#5 Rahu / Ketu Rulership (Prital)

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Dear Devika, Namaskaar. Answers / Thoughts below…

 

I have tried giving references where possible, for your continued

research and evaluation. Try to get the exact Sanskrit or translation

from BPHS (Sharma).

 

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Dear Nitin Ji,

Here you have a link to a message send by Robert Koch.

In that message, he mentions the word "Karakamsha", what does that mean?

 

[Via NK]

The sign occupied in the Navamsa by the Chara Atmakaraka is the

defined as the Karakamsa.

http://www..org/learn/ck.htm

 

 

 

 

Also, which houses and rashis does Rahu aspect and which houses and

rashis does Ketu aspects? I need to clarify this as people have

different opinions on this.

 

[Via NK]

To understand aspects, we have to first understand 2 classifications:

 

Rashi Drishti

Graha Drishti

 

On Rashi Drishti:

 

BPHS (English Translation)

Ch. 8. Drishtis of the Rashis

1-3. Rashi Drishtis. O Maitreya, now detailed are the Drishtis,

emanating from the Rashi Mesh etc. Every Movable Rashi drishties the 3

Fixed Rashis, leaving the Fixed Rashi adjacent to it. Every Fixed

Rashi gives Drishti to the 3 Movable Rashis, barring the adjacent

Movable Rashi. And a Common Rashi gives a Drishti to the other three

Common Rashis. The Grah in a Rashi gives the same Drishti, as the

Rashi (in which the Grah is) does.

4-5. Dristhis of the Grahas. A Grah in a Movable Rashi gives a Drishti

to the other 3 Fixed Rashis, leaving the Fixed Rashi next to it. A

Grah in a Fixed Rashi does not give a Drishti to the next Movable

Rashi, but the remaining 3 Movable Rashis. The one in a Common Rashi

gives a Drishti to the remaining 3 Common Rashis. Simultaneously a

Grah in the Rashi, that receives a Drishti, is also subjected to the

Drishti concerned.

 

[Via NK]

If I understand correctly, Sage Parasara did not explicitly exclude

the Nodes. Rahu / Ketu are also classified as Grahas.

 

On Graha Drishti:

 

BPHS (English Translation)

Ch. 26. Evaluation of Drishtis of Grahas

1. O Glorious, it is said, that Drishtis (of Grahas) and their

strengths are to be known in deciding the effects. How many kinds are

these? Please clarify doubts.

2-5. Drishtis of the Grahas. O Brahmin, I have earlier stated

Drishtis, based on Rashis. The other kind is between Grahas, which I

detail below. 3rd and 10th, 5th and 9th, 4th and 8th and lastly 7th.

On these places the Drishtis increase gradually in slabs of quarters,

i.e ¼, ½, ¾ and full. The effects will also be proportionate. All

Grahas give a Drishti to the 7th fully. Śani, Guru and Mangal have

special Drishtis, respectively, on the 3rd and the 10th, the 5th and

the 9th and the 4th and the 8th. The ancient preceptors have explained

these, which ordinary. By subtle mathematical calculations these

Drishtis will have to be clearly understood, as under.

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[Via NK]

If I understand correctly, Ketu has no "eyes" (Story of how Ketu came

to be) hence no desires… one cannot desire something that is not seen,

or the concept of which is unknown. Ketu is also MokshaKaraka.

 

Consider Rahu's graha drishti similar to Jupiter – the 5th, the 7th

and the 9th. Furthermore, there is also the aspect to the 2nd. Apply

them backward as the Nodes are in reverse.

 

 

 

Ketu only has Rashi Drishti.

 

For some arguing no aspects at all, I simply ask them – has there

never been a shadow come upon them? Be it by a person or that of an

object? Be it that during the light of the Stars in the evening, or

during the day when the Sun is shining…?

:>

 

 

 

I know that he took the following from our scriptures and I am not

trying to ridicule this, but I want to understand this better. I an

quoting the following from his email:

1. "Grahas (any Graha) in the 12th house will be the source of a

short life, like Rahu in 12th.

 

My dad is 81 years old and in excellent health and he has Rahu in 12th.

[Via NK]

Excellent! Now check – are the Sages specifically referring to the

Rashi or…?

 

Are there any other considerations as well?

[The idea of the previous posting was to demonstrate that Rahu could

aspect the Lagna.]

 

More below…

 

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BPHS (English Translation)

Ch. 44. Marak Grahas

1. O Maharishi Parashar, you have mentioned a lot about longevity. Be

kind enough to throw light on Marakas, or killers.

