Guest guest Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Hi All, Namaste. I see many posts on marriage possibilities, and questions on delayed marriage. Just wanted to share some findings, that a village astrologer gave me. Apparently, he got this from his "tradition". I have been using this list in the recent past, and seen some consistent results. I applied this to 30 female horoscopes who were denied marriage. They were born between 1915 AD and 1960 AD. The following are the factors from the list, that I found common in all the horoscopes.. Mars is has Drishti on Eight or Eleventh House Mercury is Lord of Second or Third House. Alternatively, Mercury is posited with Lord of Second or Third House. Venus is Lord of Second or Fourth House. Alternatively, Venus is posited with Lord of Second or Fourth House. Mercury or Lord of Twelth House is in Trikona (First, Fifth or Ninth House). Lord of Sixth or Eleventh House is in Panaphara (Second, Fifth,Eighth or Eleventh House). Lord of Ninth/Twelth House having Dristi on Third House. Lord of Eighth House having Dristi on Eighth/Tenth House. Lord of Seventh/Twelfth House having Dristi on Twelth House. Jupiter or Lord of Sixth House is in Dusthana (Sixth, Eighth or Twelth House) Saturn is Lord of Seventh/Eighth/Ninth/Tenth House. Alternatively, Saturn is posited with the Lord of Seventh/Eighth/Ninth/TenthHouse. Sun and Lord of Fourth House are not in Exaltation (Uchcha). If you find five or more Yoga from the above list in any Horoscope, you can predict that the person is either denied marriage or marriage will be delayed. However, while predicting so ensure that Sun and Lordof 4th house are not in exaltation. If all the above Yogas are present, the marriage of that person is highly improbable. --- H R <hr_astro wrote: > A friend of mine, knowing about my interest in > astrology, came with her horoscope. Her birthdate is > 5th may 1966, 7:15 AM at Chennai, India. She has > ketu > in her 1st house (Taurus) and Rahu in her seventh > house. She has neecha bhanga raja yoga with respect > to > exalted venus and debilitated mercury. Inspte of > having a Phd, she is jobless. And after years of > being sought after bride, she used to keep refusing > all offers and now she is still unmarried. Now, she > likes her neighbour and has agreed to marry. He too > likes her but not ready for marriage as he wants to > devote his life to god. (His dob is 23rd april 1963, > again rahu and ketu in 1st and seventh house, and > not > a sanyas horoscope) > > I could not see any causes for a sanyas horoscope in > hers or his. She definitely has kids according to > her > horoscope. So, the delay is due to ketu. She is > running her mercury dasa. > > Can anyone suggest if and when her marriage will > take > place. and will she get married to this guy?? > > > > > > _________ > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even > more fun! http://uk.messenger. > Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Dear Mudambi and Freinds, I wrote a brief note on marriage, sometime ago. Here it is. Marriage is part of dharma and nature’s requirement. It is an institution with multidimensional association. In Jyotish, nearly all the Classics heavily emphasized on this issue of wed lock and the matters associated with them. Ruling Planets Wife: Venus is the Kalatra-Karak and stands for wife, sexual relation with women, semen and passion. Apart from it, the Moon is the secondary ruling planet for wife in male charts. Women having luminaries and lagna in even signs prove good and successful wives, as they possess feminine characteristics. Jupiter placement has great importance in their charts. Husband: Jupiter rules Husband in female charts. The Sun is also seen as secondary indicator of husband, and his status. Sexuality: Venus is the indicator of sexual pleasure in male chart and Mars rules sex-life in female chart. Marriage: As a dharma, and social duty the “institution of marriage” and marriage ceremony is indicated by Jupiter. (It is also indicator of children). While some astrologers hold that Venus is the Naisargika Karaka of marriage. In-Laws: Mercury rules the relations we build. Therefore it also indicates in-laws in general, besides acquaintances and neighbors. The 3rd and 10th houses stand for father and mother in laws respectively. Some scholars hold nodes as their significators. 8th and 9th houses (i.e. second and third from 7th) portray family and coborn of spouse. Widowhood: The Saturn and Mars show widowhood, death and separation from spouse. 8th house is primarily rule over it because 8th house is the second from 7th and seventh from 2nd house. Ruling Signs Libra is the ‘balance’, one-to-one relationship, spousal relationship and one’s nature how he is destined to understand partnership. Scorpio shows sexual relationship, private parts i.e. generative organs. It reveals ones nature about sexuality. Ruling Houses The 7th and 2nd houses are stand for marriage. At secondary level 12th and 4th houses are also liked with marriage institution. Where 7th house is of spouse i.e. wife in male chart and husband in female chart. 