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FYI, I am forwarding an interesting post I made today on another group.

 

Compared to that group, this group has more people who can understand some of

the subtle philosophical points made in this post.

 

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Namaste friends, Somebody asked a while ago about arudha pada computation. He

said that my free software (Jagannatha Hora Lite) considers the dual lordship

of Aq and Sc and takes the stronger lord when computing arudhas. He asked for

Sri KN Rao's view on this and Sri Rao said only Saturn and Mars should be used.

As my software was mentioned, I need to clarify why I implemented it the way I

did. After defining bhava arudhas and graha arudhas, Parasara said: dwinaatha

dwibhayorevam vijneyam sabalaavadhiviganayya padam vipra tatastasya phalam

vadet This clearly says that the stronger lord should be used when finding

bhava arudha (house manifestation) of a sign with 2 lords and the stronger sign

should be used when finding graha arudha (planetary manifestation) of a planet

owning 2 signs. Of course, one can always suggest corruptions in BPHS and

escape, but the above verse of Parasara matches what *our tradition* teaches.

It makes sense too. So I had no reason to violate the abvoe instruction of

Parasara. In our tradition, there is one occasion where we ignore the nodal

ownership of Aq and Sc. If an arudha falls in Aq or Sc and we are looking for

the lord of that arudha, we then ignore nodes. The reason is that nodes have no

physical bodies. For example, computation of Padanaathaamsa dasa taught by

Jaimini requires us to take the lord of arudha lagna in rasi chart and take his

position in navamsa as the seed and find dasas in navamsa chart. This dasa shows

how one's fortune and poorva punya (navamsa) influences one's status and image

with time. This dasa is good for seeing phases in life from the point of view

of image and status. Take George W Bush for example. Rasi chart has AL in Sc.

Mars is in Leo in navamsa. Find chara dasa in navasma chart taking Leo as lagna

and using navamsa instead of rasi. You will then get his Padanaathaamsa dasa

then. You will see that he is running Aries dasa containing exalted Sun in

navamsa from 2001 to 2005. Naturally, his poorva punya made him a powerful

person in this dasa and made him a President. You may notice that he had the

reputation of being a balanced and diplomatic governor who brought the two

parties together in Texas, exactly during Pisces dasa containing exalted Venus

in navamsa. Once Aries dasa started, his image changed from a peaceful

harmonizer (Venus in Pisces) to a war-mongering and powerful king (Sun in

Aries). Previously, during Aquarius dasa containing Ketu, he had an image

makeover. He suddenly became religious and built the image of a born-again

Christian (Ketu). All the image changes happen due the interaction between the

lord of rasi chart arudha lagna and planets in navamsa chart. When finding this

dasa, we take Saturn/Mars as the lord of arudha lagna if it is in Aq/Sc. We

ignore nodes. Let me give our philosophy behind that. In our tradition, signs

are inanimate and planets are animate. Houses show the inanimate

objects/situations/circumstances and house lords show the animation behind

them. House lords show the intelligence behind the matters of the house, which

is the driving force. For example, one's overall learning process can be seen

from the 4th house (in D-24). The application of intelligence to one's learning

process is seen from the 4th lord. The 4th lord is the driving force behind 4th.

Being a planet, he is animate. He shows the intelligence, thinking, feeling etc

that drive the learning. In our tradition, houses and house lords operate at

the level of Shiva and their arudhas operate at the level of Shakti. Houses and

house lords show satya (truth), but unmanifested absolute truth (that exists in

a vacuum and has no perceptible manifestation). Their arudhas shows the

manifestation (Shakti). So arudhas of houses and planets show the tangible and

perceptible things that are part of the maaya (illusion) of Shakti. When we are

talking about house lords showing the intelligence that drives the matters of a

house, that is the universal intelligence. For example, my 7th lord shows the

intelligence driving my relations. Is it my intelligence or my wife's or a

business partner's or somebody else's? If you understand the difference between

Shiva and Shakti and the difference between unmanifested absolute truth and the

manifestation (also known as "maya", i.e. illusion), this is a meaningless

question. When we are talking about house lords, we are in the domain of

unmenifested absolute truth. In that domain, there is no distinction between my

intelligence, my wife's intelligence and somebody else's. They are all one and

the same!!! The differentiation comes in the domain of

manifestion/maya/illusion represented by Shakti. So the differentiation comes

when we consider arudhas. Rahu and Ketu do not exist physically. They have no

physical manifestation. But they do exist in the realm of unmanifested absolute

truth and they *are* capable of *causing* physical manifestation of something.

So, when we are looking for the lord of lagna or lord of another house (e.g.

when finding the arudha of a house), Rahu and Ketu MUST be considered as the

lords of the house. However, when we are looking for the lord of an arudha

pada, Rahu and Ketu should not be considered. This is the wisdom of our

tradition and the philosophy behind it. I hope it makes some sense to

discerning scholars. May Jupiter's light shine on

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Dear PVR

 

Namaskaar

 

I can see J. Krishnamurti sayings in your following para particularly

'universal intelligence':

 

When we are talking about house lords showing the intelligence that

drives the matters of a house, that is the universal intelligence.

For example, my 7th lord shows the intelligence driving my

relations. Is it my intelligence or my wife's or a business

partner's or somebody else's? If you understand the difference

between Shiva and Shakti and the difference between unmanifested

absolute truth and the manifestation (also known as "maya", i.e.

illusion), this is a meaningless question. When we are talking about

house lords, we are in the domain of unmenifested absolute truth. In

that domain, there is no distinction between my intelligence, my

wife's intelligence and somebody else's. They are all one and the

same!!!

 

The differentiation comes in the domain of manifestion/maya/illusion

represented by Shakti. So the differentiation comes when we consider

arudhas.

 

 

Can you please elaborate a bit more or forward a paper/doc on this topic -

difference between Shiva & Shakti/difference between unmanifested &

manifested truth (maya)? I'm more interested in understanding manifestation

represented by Shakti - how & why differentiation comes? I read from Sanjay

ji's papers that we have Sri Shakti, Bhu Shakti & Neela Shakti. I also

remember 'The Mother' of Pondicherry as manifested shakti of 'Sri

Aurobindo'...

 

Please reply

 

regds

Tushankur

 

 

 

 

 

"Narasimha P.V.R.

Rao"

<pvr To

 

21/01/2005 04:00 <vedic astrology>

cc

 

 

 

 

 

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[vedic astrology] Fwd: Arudhas and

Nodes Question

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

FYI, I am forwarding an interesting post I made today on another group.

 

Compared to that group, this group has more people who can understand some

of the subtle philosophical points made in this post.

 

-----------------------

Namaste friends,

 

Somebody asked a while ago about arudha pada computation. He said

that my free software (Jagannatha Hora Lite) considers the dual

lordship of Aq and Sc and takes the stronger lord when computing

arudhas. He asked for Sri KN Rao's view on this and Sri Rao said

only Saturn and Mars should be used.

 

As my software was mentioned, I need to clarify why I implemented it

the way I did.

 

After defining bhava arudhas and graha arudhas, Parasara said:

 

dwinaatha dwibhayorevam vijneyam sabalaavadhi

viganayya padam vipra tatastasya phalam vadet

 

This clearly says that the stronger lord should be used when finding

bhava arudha (house manifestation) of a sign with 2 lords and the

stronger sign should be used when finding graha arudha (planetary

manifestation) of a planet owning 2 signs.

 

Of course, one can always suggest corruptions in BPHS and escape,

but the above verse of Parasara matches what *our tradition*

teaches. It makes sense too. So I had no reason to violate the abvoe

instruction of Parasara.

 

In our tradition, there is one occasion where we ignore the nodal

ownership of Aq and Sc. If an arudha falls in Aq or Sc and we are

looking for the lord of that arudha, we then ignore nodes. The

reason is that nodes have no physical bodies.

 

For example, computation of Padanaathaamsa dasa taught by Jaimini

requires us to take the lord of arudha lagna in rasi chart and take

his position in navamsa as the seed and find dasas in navamsa chart.

This dasa shows how one's fortune and poorva punya (navamsa)

influences one's status and image with time. This dasa is good for

seeing phases in life from the point of view of image and status.

 

Take George W Bush for example. Rasi chart has AL in Sc. Mars is in

Leo in navamsa. Find chara dasa in navasma chart taking Leo as lagna

and using navamsa instead of rasi. You will then get his

Padanaathaamsa dasa then. You will see that he is running Aries dasa

containing exalted Sun in navamsa from 2001 to 2005. Naturally, his

poorva punya made him a powerful person in this dasa and made him a

President. You may notice that he had the reputation of being a

balanced and diplomatic governor who brought the two parties

together in Texas, exactly during Pisces dasa containing exalted

Venus in navamsa. Once Aries dasa started, his image changed from a

peaceful harmonizer (Venus in Pisces) to a war-mongering and

powerful king (Sun in Aries). Previously, during Aquarius dasa

containing Ketu, he had an image makeover. He suddenly became

religious and built the image of a born-again Christian (Ketu). All

the image changes happen due the interaction between the lord of

rasi chart arudha lagna and planets in navamsa chart.

 

When finding this dasa, we take Saturn/Mars as the lord of arudha

lagna if it is in Aq/Sc. We ignore nodes. Let me give our philosophy

behind that.

 

In our tradition, signs are inanimate and planets are animate.

Houses show the inanimate objects/situations/circumstances and house

lords show the animation behind them. House lords show the

intelligence behind the matters of the house, which is the driving

force. For example, one's overall learning process can be seen from

the 4th house (in D-24). The application of intelligence to one's

learning process is seen from the 4th lord. The 4th lord is the

driving force behind 4th. Being a planet, he is animate. He shows

the intelligence, thinking, feeling etc that drive the learning.

 

In our tradition, houses and house lords operate at the level of

Shiva and their arudhas operate at the level of Shakti. Houses and

house lords show satya (truth), but unmanifested absolute truth

(that exists in a vacuum and has no perceptible manifestation).

Their arudhas shows the manifestation (Shakti). So arudhas of houses

and planets show the tangible and perceptible things that are part

of the maaya (illusion) of Shakti.

 

When we are talking about house lords showing the intelligence that

drives the matters of a house, that is the universal intelligence.

For example, my 7th lord shows the intelligence driving my

relations. Is it my intelligence or my wife's or a business

partner's or somebody else's? If you understand the difference

between Shiva and Shakti and the difference between unmanifested

absolute truth and the manifestation (also known as "maya", i.e.

illusion), this is a meaningless question. When we are talking about

house lords, we are in the domain of unmenifested absolute truth. In

that domain, there is no distinction between my intelligence, my

wife's intelligence and somebody else's. They are all one and the

same!!!

 

The differentiation comes in the domain of manifestion/maya/illusion

represented by Shakti. So the differentiation comes when we consider

arudhas.

 

Rahu and Ketu do not exist physically. They have no physical

manifestation. But they do exist in the realm of unmanifested

absolute truth and they *are* capable of *causing* physical

manifestation of something. So, when we are looking for the lord of

lagna or lord of another house (e.g. when finding the arudha of a

house), Rahu and Ketu MUST be considered as the lords of the house.

However, when we are looking for the lord of an arudha pada, Rahu

and Ketu should not be considered.

 

This is the wisdom of our tradition and the philosophy behind it. I

hope it makes some sense to discerning scholars.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net>

Free Jyotish software (Windows): <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>

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