Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 What is going on Praveen Ji Why these judgements? What has happened so drastic as to make comments like the one you have made? best wishes partha On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:13:31 +0530, Praveen Kumar <chunnu2001 wrote: > > Please give your original TOB, not the rectified one only. I have seen > astrologers, failing miserably in tracing even the basic trends of one's > life but rectifying charts, authoring books and producing fanciful theories > misguiding thousands thereby. > > Astrology is very difficult. Before accepting anybody as good astrologer / > Guru etc, give him a few almost correct charts and ask for blind readings. > Judge after that only. > > Praveen Kumar > > > - > Vikram Singhvi > vedic astrology ; > 27, 01, 2005 9:09 PM > [vedic astrology] Devastating event : A Puzzle > > > Namaste All Gurus and fellow list members, > I am a SJC student and a silent > list > member for last 3/4 yrs, participated in WEST COAST activities of SJC in my > limited capacity. I have been in touch with most of our gurus > Sanjayji,Ramdasji, Visti, Freedom, Sarbaniji, lakshmi,Shiv, > Narayanaji,Nitinji etc and once had a chance to meet PVRji also, had been > taking their guidance from time to time. > > Just to let everybody know that there is a major devastating event happened > in my and my wife's life individually and which has jolted whole of our > families.Those who know my history will wonder how god can be so kind/cruel > to somebody But I still have faith in god and won't let it go.If this mail > reaches to Sanjayji he will definitely think what fate this guy has got. My > life is like a roller-coaster. Me, my wife and kid are safe but shaken. This > is the first time I am writing on this forum about myself and seeking help. > I appreciate if you guys solve this puzzle astrologically and tell me what > has happened and what's store in the future. > > I am not questioning astrology and anybody's knowledge but wondering how we > missed > this majot incident in my chart.However looking at the gochar I had some > apprehensions that it can happen. > > The background was building for last 2 weeks and finally it happened on > Tuesday. All the good events of my life have happened on Tuesday, so very > surprized how this thing has happened on Tuesday and whats the course of > future action > > Following is our birthdata, I am attaching our charts for ref > Vikram > DOB 07-APR-1970 > birthtime is 6:11am (corrected by Sanjayji) > 73E40 > 26N40 > Shivi > DOB 15-JUN-1973 > Time 3:10Pm > 73E40 > 26N40 > > This case will be of particular interest to Raghunathaji, who is been pretty > accurate recently. I would request PVRji also if he can spare some time > looking into this what has happened and whats going to happen next. > > Important events of my life in brief > Lost younger brother at the age of 4 > One younger sister > Very good academic career Eng +MBA > JObs at topmost companies of India and US > Married Apr1996 > Lost 1st due to cancer > Married 2nd time Oct 2000 > One son born Nov2002 > Bought a house Jun/Jul2004 > > Thanks & Regards > > Vikram > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > Children International > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > > · Click Here to meet a Girl > And Give Her Hope > > · Click Here to meet a Boy > And Change His Life > > > Learn More > > ________________________________ > Links > > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > > -- V.Partha Sarathy, partvinu.blogspot.com All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him. -----Buddha Plot.no.71 Road No.3 Nagarjuna Hills Hyderabad India-500 082 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Vikram, If the accuracy of predicting a past event is 99 then for a future event it is 1!! If you are Not destined to change it, you will not be forewarned about it! Now that you have spoon fed enough about the event, there would be many sniper rifle shots!! All this proves one thing, that free will has a limited role. Losing faith in God is what? Testing times come to test us. regards viswanadham vedic astrology, "vikram_singhvi" <vikram_singhvi> wrote: > > Praveenji, > My original TOB is 6:15 am, One of the criteria Sanjayji > used to correct it was that I am in service not doing any > business.you can use this TOB if this gives any clue. > > Some of the other fellow list members inquired about the health of > my son. But let me tell that the event is not related with the > health, we all the perfectly fine. > Looking at my chart on gochar basis may give some clue. > > thanks & regards > > Vikram vedic astrology, Praveen Kumar > <chunnu2001@v...> wrote: > > Please give your original TOB, not the rectified one only. I have > seen astrologers, failing miserably in tracing even the basic trends > of one's life but rectifying charts, authoring books and producing > fanciful theories misguiding thousands thereby. > > > > Astrology is very difficult. Before accepting anybody as good > astrologer / Guru etc, give him a few almost correct charts and ask > for blind readings. Judge after that only. > > > > Praveen Kumar > > - > > Vikram Singhvi > > vedic astrology ; > > > 27, 01, 2005 9:09 PM > > [vedic astrology] Devastating event : A Puzzle > > > > > > Namaste All Gurus and fellow list members, > > I am a SJC student and > a silent list > > member for last 3/4 yrs, participated in WEST COAST activities > of SJC in my limited capacity. I have been in touch with most of our > gurus Sanjayji,Ramdasji, Visti, Freedom, Sarbaniji, lakshmi,Shiv, > Narayanaji,Nitinji etc and once had a chance to meet PVRji also, had > been taking their guidance from time to time. > > > > Just to let everybody know that there is a major devastating > event happened in my and my wife's life individually and which has > jolted whole of our families.Those who know my history will wonder > how god can be so kind/cruel to somebody But I still have faith in > god and won't let it go.If this mail reaches to Sanjayji he will > definitely think what fate this guy has got. My life is like a > roller-coaster. Me, my wife and kid are safe but shaken. This is the > first time I am writing on this forum about myself and seeking help. > I appreciate if you guys solve this puzzle astrologically and tell > me what has happened and what's store in the future. > > > > I am not questioning astrology and anybody's knowledge but > wondering how we missed > > this majot incident in my chart.However looking at the gochar I > had some apprehensions that it can happen. > > > > The background was building for last 2 weeks and finally it > happened on Tuesday. All the good events of my life have happened on > Tuesday, so very surprized how this thing has happened on Tuesday > and whats the course of future action > > > > Following is our birthdata, I am attaching our charts for ref > > Vikram > > DOB 07-APR-1970 > > birthtime is 6:11am (corrected by Sanjayji) > > 73E40 > > 26N40 > > Shivi > > DOB 15-JUN-1973 > > Time 3:10Pm > > 73E40 > > 26N40 > > > > This case will be of particular interest to Raghunathaji, who is > been pretty accurate recently. I would request PVRji also if he can > spare some time looking into this what has happened and whats going > to happen next. > > > > Important events of my life in brief > > Lost younger brother at the age of 4 > > One younger sister > > Very good academic career Eng +MBA > > JObs at topmost companies of India and US > > Married Apr1996 > > Lost 1st due to cancer > > Married 2nd time Oct 2000 > > One son born Nov2002 > > Bought a house Jun/Jul2004 > > > > Thanks & Regards > > > > Vikram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Children International > > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > > > · Click Here to meet a Girl > > And Give Her Hope > > > > · Click Here to meet a Boy > > And Change His Life > > > > Learn More > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > ----------- > > Links > > > > > > vedic astrology/ > > > > b.. > > vedic astrology > > > > c.. Terms > of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Om Krishna Guru Namaste Praveen Kumar Ji, I respectfully differ to you in this case. Why are you saying that the time of birth rectified by Sanjay Ji's in this case is not accurate. If I were you, I would atleast check and verify the time of birth before making such comments. Also, have you noticed some thing from your postings. At least 50% are with the following message and no more than that. ===== Before asking a question always give following details: 1) Rasi and degrees of Lagna and the Moon. 2) Source of TOB, that is recorded meticulously, hospital record, rectified etc. 3) Margin of error possible. 