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|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Dear Friends,

For some jyotish fun, I would like to know what you think is

the kaaraka (signifier/ruler) for Umbrella. Please give quotes from

from any authority or your reasoning if possible.

 

:-)

 

Warm Regards

Sanjay P.

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Hi,

 

Uttara-kalamrita says one of the significations of

moon is umbrella and other royal insignia.

It also adds "white umbrella" is a signification for

venus.

 

Nakshatra logic: Umbrella is the symbol for both

Anuradha and Jyeshta nakshatra.

 

The following are my own thoughts (Others can

certainly contribute their opinions). Philosophically,

Bharani nakshatra stands for protection. If I am not

wrong, "Bharan" means maintenance. It stands for the

female organ / uterus; where, a foetus is sustained

till he/she is ready to come into the world.

 

Similarly, philosophically, "chatri" or umbrella

stands for the roof, that protects you in the world.

Just wondering if anyone else can see the link between

these two protective influences, on either side of the

line.

 

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Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Sanjay,

 

Does the word "chowrie" mean an umbrella?

 

Thanks,

 

Swee

 

 

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Tuesday, February 01, 2005 7:53 PM

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|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Dear Friends,

For some jyotish fun, I would like to know what you think is

the kaaraka (signifier/ruler) for Umbrella. Please give quotes from

from any authority or your reasoning if possible.

 

:-)

 

Warm Regards

Sanjay P.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Swee,

Cowrie means Shells I think.

Regards

Sanjay P

 

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> Dear Sanjay,

>

> Does the word "chowrie" mean an umbrella?

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> For some jyotish fun, I would like to know what you think is

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> from any authority or your reasoning if possible.

>

> :-)

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> Warm Regards

> Sanjay P.

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Om Krishna Guru

 

Namaste Swee Ji,

 

As Sanjay Ji said "Cowrie" is a Shell and also used in

"AshtaMangala Prashna" too.

 

Regards

Raghunatha Rao

 

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Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Sanjay,

 

Does the word "chowrie" mean an umbrella?

 

Thanks,

 

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Dear Swee,

Chowrie means a sort of fan made of fibers tied lengthwise. This was

used for persons of authorities like Kings. If you have gone to any

Gurudwaaras( Sikh place of worship), you will find the Granthasaheb

(Sacred book of Sikhs) being fanned by this device by the devotees.

Chandrashekhar.

Swee Chan wrote:

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Sanjay,

Does the word "chowrie" mean an umbrella?

Thanks,

Swee

 

sanjaychettiar [sanjaychettiar ]

Tuesday, February 01, 2005 7:53 PM

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[vedic astrology] Jyotish Quiz: Umbrella Kaaraka

|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Dear Friends,

For some jyotish fun, I would like to know what you think is

the kaaraka (signifier/ruler) for Umbrella. Please give quotes from

from any authority or your reasoning if possible.

:-)

Warm Regards

Sanjay P.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi All,

 

That is correct. Chowrie is a fan made of the hairs

of a horse tail. Cowrie is a sea-shell shaped like a

"yoni".

 

Thanks,

Sesha.

 

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> Dear Swee,

> Chowrie means a sort of fan made of fibers tied

> lengthwise. This was

> used for persons of authorities like Kings. If you

> have gone to any

> Gurudwaaras( Sikh place of worship), you will find

> the Granthasaheb

> (Sacred book of Sikhs) being fanned by this device

> by the devotees.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Swee Chan wrote:

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> >

> > Does the word "chowrie" mean an umbrella?

> >

> > Thanks,

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Dear Swee,

Chowrie means a sort of fan made of fibers tied lengthwise. This was used for

persons of authorities like Kings. If you have gone to any Gurudwaaras( Sikh

place of worship), you will find the Granthasaheb (Sacred book of Sikhs) being

fanned by this device by the devotees.

Chandrashekhar.

Swee Chan wrote:

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Sanjay,

Does the word "chowrie" mean an

umbrella?

Thanks,

Swee

 

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Tuesday, February 01, 2005 7:53 PM

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Dear Friends,

For some jyotish fun, I would like to know what

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the kaaraka (signifier/ruler) for Umbrella. Please

give quotes from

from any authority or your reasoning if possible.

:-)

Warm Regards

Sanjay P.

 

 

 

 

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AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

 

Dear Sanjay,

 

Moon is considered to be the significator of Umbrella/chatra.(reference -

Uttarakalamritha slokas 25 - 29 in Khanda V).

