Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with the same horoscopic destiny ?

[Guest guest]

Hare Rama Krishna

 

Dear Friends,

 

To this burning topic (Yajna!), i like to add fuel.

 

What is the role of Grma devata (shakti form, i think)? Any comments?

 

regards

viswanadham

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Namasthe

 

I beleive you shall be intersted in analysing this. On 21-Aug-1999 at

16.30 three young poojaris (Archakas) died together due to drowning in

a temple pond. I had managed to get their Horoscopes. Usualy no one

reads the horoscope of dead persons(Traditionaly). But I believe , In

order to get more knowledge one may have to conduct a post mortem.

 

These were graduates and well versed in agamas and extremely pious boys.

 

(1) DOB:30-03-79, TOB:3.00 AM, Place:Cochin(9.58N,76.17E)

(2) DOB:16-01-78, TOB:7.15 AM, Place:Trichur (10.30N,76.15E)

(3) DOB:28-07-1974,TOB:10.05 AM, Place :Cochin(9.58N,76.17E)

 

The Comments and insights from the learned members shall be highly

helpfull to others particularly regarding deaths of many together,

though there is no comparison between the recent tragedy and this

incident.

 

Suresh Babu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

>

> -

> "Sukumar Vijayanand" <vijayanand.sukumar@g...>

> <vedic astrology-owner>

> Thursday, January 06, 2005 1:28 AM

> Re: Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with the same horoscopic

> destiny ?

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Jay,

> > According to the astrolger Rajagopalan who is followed by many

> > thousands in Tamil Nadu, there are certain periods of time everyday

> > where the astrological calculations/effects do not work. These

> > periods differ from few seconds to even few hours in certain days.

> >

> > That is when these diasters can take place. If you think about it,

> > the whole concept to astrology works if equilibrium exists in the

> > solar syste

 

m(The same concept by which the law of physics only work

> > in a equilibrium). If the Equilibrium itself is changed then the

> > calculations will be based on a much higher equilibrium of that of

> > the universe.

> >

> > Further it is the law of the nature(god) to destroy and create the

> > universe itself. The world is going to destroyed one day by the aging

> > sun, irrespective of the individual karma of each habitat probably

> > because it is the earth's turn in the mega scheme of things to be

> > destroyed.

> >

> > If your friend is still not convinced give the chart to a very very

> > good astrologer( I would recommend A.M. Rajagopalan from madras) and

> > see for himself the predictions.

> >

> > As we know astrology is a predictive science not a fatalystic science

> > as one can change the future course of events because of past karma

> > by the present action to a situation.

> >

> > - Vijay

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Jay Weiss" <jayhw@t...>

> > wrote:

> >> Dear All,

> >>

> >> Today I recieved the following mail from a friend of mine (the same

> > person asked a similar question after the Sep-11th event).

> >> This is very challanging for many God believers around the world

> > and even more for the astrological community.

> >> Please read this short mail below and comment if you have anything

> > of interest.

> >>

> >> My reply to him was simple: "I don't know - I have no answer to

> > that as it is beyond me"

> >> Regards

> >> /Jay Weiss

> >>

> >> ===============Mail==================

> >> <jayhw@t...>

> >> Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:12 PM

> >> Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with the same horoscopic

> > destiny ?

> >>

> >> Hi Jay,

> >>

> >> Didn't rest my mind since the September 11th disaster with regard

> > to our "collective destiny" mail exchange, and now this horrible

> > Tsunami in South-East Asia which took more than 60000 lives of people

> > from different countries and nationalities; adults as children and

> > babies alike.

> >> How can you or any of your astrologer friends explain this

> > astrologically ?

> >> Did all those individuals have the same death sentence / destiny in

> > their charts ?

> >> There is no way astrology can explain that just as there was no

> > astrologer in the entire world who could predict and warn of such a

> > disaster on December 26, which by the way suppose to be a Christian

> > religious holiday.

> >> What does God (?) have to say to that ?

> >>

> >> Isn't it about time to discard all the astrological nonsense once

> > and for all ?

> >> Can you produce a sound logical explanation this time ?

> >> I doubt it!

> >>

> >> I hope my harsh words will not affect our friendship.

> >> All the best

> >> R.

> >> (Jay: name was removed by me)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Suresh Babu, Namaste,

Where did this sad event happen?

Thanks and Regards, Sabri.

 

vedic astrology, "sureshbabuag"

<sureshbabuag> wrote:

>

> Namasthe

>

> I beleive you shall be intersted in analysing this. On 21-Aug-1999

at

> 16.30 three young poojaris (Archakas) died together due to

drowning in

> a temple pond. I had managed to get their Horoscopes. Usualy no one

> reads the horoscope of dead persons(Traditionaly). But I believe ,

In

> order to get more knowledge one may have to conduct a post mortem.