4) Some past trends / facts / events, may be other than you want to ask about. You may write about your education, profession, marriage / spouse if married, good / bad periods of past, parents' profession / status, health etc. Praveen Kumar ====== And when I keep a track of your relies and waiting for your replies, I find none, or one sentese saying that, "This will happen on such and such date...". So how do we learn as a studetns from you, if you do not give the astrological reasoning behind your predictions. I know you mentioned that, you do not know how to type. Then we should learn that first as it is a pre-requisite in this internet media Sir, otherwise how can we read your thoughts and learn from there. I have no intension of offending you or insulting you, but I did not like when you made such comments on good Astrologer's such as Sanjay Ji himself did the birth time rectification in this particular Case. I do not want to write any more on this as I have made my point. Now, may I request you to take time and give us your valuable analysis after you have done the birth time rectification in this case on what is the future for this native. Regards Raghunatha Rao --- original message --- Message 48735 Praveen Kumar <chunnu2001@v...> Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:43 pm Re: [vedic astrology] Devastating event : A Puzzle Please give your original TOB, not the rectified one only. I have seen astrologers, failing miserably in tracing even the basic trends of one's life but rectifying charts, authoring books and producing fanciful theories misguiding thousands thereby. Astrology is very difficult. Before accepting anybody as good astrologer / Guru etc, give him a few almost correct charts and ask for blind readings. Judge after that only. Praveen Kumar ===== Before asking a question always give following details: 1) Rasi and degrees of Lagna and the Moon. 2) Source of TOB, that is recorded meticulously, hospital record, rectified etc. 3) Margin of error possible. 4) Some past trends / facts / events, may be other than you want to ask about. You may write about your education, profession, marriage / spouse if married, good / bad periods of past, parents' profession / status, health etc. Yes, problems can be seen very easily if you see the chara dasa (as per Shri K.N.Rao). It was Leo dasa of 10th house with AK & GK. Are you working abroad or far away from your native place ? Be careful. Praveen Kumar ==== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Dear Rao Nimani, Sorry, I deleted your letter by mistake. But, seen it and here is a reply to your objections: 1) I never named anybody, but true, my personal experience is very disappointing. 2) Should a Guru not convince his followers by demonstrating his predictive skills ? 3) Have you tested the said Gurus on blind readings ? 4) You asked me to give my analysis on this puzzle. Should you not ask the same thing to Sanjay Rath ? How many times he is replying to such queries. 5) Now regarding my message for past details in my replies every time. My method of working (and learning) is based on techniques which require correct time, and every chart has to be verified first. 6) Regarding not revealing technicalities in my analysis, I can't argue endlessly with some adamant persons here. In my opinion, they have learnt wrong things (and it is difficult to unlearn all that later) and I try to give better results than those fellow members. Let whatever be your techniques, they should be treated as reliable if and only if you can foresee, at least some basic trends, in advance without the native's having to describe it. Astrology is not something of just listening to the problems and prescribing remedies. 7) The other aim of my being here is to learn by solving the problems practically. I am not reading other posts here except some of the few given by Shri Narasimha Rao. I have no malice to anybody here. I know there are many sincere and honest persons here. Illustrating, I like and respect Narasimha for his good qualities but have sharp differences technically. Thus raising objections must be welcome. Lastly, I have faith in and follow Shri K.N.Rao. But even in cases seen by him, I always try to satisfy myself regarding TOB. In one case of my friend, I have yet not agreed with the Navamsa given by him. So, the matter is technical, primarily. Praveen Kumar - Praveen Kumar vedic astrology 28, 01, 2005 11:13 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Devastating event : A Puzzle Please give your original TOB, not the rectified one only. I have seen astrologers, failing miserably in tracing even the basic trends of one's life but rectifying charts, authoring books and producing fanciful theories misguiding thousands thereby. Astrology is very difficult. Before accepting anybody as good astrologer / Guru etc, give him a few almost correct charts and ask for blind readings. Judge after that only. Praveen Kumar - Vikram Singhvi vedic astrology ; 27, 01, 2005 9:09 PM [vedic astrology] Devastating event : A Puzzle Namaste All Gurus and fellow list members, I am a SJC student and a silent list member for last 3/4 yrs, participated in WEST COAST activities of SJC in my limited capacity. I have been in touch with most of our gurus Sanjayji,Ramdasji, Visti, Freedom, Sarbaniji, lakshmi,Shiv, Narayanaji,Nitinji etc and once had a chance to meet PVRji also, had been taking their guidance from time to time. Just to let everybody know that there is a major devastating event happened in my and my wife's life individually and which has jolted whole of our families.Those who know my history will wonder how god can be so kind/cruel to somebody But I still have faith in god and won't let it go.If this mail reaches to Sanjayji he will definitely think what fate this guy has got. My life is like a roller-coaster. Me, my wife and kid are safe but shaken. This is the first time I am writing on this forum about myself and seeking help. I appreciate if you guys solve this puzzle astrologically and tell me what has happened and what's store in the future. I am not questioning astrology and anybody's knowledge but wondering how we missedthis majot incident in my chart.However looking at the gochar I had some apprehensions that it can happen. The background was building for last 2 weeks and finally it happened on Tuesday. All the good events of my life have happened on Tuesday, so very surprized how this thing has happened on Tuesday and whats the course of future action Following is our birthdata, I am attaching our charts for ref Vikram DOB 07-APR-1970birthtime is 6:11am (corrected by Sanjayji)73E4026N40 Shivi DOB 15-JUN-1973Time 3:10Pm73E4026N40 This case will be of particular interest to Raghunathaji, who is been pretty accurate recently. I would request PVRji also if he can spare some time looking into this what has happened and whats going to happen next. Important events of my life in briefLost younger brother at the age of 4One younger sister Very good academic career Eng +MBAJObs at topmost companies of India and USMarried Apr1996Lost 1st due to cancerMarried 2nd time Oct 2000One son born Nov2002Bought a house Jun/Jul2004 Thanks & Regards Vikram Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Dear All: I too have been observing this kind of malign in this forum and more specifically in Shri K N Rao's . Yesterday there was some criticism for PVRji on the other forum and today this by Praveen. I prefer not to say Ji cause respected is earned by your deeds and not by ur age or knowledge. I would like to challenge Mr. Praveen on what he knows and what is his stature to challenge Sanjayji. I have been observing in Jyotish Group saying mean things indirectly intended to this forum saying it as "Net Astrology". Also there has been claims around about our AK system, the opponent is open for criticism only if he can prove his theory right or our theory wrong with solid backing. Its is very disheartening to see Shri K N Rao, being a moderator and owner of other forum allowing such malign in his group. Also it is shameful to see people challenging KP theory. Its absurd for me to see Shri K N Rao giving silent reticent to all this rather than talking about astrology, he is been talking about who did copying from whom.......like everybody has got their knowledge in legacy. This is divine knowledge and unless you give its due to god your ego will be inflated and you will come up with comments as by Praveen and Pankaj (jyotish group). I request all the members of this forum to concentrate on learning astrology and sharing the knowledge to help enhance the understanding of principles. Hare Rama Krishna, Bharat On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:15:24 -0000, Raghunatha Rao Nemani <raon1008 wrote: > > > Om Krishna Guru > > Namaste Praveen Kumar Ji, > > I respectfully differ to you in this case. Why are you saying that > the time of birth rectified by Sanjay Ji's in this case is not > accurate. If I were you, I would atleast check and verify the time > of birth before making such comments. > > Also, have you noticed some thing from your postings. At least 50% > are with the following message and no more than that. > > ===== > Before asking a question always give following details: > 1) Rasi and degrees of Lagna and the Moon. > 2) Source of TOB, that is recorded meticulously, hospital record, > rectified etc. > 3) Margin of error possible. > 4) Some past trends / facts / events, may be other than you want to > ask about. You may write about your education, profession, marriage / > spouse if married, good / bad periods of past, parents' profession / > status, health etc. > > Praveen Kumar > ====== > > And when I keep a track of your relies and waiting for your replies, > I find none, or one sentese saying that, "This will happen on such > and such date...". So how do we learn as a studetns from you, if you > do not give the astrological reasoning behind your predictions. I > know you mentioned that, you do not know how to type. Then we should > learn that first as it is a pre-requisite in this internet media Sir, > otherwise how can we read your thoughts and learn from there. > > I have no intension of offending you or insulting you, but I did not > like when you made such comments on good Astrologer's such as Sanjay > Ji himself did the birth time rectification in this particular Case. > I do not want to write any more on this as I have made my point. > > Now, may I request you to take time and give us your valuable > analysis after you have done the birth time rectification in this > case on what is the future for this native. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > --- original message --- > > Message 48735 > > Praveen Kumar <chunnu2001@v...> > Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:43 pm > Re: [vedic astrology] Devastating event : A Puzzle > > Please give your original TOB, not the rectified one only. I have > seen astrologers, failing miserably in tracing even the basic trends > of one's life but rectifying charts, authoring books and producing > fanciful theories misguiding thousands thereby. > > Astrology is very difficult. Before accepting anybody as good > astrologer / Guru etc, give him a few almost correct charts and ask > for blind readings. Judge after that only. > > Praveen Kumar > > ===== > Before asking a question always give following details: > 1) Rasi and degrees of Lagna and the Moon. > 2) Source of TOB, that is recorded meticulously, hospital record, > rectified etc. > 3) Margin of error possible. > 4) Some past trends / facts / events, may be other than you want to > ask about. You may write about your education, profession, marriage / > spouse if married, good / bad periods of past, parents' profession / > status, health etc. > > Yes, problems can be seen very easily if you see the chara dasa (as > per Shri K.N.Rao). It was Leo dasa of 10th house with AK & GK. Are > you working abroad or far away from your native place ? Be careful. > > Praveen Kumar > > ==== > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Hi All, Personally, I do not want to comment on the ongoing differences. However, since, this should ideally be an intellectual and academic group, I really pray we dont have any "personal" or "personality" based debates like this one, in future. May the Lord bless us with wisdom. Thanks Sesha. --- Praveen Kumar <chunnu2001 wrote: > Dear Rao Nimani, > Sorry, I deleted your letter by mistake. But, seen > it and here is a reply to your objections: > 1) I never named anybody, but true, my personal > experience is very disappointing. > 2) Should a Guru not convince his followers by > demonstrating his predictive skills ? > 3) Have you tested the said Gurus on blind readings > ? > 4) You asked me to give my analysis on this puzzle. > Should you not ask the same thing to Sanjay Rath ? > How many times he is replying to such queries. > 5) Now regarding my message for past details in my > replies every time. My method of working (and > learning) is based on techniques which require > correct time, and every chart has to be verified > first. > 6) Regarding not revealing technicalities in my > analysis, I can't argue endlessly with some adamant > persons here. In my opinion, they have learnt wrong > things (and it is difficult to unlearn all that > later) and I try to give better results than those > fellow members. Let whatever be your techniques, > they should be treated as reliable if and only if > you can foresee, at least some basic trends, in > advance without the native's having to describe it. > Astrology is not something of just listening to the > problems and prescribing remedies. > 7) The other aim of my being here is to learn by > solving the problems practically. I am not reading > other posts here except some of the few given by > Shri Narasimha Rao. > > I have no malice to anybody here. I know there are > many sincere and honest persons here. Illustrating, > I like and respect Narasimha for his good qualities > but have sharp differences technically. Thus raising > objections must be welcome. > Lastly, I have faith in and follow Shri K.N.Rao. But > even in cases seen by him, I always try to satisfy > myself regarding TOB. In one case of my friend, I > have yet not agreed with the Navamsa given by him. > So, the matter is technical, primarily. > > > Praveen Kumar > > - > Praveen Kumar > vedic astrology > 28, 01, 2005 11:13 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Devastating event : A > Puzzle > > > Please give your original TOB, not the rectified one > only. I have seen astrologers, failing miserably in > tracing even the basic trends of one's life but > rectifying charts, authoring books and producing > fanciful theories misguiding thousands thereby. > > Astrology is very difficult. Before accepting > anybody as good astrologer / Guru etc, give him a > few almost correct charts and ask for blind > readings. Judge after that only. > > Praveen Kumar > - > Vikram Singhvi > vedic astrology ; > > 27, 01, 2005 9:09 PM > [vedic astrology] Devastating event : A > Puzzle > > > Namaste All Gurus and fellow list members, > I am a > SJC student and a silent list > member for last 3/4 yrs, participated in WEST > COAST activities of SJC in my limited capacity. I > have been in touch with most of our gurus > Sanjayji,Ramdasji, Visti, Freedom, Sarbaniji, > lakshmi,Shiv, Narayanaji,Nitinji etc and once had a > chance to meet PVRji also, had been taking their > guidance from time to time. > > Just to let everybody know that there is a major > devastating event happened in my and my wife's life > individually and which has jolted whole of our > families.Those who know my history will wonder how > god can be so kind/cruel to somebody But I still > have faith in god and won't let it go.If this mail > reaches to Sanjayji he will definitely think what > fate this guy has got. My life is like a > roller-coaster. Me, my wife and kid are safe but > shaken. This is the first time I am writing on this > forum about myself and seeking help. I appreciate if > you guys solve this puzzle astrologically and tell > me what has happened and what's store in the > future. > > I am not questioning astrology and anybody's > knowledge but wondering how we missed > this majot incident in my chart.However looking at > the gochar I had some apprehensions that it can > happen. > > The background was building for last 2 weeks and > finally it happened on Tuesday. All the good events > of my life have happened on Tuesday, so very > surprized how this thing has happened on Tuesday and > whats the course of future action > > Following is our birthdata, I am attaching our > charts for ref > Vikram > DOB 07-APR-1970 > birthtime is 6:11am (corrected by Sanjayji) > 73E40 > 26N40 > Shivi > DOB 15-JUN-1973 > Time 3:10Pm > 73E40 > 26N40 > > This case will be of particular interest to > Raghunathaji, who is been pretty accurate recently. > I would request PVRji also if he can spare some time > looking into this what has happened and whats going > to happen next. > > Important events of my life in brief > Lost younger brother at the age of 4 > One younger sister > Very good academic career Eng +MBA > JObs at topmost companies of India and US > Married Apr1996 > Lost 1st due to cancer > Married 2nd time Oct 2000 > One son born Nov2002 > Bought a house Jun/Jul2004 > > Thanks & Regards > > Vikram > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Dear Raoji: It is really stupid of Praveen to comment like this rather he could have for reasons for rectification. I really feel its a matter of ego than anything else. I feel he and K N Rao circle is jealous of Sanjayji cause of the fame, money and knowledge he has generated at such a young age. But rather than understanding why Sanjayji has been successful they are trying to pull him down. We have very sound principles at SJC and we are working in a good direction to spread the knowledge of astrology. I really appreciate the Guru-Shisya relationship and openness we have in sharing the secrets on the basis of trust. I like how we dedicate our knowledge to Lord Krishna and stay away from having ego rising in us. The amount of pdf files we have help us learn a lot without even having to invest in expensive books. I hope better sense prevails in the astrology circle and we do our study peacefully. Hare Rama Krishna Bharat On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:15:24 -0000, Raghunatha Rao Nemani <raon1008 wrote: > > > Om Krishna Guru > > Namaste Praveen Kumar Ji, > > I respectfully differ to you in this case. Why are you saying that > the time of birth rectified by Sanjay Ji's in this case is not > accurate. If I were you, I would atleast check and verify the time > of birth before making such comments. > > Also, have you noticed some thing from your postings. At least 50% > are with the following message and no more than that. > > ===== > Before asking a question always give following details: > 1) Rasi and degrees of Lagna and the Moon. > 2) Source of TOB, that is recorded meticulously, hospital record, > rectified etc. > 3) Margin of error possible. > 4) Some past trends / facts / events, may be other than you want to > ask about. You may write about your education, profession, marriage / > spouse if married, good / bad periods of past, parents' profession / > status, health etc. > > Praveen Kumar > ====== > > And when I keep a track of your relies and waiting for your replies, > I find none, or one sentese saying that, "This will happen on such > and such date...". So how do we learn as a studetns from you, if you > do not give the astrological reasoning behind your predictions. I > know you mentioned that, you do not know how to type. Then we should > learn that first as it is a pre-requisite in this internet media Sir, > otherwise how can we read your thoughts and learn from there. > > I have no intension of offending you or insulting you, but I did not > like when you made such comments on good Astrologer's such as Sanjay > Ji himself did the birth time rectification in this particular Case. > I do not want to write any more on this as I have made my point. > > Now, may I request you to take time and give us your valuable > analysis after you have done the birth time rectification in this > case on what is the future for this native. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > --- original message --- > > Message 48735 > > Praveen Kumar <chunnu2001@v...> > Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:43 pm > Re: [vedic astrology] Devastating event : A Puzzle > > Please give your original TOB, not the rectified one only. I have > seen astrologers, failing miserably in tracing even the basic trends > of one's life but rectifying charts, authoring books and producing > fanciful theories misguiding thousands thereby. > > Astrology is very difficult. Before accepting anybody as good > astrologer / Guru etc, give him a few almost correct charts and ask > for blind readings. Judge after that only. > > Praveen Kumar > > ===== > Before asking a question always give following details: > 1) Rasi and degrees of Lagna and the Moon. > 2) Source of TOB, that is recorded meticulously, hospital record, > rectified etc. > 3) Margin of error possible. > 4) Some past trends / facts / events, may be other than you want to > ask about. You may write about your education, profession, marriage / > spouse if married, good / bad periods of past, parents' profession / > status, health etc. > > Yes, problems can be seen very easily if you see the chara dasa (as > per Shri K.N.Rao). It was Leo dasa of 10th house with AK & GK. Are > you working abroad or far away from your native place ? Be careful. > > Praveen Kumar > > ==== > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Om Krishna Guru Dear Praveen, Thanks for the note and like you respect your methods/Guru of learning, I do mine too. So let us not talk about it any more, as my mission is very simple,I just want to learn, and share my understanding with others. Having said that, let us get back to our learning and sharing of Jyotish and not to waste our time and space in this forum. Regards Raghunatha Rao --- original message --- Message 48776 Praveen Kumar <chunnu2001@v...> Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:38 pm Fw: [vedic astrology] Devastating event : A Puzzle Dear Rao Nimani, Sorry, I deleted your letter by mistake. But, seen it and here is a reply to your objections: 1) I never named anybody, but true, my personal experience is very disappointing. 2) Should a Guru not convince his followers by demonstrating his predictive skills ? 3) Have you tested the said Gurus on blind readings ? 4) You asked me to give my analysis on this puzzle. Should you not ask the same thing to Sanjay Rath ? How many times he is replying to such queries. 5) Now regarding my message for past details in my replies every time. My method of working (and learning) is based on techniques which require correct time, and every chart has to be verified first. 6) Regarding not revealing technicalities in my analysis, I can't argue endlessly with some adamant persons here. In my opinion, they have learnt wrong things (and it is difficult to unlearn all that later) and I try to give better results than those fellow members. Let whatever be your techniques, they should be treated as reliable if and only if you can foresee, at least some basic trends, in advance without the native's having to describe it. Astrology is not something of just listening to the problems and prescribing remedies. 7) The other aim of my being here is to learn by solving the problems practically. I am not reading other posts here except some of the few given by Shri Narasimha Rao. I have no malice to anybody here. I know there are many sincere and honest persons here. Illustrating, I like and respect Narasimha for his good qualities but have sharp differences technically. Thus raising objections must be welcome. Lastly, I have faith in and follow Shri K.N.Rao. But even in cases seen by him, I always try to satisfy myself regarding TOB. In one case of my friend, I have yet not agreed with the Navamsa given by him. So, the matter is technical, primarily. Praveen Kumar - Praveen Kumar vedic astrology 28, 01, 2005 11:13 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Devastating event : A Puzzle Please give your original TOB, not the rectified one only. I have seen astrologers, failing miserably in tracing even the basic trends of one's life but rectifying charts, authoring books and producing fanciful theories misguiding thousands thereby. Astrology is very difficult. Before accepting anybody as good astrologer / Guru etc, give him a few almost correct charts and ask for blind readings. Judge after that only. Praveen Kumar - Vikram Singhvi vedic astrology ; 27, 01, 2005 9:09 PM [vedic astrology] Devastating event : A Puzzle Namaste All Gurus and fellow list members, I am a SJC student and a silent list member for last 3/4 yrs, participated in WEST COAST activities of SJC in my limited capacity. I have been in touch with most of our gurus Sanjayji,Ramdasji, Visti, Freedom, Sarbaniji, lakshmi,Shiv, Narayanaji,Nitinji etc and once had a chance to meet PVRji also, had been taking their guidance from time to time. Just to let everybody know that there is a major devastating event happened in my and my wife's life individually and which has jolted whole of our families.Those who know my history will wonder how god can be so kind/cruel to somebody But I still have faith in god and won't let it go.If this mail reaches to Sanjayji he will definitely think what fate this guy has got. My life is like a roller-coaster. Me, my wife and kid are safe but shaken. This is the first time I am writing on this forum about myself and seeking help. I appreciate if you guys solve this puzzle astrologically and tell me what has happened and what's store in the future. I am not questioning astrology and anybody's knowledge but wondering how we missed this majot incident in my chart.However looking at the gochar I had some apprehensions that it can happen. The background was building for last 2 weeks and finally it happened on Tuesday. All the good events of my life have happened on Tuesday, so very surprized how this thing has happened on Tuesday and whats the course of future action Following is our birthdata, I am attaching our charts for ref Vikram DOB 07-APR-1970 birthtime is 6:11am (corrected by Sanjayji) 73E40 26N40 Shivi DOB 15-JUN-1973 Time 3:10Pm 73E40 26N40 This case will be of particular interest to Raghunathaji, who