love to hear that her problems would end with > her Sade Saathi. But that does not seem to be the case > according to what I understood from your message. > > I have just posted another question about Divorce and > timing of it. > > Thinking on non-astrological grounds, some one can > chant any Mantra or do any Pooja, when atleast their > body is in normal condition and not being bashed black > and blue.Also, the purpose of Pooja here is a little > bit confusing ( in this specific case), what should > she be praying, Pray to God to give her husband better > sense so as not to physically abuse her or Pray to God > to give her strength(and resources) so that she can > get away from this abuser and live a better life. > > In plain english, what I want to ask is, is she better > off living by herself or living with this person and > take the abuse. I know it is a difficult question for > everyone(including the person herself), but I wanted > to see if there was an astrological angle to it, that > would help the situation and help in making a > decision( to take a divorce or not). > > Regards, > > Sai > > --- Panditji <navagraha wrote: > > > Namaste, > > > > Your friend's chart has karka lagna and Guru in it > > exalted and has > > dik bala. Thats the redeeming feature as per seventh > > house is > > concerned. Seventh lord is in 2nd and in bhava > > kundali rahu and budh > > move to the second house. So two first rate malefics > > in the house of > > family in eighth from seventh. I have found that the > > malefics in > > second house are detrimental to marital hapiness. > > The seventh house > > has aspect of mangal, ofcouse guru aspects it too. > > The karaka shukra > > is with mangal and aspectd by shani. Shukra however > > is in own sign and > > also is strong in dikbal. > > > > navansh lagna has mangal and rahu so the situation > > does not imrove > > much there either > > > > She has just started mercury mahadasha, so > > technically she is in dasha > > chidra. Also she is going through sade sati. > > > > Ask her to recite hanuman chalisa or pray to > > hanumaan for sade saati effects. > > > > I feel that exalted gurus aspect on the seventh > > house would be able to > > save this in the end. > > > > ... > > > > P.S. I am noticing here that many people are > > straight away jumping to > > divisional charts and arudhas in divisional charts > > etc. The divisional > > charts are a tertiary factor. It could be important > > to clinch the > > issue in the end, however one needs to look at > > primary factors first > > and derive as much from it as possible. if the rashi > > chart does not > > promise something, divisional chart can not deliver > > the results. > > > > > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:48:34 -0800 (PST), saikumar > > <astrossk wrote: > > > Namasthe Sarbaniji,Chandrashekarji, and Sanjay > > Prabhakaran ji > > > > > > I have a very good friend of mine who is under the > > same conditions facing > > > physical abuse in a foreign country and having to > > manage with a very small > > > child. > > > > > > I am enclosing both of their birth timings. > > > > > > I have not rectified her birth chart, but feel the > > current timings match the > > > events in her life. > > > > > > I have not verifed the events in the male's chart. > > > > > > Female: > > > > > > DOB:- Sept 26th 1978 > > > TOB:- 2:40 AM > > > POB:- 78 E 30, 17 N 20. > > > > > > Male:- > > > > > > DOB:- Sept 16th 1973 > > > TOB:- 16:55 PM > > > POB:- 80 E 35, 16 N 15. > > > > > > In the Girl's chart UL has Sun,Mercury,Rahu in > > Virgo. Exalted Mercury in UL > > > itself shows a spouse who is a well to do person. > > > > > > Also, in the Navamsa Chart, the 7th lord, Mercury > > is in Aquarius aspected by > > > Saturn by Graha drishti and Ketu by Rasi drishti. > > > > > > Shastiamsa Reckoning : - The 9th house has Ketu in > > it and the 9th lord > > > Jupiter is exalted in Lagna in Rasi Chart. But in > > the Shastiamsa chart, > > > although Jupiter is in his own house he is in > > > Visha-dagdha (don't know what it really means :-( > > ) Shastiamsa and Ketu is > > > in Kroora Shastiamsa. She is running the Moola > > Dasa of Saturn who is in > > > Kamalaakara Shastiamsa. > > > > > > Any remedies to help her will be of great help. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sai > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani wrote: > > > Dear Vasudha, > > > > > > I would like to add some additional points to what > > everyone has analysed > > > about your chart. As Sanjay Prabhakaran has > > pointed out, the UL with Rahu > > > and Moon bodes ill. The Moon is debilitated in > > rashi and drekkana. Saturn > > > was transiting 8th from this Moon during your > > worst periods, that is, you > > > were undergoing the sufferings of an Ashtam Shani. > > Karaka for marriage, > > > Venus, is debilitated and conjunct 7th lord in > > rashi and in marana karaka > > > sthana in navamsha. The 7th lord Mars is also in > > marana karaka sthana in > > > navamsha. The 7th lord Mars is as you pointed your > > AK, showing that your > > > suffering and lessons of life will come from 7th > > house issues. Most > > > importantly, your Dara Karaka Sun is debilitated > > in rashi, navamsha and > > > drekkana and it has just crossed Sankranti. > > Mercury is in the nakshatra of > > > its deadly enemy Rahu, is the 9th lord or your > > bhagyesha. It is the > > > dispositor of Saturn. Now that Saturn is > > retrograded back to Gemini, it will > > > be malefic for you. Please do the Rudra Chamakam > > daily. Saturn is also your > > > BK. So appeasing your guru will be a very good > > idea. The remedy for the Moon > > > can be done through the ishta as has already been > > mentioned to you. When > > > Saturn transits Cancer it will be ardha kantaka as > > it will be 10th from the > > > Lagna. As pointed out your 2nd from UL has the > > aspects of Rahu, Saturn and > > > Mars, hence Rahu's antara gave results. Did you > > get married between > > > 1995-1999? > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > vasudhabhat27 > > [vasudhabhat27] > > > Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:18 PM > > > vedic astrology > > > [vedic astrology] Please Help-Husband > > beats me > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurus > > > > > > I am providing my birth data below.My husband has > > a violent temper and when > > > he gets in a rage(which is frequent)-he beats me > > badly.He uses abusive > > > language also and beats for small mistakes > > also.Please tell me the following > > > > > > 1.What is my longetivity.( as I pray to GOD to > > take me away) 2. When this > > > battering will stop? > > > 3.What is the future of this relationship.( I dont > > want to separate,but I > > > dont want being beaten also) > > > > > > my details > > > > > > DOB 18 OCt 1974 > > > Time : 7.59 AM( Hospital Records) > > > Place: India > > > Long:72 E 50 > > > Lat 18 N 58 > > > > > > > > > His details > > > > > > DOB Dec 9 ,1969 > > > Time 12.35PM ( Mother's memory-may need to be > > rectified) Place : India Long > > > : 85 E 20 LAt 23 N 21 > > > > > > > > > Please suggest any remedies for shanti. > > > > > > Response very much needed. > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. > http://info.mail./mail_250 > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > Sponsor > > > ________________________________ > Links > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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