>

> These were graduates and well versed in agamas and extremely pious

boys.

>

> (1) DOB:30-03-79, TOB:3.00 AM, Place:Cochin(9.58N,76.17E)

> (2) DOB:16-01-78, TOB:7.15 AM, Place:Trichur (10.30N,76.15E)

> (3) DOB:28-07-1974,TOB:10.05 AM, Place :Cochin(9.58N,76.17E)

>

> The Comments and insights from the learned members shall be highly

> helpfull to others particularly regarding deaths of many together,

> though there is no comparison between the recent tragedy and this

> incident.

>

> Suresh Babu

>

>

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> <pvr@c...> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > "Sukumar Vijayanand" <vijayanand.sukumar@g...>

> > <vedic astrology-owner>

> > Thursday, January 06, 2005 1:28 AM

> > Re: Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with the same

horoscopic

> > destiny ?

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Jay,

> > > According to the astrolger Rajagopalan who is followed by many

> > > thousands in Tamil Nadu, there are certain periods of time

everyday

> > > where the astrological calculations/effects do not work. These

> > > periods differ from few seconds to even few hours in certain

days.

> > >

> > > That is when these diasters can take place. If you think about

it,

> > > the whole concept to astrology works if equilibrium exists in

the

> > > solar syste

>

> m(The same concept by which the law of physics only work

> > > in a equilibrium). If the Equilibrium itself is changed then

the

> > > calculations will be based on a much higher equilibrium of

that of

> > > the universe.

> > >

> > > Further it is the law of the nature(god) to destroy and create

the

> > > universe itself. The world is going to destroyed one day by

the aging

> > > sun, irrespective of the individual karma of each habitat

probably

> > > because it is the earth's turn in the mega scheme of things to

be

> > > destroyed.

> > >

> > > If your friend is still not convinced give the chart to a very

very

> > > good astrologer( I would recommend A.M. Rajagopalan from

madras) and

> > > see for himself the predictions.

> > >

> > > As we know astrology is a predictive science not a fatalystic

science

> > > as one can change the future course of events because of past

karma

> > > by the present action to a situation.

> > >

> > > - Vijay

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Jay Weiss"

<jayhw@t...>

> > > wrote:

> > >> Dear All,

> > >>

> > >> Today I recieved the following mail from a friend of mine

(the same

> > > person asked a similar question after the Sep-11th event).

> > >> This is very challanging for many God believers around the

world

> > > and even more for the astrological community.

> > >> Please read this short mail below and comment if you have

anything

> > > of interest.

> > >>

> > >> My reply to him was simple: "I don't know - I have no answer

to

> > > that as it is beyond me"

> > >> Regards

> > >> /Jay Weiss

> > >>

> > >> ===============Mail==================

> > >> <jayhw@t...>

> > >> Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:12 PM

> > >> Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with the same

horoscopic

> > > destiny ?

> > >>

> > >> Hi Jay,

> > >>

> > >> Didn't rest my mind since the September 11th disaster with

regard

> > > to our "collective destiny" mail exchange, and now this

horrible

> > > Tsunami in South-East Asia which took more than 60000 lives of

people

> > > from different countries and nationalities; adults as children

and

> > > babies alike.

> > >> How can you or any of your astrologer friends explain this

> > > astrologically ?

> > >> Did all those individuals have the same death sentence /

destiny in

> > > their charts ?

> > >> There is no way astrology can explain that just as there was

no

> > > astrologer in the entire world who could predict and warn of

such a

> > > disaster on December 26, which by the way suppose to be a

Christian

> > > religious holiday.

> > >> What does God (?) have to say to that ?

> > >>

> > >> Isn't it about time to discard all the astrological nonsense

once

> > > and for all ?

> > >> Can you produce a sound logical explanation this time ?

> > >> I doubt it!

> > >>

> > >> I hope my harsh words will not affect our friendship.

> > >> All the best

> > >> R.

> > >> (Jay: name was removed by me)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Members,

I would like to poke my nose in this subject.I think

that this kind of results occur like death of many persons in same

place for same conditions is due to Varshphala of a

country.Moreover, persons died can have Maraka dasa whether Mahadasa

or Antar Dasa or Pratyantar dasa .As sometimes we find people being

saved from a dangerous calamity where thousands of people are

dying.In this case we must consider both Varshaphala and charts for

respectives natives.

I hope other learned members shall throw some light to

expalin this matter very well.

Thanking You,

gaurav ghosh.

 

 

vedic astrology, "Sabri" <korua@e...> wrote:

>

> Dear Suresh Babu, Namaste,

> Where did this sad event happen?

> Thanks and Regards, Sabri.