is been pretty accurate recently. I would request PVRji also if he can spare some time looking into this what has happened and whats going to happen next. Important events of my life in brief Lost younger brother at the age of 4 One younger sister Very good academic career Eng +MBA JObs at topmost companies of India and US Married Apr1996 Lost 1st due to cancer Married 2nd time Oct 2000 One son born Nov2002 Bought a house Jun/Jul2004 Thanks & Regards Vikram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Namaste all, I think we got diverted from the main issue.My mentioning Sanjayji name in my post was not to dishonor somebody's feelings or belief but looks like we ran into that issue and I am still waiting for response for my puzzle/query.I would request my fellow list members if they can attemp on this issue, it will be really great. If anybody needs some leads I can provide that. regards Vikram vedic astrology, "Raghunatha Rao Nemani" <raon1008> wrote: > > Om Krishna Guru > > Dear Praveen, > > Thanks for the note and like you respect your methods/Guru of > learning, I do mine too. So let us not talk about it any more, > as my mission is very simple,I just want to learn, and share > my understanding with others. > > Having said that, let us get back to our learning and sharing > of Jyotish and not to waste our time and space in this forum. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > --- original message --- > Message 48776 > > Praveen Kumar <chunnu2001@v...> > Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:38 pm > Fw: [vedic astrology] Devastating event : A Puzzle > > Dear Rao Nimani, > Sorry, I deleted your letter by mistake. But, seen it and here is a > reply to your objections: > 1) I never named anybody, but true, my personal experience is very > disappointing. > 2) Should a Guru not convince his followers by demonstrating his > predictive skills ? > 3) Have you tested the said Gurus on blind readings ? > 4) You asked me to give my analysis on this puzzle. Should you not > ask the same thing to Sanjay Rath ? How many times he is replying to > such queries. > 5) Now regarding my message for past details in my replies every > time. My method of working (and learning) is based on techniques > which require correct time, and every chart has to be verified first. > 6) Regarding not revealing technicalities in my analysis, I can't > argue endlessly with some adamant persons here. In my opinion, they > have learnt wrong things (and it is difficult to unlearn all that > later) and I try to give better results than those fellow members. > Let whatever be your techniques, they should be treated as reliable > if and only if you can foresee, at least some basic trends, in > advance without the native's having to describe it. Astrology is not > something of just listening to the problems and prescribing remedies. > 7) The other aim of my being here is to learn by solving the problems > practically. I am not reading other posts here except some of the few > given by Shri Narasimha Rao. > > I have no malice to anybody here. I know there are many sincere and > honest persons here. Illustrating, I like and respect Narasimha for > his good qualities but have sharp differences technically. Thus > raising objections must be welcome. > Lastly, I have faith in and follow Shri K.N.Rao. But even in cases > seen by him, I always try to satisfy myself regarding TOB. In one > case of my friend, I have yet not agreed with the Navamsa given by > him. So, the matter is technical, primarily. > > > Praveen Kumar > > - > Praveen Kumar > vedic astrology > 28, 01, 2005 11:13 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Devastating event : A Puzzle > > > Please give your original TOB, not the rectified one only. I have > seen astrologers, failing miserably in tracing even the basic trends > of one's life but rectifying charts, authoring books and producing > fanciful theories misguiding thousands thereby. > > Astrology is very difficult. Before accepting anybody as good > astrologer / Guru etc, give him a few almost correct charts and ask > for blind readings. Judge after that only. > > Praveen Kumar > - > Vikram Singhvi > vedic astrology ; > 27, 01, 2005 9:09 PM > [vedic astrology] Devastating event : A Puzzle > > > Namaste All Gurus and fellow list members, > I am a SJC student and a > silent list > member for last 3/4 yrs, participated in WEST COAST activities of SJC > in my limited capacity. I have been in touch with most of our gurus > Sanjayji,Ramdasji, Visti, Freedom, Sarbaniji, lakshmi,Shiv, > Narayanaji,Nitinji etc and once had a chance to meet PVRji also, had > been taking their guidance from time to time. > > Just to let everybody know that there is a major devastating event > happened in my and my wife's life individually and which has jolted > whole of our families.Those who know my history will wonder how god > can be so kind/cruel to somebody But I still have faith in god and > won't let it go.If this mail reaches to Sanjayji he will definitely > think what fate this guy has got. My life is like a roller- coaster. > Me, my wife and kid are safe but shaken. This is the first time I am > writing on this forum about myself and seeking help. I appreciate if > you guys solve this puzzle astrologically and tell me what has > happened and what's store in the future. > > I am not questioning astrology and anybody's knowledge but wondering > how we missed > this majot incident in my chart.However looking at the gochar I had > some apprehensions that it can happen. > > The background was building for last 2 weeks and finally it happened > on Tuesday. All the good events of my life have happened on Tuesday, > so very surprized how this thing has happened on Tuesday and whats > the course of future action > > Following is our birthdata, I am attaching our charts for ref > Vikram > DOB 07-APR-1970 > birthtime is 6:11am (corrected by Sanjayji) > 73E40 > 26N40 > Shivi > DOB 15-JUN-1973 > Time 3:10Pm > 73E40 > 26N40 > > This case will be of particular interest to Raghunathaji, who is been > pretty accurate recently. I would request PVRji also if he can spare > some time looking into this what has happened and whats going to > happen next. > > Important events of my life in brief > Lost younger brother at the age of 4 > One younger sister > Very good academic career Eng +MBA > JObs at topmost companies of India and US > Married Apr1996 > Lost 1st due to cancer > Married 2nd time Oct 2000 > One son born Nov2002 > Bought a house Jun/Jul2004 > > Thanks & Regards > > Vikram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Hi Vikram ji, In your chart, could this be related to loans or money ? If not, one lead I would like to know is if the event happening to you and the event that happened to your wife on the same day is in anyway linked ? If not, what was the motivation behind mentioning it in the same event ? Thanks Sesha --- vikram_singhvi <vikram_singhvi wrote: > > Namaste all, > I think we got diverted from the main > issue.My > mentioning Sanjayji name in my post was not to > dishonor somebody's > feelings or belief but looks like we ran into that > issue and I am > still waiting for response for my puzzle/query.I > would request my > fellow list members if they can attemp on this > issue, it will be > really great. If anybody needs some leads I can > provide that. > > regards > > Vikram > > > vedic astrology, "Raghunatha > Rao Nemani" > <raon1008> wrote: > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > Dear Praveen, > > > > Thanks for the note and like you respect your > methods/Guru of > > learning, I do mine too. So let us not talk about > it any more, > > as my mission is very simple,I just want to learn, > and share > > my understanding with others. > > > > Having said that, let us get back to our learning > and sharing > > of Jyotish and not to waste our time and space in > this forum. > > > > Regards > > Raghunatha Rao > > > > --- original message --- > > Message 48776 > > > > Praveen Kumar <chunnu2001@v...> > > Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:38 pm > > Fw: [vedic astrology] Devastating event > : A Puzzle > > > > Dear Rao Nimani, > > Sorry, I deleted your letter by mistake. But, seen > it and here is > a > > reply to your objections: > > 1) I never named anybody, but true, my personal > experience is very > > disappointing. > > 2) Should a Guru not convince his followers by > demonstrating his > > predictive skills ? > > 3) Have you tested the said Gurus on blind > readings ? > > 4) You asked me to give my analysis on this > puzzle. Should you not > > ask the same thing to Sanjay Rath ? How many times > he is replying > to > > such queries. > > 5) Now regarding my message for past details in my > replies every > > time. My method of working (and learning) is based > on techniques > > which require correct time, and every chart has to > be verified > first. > > 6) Regarding not revealing technicalities in my > analysis, I can't > > argue endlessly with some adamant persons here. In > my opinion, > they > > have learnt wrong things (and it is difficult to > unlearn all that > > later) and I try to give better results than those > fellow members. > > Let whatever be your techniques, they should be > treated as > reliable > > if and only if you can foresee, at least some > basic trends, in > > advance without the native's having to describe > it. Astrology is > not > > something of just listening to the problems and > prescribing > remedies. > > 7) The other aim of my being here is to learn by > solving the > problems > > practically. I am not reading other posts here > except some of the > few > > given by Shri Narasimha Rao. > > > > I have no malice to anybody here. I know there are > many sincere > and > > honest persons here. Illustrating, I like and > respect Narasimha > for > > his good qualities but have sharp differences > technically. Thus > > raising objections must be welcome. > > Lastly, I have faith in and follow Shri K.N.Rao. > But even in cases > > seen by him, I always try to satisfy myself > regarding TOB. In one > > case of my friend, I have yet not agreed with the > Navamsa given by > > him. So, the matter is technical, primarily. > > > > > > Praveen Kumar > > > > - > > Praveen Kumar > > vedic astrology > > 28, 01, 2005 11:13 AM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Devastating event : > A Puzzle > > > > > > Please give your original TOB, not the rectified > one only. I have > > seen astrologers, failing miserably in tracing > even the basic > trends > > of one's life but rectifying charts, authoring > books and producing > > fanciful theories misguiding thousands thereby. > > > > Astrology is very difficult. Before accepting > anybody as good > > astrologer / Guru etc, give him a few almost > correct charts and > ask > > for blind readings. Judge after that only. > > > > Praveen Kumar > > - > > Vikram Singhvi > > vedic astrology ; > > > 27, 01, 2005 9:09 PM > > [vedic astrology] Devastating event : A > Puzzle > > > > > > Namaste All Gurus and fellow list members, > > I am a > SJC student and a > > silent list > > member for last 3/4 yrs, participated in WEST > COAST activities of > SJC > > in my limited capacity. I have been in touch with > most of our > gurus > > Sanjayji,Ramdasji, Visti, Freedom, Sarbaniji, > lakshmi,Shiv, > > Narayanaji,Nitinji etc and once had a chance to > meet PVRji also, > had > > been taking their guidance from time to time. > > > > Just to let everybody know that there is a major > devastating event > > happened in my and my wife's life individually and > which has > jolted > > whole of our families.Those who know my history > will wonder how > god > > can be so kind/cruel to somebody But I still have > faith in god and > > won't let it go.If this mail reaches to Sanjayji > he will > definitely > > think what fate this guy has got. My life is like > a roller- > coaster. > > Me, my wife and kid are safe but shaken. This is > the first time I > am > > writing on this forum about myself and seeking > help. I appreciate > if > > you guys solve this puzzle astrologically and tell > me what has > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Namaste Seshaji, This event has happened to me and my wife individually in a time span of 1 hr thats why I linked it. This is exactly the same type of event happened on both of us on the same day, thats why being a student of astrology I got curious to know whether our individual charts show the happening of this event. Being a husband and wife any event happening to one person affects the other but it happened to both of them individually. I appreciate you attempting this event puzzle and as you asked yes, this will eventually lead to money matters. thanks Vikram vedic astrology, Sesha Mudumbi <mseshas> wrote: > Hi Vikram ji, > > In your chart, could this be related to loans or > money ? If not, one lead I would like to know is if > the event happening to you and the event that happened > to your wife on the same day is in anyway linked ? > > If not, what was the motivation behind mentioning it > in the same event ? > > Thanks > Sesha > > > --- vikram_singhvi <vikram_singhvi> wrote: > > > > > Namaste all, > > I think we got diverted from the main > > issue.My > > mentioning Sanjayji name in my post was not to > > dishonor somebody's > > feelings or belief but looks like we ran into that > > issue and I am > > still waiting for response for my puzzle/query.I > > would request my > > fellow list members if they can attemp on this > > issue, it will be > > really great. If anybody needs some leads I can > > provide that. > > > > regards > > > > Vikram > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Raghunatha > > Rao Nemani" > > <raon1008> wrote: > > > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > > > Dear Praveen, > > > > > > Thanks for the note and like you respect your > > methods/Guru of > > > learning, I do mine too. So let us not talk about > > it any more, > > > as my mission is very simple,I just want to learn, > > and share > > > my understanding with others. > > > > > > Having said that, let us get back to our learning > > and sharing > > > of Jyotish and not to waste our time and space in > > this forum. > > > > > > Regards > > > Raghunatha Rao > > > > > > --- original message --- > > > Message 48776 > > > > > > Praveen Kumar <chunnu2001@v...> > > > Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:38 pm > > > Fw: [vedic astrology] Devastating event > > : A Puzzle > > > > > > Dear Rao Nimani, > > > Sorry, I deleted your letter by mistake. But, seen > > it and here is > > a > > > reply to your objections: > > > 1) I never named anybody, but true, my personal > > experience is very > > > disappointing. > > > 2) Should a Guru not convince his followers by > > demonstrating his > > > predictive skills ? > > > 3) Have you tested the said Gurus on blind > > readings ? > > > 4) You asked me to give my analysis on this > > puzzle. Should you not > > > ask the same thing to Sanjay Rath ? How many times > > he is replying > > to > > > such queries. > > > 5) Now regarding my message for past details in my > > replies every > > > time. My method of working (and learning) is based > > on techniques > > > which require correct time, and every chart has to > > be verified > > first. > > > 6) Regarding not revealing technicalities in my > > analysis, I can't > > > argue endlessly with some adamant persons here. In > > my opinion, > > they > > > have learnt wrong things (and it is difficult to > > unlearn all that > > > later) and I try to give better results than those > > fellow members. > > > Let whatever be your techniques, they should be > > treated as > > reliable > > > if and only if you can foresee, at least some > > basic trends, in > > > advance without the native's having to describe > > it. Astrology is > > not > > > something of just listening to the problems and > > prescribing > > remedies. > > > 7) The other aim of my being here is to learn by > > solving the > > problems > > > practically. I am not reading other posts here > > except some of the > > few > > > given by Shri Narasimha Rao. > > > > > > I have no malice to anybody here. I know there are > > many sincere > > and > > > honest persons here. Illustrating, I like and > > respect Narasimha > > for > > > his good qualities but have sharp differences > > technically. Thus > > > raising objections must be welcome. > > > Lastly, I have faith in and follow Shri K.N.Rao. > > But even in cases > > > seen by him, I always try to satisfy myself > > regarding TOB. In one > > > case of my friend, I have yet not agreed with the > > Navamsa given by > > > him. So, the matter is technical, primarily. > > > > > > > > > Praveen Kumar > > > > > > - > > > Praveen Kumar > > > vedic astrology > > > 28, 01, 2005 11:13 AM > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Devastating event : > > A Puzzle > > > > > > > > > Please give your original TOB, not the rectified > > one only. I have > > > seen astrologers, failing miserably in tracing > > even the basic > > trends > > > of one's life but rectifying charts, authoring > > books and producing > > > fanciful theories misguiding thousands thereby. > > > > > > Astrology is very difficult. Before accepting > > anybody as good > > > astrologer / Guru etc, give him a few almost > > correct charts and > > ask > > > for blind readings. Judge after that only. > > > > > > Praveen Kumar > > > - > > > Vikram Singhvi > > > vedic astrology ; > > > > > 27, 01, 2005 9:09 PM > > > [vedic astrology] Devastating event : A > > Puzzle > > > > > > > > > Namaste All Gurus and fellow list members, > > > I am a > > SJC