Guest guest Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 Hi to all VRY is a typical yoga, for which there are not many references available except in UttarKalamrta (by kalidas). By definition, 6th lord, 8th lord and 12th lord must be placed in another dusthana house (not the same house- e.g. 6th lord must be in 8th or 12th NOT in 6th) and they must not be associated with another planet. 3rd lord is not provided in the definition. So the complete VRY is a rare one. According to the source, I referred, it makes a man Raja. Now the question to be looked into is - will partial VRY (not complying with the above definition) give any positive outcome ? or the outcome are basically sarla/vimla yoga NOT the VRY, as we may interpret. As in astrology, there is no such definition of partial yoga. Secondly, most yoga definition and astrological interpretations are also subject to new interpretations (due to basic change in structure of society and relationship). For example- 12th lord gives videsh yatra and residence..hence was considered bad by sages. But in modern age, this interpretation is fallacious..so is 2ne house, 4th house and so on... and in my humble view, this shift in environment / yuga / social structure & living patterns needs to be inducted and fresh look to be given for the karkatva indicated in reference books. If one chooses to apply this, they will e surprised by the analysis. S far as VRY goes..my chart has 6th lord in 8th, 8th lord in 12th and 12th lord in 6th...but the absolute definition is in breach for 3rd lord in 8th too. Though, I may like to believe that it is VRY (perfect one); but by definition, it is not. Readers may assess it themselves: March 8, 1967 17.40 IST Jodhpur-Raj(India)- 26N17, 73E04 I am willing to share events, to get down to VRY effects, if required. Regards/Prafulla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">|| Jaya Jagannath || Dear Jyotisha, 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">We all know that vipareeta rajayoga brings a lot of benefit to a native by sudden rise/ sudden benefit. However, this does not come without any cost. Following paragraphs from Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra, writes mostly negative things for the placement of a Dusthana lord in another Dusthana. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Experts might like to comment. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Regards Sarajit 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"> font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"> font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">3rd Lord 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">27. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be endowed with happiness through co-born and will have wealth and sons, be cheerful and extremely happy. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">30. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will be inimical to his co-born, be affluent, will not be well disposed to his maternal uncle and be dear to his maternal aunt. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">32. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be a thief, will derive his livelihood serving others and will die at the gate of the royal palace. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">36. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Vyaya, the native will spend on evil deeds, will have a wicked father and will be fortunate through a female. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">6th Lord 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">63. If Ari’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be given to anger, be bereft of courage, inimical to all of his co-born and will have disobedient servants. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">66. If Ari’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will have enmity with the group of his kinsmen, but be friendly to others and will enjoy mediocre happiness in matters, like wealth. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">68. If Ari’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be sickly, inimical, will desire others’ wealth, be interested in others’ wives and be impure. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">72. If Ari’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will always spend on vices, be hostile to learned people and will torture living beings. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">8th Lord 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">87. If Randhr’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal happiness, be indolent and devoid of servants and strength. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">90. If Randhr’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will win over his enemies, be afflicted by diseases and during childhood will incur danger through snakes and water. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">92. If Randhr’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be long-lived. If the said Grah is weak, being in Randhr Bhava, the longevity will be medium, while the native will be a thief, be blameworthy and will blame others as well. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">96. If Randhr’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will spend on evil deeds and will incur a short life. More so, if there be additionally a malefic in the said Bhava. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">12th lord 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">135. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal bliss, will hate others and will promote self-nourishment. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">138. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will incur enmity with his own men, be given to anger, be sinful, miserable and will go to others’ wives. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">140. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will always gain, will speak affably, will enjoy a medium span of life and be endowed with all good qualities. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">144. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will only face heavy expenditure, will not have physical felicity, be irritable and spiteful. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> mso-yfti-tbllook:480;mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;mso-border-insideh: ..5pt solid windowtext;mso-border-insidev:.5pt solid windowtext"> mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:#FFCC99;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"> border-left:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt;background:#FFCC99;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">3rd lord border-left:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt;background:#FFCC99;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">6th lord border-left:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt;background:#FFCC99;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">8th lord border-left:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt;background:#FFCC99;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">12th lord border-top:none;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; background:#FFCC99;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">3rd lord none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:#FFFF99;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">If Sahaj’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be endowed with happiness through co-born and will have wealth and sons, be cheerful and extremely happy 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:#CCFFFF;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">If Sahaj’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will be inimical to his co-born, be affluent, will not be well disposed to his maternal uncle and be dear to his maternal aunt. none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:#00CCFF;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">If Sahaj’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be a thief, will derive his livelihood serving others and will die at the gate of the royal palace. none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:#00CCFF;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">If Sahaj’s Lord is in Vyaya, the native will spend on evil deeds, will have a wicked father and will be fortunate through a female. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> border-top:none;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; background:#FFCC99;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">6th lord none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:#00CCFF;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">If Ari’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be given to anger, be bereft of courage, inimical to all of his co-born and will have disobedient servants. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:#CCFFFF;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">If Ari’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will have enmity with the group of his kinsmen, but be friendly to others and will enjoy mediocre happiness in matters, like wealth. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:#00CCFF;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">If Ari’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be sickly, inimical, will desire others’ wealth, be interested in others’ wives and be impure. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:#00CCFF;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">If Ari’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will always spend on vices, be hostile to learned people and will torture living beings. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> border-top:none;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; background:#FFCC99;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">8th lord none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt; 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If the said Grah is weak, being in Randhr Bhava, the longevity will be medium, while the native will be a thief, be blameworthy and will blame others as well. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:#00CCFF;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">If Randhr’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will spend on evil deeds and will incur a short life. More so, if there be additionally a malefic in the said Bhava. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> border-top:none;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; background:#FFCC99;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">12th lord none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:#00CCFF;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">If Vyaya’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal bliss, will hate others and will promote self-nourishment. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:#00CCFF;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">If Vyaya’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will incur enmity with his own men, be given to anger, be sinful, miserable and will go to others’ wives. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:#FFFF99;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">If Vyaya’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will always gain, will speak affably, will enjoy a medium span of life and be endowed with all good qualities. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:#00CCFF;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">If Vyaya’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will only face heavy expenditure, will not have physical felicity, be irritable and spiteful. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">Legend mso-yfti-tbllook:480;mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;mso-border-insideh: ..5pt solid windowtext;mso-border-insidev:.5pt solid windowtext"> mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;background:#FFFF99;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> border-left:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Positive Results border-top:none;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; background:#CCFFCC;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Moderate Results border-top:none;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; background:#00CCFF;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .5pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Negative Results 10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Good compilation Mr. Sarajit. I agree 100% that VRY is quiet elusive and need an extremely cautious approach. This is one area where I have to pause and think and I am apprehensive about my interpretations. Anyway, we should investigate further and share our experiences. Praveen Kumar - Sarajit Poddar vedic astrology ; varahamihira ; sjcsingapore 09, 01, 2005 9:50 AM [vedic astrology] A Fresh look on Vipareeta Rajayoga || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Jyotisha, We all know that vipareeta rajayoga brings a lot of benefit to a native by sudden rise/ sudden benefit. However, this does not come without any cost. Following paragraphs from Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra, writes mostly negative things for the placement of a Dusthana lord in another Dusthana. Experts might like to comment. RegardsSarajit 3rd Lord 27. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be endowed with happiness through co-born and will have wealth and sons, be cheerful and extremely happy. 30. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will be inimical to his co-born, be affluent, will not be well disposed to his maternal uncle and be dear to his maternal aunt. 32. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be a thief, will derive his livelihood serving others and will die at the gate of the royal palace. 36. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Vyaya, the native will spend on evil deeds, will have a wicked father and will be fortunate through a female. 6th Lord 63. If Ari’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be given to anger, be bereft of courage, inimical to all of his co-born and will have disobedient servants. 66. If Ari’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will have enmity with the group of his kinsmen, but be friendly to others and will enjoy mediocre happiness in matters, like wealth. 68. If Ari’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be sickly, inimical, will desire others’ wealth, be interested in others’ wives and be impure. 72. If Ari’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will always spend on vices, be hostile to learned people and will torture living beings. 8th Lord 87. If Randhr’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal happiness, be indolent and devoid of servants and strength. 90. If Randhr’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will win over his enemies, be afflicted by diseases and during childhood will incur danger through snakes and water. 92. If Randhr’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be long-lived. If the said Grah is weak, being in Randhr Bhava, the longevity will be medium, while the native will be a thief, be blameworthy and will blame others as well. 96. If Randhr’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will spend on evil deeds and will incur a short life. More so, if there be additionally a malefic in the said Bhava. 12th lord 135. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal bliss, will hate others and will promote self-nourishment. 138. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will incur enmity with his own men, be given to anger, be sinful, miserable and will go to others’ wives. 140. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will always gain, will speak affably, will enjoy a medium span of life and be endowed with all good qualities. 144. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will only face heavy expenditure, will not have physical felicity, be irritable and spiteful. 3rd lord 6th lord 8th lord 12th lord 3rd lord If Sahaj’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be endowed with happiness through co-born and will have wealth and sons, be cheerful and extremely happy If Sahaj’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will be inimical to his co-born, be affluent, will not be well disposed to his maternal uncle and be dear to his maternal aunt. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be a thief, will derive his livelihood serving others and will die at the gate of the royal palace. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Vyaya, the native will spend on evil deeds, will have a wicked father and will be fortunate through a female. 6th lord If Ari’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be given to anger, be bereft of courage, inimical to all of his co-born and will have disobedient servants. If Ari’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will have enmity with the group of his kinsmen, but be friendly to others and will enjoy mediocre happiness in matters, like wealth. If Ari’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be sickly, inimical, will desire others’ wealth, be interested in others’ wives and be impure. If Ari’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will always spend on vices, be hostile to learned people and will torture living beings. 8th lord If Randhr’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal happiness, be indolent and devoid of servants and strength. If Randhr’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will win over his enemies, be afflicted by diseases and during childhood will incur danger through snakes and water. If Randhr’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be long-lived. If the said Grah is weak, being in Randhr Bhava, the longevity will be medium, while the native will be a thief, be blameworthy and will blame others as well. If Randhr’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will spend on evil deeds and will incur a short life. More so, if there be additionally a malefic in the said Bhava. 12th lord If Vyaya’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal bliss, will hate others and will promote self-nourishment. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will incur enmity with his own men, be given to anger, be sinful, miserable and will go to others’ wives. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will always gain, will speak affably, will enjoy a medium span of life and be endowed with all good qualities. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will only face heavy expenditure, will not have physical felicity, be irritable and spiteful. Legend Positive Results Moderate Results Negative Results Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Dear Members, What if the chart has Vipareeta Yoga and the lords of the dusthana house conjunct in dusthana? For example, I have: Lord of 6th Moon in 8th house Virgo. Also lord of 3rd house Mars in 8th house conjuncting 6th lord moon. What would that imply? Thank you, Prital vedic astrology, Praveen Kumar <chunnu2001@v...> wrote: > Good compilation Mr. Sarajit. I agree 100% that VRY is quiet elusive and need an extremely cautious approach. This is one area where I have to pause and think and I am apprehensive about my interpretations. Anyway, we should investigate further and share our experiences. > > Praveen Kumar > - > Sarajit Poddar > vedic astrology ; varahamihira ; sjcsingapore > 09, 01, 2005 9:50 AM > [vedic astrology] A Fresh look on Vipareeta Rajayoga > > > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Jyotisha, > > > > We all know that vipareeta rajayoga brings a lot of benefit to a native by sudden rise/ sudden benefit. However, this does not come without any cost. Following paragraphs from Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra, writes mostly negative things for the placement of a Dusthana lord in another Dusthana. > > > > Experts might like to comment. > > > > Regards > Sarajit > > > > > 3rd Lord > > 27. If Sahaj's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be endowed with happiness through co-born and will have wealth and sons, be cheerful and extremely happy. > > > > 30. If Sahaj's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will be inimical to his co-born, be affluent, will not be well disposed to his maternal uncle and be dear to his maternal aunt. > > > > 32. If Sahaj's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be a thief, will derive his livelihood serving others and will die at the gate of the royal palace. > > > > 36. If Sahaj's Lord is in Vyaya, the native will spend on evil deeds, will have a wicked father and will be fortunate through a female. > > > > > > 6th Lord > > 63. If Ari's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be given to anger, be bereft of courage, inimical to all of his co-born and will have disobedient servants. > > > > 66. If Ari's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will have enmity with the group of his kinsmen, but be friendly to others and will enjoy mediocre happiness in matters, like wealth. > > > > 68. If Ari's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be sickly, inimical, will desire others' wealth, be interested in others' wives and be impure. > > > > 72. If Ari's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will always spend on vices, be hostile to learned people and will torture living beings. > > > > > > 8th Lord > > 87. If Randhr's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal happiness, be indolent and devoid of servants and strength. > > > > 90. If Randhr's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will win over his enemies, be afflicted by diseases and during childhood will incur danger through snakes and water. > > > > 92. If Randhr's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be long- lived. If the said Grah is weak, being in Randhr Bhava, the longevity will be medium, while the native will be a thief, be blameworthy and will blame others as well. > > > > 96. If Randhr's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will spend on evil deeds and will incur a short life. More so, if there be additionally a malefic in the said Bhava. > > > > > > 12th lord > > 135. If Vyaya's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal bliss, will hate others and will promote self- nourishment. > > > > 138. If Vyaya's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will incur enmity with his own men, be given to anger, be sinful, miserable and will go to others' wives. > > > > 140. If Vyaya's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will always gain, will speak affably, will enjoy a medium span of life and be endowed with all good qualities. > > > > 144. If Vyaya's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will only face heavy expenditure, will not have physical felicity, be irritable and spiteful. > > > > > 3rd lord > 6th lord > 8th lord > 12th lord > > 3rd lord > If Sahaj's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be endowed with happiness through co-born and will have wealth and sons, be cheerful and extremely happy > > > If Sahaj's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will be inimical to his co-born, be affluent, will not be well disposed to his maternal uncle and be