>

> vedic astrology, "sureshbabuag"

> <sureshbabuag> wrote:

> >

> > Namasthe

> >

> > I beleive you shall be intersted in analysing this. On 21-Aug-

1999

> at

> > 16.30 three young poojaris (Archakas) died together due to

> drowning in

> > a temple pond. I had managed to get their Horoscopes. Usualy no

one

> > reads the horoscope of dead persons(Traditionaly). But I

believe ,

> In

> > order to get more knowledge one may have to conduct a post

mortem.

> >

> > These were graduates and well versed in agamas and extremely

pious

> boys.

> >

> > (1) DOB:30-03-79, TOB:3.00 AM, Place:Cochin(9.58N,76.17E)

> > (2) DOB:16-01-78, TOB:7.15 AM, Place:Trichur (10.30N,76.15E)

> > (3) DOB:28-07-1974,TOB:10.05 AM, Place :Cochin(9.58N,76.17E)

> >

> > The Comments and insights from the learned members shall be

highly

> > helpfull to others particularly regarding deaths of many

together,

> > though there is no comparison between the recent tragedy and this

> > incident.

> >

> > Suresh Babu

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> > <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > "Sukumar Vijayanand" <vijayanand.sukumar@g...>

> > > <vedic astrology-owner>

> > > Thursday, January 06, 2005 1:28 AM

> > > Re: Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with the same

> horoscopic

> > > destiny ?

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Jay,

> > > > According to the astrolger Rajagopalan who is followed by

many

> > > > thousands in Tamil Nadu, there are certain periods of time

> everyday

> > > > where the astrological calculations/effects do not work.

These

> > > > periods differ from few seconds to even few hours in certain

> days.

> > > >

> > > > That is when these diasters can take place. If you think

about

> it,

> > > > the whole concept to astrology works if equilibrium exists

in

> the

> > > > solar syste

> >

> > m(The same concept by which the law of physics only work

> > > > in a equilibrium). If the Equilibrium itself is changed then

> the

> > > > calculations will be based on a much higher equilibrium of

> that of

> > > > the universe.

> > > >

> > > > Further it is the law of the nature(god) to destroy and

create

> the

> > > > universe itself. The world is going to destroyed one day by

> the aging

> > > > sun, irrespective of the individual karma of each habitat

> probably

> > > > because it is the earth's turn in the mega scheme of things

to

> be

> > > > destroyed.

> > > >

> > > > If your friend is still not convinced give the chart to a

very

> very

> > > > good astrologer( I would recommend A.M. Rajagopalan from

> madras) and

> > > > see for himself the predictions.

> > > >

> > > > As we know astrology is a predictive science not a

fatalystic

> science

> > > > as one can change the future course of events because of

past

> karma

> > > > by the present action to a situation.

> > > >

> > > > - Vijay

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Jay Weiss"

> <jayhw@t...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > >> Dear All,

> > > >>

> > > >> Today I recieved the following mail from a friend of mine

> (the same

> > > > person asked a similar question after the Sep-11th event).

> > > >> This is very challanging for many God believers around the

> world

> > > > and even more for the astrological community.

> > > >> Please read this short mail below and comment if you have

> anything

> > > > of interest.

> > > >>

> > > >> My reply to him was simple: "I don't know - I have no

answer

> to

> > > > that as it is beyond me"

> > > >> Regards

> > > >> /Jay Weiss

> > > >>

> > > >> ===============Mail==================

> > > >> <jayhw@t...>

> > > >> Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:12 PM

> > > >> Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with the same

> horoscopic

> > > > destiny ?

> > > >>

> > > >> Hi Jay,

> > > >>

> > > >> Didn't rest my mind since the September 11th disaster with

> regard

> > > > to our "collective destiny" mail exchange, and now this

> horrible

> > > > Tsunami in South-East Asia which took more than 60000 lives

of

> people

> > > > from different countries and nationalities; adults as

children

> and

> > > > babies alike.

> > > >> How can you or any of your astrologer friends explain this

> > > > astrologically ?

> > > >> Did all those individuals have the same death sentence /

> destiny in

> > > > their charts ?

> > > >> There is no way astrology can explain that just as there

was

> no

> > > > astrologer in the entire world who could predict and warn of

> such a

> > > > disaster on December 26, which by the way suppose to be a

> Christian

> > > > religious holiday.

> > > >> What does God (?) have to say to that ?

> > > >>

> > > >> Isn't it about time to discard all the astrological

nonsense

> once

> > > > and for all ?

> > > >> Can you produce a sound logical explanation this time ?

> > > >> I doubt it!

> > > >>

> > > >> I hope my harsh words will not affect our friendship.

> > > >> All the best

> > > >> R.

> > > >> (Jay: name was removed by me)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >