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Hora Sastra / Jyothish mainly deals with the mortals / living beings with

Jevatmans who are destined to live and lost after completion of their Karma,

merge with Graghas, again reborn, time and again and live their life up to

their Karma.

However a little / nothing is said about Living beings with more Paramans in

them. They live and after completion of their mission merge in Graghas at the

time of great destruction.

We experience many forces of great destructions caused by Earth Quacks, Volcanic

Eruptions, Tsunami etc., where innumerable lives are lost, with Jyothish

knowledge one should reconcile that Paramans were predominant in the lost lives

that they merged in Graghas which they belonged, after completion of their

worldly missions.

The difference between the two categories living beings could be ascertained

from the following BPHS paragraphs: -

Ch. 2. Great Incarnations

8-13. "The beings with more Jivatmâñú are (mortal) beings. The high degree of

Paramatmâñú from the Grahas, viz. Sûrya etc. did incarnate, as Ram, Krishn etc.

After completing the mission, the Paramatmâñúas (of the respective) Grahas again

merge (in the respective) Grahas. The Jivatma portions from the Grahas take

births, as human beings and live their lives according to their Karmas and

again merge in the Grahas. And at the time of Great Destruction the Grahas as

well merge in Lord Vishnu. The one, who knows of all these, will become versed

in the knowledge of the past, present and future. Without a knowledge of

Jyotish these cannot be known. Hence, everyone should have a knowledge of

Jyotish, particularly the Brahmin. The one, who, devoid of knowledge of

Jyotish, blames this Vedic Science will go to the hell called ‘Raurava’ and

will be reborn blind".

Hence all those who lost their lives in the Tsunami had the similarity of Paramans in them.

 

Sabri <korua (AT) efes (DOT) net.tr> wrote:

Dear Friends,I myself personally beleive there is likelihood that indeed death

was indicated in all the horoscopes of these souls who have left this world.

What keeps us from thinking like this, is the high number involved, and the

seeminly unlikely coincidence connected with the fact that all this happened at

the same time. But let's think about the whole galactic universe, and all the

immense multitude of so many things organized and arranged in perfect order by

a supernatural power we call God. For Him and His powers, I guess this is

possible. Also let's think about one single horoscope and how that horoscope

explains thousands of events in ones life, this again is symmetry and

arrangement (e.g. the person is born in such a moment to have such a chart--

with Grahas in the skies placed as such-- that explains so many

things in many years to come), if this is possible, which seems to be so, why

not the other? If one comes to think like this, Jyotish in itself is hard to

beleive, but we know that Jyotish is a reality, and works.Best wishes,

Sabri.P.S. I ofcourse respect and accept the views that under certain

conditions individual horoscopes do not apply, but this is how I feel and

beleive.vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:> > - > "Sukumar Vijayanand"

<vijayanand.sukumar@g...>> <vedic astrology-owner>> Sent:

Thursday, January 06, 2005 1:28 AM> Re: Over 60000 dead in Tsunami -

all with the same horoscopic > destiny ?> > > >> >> >> > Dear Jay,> > According

to the astrolger Rajagopalan who is followed by

many> > thousands in Tamil Nadu, there are certain periods of time everyday> >

where the astrological calculations/effects do not work. These> > periods

differ from few seconds to even few hours in certain days.> >> > That is when

these diasters can take place. If you think about it,> > the whole concept to

astrology works if equilibrium exists in the> > solar system(The same concept

by which the law of physics only work> > in a equilibrium). If the Equilibrium

itself is changed then the> > calculations will be based on a much higher

equilibrium of that of> > the universe.> >> > Further it is the law of the

nature(god) to destroy and create the> > universe itself. The world is going to

destroyed one day by the aging> > sun, irrespective of the individual karma of

each habitat probably> > because it is

the earth's turn in the mega scheme of things to be> > destroyed.> >> > If your

friend is still not convinced give the chart to a very very> > good astrologer(

I would recommend A.M. Rajagopalan from madras) and> > see for himself the

predictions.> >> > As we know astrology is a predictive science not a

fatalystic science> > as one can change the future course of events because of

past karma> > by the present action to a situation.> >> > - Vijay> >> >> >> >

vedic astrology, "Jay Weiss" <jayhw@t...>> > wrote:> >>

Dear All,> >>> >> Today I recieved the following mail from a friend of mine

(the same> > person asked a similar question after the Sep-11th event).> >>

This is very challanging for many God believers around

the world> > and even more for the astrological community.> >> Please read this

short mail below and comment if you have anything> > of interest.> >>> >> My

reply to him was simple: "I don't know - I have no answer to> > that as it is

beyond me"> >> Regards> >> /Jay Weiss> >>> >>

===============Mail==================> >> <jayhw@t...>> >> Tuesday,

December 28, 2004 9:12 PM> >> Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with

the same horoscopic> > destiny ?> >>> >> Hi Jay,> >>> >> Didn't rest my mind

since the September 11th disaster with regard> > to our "collective destiny"

mail exchange, and now this horrible> > Tsunami in South-East Asia which took

more than 60000 lives of people> > from different

countries and nationalities; adults as children and> > babies alike.> >> How can

you or any of your astrologer friends explain this> > astrologically ?> >> Did

all those individuals have the same death sentence / destiny in> > their charts

?> >> There is no way astrology can explain that just as there was no> >

astrologer in the entire world who could predict and warn of such a> > disaster

on December 26, which by the way suppose to be a Christian> > religious

holiday.> >> What does God (?) have to say to that ?> >>> >> Isn't it about

time to discard all the astrological nonsense once> > and for all ?> >> Can you

produce a sound logical explanation this time ?> >> I doubt it!> >>> >> I hope

my harsh words will not affect our friendship.> >> All the

best> >> R.> >> (Jay: name was removed by me)> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Archives:

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Dear Group

 

This is my first comment on the Tsunami. Many have enquired whether

astrology has failed to answer the question that how can 1,50,000

people die with different horoscopes.