dear to his maternal aunt. > If Sahaj's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be a thief, will derive his livelihood serving others and will die at the gate of the royal palace. > If Sahaj's Lord is in Vyaya, the native will spend on evil deeds, will have a wicked father and will be fortunate through a female. > > > > 6th lord > If Ari's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be given to anger, be bereft of courage, inimical to all of his co-born and will have disobedient servants. > > > If Ari's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will have enmity with the group of his kinsmen, but be friendly to others and will enjoy mediocre happiness in matters, like wealth. > > > If Ari's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be sickly, inimical, will desire others' wealth, be interested in others' wives and be impure. > > > If Ari's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will always spend on vices, be hostile to learned people and will torture living beings. > > > > 8th lord > If Randhr's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal happiness, be indolent and devoid of servants and strength. > > > If Randhr's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will win over his enemies, be afflicted by diseases and during childhood will incur danger through snakes and water. > If Randhr's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be long- lived. If the said Grah is weak, being in Randhr Bhava, the longevity will be medium, while the native will be a thief, be blameworthy and will blame others as well. > > > If Randhr's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will spend on evil deeds and will incur a short life. More so, if there be additionally a malefic in the said Bhava. > > > > 12th lord > If Vyaya's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal bliss, will hate others and will promote self- nourishment. > > > If Vyaya's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will incur enmity with his own men, be given to anger, be sinful, miserable and will go to others' wives. > > > If Vyaya's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will always gain, will speak affably, will enjoy a medium span of life and be endowed with all good qualities. > > > If Vyaya's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will only face heavy expenditure, will not have physical felicity, be irritable and spiteful. 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Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Hare Krishna Dear Prital, What do you have in the 3rd and 6th,8th from your arudha lagna? In general, Moon in 8th house is balarista yoga. which can give some life threatening expeiences as a baby or child. With best wishes, Lakshmi vedic astrology, prital_18 wrote: > > > Dear Members, > > What if the chart has Vipareeta Yoga and the lords of the dusthana > house conjunct in dusthana? For example, I have: > > Lord of 6th Moon in 8th house Virgo. Also lord of 3rd house Mars in > 8th house conjuncting 6th lord moon. What would that imply? > > Thank you, > Prital > > > > > vedic astrology, Praveen Kumar > <chunnu2001@v...> wrote: > > Good compilation Mr. Sarajit. I agree 100% that VRY is quiet > elusive and need an extremely cautious approach. This is one area > where I have to pause and think and I am apprehensive about my > interpretations. Anyway, we should investigate further and share our > experiences. > > > > Praveen Kumar > > - > > Sarajit Poddar > > vedic astrology ; > varahamihira ; sjcsingapore > > 09, 01, 2005 9:50 AM > > [vedic astrology] A Fresh look on Vipareeta Rajayoga > > > > > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > Dear Jyotisha, > > > > > > > > We all know that vipareeta rajayoga brings a lot of benefit to a > native by sudden rise/ sudden benefit. However, this does not come > without any cost. Following paragraphs from Brihat Parashara Hora > Shastra, writes mostly negative things for the placement of a > Dusthana lord in another Dusthana. > > > > > > > > Experts might like to comment. > > > > > > > > Regards > > Sarajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd Lord > > > > 27. If Sahaj's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be endowed > with happiness through co-born and will have wealth and sons, be > cheerful and extremely happy. > > > > > > > > 30. If Sahaj's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will be inimical > to his co-born, be affluent, will not be well disposed to his > maternal uncle and be dear to his maternal aunt. > > > > > > > > 32. If Sahaj's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be a > thief, will derive his livelihood serving others and will die at the > gate of the royal palace. > > > > > > > > 36. If Sahaj's Lord is in Vyaya, the native will spend on evil > deeds, will have a wicked father and will be fortunate through a > female. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th Lord > > > > 63. If Ari's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be given to > anger, be bereft of courage, inimical to all of his co-born and will > have disobedient servants. > > > > > > > > 66. If Ari's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will have enmity > with the group of his kinsmen, but be friendly to others and will > enjoy mediocre happiness in matters, like wealth. > > > > > > > > 68. If Ari's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be sickly, > inimical, will desire others' wealth, be interested in others' wives > and be impure. > > > > > > > > 72. If Ari's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will always spend > on vices, be hostile to learned people and will torture living beings. > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th Lord > > > > 87. If Randhr's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid > of fraternal happiness, be indolent and devoid of servants and > strength. > > > > > > > > 90. If Randhr's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will win over > his enemies, be afflicted by diseases and during childhood will incur > danger through snakes and water. > > > > > > > > 92. If Randhr's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be long- > lived. If the said Grah is weak, being in Randhr Bhava, the longevity > will be medium, while the native will be a thief, be blameworthy and > will blame others as well. > > > > > > > > 96. If Randhr's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will spend on > evil deeds and will incur a short life. More so, if there be > additionally a malefic in the said Bhava. > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th lord > > > > 135. If Vyaya's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid > of fraternal bliss, will hate others and will promote self- > nourishment. > > > > > > > > 138. If Vyaya's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will incur > enmity with his own men, be given to anger, be sinful, miserable and > will go to others' wives. > > > > > > > > 140. If Vyaya's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will always > gain, will speak affably, will enjoy a medium span of life and be > endowed with all good qualities. > > > > > > > > 144. If Vyaya's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will only face > heavy expenditure, will not have physical felicity, be irritable and > spiteful. > > > > > > > > > > 3rd lord > > 6th lord > > 8th lord > > 12th lord > > > > 3rd lord > > If Sahaj's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be > endowed with happiness through co-born and will have wealth and sons, > be cheerful and extremely happy > > > > > > If Sahaj's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will be inimical > to his co-born, be affluent, will not be well disposed to his > maternal uncle and be dear to his maternal aunt. > > If Sahaj's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be