 

There is a saying "chatra bhanga" associated with sade sathi. This means the

umbrella/protection is removed during the period of sade sathi(seven and half

year saturn cycle). Moon is considered as the natural amatyakaraka who under

the influence of Sani brings out the svabava(natural reaction) of the

Atmakaraka during the period of sade sathi.(Sani the vidatha brings out the

svabava of the jataka to help ripen the karma. Sani gives the abubava required

for growth.) In other words the influence of Moon(is not Mother a natural

protector?) is temporarily withdrawn so as to enable the AK to learn to stand

on his own legs. It is also a general belief that 1st cycle of sade sathi

causes the exit of grandparents, the 2nd cycle of sade sathi causes the exit of

parents and the 3rd cycle causes the exit of the jataka himself. This is so

because these relationships were considered as umbrellas/protective elements of

the jataka.

 

The dasa and antardasa of Amatyakaraka should be watched carefully as it might

give indications of the troubles likely to be faced by the employer too.

 

Cowrie refers to sea shells and are used in prasna. It is the prakrathic

representatives of yoni indicating the principle of creation. To answer

questions like so-what-next they were considered as the best choice as being

the products of sea they come under the domain of Mata Lakshmi & Sriman

Narayana. We all know that we need the blessings of Mata Lakshmi Sriman

Narayana for sustenance related issues.

 

Over and above this we have chatra yoga formed by placements of 7 planets in 7

houses from the 7th house.

 

We have chatra rasi principle mentioned in prasna.

 

Oh! The mail is becoming lengthier. i shall put a stop. i hope this helps.

 

Best wishes.

 

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Dear Chandrashekhar ji

 

So does chowrie in general can mean any fiber.The fiber from cocunut

shell which is used to make coir is also called chowrie in kerala.

 

Respect

Pradeep

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46> wrote:

> Dear Swee,

> Chowrie means a sort of fan made of fibers tied lengthwise. This was

> used for persons of authorities like Kings. If you have gone to any

> Gurudwaaras( Sikh place of worship), you will find the Granthasaheb

> (Sacred book of Sikhs) being fanned by this device by the devotees.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Swee Chan wrote:

>

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> > Dear Sanjay,

> >

> > Does the word "chowrie" mean an umbrella?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Swee

> >

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> > sanjaychettiar@g... [sanjaychettiar@g...]

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'cowri' - is it not a corruption of 'kawdi' in Hindi?

 

'kawdi' in Hindi means coin/money.

 

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Umbrella KaarakaDear Chandrashekhar jiSo does chowrie in general can mean any

fiber.The fiber from cocunutshell which is used to make coir is also called

chowrie in kerala.RespectPradeepvedic astrology,

Chandrashekhar<chandrashekhar46> wrote:> Dear Swee,> Chowrie means a sort

of fan made of fibers tied lengthwise. This was > used for persons of

authorities like Kings. If you have gone to any > Gurudwaaras( Sikh place of

worship), you will find the Granthasaheb > (Sacred book of Sikhs) being fanned

by this device by the devotees.> Chandrashekhar.> > Swee Chan wrote:> > > Jaya

Jagannatha> >> > Dear Sanjay,> >> > Does the word "chowrie" mean an umbrella?>

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Dear Mr.Vinoo

 

Cowri and Chowrie are 2 different words as we noted from

chandrashekhar jis explanation.

 

Cowri - which was defined as conch shell is also called as kawdi.It

is infact called as Kawdi than cowrie for Prashna matters in kerala.

Thus it can be a corruption as you have said.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

 

 

 

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> 'cowri' - is it not a corruption of 'kawdi' in Hindi?

>

> 'kawdi' in Hindi means coin/money.

>

> Vinoo

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> vijayadas_pradeep [vijayadas_pradeep]

> Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:08

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Quiz: Umbrella Kaaraka

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> Dear Chandrashekhar ji

>

> So does chowrie in general can mean any fiber.The fiber from

cocunut

> shell which is used to make coir is also called chowrie in

kerala.

>

> Respect

> Pradeep

> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> <chandrashekhar46> wrote:

> > Dear Swee,

> > Chowrie means a sort of fan made of fibers tied lengthwise.

This was

> > used for persons of authorities like Kings. If you have gone

to any

> > Gurudwaaras( Sikh place of worship), you will find the

Granthasaheb

> > (Sacred book of Sikhs) being fanned by this device by the

devotees.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > Swee Chan wrote:

> >

> > > Jaya Jagannatha

> > >

> > > Dear Sanjay,

> > >

> > > Does the word "chowrie" mean an umbrella?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Swee

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> > > sanjaychettiar@g... [sanjaychettiar@g...]

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> > > [vedic astrology] Jyotish Quiz: Umbrella Kaaraka

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> > > For some jyotish fun, I would like to know what you think is

> > > the kaaraka (signifier/ruler) for Umbrella. Please give

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