2-5. O Brahmin, Sahaj and Randhr Bhava are the two Bhavas of

longevity. The Bhavas, related to death, are the 12th from each of

these, i.e. Dhan and Yuvati Bhava are Marak Bhavas.

3. Out of the two, Dhan Bhava is a powerful Marak Bhava. The Lords of

Dhan and Yuvati Bhava, malefics in Dhan and Yuvati Bhava and malefics,

yuti with Dhan's Lord and yuti with Yuvati's Lord are all known, as

Marakas. The major and sub-periods of these Grahas will bring death on

the native, depending on whether he is a long life, medium life, or

short life person.

6-7. The Dasha of a benefic Grah, related to Vyaya's Lord may also

inflict death. End may descend on the native in Randhr's Lord's Dasha.

The Dasha of a Grah, which is an exclusive malefic, may also cause death.

9. Should Śani be ill-disposed and be related to a Marak Grah, he will

be the first to kill in preference to other Grahas.

10-14. O Brahmin, I tell you further about Marakas. Narrated earlier

are three kinds of life-spans, viz. short, medium and long. Short life

is before 32 years, later on up to 64 it is medium life and from 64 to

100 it is long life. Beyond 100 the longevity is called supreme. O

excellent of the Brahmins, it is impossible to decide upon longevity

till the native is 20 years old. Till such year the child should be

protected by sacred recitations, religious offerings (of Ghī etc.) to

consecrated fire, as prescribed in the Vedas etc. and through medical

treatments, for premature death may descend on the child due to sins

of father and mother, or of its own (in the previous birth).

15-21. I further mention about the Marak Grahas. One born with short

life combinations may face death in the Dasha, denoted by Vipat star

(3rd from the birth star), one of medium life may die in the Dasha,

denoted by Pratyak star (5th from the birth star). In the Dasha,

denoted by Vadh star (7th from the birth star), one with long life may

obtain his end. The Dasha of the Lord of the 22nd Dreshkan, or 23rd,

or 3rd, or 5th, or 7th asterisms may also cause death. The Lords of

the 2nd and the 12th, counted from Kark, may bring death. This is

true, when Candr is a malefic. If he happens to be a benefic, there

will be diseases (not death). Death may come to pass in the Dasha of

Ari's Lord and in the subperiods of Ari's, Randhr's and/or Vyaya's

Lords. Should there be many Marakas and, if these Marakas are strong,

there will be diseases, miseries etc. in major and sub-periods. Thus

these are Marakas and are primarily related to bring death upon the

native. According to their dispositions there may be death, or

difficulties.

22-24. Rahu and Ketu, as Marakas. If Rahu, or Ketu are placed in Tanu,

Yuvati, Randhr, or Vyaya Bhava, or happen to be in the 7th from a

Marak Lord, or are placed with such a Grah, they acquire powers of

killing in their major, or sub-periods. For one born in Makar, or in

Vrischik, Rahu will be a Marak. Should Rahu be in Ari, Randhr, or

Vyaya Bhava, he will give difficulties in his Dasha periods. He will

not, however, do so, if Rahu receives a Drishti from, or is yuti with

a benefic.

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2. "If the Moon occupies the sign Scorpio and be aspected by Ketu,

the person born will be a minister of a king."

 

My son has Ketu Conjunct Moon in Scorpio, he is not a king.

[Via NK]

Not the King.

:>

 

Minister of a King. i.e. suggestive of the possibility that he would

be aligned in the role of a counselor in the future to a prominent,

authoritative personality / institution. The King could simply reflect

being part of an organization recognized for its works. The exact

interpretation is open as we are all evolving…

 

 

If Ketu aspects the 5th house (in retro motion), then I have Moon in

5th from Ketu going in retro motion. I am certainly not a king in any

sense.

[Via NK]

Distinguish between Rashi and Graha Drishti, and see if this applies.

 

Further consider which chart the Seers may be leading one to, If not

the Rashi?

 

 

 

3. When Mars occupies the Ascendant being aspected by Rahu, the person

born will have a cord coiled round his body.

"Cord coiled round the body" ? What does that mean? Can one actually

physically see the cord?

 

[Via NK]

This is the umbilical cord at birth.

 

I have still not forgotten to read that erroneous book that I had

mentioned, which states the planetary placements for diseases. Once I

read it, I will email you with the details.

 

Thanks,

Devika.

 

[Via NK]

Glad to hear you are continuing your studies. This list has been

wonderful for the exchange of knowledge and discussion.

 

Best wishes,

Nitin.

 

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