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Hello,

I would very much like to have the opinion of group members about

the variants in calculation methods for divisional charts,

particularly Sheshadri Iyer's use of simple harmonics instead of the

more complex or seemingly irregular methods for some DCs as given by

Parashara (D2, D3, D4, D10, D12, D24, D40, D45, D60). Iyer seems to

favour straightforward harmonics which cycle the zodiac 2, 3, 4, 10

etc times, without interruption starting from Aries. Other Parashara

DCs use this simple harmonic approach (which is the same as is used

in Western harmonic charts) - eg. D7, D9, D16, D20. I notice that a

contemporary Indian astrologer, K. Chandra Hari (Kerala.com), is

strongly of the opinion that the DCs should be simple harmonics. He

points out that the method of calculation in BPHS of the D2 and D3,

for example, are ambiguous: from the D2, after explaining first that

the first half of odd signs are governed by the Sun, the second by

the Moon, and reverse for even signs, BPHS then says: "The 24 halves

of Rasis, those constitute the Hora-Cakra, form two cycles of signs

beginning with Mesha". A similar problem exists for the BPHS

definition of D3. Do any members have opinions or experience on this

matter?

Many thanks for any help

Graham Fox

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Dear Graham ,

 

The main difference in the Western Harmonics and Parashari ones is that in

Western , the whole zodiac is treated as 360 degrees one entity and then

divided and subdivided . For example D 9 will be 40 degree division . In

Parashari each rashi of 30 degrees is treated as one entity and then divided

and subdivided . D 9 becomes a division of 3 degrees and 20 minutes .

 

Western astrologers seem to be getting good results by combining harmonic

charts with transits .

 

 

Regards ,

 

Anand

 

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Graham Fox <fox.graham

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Friday, February 11, 2005 3:17 AM

[vedic astrology] divisional charts / harmonics

 

 

>

>

>

> Hello,

> I would very much like to have the opinion of group members about

> the variants in calculation methods for divisional charts,

> particularly Sheshadri Iyer's use of simple harmonics instead of the

> more complex or seemingly irregular methods for some DCs as given by

> Parashara (D2, D3, D4, D10, D12, D24, D40, D45, D60). Iyer seems to

> favour straightforward harmonics which cycle the zodiac 2, 3, 4, 10

> etc times, without interruption starting from Aries. Other Parashara

> DCs use this simple harmonic approach (which is the same as is used

> in Western harmonic charts) - eg. D7, D9, D16, D20. I notice that a

> contemporary Indian astrologer, K. Chandra Hari (Kerala.com), is

> strongly of the opinion that the DCs should be simple harmonics. He

> points out that the method of calculation in BPHS of the D2 and D3,

> for example, are ambiguous: from the D2, after explaining first that

> the first half of odd signs are governed by the Sun, the second by

> the Moon, and reverse for even signs, BPHS then says: "The 24 halves

> of Rasis, those constitute the Hora-Cakra, form two cycles of signs

> beginning with Mesha". A similar problem exists for the BPHS

> definition of D3. Do any members have opinions or experience on this

> matter?

> Many thanks for any help

> Graham Fox

>

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Dear Anand,

Thank you for your kind reply. I understand the ways the DCs and

harmonics are calculated in the two systems. As you say, Western

hamonics are always a division of the whole 360° circle. But some

Indian DCs are more like harmonics in the Western sense(D9, D7, D27

etc) and do not start on the same sign as the rashi which they

subdivide, but go round the circle from 0° Aries. Others clearly

divide each sign and not the whole cirlce: they start on the same

sign, and do not go round the 360° in sequence (e.g. D12, D60).

Still others seem strangely irregular, such as the D10. What

interested me was that Sheshadri Iyer preferred the simple

harmonics, aligning all the DCs on the principle of the D9, D7 etc.

A few other Indian astrologers seem to agree with him. I would very

much like to have any suggestions from anyone for a rationale behind

the Parasara construction of the D10, which seems the most strange,

or for any experience with the Iyer DCs within Indian astrology.

Thank you again for your remarks.

Graham Fox

 

vedic astrology, Aadarsh <shivaji@c...> wrote:

>

> Dear Graham ,

>

> The main difference in the Western Harmonics and Parashari ones is

that in

> Western , the whole zodiac is treated as 360 degrees one entity

and then

> divided and subdivided . For example D 9 will be 40 degree

division . In

> Parashari each rashi of 30 degrees is treated as one entity and

then divided

> and subdivided . D 9 becomes a division of 3 degrees and 20

minutes .

>

> Western astrologers seem to be getting good results by combining

harmonic

> charts with transits .

>

>

> Regards ,

>

> Anand

>

> Anand K. Ghurye

> Mobile : 9820 489 416 email : hmm_aha

>

> -

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> -

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> Consultant - Training , HR and Development

> Email : hmm_aha

> http://www.angelfire.com/linux/corporateastrology/

> growthanddevelopment

> ExecutiveCoaching

> http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Ghurye1.html

> http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Ghurye3.html

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> Graham Fox <fox.graham@w...>

> <vedic astrology>

> Friday, February 11, 2005 3:17 AM

> [vedic astrology] divisional charts / harmonics

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> > I would very much like to have the opinion of group members about

> > the variants in calculation methods for divisional charts,

> > particularly Sheshadri Iyer's use of simple harmonics instead of

the

> > more complex or seemingly irregular methods for some DCs as

given by

> > Parashara (D2, D3, D4, D10, D12, D24, D40, D45, D60). Iyer seems

to

> > favour straightforward harmonics which cycle the zodiac 2, 3, 4,

10

> > etc times, without interruption starting from Aries. Other

Parashara

> > DCs use this simple harmonic approach (which is the same as is

used

> > in Western harmonic charts) - eg. D7, D9, D16, D20. I notice

that a

> > contemporary Indian astrologer, K. Chandra Hari (Kerala.com), is

> > strongly of the opinion that the DCs should be simple harmonics.

He

> > points out that the method of calculation in BPHS of the D2 and

D3,

> > for example, are ambiguous: from the D2, after explaining first

that

> > the first half of odd signs are governed by the Sun, the second

by

> > the Moon, and reverse for even signs, BPHS then says: "The 24

halves

> > of Rasis, those constitute the Hora-Cakra, form two cycles of

signs

> > beginning with Mesha". A similar problem exists for the BPHS

> > definition of D3. Do any members have opinions or experience on

this

> > matter?

> > Many thanks for any help

> > Graham Fox

> >

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