2nd house is of phalam, family in general. The 12th house indicates bed comfort and 4th is of happiness and home comfort. Here it is to be noted that why 7th house signify marriage. Since marriage is a part of Dharma which is ruled by 9th and 11th is related with Labh, thus 11th from 9th we found 7th that shows gain from Dharma i.e. marriage. In a similar fashion 11th from 7th is 5th house that stands for children-labh of vivah. On the other hand, Argala is an important influence, plays an unavoidable role during astrological analysis of marriage. In general, a house or planet in 2nd, 4th and 11th from a certain house/planet causes primary argala, while virodh-argala 12th, 10th and 3rd obstruct above good/bad influence. Now looking these houses from 7th, we found, eighth (sexual capacity and dowry), tenth (profession, business activities) and fifth (children, recreation and affection). Obviously these all are either make or mar marriage institution, provided whether benefic or malefic planets are associated with them. Argala should also be judge from Karaka and 7th lord before final conclusion. The second and seventh houses are also called marak sthan(house of death), and eighth is ayu sthan(house of longevity) hence looking these marak and ayu sthans from all marriage related houses in order to get their duration and sustenance. For example seventh and second from 7th, i.e. 8th and 1st become maraka sthan for partnership. Any affliction to 1st (Langa) and 8th lead to death of partner, when the related dasa/bhukti or transit would operate. Similarly eighth from 7th house (i.e. 2nd) and eighth from Karaka (Ve or Ju) yield duration of marriage and age of partner. Third is eighth from 8th house, in general shows initiation of new venture after end. This sequence is taken to get the case for marriages taken place after first. The first marriage is seen from 7th, second from 9th, third from 11th and so on, as third from 7th house is 9th then third from 9th is 11th. 2nd house also plays an indirect role in second marriage. In Navamsha, 2nd house shows secret affairs other than official marriage. About Venus, it is to be noted that, 11th house is not so good for her, while in 12th it is assumed to be very strong. But Venus in 12th of Navamsha is inauspicious. Related Varga Navamsha (D-9) is primarily related to marriage, as it is part of dharma. The position of Venus and Moon (for male) and Jupiter and Sun (for female) are of great importance in Navamsha chart. If these karakas and 7th lord of Rashi are well placed (in own or exalted sing in D-9) then one is destined to marry with an educated, beautiful and well-off spouse. Take the Chara Atma Karaka (AK) in Navamsha chart as lagna, and observe marriage related houses and karaka. If Venus/Jupiter and 7th lord of Rashi are well placed and not fall in malefic houses (6th, 8th, and 12th) with respect to AK then this signify a successful and long lasting marriage. Placement of Venus in 6th, Jupiter in 3rd, the Moon in 8th and the Sun in 12th are inauspicious, as they are their maran karaka sthanas. Note the sign of karaka in Navamsha chart and see where the noted sign falls in Rashi chart. If this sign rises as maran karaka sthan of Karaka then it weakens the karaka severely. For example, if in Navamsha Venus falls into Gemini. But if Gemini is the 6th house from lagna in Rashi then this would feeble the Venus, despite here she is into friendly sign of Mercury in Navamsha. Udu Langa Udu Pada (UL) i.e. arudha of 12th house is particularly discussed by Parasar and Jaimini in the context of marriage and marital happiness. The second from UL indicates phalam or fruits therefore must be studied in both in Rashi (D-1) and Navamsha (D-9) in order to find the outcome of marriage. If UL falls into benefic sign in association with benefic planets then one enjoys all happiness regarding marital life, including; faithful wife, obedient children, and domestic harmony. If second form UL has well placed benefic planets without any affliction then spouse will be beautiful and belongs to a respectable family. If second from UL has any exalted planet then one commands over many women and this situation promises longevity of spouse, provided other factors also there. Similar result is indicated when UL or its second lord falls in own sign. If malefic planets are associated with second form UL then this result in sickness of spouse when the dasa/bhukti of rashi or graha activates. If UL lord conjoins with malefic or malefic planets are with UL then one lives without spouse or may become ascetic. Vivah Saham Vivah Saham is amongst important Arabian parts, a significant cosmic point in chart that stands for marriage but at secondary level. The formula for Vivaha Saham: Vivah Saham = (Venus Long)-(Saturn Long)+(Ascendant Long) here if third parameter i.e. Ascendant's longitude does not fall between Venus and Saturn's longitude then add 30 degrees, otherwise dont. For nigth births take, Vivah Saham = Sat-Ven+Asc. While for parshan charts, sometimes, Vivah Saham(marriage part) is taken differently. Vivha