a > thief, will derive his livelihood serving others and will die at the > gate of the royal palace. > > If Sahaj's Lord is in Vyaya, the native will spend on evil > deeds, will have a wicked father and will be fortunate through a > female. > > > > > > > > 6th lord > > If Ari's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be given to > anger, be bereft of courage, inimical to all of his co-born and will > have disobedient servants. > > > > > > If Ari's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will have enmity > with the group of his kinsmen, but be friendly to others and will > enjoy mediocre happiness in matters, like wealth. > > > > > > If Ari's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be sickly, > inimical, will desire others' wealth, be interested in others' wives > and be impure. > > > > > > If Ari's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will always > spend on vices, be hostile to learned people and will torture living > beings. > > > > > > > > 8th lord > > If Randhr's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be > devoid of fraternal happiness, be indolent and devoid of servants and > strength. > > > > > > If Randhr's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will win over > his enemies, be afflicted by diseases and during childhood will incur > danger through snakes and water. > > If Randhr's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be long- > lived. If the said Grah is weak, being in Randhr Bhava, the longevity > will be medium, while the native will be a thief, be blameworthy and > will blame others as well. > > > > > > If Randhr's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will spend on > evil deeds and will incur a short life. More so, if there be > additionally a malefic in the said Bhava. > > > > > > > > 12th lord > > If Vyaya's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid > of fraternal bliss, will hate others and will promote self- > nourishment. > > > > > > If Vyaya's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will incur > enmity with his own men, be given to anger, be sinful, miserable and > will go to others' wives. > > > > > > If Vyaya's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will always > gain, will speak affably, will enjoy a medium span of life and be > endowed with all good qualities. > > > > > > If Vyaya's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will only face > heavy expenditure, will not have physical felicity, be irritable and > spiteful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Legend > > > > > > Positive Results > > > > > > Moderate Results > > > > > > Negative Results > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Dear Sarajit, You are right, not all the results would necessarily be good. At he same time much would depend on the planets and the Rasi in which they are posited. The basic principle is a Lord of a dusthana in other dusthana is capable of harming some of the ill effects of the Dusthana that it tenants. For a VR yoga to be caused it is preferable that the planet is weak.Better still if there is an exchange of house between the two dusthana Lords. Regards, Chandrashekhar. 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However, this does not come without any cost. Following paragraphs from Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra, writes mostly negative things for the placement of a Dusthana lord in another Dusthana. Experts might like to comment. Regards Sarajit 3rd Lord 27. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be endowed with happiness through co-born and will have wealth and sons, be cheerful and extremely happy. 30. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will be inimical to his co-born, be affluent, will not be well disposed to his maternal uncle and be dear to his maternal aunt. 32. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be a thief, will derive his livelihood serving others and will die at the gate of the royal palace. 36. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Vyaya, the native will spend on evil deeds, will have a wicked father and will be fortunate through a female. 6th Lord 63. If Ari’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be given to anger, be bereft of courage, inimical to all of his co-born and will have disobedient servants. 66. If Ari’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will have enmity with the group of his kinsmen, but be friendly to others and will enjoy mediocre happiness in matters, like wealth. 68. If Ari’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be sickly, inimical, will desire others’ wealth, be interested in others’ wives and be impure. 72. If Ari’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will always spend on vices, be hostile to learned people and will torture living beings. 8th Lord 87. If Randhr’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal happiness, be indolent and devoid of servants and strength. 90. If Randhr’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will win over his enemies, be afflicted by diseases and during childhood will incur danger through snakes and water. 92. If Randhr’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be long-lived. If the said Grah is weak, being in Randhr Bhava, the longevity will be medium, while the native will be a thief, be blameworthy and will blame others as well. 96. If Randhr’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will spend on evil deeds and will incur a short life. More so, if there be additionally a malefic in the said Bhava. 12th lord 135. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal bliss, will hate others and will promote self-nourishment. 138. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will incur enmity with his own men, be given to anger, be sinful, miserable and will go to others’ wives. 140. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will always gain, will speak affably, will enjoy a medium span of life and be endowed with all good qualities. 144. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will only face heavy expenditure, will not have physical felicity, be irritable and spiteful. 3rd lord 6th lord 8th lord 12th lord 3rd lord If Sahaj’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be endowed with happiness through co-born and will have wealth and sons, be cheerful and extremely happy If Sahaj’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will be inimical to his co-born, be affluent, will not be well disposed to his maternal uncle and be dear to his maternal aunt. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be a thief, will derive his livelihood serving others and will die at the gate of the royal palace. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Vyaya, the native will spend on evil deeds, will have a wicked father and will be fortunate through a female. 6th lord If Ari’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be given to anger, be bereft of courage, inimical to all of his co-born and will have disobedient servants. If Ari’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will have enmity with the group of his kinsmen, but be friendly to others and will enjoy mediocre happiness in matters, like wealth. If Ari’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be sickly, inimical, will desire others’ wealth, be interested in others’ wives and be impure. If Ari’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will always spend on vices, be hostile to learned people and will torture living beings. 8th lord If Randhr’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal happiness, be indolent and devoid of servants and strength. If Randhr’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will win over his enemies, be afflicted by diseases and during childhood will incur danger through snakes and water. If Randhr’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be long-lived. If the said Grah is weak, being in Randhr Bhava, the longevity will be medium, while the native will be a thief, be blameworthy and will blame others as well. If Randhr’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will spend on evil deeds and will incur a short life. More so, if there be additionally a malefic in the said Bhava. 12th lord If Vyaya’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal bliss, will hate others and will promote self-nourishment. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will incur enmity with his own men, be given to anger, be sinful, miserable and will go to others’ wives. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will always gain, will speak affably, will enjoy a medium span of life and be endowed with all good qualities. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will only face heavy expenditure, will not have physical felicity, be irritable and spiteful. Legend Positive Results Moderate Results Negative Results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 aum namo bhagavate vasudevaya i have 6th house lord mercury conjunct 8 th house lord sun in 8 th house. i am a capricorn ascendant.it is said in classical texts like brihaspathi hora sastra,that if the lord of ari bahava is in radhra bhava, the native will be harmed by his enemies but i dont have any such experiences in my life during the main and antar dasas of either sun or mercury. right now i am in jupiter dasa. my birth details 09-09-1973 t.o.b 15:22 place vishakhapatnam india (long 83 e 18 lat 17 n 42) > Hi to all > > VRY is a typical yoga, for which there are not many references available > except in UttarKalamrta (by kalidas). By definition, 6th lord, 8th lord and > 12th lord must be placed in another dusthana house (not the same house- e.g. > 6th lord must be in 8th or 12th NOT in 6th) and they must not be associated > with another planet. 3rd lord is not provided in the definition. So the > complete VRY is a rare one. According to the source, I referred, it makes a > man Raja. > > Now the question to be looked into is - will partial VRY (not complying with > the above definition) give any positive outcome ? or the outcome are > basically sarla/vimla yoga NOT the VRY, as we may interpret. As in > astrology, there is no such definition of partial yoga. > > Secondly, most yoga definition and astrological interpretations are also > subject to new interpretations (due to basic change in structure of society > and relationship). For example- 12th lord gives videsh yatra and > residence..hence was considered bad by sages. But in modern age, this > interpretation is fallacious..so is 2ne house, 4th house and so on... and in > my humble view, this shift in environment / yuga / social structure & living > patterns needs to be inducted and fresh look to be given for the karkatva > indicated in reference books. If one chooses to apply this, they will e > surprised by the analysis. > > S far as VRY goes..my chart has 6th lord in 8th, 8th lord in 12th and 12th > lord in 6th...but the absolute definition is in breach for 3rd lord in 8th > too. Though, I may like to believe that it is VRY (perfect one); but by > definition, it is not. Readers may assess it themselves: > March 8, 1967 > 17.40 IST > Jodhpur-Raj(India)- 26N17, 73E04 > > I am willing to share events, to get down to VRY effects, if required. > > Regards/Prafulla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 > aum namo bhagavate vasudevaya > > i have 6th house lord mercury conjunct 8 th house lord sun in 8 th > "If Ari's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be sickly, inimical, will desire others' wealth, be interested in others' wives and be impure" the above paragraph is not true in my case in the sense i am not at all intrested in other's wealth and regarding other's wives,to some extent but that too instantaneous(which is quite common for all those who are actively controlled by their senses)-immediately i get control over my senses.regarding impurity, i am impure because i am born in kaliyuga.i am always in search of liberation. i dont know why i have a strong aversion towards material life but still i am compromising with it? > my birth details > 09-09-1973 t.o.b 15:22 > place vishakhapatnam india (long 83 e 18 lat 17 n 42) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Please write about achievements in dasa of Mercury. Praveen Kumar - ved_ram vedic astrology 10, 01, 2005 9:39 AM [vedic astrology] Re: A Fresh look on Vipareeta Rajayoga aum namo bhagavate vasudevayai have 6th house lord mercury conjunct 8 th house lord sun in 8 th house. i am a capricorn ascendant.it is said in classical texts like brihaspathi hora sastra,that if the lord of ari bahava is in radhra bhava, the native will be harmed by his enemies but i dont have any such experiences in my life during the main and antar dasas of either sun or mercury. right now i am in jupiter dasa.my birth details09-09-1973 t.o.b 15:22place vishakhapatnam india (long 83 e 18 lat 17 n 42)> Hi to all> > VRY is a typical yoga, for which there are not many references available> except in UttarKalamrta (by kalidas). By definition, 6th lord, 8th lord and> 12th lord must be placed in another dusthana house (not the same house- e.g.> 6th lord must be in 8th or 12th NOT in 6th) and they must not be associated> with another planet. 3rd lord is not provided in the definition. So the> complete VRY is a rare one. According to the source, I referred, it makes a> man Raja.> > Now the question to be looked into is - will partial VRY (not complying with> the above definition) give any positive outcome ? or the outcome are> basically sarla/vimla yoga NOT the VRY, as we may interpret. As in> astrology, there is no such definition of partial yoga.> > Secondly, most yoga definition and astrological interpretations are also> subject to new interpretations (due to basic change in structure of society> and relationship). For example- 12th lord gives videsh yatra and> residence..hence was considered bad by sages. But in modern age, this> interpretation is fallacious..so is 2ne house, 4th house and so on... and in> my humble view, this shift in environment / yuga / social structure & living> patterns needs to be inducted and fresh look to be given for the karkatva> indicated in reference books. If one chooses to apply this, they will e> surprised by the analysis.> > S far as VRY goes..my chart has 6th lord in 8th, 8th lord in 12th and 12th> lord in 6th...but the absolute definition is in breach for 3rd lord in 8th> too. Though, I may like to believe that it is VRY (perfect one); but by> definition, it is not. Readers may assess it themselves:> March 8, 1967> 17.40 IST> Jodhpur-Raj(India)- 26N17, 73E04> > I am willing to share events, to get down to VRY effects, if required.> > Regards/PrafullaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 II Om Namo Nrayanaya II Dear Sarajit, Namaste, You r telling that third house is also a doohsthan. Whereas It is known that only 6th, 8th and 12th house is called doohsthan . When lord of these houses occupies any other house of doohsthan then it is called vipreet raja yoga.Whereas 3rd house is an Upachaya Bhava.Occupation of a benefic planet is not considered good in this bhava, on the contrary occupation of malefic planets are considered good in this bhava.In your message you have included 3rd bhava also as a doohsthan.Now I am fixed in confusion.Pls clear my doubt. Regards, Ramesh MishraRamadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Sarajit, Thanks for the quotings from BPHS. Now you know my chart very well. Lagna Makara with 3rd lord Guru in 3rd along with 6th and 9th lord Budha and 8th lord Surya.The only bad thing was I lost my younger brother during his teens.By the Grace of Lord Krishna and Mother Bhuvaneshwari,wealth came to me during Guru- Shukra and then it continued till date.I am working in a Petroleum refinery as a Process Technician and so I have to climb sometimes towers of 30 to 40 Metres height.So I have got sufficient strength to do these jobs.I am not lazy and I have good servant working in my house. So as per me we have to look into Navamsha chart and we have to check Shadbala and Vimshopaka Bala also. I hope this helps. With Shri Hari Vaayu naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Jyotisha, We all know that vipareeta rajayoga brings a lot of benefit to a native by sudden rise/ sudden benefit. However, this does not come without any cost. Following paragraphs from Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra, writes mostly negative things for the placement of a Dusthana lord in another Dusthana. Experts might like to comment. RegardsSarajit 3rd Lord 27. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be endowed with happiness through co-born and will have wealth and sons, be cheerful and extremely happy. 30. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will be inimical to his co-born, be affluent, will not be well disposed to his maternal uncle and be dear to his maternal aunt. 32. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be a thief, will derive his livelihood serving others and will die at the gate of the royal palace. 36. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Vyaya, the native will spend on evil deeds, will have a wicked father and will be fortunate through a female. 6th Lord 63. If Ari’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be given to anger, be bereft of courage, inimical to all of his co-born and will have disobedient servants. 66. If Ari’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will have enmity with the group of his kinsmen, but be friendly to others and will enjoy mediocre happiness in matters, like wealth. 68. If Ari’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be sickly, inimical, will desire others’ wealth, be interested in others’ wives and be impure. 72. If Ari’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will always spend on vices, be hostile to learned people and will torture living beings. 8th Lord 87. If Randhr’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal happiness, be indolent and devoid of servants and strength. 90. If Randhr’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will win over his enemies, be afflicted by diseases and during childhood will incur danger through snakes and water. 92. If Randhr’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be long-lived. If the said Grah is weak, being in Randhr Bhava, the longevity will be medium, while the native will be a thief, be blameworthy and will blame others as well. 96. If Randhr’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will spend on evil deeds and will incur a short life. More so, if there be additionally a malefic in the said Bhava. 12th lord 135. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal bliss, will hate others and will promote self-nourishment. 138. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will incur enmity with his own men, be given to anger, be sinful, miserable and will go to others’ wives. 140. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will always gain, will speak affably, will enjoy a medium span of life and be endowed with all good qualities. 144. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will only face heavy expenditure, will not have physical felicity, be irritable and spiteful. 3rd lord 6th lord 8th lord 12th lord 3rd lord If Sahaj’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be endowed with happiness through co-born and will have wealth and sons, be cheerful and extremely happy If Sahaj’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will be inimical to his co-born, be affluent, will not be well disposed to his maternal uncle and be dear to his maternal aunt. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be a thief, will derive his livelihood serving others and will die at the gate of the royal palace. If Sahaj’s Lord is in Vyaya, the native will spend on evil deeds, will have a wicked father and will be fortunate through a female. 6th lord If Ari’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be given to anger, be bereft of courage, inimical to all of his co-born and will have disobedient servants. If Ari’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will have enmity with the group of his kinsmen, but be friendly to others and will enjoy mediocre happiness in matters, like wealth. If Ari’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be sickly, inimical, will desire others’ wealth, be interested in others’ wives and be impure. If Ari’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will always spend on vices, be hostile to learned people and will torture living beings. 8th lord If Randhr’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal happiness, be indolent and devoid of servants and strength. If Randhr’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will win over his enemies, be afflicted by diseases and during childhood will incur danger through snakes and water. If Randhr’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be long-lived. If the said Grah is weak, being in Randhr Bhava, the longevity will be medium, while the native will be a thief, be blameworthy and will blame others as well. If Randhr’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will spend on evil deeds and will incur a short life. More so, if there be additionally a malefic in the said Bhava. 12th lord If Vyaya’s Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal bliss, will hate others and will promote self-nourishment. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will incur enmity with his own men, be given to anger, be sinful, miserable and will go to others’ wives. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will always gain, will speak affably, will enjoy a medium span of life and be endowed with all good qualities. If Vyaya’s Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will only face heavy expenditure, will not have physical felicity, be irritable and spiteful. Legend Positive Results Moderate Results Negative Results |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. 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Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Hello Lakshmiji, >From AL, I have Ketu in 3rd, and Mercury in 8th (own house of Gemini). And as a young child, I did not face any dangerous/life threatening experiences. And I was quite a healthy child. Is it possible that this could apply to my kids? Since lord of the 8th Mercury is in 5th house from lagna? Prital vedic astrology, "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary> wrote: > > Hare Krishna > Dear Prital, > What do you have in the 3rd and 6th,8th from your arudha lagna? > In general, Moon in 8th house is balarista yoga. which can give some > life threatening expeiences as a baby or child. > With best wishes, > Lakshmi > vedic astrology, prital_18 wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > What if the chart has Vipareeta Yoga and the lords of the dusthana > > house conjunct in dusthana? For example, I have: > > > > Lord of 6th Moon in 8th house Virgo. Also lord of 3rd house Mars > in > > 8th house conjuncting 6th lord moon. What would that imply? > > > > Thank you, > > Prital > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Praveen Kumar > > <chunnu2001@v...> wrote: > > > Good compilation Mr. Sarajit. I agree 100% that VRY is quiet > > elusive and need an extremely cautious approach. This is one area > > where I have to pause and think and I am apprehensive about my > > interpretations. Anyway, we should investigate further and share > our > > experiences. > > > > > > Praveen Kumar > > > - > > > Sarajit Poddar > > > vedic astrology ; > > varahamihira ; sjcsingapore > > > 09, 01, 2005 9:50 AM > > > [vedic astrology] A Fresh look on Vipareeta Rajayoga > > > > > > > > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > > Dear Jyotisha, > > > > > > > > > > > > We all know that vipareeta rajayoga brings a lot of benefit to > a > > native by sudden rise/ sudden benefit. However, this does not come > > without any cost. Following paragraphs from Brihat Parashara Hora > > Shastra, writes mostly negative things for the placement of a > > Dusthana lord in another Dusthana. > > > > > > > > > > > > Experts might like to comment. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Sarajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd Lord > > > > > > 27. If Sahaj's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be > endowed > > with happiness through co-born and will have wealth and sons, be > > cheerful and extremely happy. > > > > > > > > > > > > 30. If Sahaj's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will be > inimical > > to his co-born, be affluent, will not be well disposed to his > > maternal uncle and be dear to his maternal aunt. > > > > > > > > > > > > 32. If Sahaj's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be a > > thief, will derive his livelihood serving others and will die at > the > > gate of the royal palace. > > > > > > > > > > > > 36. If Sahaj's Lord is in Vyaya, the native will spend on evil > > deeds, will have a wicked father and will be fortunate through a > > female. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th Lord > > > > > > 63. If Ari's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be given > to > > anger, be bereft of courage, inimical to all of his co-born and > will > > have disobedient servants. > > > > > > > > > > > > 66. If Ari's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will have enmity > > with the group of his kinsmen, but be friendly to others and will > > enjoy mediocre happiness in matters, like wealth. > > > > > > > > > > > > 68. If Ari's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be > sickly, > > inimical, will desire others' wealth, be interested in others' > wives > > and be impure. > > > > > > > > > > > > 72. If Ari's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will always > spend > > on vices, be hostile to learned people and will torture living > beings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th Lord > > > > > > 87. If Randhr's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be > devoid > > of fraternal happiness, be indolent and devoid of servants and > > strength. > > > > > > > > > > > > 90. If Randhr's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will win over > > his enemies, be afflicted by diseases and during childhood will > incur > > danger through snakes and water. > > > > > > > > > > > > 92. If Randhr's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be > long- > > lived. If the said Grah is weak, being in Randhr Bhava, the > longevity > > will be medium, while the native will be a thief, be blameworthy > and > > will blame others as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > 96. If Randhr's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will spend > on > > evil deeds and will incur a short life. More so, if there be > > additionally a malefic in the said Bhava. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th lord > > > > > > 135. If Vyaya's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be > devoid > > of fraternal bliss, will hate others and will promote self- > > nourishment. > > > > > > > > > > > > 138. If Vyaya's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will incur > > enmity with his own men, be given to anger, be sinful, miserable > and > > will go to others' wives. > > > > > > > > > > > > 140. If Vyaya's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will > always > > gain, will speak affably, will enjoy a medium span of life and be > > endowed with all good qualities. > > > > > > > > > > > > 144. If Vyaya's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will only > face > > heavy expenditure, will not have physical felicity, be irritable > and > > spiteful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd lord > > > 6th lord > > > 8th lord > > > 12th lord > > > > > > 3rd lord > > > If Sahaj's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be > > endowed with happiness through co-born and will have wealth and > sons, > > be cheerful and extremely happy > > > > > > > > > If Sahaj's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will be > inimical > > to his co-born, be affluent, will not be well disposed to his > > maternal uncle and be dear to his maternal aunt. > > > If Sahaj's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be a > > thief, will derive his livelihood serving others and will die at > the > > gate of the royal palace. > > > If Sahaj's Lord is in Vyaya, the native will spend on > evil > > deeds, will have a wicked father and will be fortunate through a > > female. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th lord > > > If Ari's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be given > to > > anger, be bereft of courage, inimical to all of his co-born and > will > > have disobedient servants. > > > > > > > > > If Ari's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will have > enmity > > with the group of his kinsmen, but be friendly to others and will > > enjoy mediocre happiness in matters, like wealth. > > > > > > > > > If Ari's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be > sickly, > > inimical, will desire others' wealth, be interested in others' > wives > > and be impure. > > > > > > > > > If Ari's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will always > > spend on vices, be hostile to learned people and will torture > living > > beings. > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th lord > > > If Randhr's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be > > devoid of fraternal happiness, be indolent and devoid of servants > and > > strength. > > > > > > > > > If Randhr's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will win > over > > his enemies, be afflicted by diseases and during childhood will > incur > > danger through snakes and water. > > > If Randhr's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be > long- > > lived. If the said Grah is weak, being in Randhr Bhava, the > longevity > > will be medium, while the native will be a thief, be blameworthy > and > > will blame others as well. > > > > > > > > > If Randhr's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will spend > on > > evil deeds and will incur a short life. More so, if there be > > additionally a malefic in the said Bhava. > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th lord > > > If Vyaya's Lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be > devoid > > of fraternal bliss, will hate others and will promote self- > > nourishment. > > > > > > > > > If Vyaya's Lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will incur > > enmity with his own men, be given to anger, be sinful, miserable > and > > will go to others' wives. > > > > > > > > > If Vyaya's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will > always > > gain, will speak affably, will enjoy a medium span of life and be > > endowed with all good qualities. > > > > > > > > > If Vyaya's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will only > face > > heavy expenditure, will not have physical felicity, be irritable > and > > spiteful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Legend > > > > > > > > > Positive Results > > > > > > > > > Moderate Results > > > > > > > > > Negative Results > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... 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