student and a > > > silent list > > > member for last 3/4 yrs, participated in WEST > > COAST activities of > > SJC > > > in my limited capacity. I have been in touch with > > most of our > > gurus > > > Sanjayji,Ramdasji, Visti, Freedom, Sarbaniji, > > lakshmi,Shiv, > > > Narayanaji,Nitinji etc and once had a chance to > > meet PVRji also, > > had > > > been taking their guidance from time to time. > > > > > > Just to let everybody know that there is a major > > devastating event > > > happened in my and my wife's life individually and > > which has > > jolted > > > whole of our families.Those who know my history > > will wonder how > > god > > > can be so kind/cruel to somebody But I still have > > faith in god and > > > won't let it go.If this mail reaches to Sanjayji > > he will > > definitely > > > think what fate this guy has got. My life is like > > a roller- > > coaster. > > > Me, my wife and kid are safe but shaken. This is > > the first time I > > am > > > writing on this forum about myself and seeking > > help. I appreciate > > if > > > you guys solve this puzzle astrologically and tell > > me what has > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Namaste Vikram ji, I looked at both your charts, and used a variety of techniques at my disposal. I see many (90%) dashas and schemes, including gochar and annual tithi pravesha indicating the 6-12 axis. Unfortunately, I am unable to zoom in any one thing conclusively. I do suspect two-three events. I will give explanations, if you can confirm it is one of the following. If it is not any of these, I do not have the knowledge and abilities at this point to pinpoint what it is, and will wait for someone else to identify it, and explain how it happened. 1. Losing a job in the US. 2. Losing status as an immigrant in the US. Respectfully, Sesha. --- vikram_singhvi <vikram_singhvi wrote: > > Namaste Seshaji, > This event has happened to me and > my wife > individually in a time span of 1 hr thats why I > linked it. This is > exactly the same type of event happened on both of > us on the same > day, thats why being a student of astrology I got > curious to know > whether our individual charts show the happening of > this event. > Being a husband and wife any event happening to one > person affects > the other but it happened to both of them > individually. > I appreciate you attempting this event puzzle and as > you asked yes, > this will eventually lead to money matters. > > thanks > > Vikram > > vedic astrology, Sesha > Mudumbi <mseshas> > wrote: > > Hi Vikram ji, > > > > In your chart, could this be related to loans or > > money ? If not, one lead I would like to know is > if > > the event happening to you and the event that > happened > > to your wife on the same day is in anyway linked ? > > > > If not, what was the motivation behind mentioning > it > > in the same event ? > > > > Thanks > > Sesha > > > > > > --- vikram_singhvi <vikram_singhvi> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > I think we got diverted from the > main > > > issue.My > > > mentioning Sanjayji name in my post was not to > > > dishonor somebody's > > > feelings or belief but looks like we ran into > that > > > issue and I am > > > still waiting for response for my puzzle/query.I > > > would request my > > > fellow list members if they can attemp on this > > > issue, it will be > > > really great. If anybody needs some leads I can > > > provide that. > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Vikram > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > "Raghunatha > > > Rao Nemani" > > > <raon1008> wrote: > > > > > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > > > > > Dear Praveen, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the note and like you respect your > > > methods/Guru of > > > > learning, I do mine too. So let us not talk > about > > > it any more, > > > > as my mission is very simple,I just want to > learn, > > > and share > > > > my understanding with others. > > > > > > > > Having said that, let us get back to our > learning > > > and sharing > > > > of Jyotish and not to waste our time and space > in > > > this forum. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Raghunatha Rao > > > > > > > > --- original message --- > > > > Message 48776 > > > > > > > > Praveen Kumar <chunnu2001@v...> > > > > Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:38 pm > > > > Fw: [vedic astrology] Devastating > event > > > : A Puzzle > > > > > > > > Dear Rao Nimani, > > > > Sorry, I deleted your letter by mistake. But, > seen > > > it and here is > > > a > > > > reply to your objections: > > > > 1) I never named anybody, but true, my > personal > > > experience is very > > > > disappointing. > > > > 2) Should a Guru not convince his followers by > > > demonstrating his > > > > predictive skills ? > > > > 3) Have you tested the said Gurus on blind > > > readings ? > > > > 4) You asked me to give my analysis on this > > > puzzle. Should you not > > > > ask the same thing to Sanjay Rath ? How many > times > > > he is replying > > > to > > > > such queries. > > > > 5) Now regarding my message for past details > in my > > > replies every > > > > time. My method of working (and learning) is > based > > > on techniques > > > > which require correct time, and every chart > has to > > > be verified > > > first. > > > > 6) Regarding not revealing technicalities in > my > > > analysis, I can't > > > > argue endlessly with some adamant persons > here. In > > > my opinion, > > > they > > > > have learnt wrong things (and it is difficult > to > > > unlearn all that > > > > later) and I try to give better results than > those > > > fellow members. > > > > Let whatever be your techniques, they should > be > > > treated as > > > reliable > > > > if and only if you can foresee, at least some > > > basic trends, in > > > > advance without the native's having to > describe > > > it. Astrology is > > > not > > > > something of just listening to the problems > and > > > prescribing > > > remedies. > > > > 7) The other aim of my being here is to learn > by > > > solving the > > > problems > > > > practically. I am not reading other posts here > > > except some of the > > > few > > > > given by Shri Narasimha Rao. > > > > > > > > I have no malice to anybody here. I know there > are > > > many sincere > > > and > > > > honest persons here. Illustrating, I like and > > > respect Narasimha > > > for > > > > his good qualities but have sharp differences > > > technically. Thus > > > > raising objections must be welcome. > > > > Lastly, I have faith in and follow Shri > K.N.Rao. > > > But even in cases > > > > seen by him, I always try to satisfy myself > > > regarding TOB. In one > > > > case of my friend, I have yet not agreed with > the > > > Navamsa given by > > > > him. So, the matter is technical, primarily. > > > > > > > > > > > > Praveen Kumar > > > > > > > > - > > > > Praveen Kumar > > > > vedic astrology > > > > 28, 01, 2005 11:13 AM > === message truncated === The all-new My - What will yours do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Om Krishna Guru Namaste Sesha Garu, Congratulations on your accurate prdictions too. Can you please given your astrological analysis on both of your points please. So that I can understand and learn from your analysis. 1. Losing a job in the US. 2. Losing status as an immigrant in the US. Thanks for your time in advance. Regards Raghunatha Rao vedic astrology, Sesha Mudumbi <mseshas> wrote: Sesha Mudumbi <mseshas> Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:28 am Re: [vedic astrology] Re:Devastating event : A Puzzle Namaste Vikram ji, I looked at both your charts, and used a variety of techniques at my disposal. I see many (90%) dashas and schemes, including gochar and annual tithi pravesha indicating the 6-12 axis. Unfortunately, I am unable to zoom in any one thing conclusively. I do suspect two-three events. I will give explanations, if you can confirm it is one of the following. If it is not any of these, I do not have the knowledge and abilities at this point to pinpoint what it is, and will wait for someone else to identify it, and explain how it happened. 1. Losing a job in the US. 2. Losing status as an immigrant in the US. Respectfully, Sesha. > --- vikram_singhvi <vikram_singhvi> wrote: > > > > > Namaste Seshaji, > > This event has happened to me and > > my wife > > individually in a time span of 1 hr thats why I > > linked it. This is > > exactly the same type of event happened on both of > > us on the same > > day, thats why being a student of astrology I got > > curious to know > > whether our individual charts show the happening of > > this event. > > Being a husband and wife any event happening to one > > person affects > > the other but it happened to both of them > > individually. > > I appreciate you attempting this event puzzle and as > > you asked yes, > > this will eventually lead to money matters. > > > > thanks > > > > Vikram > > > > vedic astrology, Sesha > > Mudumbi <mseshas> > > wrote: > > > Hi Vikram ji, > > > > > > In your chart, could this be related to loans or > > > money ? If not, one lead I would like to know is > > if > > > the event happening to you and the event that > > happened > > > to your wife on the same day is in anyway linked ? > > > > > > If not, what was the motivation behind mentioning > > it > > > in the same event ? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Sesha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Namaste Seshaji, Thanks for looking at our charts and writing about these.One of the point is correct and it is that we lost our job.You are pretty correct on that, Could you please give your detailed analysis on both of the charts and tell us whats store in the future? thanks & regards Vikram P.S. Somehow I didn't get your email yesterday and missed replying it to you. vedic astrology, Sesha Mudumbi <mseshas> wrote: > Namaste Vikram ji, > > I looked at both your charts, and used a variety of > techniques at my disposal. I see many (90%) dashas and > schemes, including gochar and annual tithi pravesha > indicating the 6-12 axis. Unfortunately, I am unable > to zoom in any one thing conclusively. I do suspect > two-three events. I will give explanations, if you can > confirm it is one of the following. If it is not any > of these, I do not have the knowledge and abilities at > this point to pinpoint what it is, and will wait for > someone else to identify it, and explain how it > happened. > > 1. Losing a job in the US. > 2. Losing status as an immigrant in the US. > > Respectfully, > Sesha. > > > --- vikram_singhvi <vikram_singhvi> wrote: > > > > > Namaste Seshaji, > > This event has happened to me and > > my wife > > individually in a time span of 1 hr thats why I > > linked it. This is > > exactly the same type of event happened on both of > > us on the same > > day, thats why being a student of astrology I got > > curious to know > > whether our individual charts show the happening of > > this event. > > Being a husband and wife any event happening to one > > person affects > > the other but it happened to both of them > > individually. > > I appreciate you attempting this event puzzle and as > > you asked yes, > > this will eventually lead to money matters. > > > > thanks > > > > Vikram > > > > vedic astrology, Sesha > > Mudumbi <mseshas> > > wrote: > > > Hi Vikram ji, > > > > > > In your chart, could this be related to loans or > > > money ? If not, one lead I would like to know is > > if > > > the event happening to you and the event that > > happened > > > to your wife on the same day is in anyway linked ? > > > > > > If not, what was the motivation behind mentioning > > it > > > in the same event ? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Sesha > > > > > > > > > --- vikram_singhvi <vikram_singhvi> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > I think we got diverted from the > > main > > > > issue.My > > > > mentioning Sanjayji name in my post was not to > > > > dishonor somebody's > > > > feelings or belief but looks like we ran into > > that > > > > issue and I am > > > > still waiting for response for my puzzle/query.I > > > > would request my > > > > fellow list members if they can attemp on this > > > > issue, it will be > > > > really great. If anybody needs some leads I can > > > > provide that. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > Vikram > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > > "Raghunatha > > > > Rao Nemani" > > > > <raon1008> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > > > > > > > Dear Praveen, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the note and like you respect your > > > > methods/Guru of > > > > > learning, I do mine too. So let us not talk > > about > > > > it any more, > > > > > as my mission is very simple,I just want to > > learn, > > > > and share > > > > > my understanding with others. > > > > > > > > > > Having said that, let us get back to our > > learning > > > > and sharing > > > > > of Jyotish and not to waste our time and space > > in > > > > this forum. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Raghunatha Rao > > > > > > > > > > --- original message --- > > > > > Message 48776 > > > > > > > > > > Praveen Kumar <chunnu2001@v...> > > > > > Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:38 pm > > > > > Fw: [vedic astrology] Devastating > > event > > > > : A Puzzle > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rao Nimani, > > > > > Sorry, I deleted your letter by mistake. But, > > seen > > > > it and here is > > > > a > > > > > reply to your objections: > > > > > 1) I never named anybody, but true, my > > personal > > > > experience is very > > > > > disappointing. > > > > > 2) Should a Guru not convince his followers by > > > > demonstrating his > > > > > predictive skills ? > > > > > 3) Have you tested the said Gurus on blind > > > > readings ? > > > > > 4) You asked me to give my analysis on this > > > > puzzle. Should you not > > > > > ask the same thing to Sanjay Rath ? How many > > times > > > > he is replying > > > > to > > > > > such queries. > > > > > 5) Now regarding my message for past details > > in my > > > > replies every > > > > > time. My method of working (and learning) is > > based > > > > on techniques > > > > > which require correct time, and every chart > > has to > > > > be verified > > > > first. > > > > > 6) Regarding not revealing technicalities in > > my > > > > analysis, I can't > > > > > argue endlessly with some adamant persons > > here. In > > > > my opinion, > > > > they > > > > > have learnt wrong things (and it is difficult > > to > > > > unlearn all that > > > > > later) and I try to give better results than > > those > > > > fellow members. > > > > > Let whatever be your techniques, they should > > be > > > > treated as > > > > reliable > > > > > if and only if you can foresee, at least some > > > > basic trends, in > > > > > advance without the native's having to > > describe > > > > it. Astrology is > > > > not > > > > > something of just listening to the problems > > and > > > > prescribing > > > > remedies. > > > > > 7) The other aim of my being here is to learn > > by > > > > solving the > > > > problems > > > > > practically. I am not reading other posts here > > > > except some of the > > > > few > > > > > given by Shri Narasimha Rao. > > > > > > > > > > I have no malice to anybody here. I know there > > are > > > > many sincere > > > > and > > > > > honest persons here. Illustrating, I like and > > > > respect Narasimha > > > > for > > > > > his good qualities but have sharp differences > > > > technically. Thus > > > > > raising objections must be welcome. > > > > > Lastly, I have faith in and follow Shri > > K.N.Rao. > > > > But even in cases > > > > > seen by him, I always try to satisfy myself > > > > regarding TOB. In one > > > > > case of my friend, I have yet not agreed with > > the > > > > Navamsa given by > > > > > him. So, the matter is technical, primarily. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praveen Kumar > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Praveen Kumar > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > 28, 01, 2005 11:13 AM > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > The all-new My - What will yours do? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Namaste Vikram, I teach a two hour class near Boston on every Sunday. Today we spent most of the 2 hours discussing your chart. The class attempted to solve the puzzle (I asked the couple of people who read this list and hence know the answer to keep quiet). We also tried to look at the future and make some prognostications. The techniques used were Narayana dasa (of rasi chart, we haven't yet come to dasamsa Narayana dasa), Vimsottari dasa and Tithi Pravesha. If you are interested in the analysis and prognostications of our class, please download the MP3 files once Sri Seshu uploads them. Link to the site is given below. May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha -------------------------------Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org------------------------------- > Namaste Seshaji,> Thanks for looking at our charts and writing about > these.One of the point is correct and it is that we lost our job.You > are pretty correct on that, Could you please give your detailed > analysis on both of the charts and tell us whats store in the future?> > thanks & regards> > Vikram > > P.S. Somehow I didn't get your email yesterday and missed replying > it to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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