Saham for Parshan = (7th house)-(7th lord)+(Ascendant) Example: Let's suppose a "day time natal chart". Venus is at 17Li48 (=197*48'), Saturn is at 18Le55(=138*55') and Ascendant is at 8Aq55 (=308*55'). Vivah Saham = 197*48' - 138*55' + 308*55' = 367*48' since here third parameter Ascendant is not fallen between Venus and Saturn therefore ADD 30* to above, we get Vivaha Saham = 367*48' + 30* = 397*48'. As this value crossed 360* so minus it from above, as 397*48'-360* = 37*48' That is 7 degrees and 48 minutes of Taurus, or say Vivaha Saham = 7 Ta 48. Interpretation of Vivaha Saham: The Saham (also called Arabian parts) are like significant cosmic points in chart, obtained with the help of adding and subtraction of grahas' longitude. Treat them like special ascendants. They are specifically computed for annual solar return chart (Tajik Varsh parvesh). If they fall into trik bhav(6th, 8th and 12th), they assumed to be weak. Any aspect of benefic planet on it strengthen their status, whereas malefic's aspect afflict them. Transits of benefic planets over them lead to gain with respect to related matters. For the case computed earlier, (Vivah Saham = 7 Ta 48) we can infer. a) Vivaha saham falls (here) in Taurus lorded by Venus. Thus dasa and bhukt of Venus (and related nakshatra lord Sun) lead to marriage, provided the native's age and circumstances permit. b) Check when the Vivah Saham lord (here Venus) will conjoin either with Lagna (here Aquarius) and Lagnesh(here Saturn). The very time gives happiness regarding marriage. c) Note the transit of Jupiter over Saham (here Taurus) or its trine signs, the time of that transit will favour marriage possibilities. d) Transit of natural malefics Saturn and Rahu over Saham result in delay, losses and troubles. e) Find, when in the annual solar return chart, "Mantha" falls into vivha saham sign "Taurus", (or say simply when SuDarshan Dasa of House having Taurus will commence). That year will also prove favourable regarding marriage. f) Note the yogas in chart, involved either Saham's lord and its sign of occupation. Good yogas yield favour and arishtas obstruct. More than one Marriage More than one marriage happens only when the yoga of one marriage are not in the chart or very weak as compare to the yogas for multiple marriage. Followings are the important yogas result in only one marriage. If either lord of 2nd and 7th be associated with strongest planet(having exaltation, digbala, etc), one will have only one marriage. If 7th house is benefic sign associated with strong Jupiter, native won’t go for second marriage. Jupiter and 7th lord in the navamsha of Sun or Mars, gives one marriage. If 2nd and 7th lords are in 2nd and 7th respectively then one will have only one marriage. If Sun is in 6th or 12th, similarly the conjunction of Sun+Moon in lagna leads to one marriage. Here’s some important yogas result in more than one marriage. Results will be more effective when the planets occupied in bhava Madhya. UL or 2nd from it falls into Gemini, may result in more than one marriage. One malefic in 7th and more than one malefic in 2nd house, when 7th lord is going to be combust or debilitated. 7th house falls in malefic sign when 7th lord is debilitated. 7th lord in 6th associated with Rahu. Malefics in 7th and 7th lord should associate with a weak benefic. Moon in 7th from Venus/Mercury and 8th lord in 5th. Saturn and Rahu in the 7th not aspected/conjoined by benefics. 7th lord and Venus both fall in dual navamsha. Venus in Virgo navamsha aspected by malefics. Two or more malefic planets in 2nd and not aspected by 2nd lord. Two or more malefic planets in 7th and not aspected by 7th lord. There are hundreds of such yogas, not possible to write all here. But it should be borne in mind that individual application of these yogas will be wild guess. Delayed Marriage Saturn, Rahu and the Sun are also known as separating planets. If they are afflicted and influencing the marriage related house/planets, delay in marriage is resulted. Delay in marriage may materialized when; The lagna, lagna lord, 7th lord and Venus fall in fixed signs (Ta, Le, Sc, Aq). The Moon is waning and aspected by Saturn. The Sun is placed in 7th house without any benefic association. Lord of 7th house is retrograde and aspected by Saturn or Rahu. Saturn and Rahu fully aspect 7th or 2nd house. Weak Moon in 5th house and malefic planets are occupied in 7th and 12th house. Venus or 7th lord is combust and aspected by Saturn or Rahu. Venus and the luminaries should place into barren signs. Saturn, Rahu and/or the Sun is placed in seventh from the Moon or AK. No Marriage or Unmarried State The following combinations may cause distinct possibility of marriage or even no marriage. Saturn should aspect both the Venus and waning Moon and either of them falls in the constellation of Saturn or Rahu. Mercury in 2nd or 4th from lagna or Karaka cause sanyas. Saturn should fully aspect the 7th house and its afflicted lord. Lord of 7th or 2nd is afflicted by Saturn or Rahu. Saturn, Rahu or/and the Sun are placed in 7th or 2nd without benefic