Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Hello, I would very much like to have the opinion of group members about the variants in calculation methods for divisional charts, particularly Sheshadri Iyer's use of simple harmonics instead of the more complex or seemingly irregular methods for some DCs as given by Parashara (D2, D3, D4, D10, D12, D24, D40, D45, D60). Iyer seems to favour straightforward harmonics which cycle the zodiac 2, 3, 4, 10 etc times, without interruption starting from Aries. Other Parashara DCs use this simple harmonic approach (which is the same as is used in Western harmonic charts) - eg. D7, D9, D16, D20. I notice that a contemporary Indian astrologer, K. Chandra Hari (Kerala.com), is strongly of the opinion that the DCs should be simple harmonics. He points out that the method of calculation in BPHS of the D2 and D3, for example, are ambiguous: from the D2, after explaining first that the first half of odd signs are governed by the Sun, the second by the Moon, and reverse for even signs, BPHS then says: "The 24 halves of Rasis, those constitute the Hora-Cakra, form two cycles of signs beginning with Mesha". A similar problem exists for the BPHS definition of D3. Do any members have opinions or experience on this matter? Many thanks for any help Graham Fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 Dear Graham , The main difference in the Western Harmonics and Parashari ones is that in Western , the whole zodiac is treated as 360 degrees one entity and then divided and subdivided . For example D 9 will be 40 degree division . In Parashari each rashi of 30 degrees is treated as one entity and then divided and subdivided . D 9 becomes a division of 3 degrees and 20 minutes . Western astrologers seem to be getting good results by combining harmonic charts with transits . Regards , Anand Anand K. Ghurye Mobile : 9820 489 416 email : hmm_aha ---------- ----- Consultant - Training , HR and Development Email : hmm_aha http://www.angelfire.com/linux/corporateastrology/ growthanddevelopment ExecutiveCoaching http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Ghurye1.html http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Ghurye3.html ---------- ----- - Graham Fox <fox.graham <vedic astrology> Friday, February 11, 2005 3:17 AM [vedic astrology] divisional charts / harmonics > > > > Hello, > I would very much like to have the opinion of group members about > the variants in calculation methods for divisional charts, > particularly Sheshadri Iyer's use of simple harmonics instead of the > more complex or seemingly irregular methods for some DCs as given by > Parashara (D2, D3, D4, D10, D12, D24, D40, D45, D60). Iyer seems to > favour straightforward harmonics which cycle the zodiac 2, 3, 4, 10 > etc times, without interruption starting from Aries. Other Parashara > DCs use this simple harmonic approach (which is the same as is used > in Western harmonic charts) - eg. D7, D9, D16, D20. I notice that a > contemporary Indian astrologer, K. Chandra Hari (Kerala.com), is > strongly of the opinion that the DCs should be simple harmonics. He > points out that the method of calculation in BPHS of the D2 and D3, > for example, are ambiguous: from the D2, after explaining first that > the first half of odd signs are governed by the Sun, the second by > the Moon, and reverse for even signs, BPHS then says: "The 24 halves > of Rasis, those constitute the Hora-Cakra, form two cycles of signs > beginning with Mesha". A similar problem exists for the BPHS > definition of D3. Do any members have opinions or experience on this > matter? > Many thanks for any help > Graham Fox > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Dear Anand, Thank you for your kind reply. I understand the ways the DCs and harmonics are calculated in the two systems. As you say, Western hamonics are always a division of the whole 360° circle. But some Indian DCs are more like harmonics in the Western sense(D9, D7, D27 etc) and do not start on the same sign as the rashi which they subdivide, but go round the circle from 0° Aries. Others clearly divide each sign and not the whole cirlce: they start on the same sign, and do not go round the 360° in sequence (e.g. D12, D60). Still others seem strangely irregular, such as the D10. What interested me was that Sheshadri Iyer preferred the simple harmonics, aligning all the DCs on the principle of the D9, D7 etc. A few other Indian astrologers seem to agree with him. I would very much like to have any suggestions from anyone for a rationale behind the Parasara construction of the D10, which seems the most strange, or for any experience with the Iyer DCs within Indian astrology. Thank you again for your remarks. Graham Fox vedic astrology, Aadarsh <shivaji@c...> wrote: > > Dear Graham , > > The main difference in the Western Harmonics and Parashari ones is that in > Western , the whole zodiac is treated as 360 degrees one entity and then > divided and subdivided . For example D 9 will be 40 degree division . In > Parashari each rashi of 30 degrees is treated as one entity and then divided > and subdivided . D 9 becomes a division of 3 degrees and 20 minutes . > > Western astrologers seem to be getting good results by combining harmonic > charts with transits . > > > Regards , > > Anand > > Anand K. Ghurye > Mobile : 9820 489 416 email : hmm_aha > > - --------- > - ---- > Consultant - Training , HR and Development > Email : hmm_aha > http://www.angelfire.com/linux/corporateastrology/ > growthanddevelopment > ExecutiveCoaching > http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Ghurye1.html > http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Ghurye3.html > > - --------- > - ---- > > - > Graham Fox <fox.graham@w...> > <vedic astrology> > Friday, February 11, 2005 3:17 AM > [vedic astrology] divisional charts / harmonics > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > I would very much like to have the opinion of group members about > > the variants in calculation methods for divisional charts, > > particularly Sheshadri Iyer's use of simple harmonics instead of the > > more complex or seemingly irregular methods for some DCs as given by > > Parashara (D2, D3, D4, D10, D12, D24, D40, D45, D60). Iyer seems to > > favour straightforward harmonics which cycle the zodiac 2, 3, 4, 10 > > etc times, without interruption starting from Aries. Other Parashara > > DCs use this simple harmonic approach (which is the same as is used > > in Western harmonic charts) - eg. D7, D9, D16, D20. I notice that a > > contemporary Indian astrologer, K. Chandra Hari (Kerala.com), is > > strongly of the opinion that the DCs should be simple harmonics. He > > points out that the method of calculation in BPHS of the D2 and D3, > > for example, are ambiguous: from the D2, after explaining first that > > the first half of odd signs are governed by the Sun, the second by > > the Moon, and reverse for even signs, BPHS then says: "The 24 halves > > of Rasis, those constitute the Hora-Cakra, form two cycles of signs > > beginning with Mesha". A similar problem exists for the BPHS > > definition of D3. Do any members have opinions or experience on this > > matter? > > Many thanks for any help > > Graham Fox > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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