aspect/association. UL (upapada) and seconds from it, occupied by the Saturn or Rahu in rashi/navamsha. Upgraha Dhuma or Gulika should afflict 7th house and Venus leads to no marriage. The 7th and 2nd lords are in conjunction with malefic and Venus is placed in dushtana house. Malefics are in lagna, 7th, and 12th houses when waning Moon is in 5th house. Timing of Marriage Before getting probable time of marriage, some important point must be determined. That is (a) the chart has possibility of marriage. (b) The age of marriage according to family custom and social environment. First of all, find the broader interval of age of marriage, i.e. wed-lock at an early age, middle age, or late in life according to social and religious circumstances. Here’s some basic rules. • Sage Parasar says marriage is taken place in the dasa and antar of un-afflicted 7th or 2nd lord. Also in the dasa/bhukti of planets associated with 7th and 2nd houses. • During the dasa/bukhti of planet occupied strongly in 7th lead to marriage. • Marriage may take place during dasa/bhukti of Karakas i.e. either in Venus or Jupiter. • The dasa/bukhti of sign having UL results in marriage. • Marriage may take place during dasa/bhukti of ‘navamsha lord’ of 7th house or 7th lord. • Marital happiness is obtained during dasa/bukhti of lord of sign having Sree Lagna or DK in D-1 and D-9. • Marriage may take place during the year, when sign contains Karaka, UL or SL, ascends as lagna of annual solar return chart. • The transit of Jupiter over 2nd, 7th or 9th probably leads to marriage (in Rashi and Navamsha as well). • When Jupiter transit over natal ascendant or 7th from it, and lagna lord ingresses into 7th house. • Jupiter in gochar, over Karaka, lord of 7th or vivah saham gives marriage. • Jupiter in gochar, when arrives in 2nd from lord of navamsha occupied by lagna lord. Regards, M.Imran --- Sesha Mudumbi <mseshas wrote: > Hi All, > > Namaste. I see many posts on marriage > possibilities, > and questions on delayed marriage. Just wanted to > share some findings, that a village astrologer gave > me. Apparently, he got this from his "tradition". I > have been using this list in the recent past, and > seen > some consistent results. > > I applied this to 30 female horoscopes who were > denied > marriage. They were born between 1915 AD and 1960 > AD. > > The following are the factors from the list, that I > found common in all the horoscopes.. > > Mars is has Drishti on Eight or Eleventh House > > Mercury is Lord of Second or Third House. > Alternatively, Mercury is posited with Lord of > Second or Third House. > > Venus is Lord of Second or Fourth House. > Alternatively, Venus is posited with Lord of > Second or Fourth House. > > Mercury or Lord of Twelth House is in Trikona > (First, > Fifth or Ninth House). > > Lord of Sixth or Eleventh House is in Panaphara > (Second, Fifth,Eighth or Eleventh House). > > Lord of Ninth/Twelth House having Dristi on Third > House. > > Lord of Eighth House having Dristi on Eighth/Tenth > House. > > Lord of Seventh/Twelfth House having Dristi on > Twelth > House. > > Jupiter or Lord of Sixth House is in Dusthana > (Sixth, > Eighth or Twelth House) > > Saturn is Lord of Seventh/Eighth/Ninth/Tenth House. > Alternatively, Saturn is posited with the Lord of > Seventh/Eighth/Ninth/TenthHouse. > > Sun and Lord of Fourth House are not in Exaltation > (Uchcha). > > If you find five or more Yoga from the above list in > any Horoscope, you can predict that the person is > either denied marriage or marriage will be delayed. > However, while predicting so ensure that Sun and > Lordof 4th house are not in exaltation. If all the > above Yogas are present, the marriage of that person > is highly improbable. > > > --- H R <hr_astro wrote: > > > A friend of mine, knowing about my interest in > > astrology, came with her horoscope. Her birthdate > is > > 5th may 1966, 7:15 AM at Chennai, India. She has > > ketu > > in her 1st house (Taurus) and Rahu in her seventh > > house. She has neecha bhanga raja yoga with > respect > > to > > exalted venus and debilitated mercury. Inspte of > > having a Phd, she is jobless. And after years of > > being sought after bride, she used to keep > refusing > > all offers and now she is still unmarried. Now, > she > > likes her neighbour and has agreed to marry. He > too > > likes her but not ready for marriage as he wants > to > > devote his life to god. (His dob is 23rd april > 1963, > > again rahu and ketu in 1st and seventh house, and > > not > > a sanyas horoscope) > > > > I could not see any causes for a sanyas horoscope > in > > hers or his. She definitely has kids according to > > her > > horoscope. So, the delay is due to ketu. She is > > running her mercury dasa. > > > > Can anyone suggest if and when her marriage will > > take > > place. and will she get married to this guy?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________ > > > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even > > more fun! http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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