My comments

a) There were many survivors in the mass destruction, including

children, women and disabled

b) Many coastal towns in andhra were hardly one or two kilometeres

from the nearest devastation town. So is the case for many countries

c) All the souls that exited during this tragedy were destined to

leave the body during this time. If we collect the charts, we can

explain for each and every individual why he died

d) Why attention is not being paid to survivors, or infants that were

not washed away. Cannot the 30 Meter High wave destroy a small infant

of 3 months, what is so special about the infants who escaped.

e) It is the soul which decides when to die. So whoever had died had

already decided to quit. Shoola dasa of all the people should show

exit. All means all.

 

best wishes

partha

 

 

 

On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 05:12:06 +0000 (GMT), Dhananjayan Brahma

<abhanaya wrote:

>

>

> Hora Sastra / Jyothish mainly deals with the mortals / living beings with

> Jevatmans who are destined to live and lost after completion of their Karma,

> merge with Graghas, again reborn, time and again and live their life up to

> their Karma.

>

> However a little / nothing is said about Living beings with more Paramans in

> them. They live and after completion of their mission merge in Graghas at

> the time of great destruction.

>

> We experience many forces of great destructions caused by Earth Quacks,

> Volcanic Eruptions, Tsunami etc., where innumerable lives are lost, with

> Jyothish knowledge one should reconcile that Paramans were predominant in

> the lost lives that they merged in Graghas which they belonged, after

> completion of their worldly missions.

>

> The difference between the two categories living beings could be ascertained

> from the following BPHS paragraphs: -

>

> Ch. 2. Great Incarnations

>

> 8-13. "The beings with more Jivatmâñú are (mortal) beings. The high degree

> of Paramatmâñú from the Grahas, viz. Sûrya etc. did incarnate, as Ram,

> Krishn etc. After completing the mission, the Paramatmâñúas (of the

> respective) Grahas again merge (in the respective) Grahas. The Jivatma

> portions from the Grahas take births, as human beings and live their lives

> according to their Karmas and again merge in the Grahas. And at the time of

> Great Destruction the Grahas as well merge in Lord Vishnu. The one, who

> knows of all these, will become versed in the knowledge of the past, present

> and future. Without a knowledge of Jyotish these cannot be known. Hence,

> everyone should have a knowledge of Jyotish, particularly the Brahmin. The

> one, who, devoid of knowledge of Jyotish, blames this Vedic Science will go

> to the hell called 'Raurava' and will be reborn blind".

>

> Hence all those who lost their lives in the Tsunami had the similarity of

> Paramans in them.

Sabri <korua wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> I myself personally beleive there is likelihood that indeed death

> was indicated in all the horoscopes of these souls who have left

> this world. What keeps us from thinking like this, is the high

> number involved, and the seeminly unlikely coincidence connected

> with the fact that all this happened at the same time. But let's

> think about the whole galactic universe, and all the immense

> multitude of so many things organized and arranged in perfect order

> by a supernatural power we call God. For Him and His powers, I guess

> this is possible. Also let's think about one single horoscope and

> how that horoscope explains thousands of events in ones life, this

> again is symmetry and arrangement (e.g. the person is born in such a

> moment to have such a chart-- with Grahas in the skies placed as

> such-- that explains so many things in many years to come), if this

> is possible, which seems to be so, why not the other? If one comes

> to think like this, Jyotish in itself is hard to beleive, but we

> know that Jyotish is a reality, and works.

>

> Best wishes, Sabri.

> P.S. I ofcourse respect and accept the views that under certain

> conditions individual horoscopes do not apply, but this is how I

> feel and beleive.

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> <pvr@c...> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > "Sukumar Vijayanand" <vijayanand.sukumar@g...>

> > <vedic astrology-owner>

> > Thursday, January 06, 2005 1:28 AM

> > Re: Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with the same

> horoscopic

> > destiny ?

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Jay,

> > > According to the astrolger Rajagopalan who is followed by many

> > > thousands in Tamil Nadu, there are certain periods of time

> everyday

> > > where the astrological calculations/effects do not work. These

> > > periods differ from few seconds to even few hours in certain

> days.

> > >

> > > That is when these diasters can take place. If you think about

> it,

> > > the whole concept to astrology works if equilibrium exists in the

> > > solar system(The same concept by which the law of physics only

> work

> > > in a equilibrium). If the Equilibrium itself is changed then the

> > > calculations will be based on a much higher equilibrium of that

> of

> > > the universe.

> > >

> > > Further it is the law of the nature(god) to destroy and create

> the

> > > universe itself. The world is going to destroyed one day by the

> aging

> > > sun, irrespective of the individual karma of each habitat

> probably

> > > because it is the earth's turn in the mega scheme of things to be

> > > destroyed.

> > >

> > > If your friend is still not convinced give the chart to a very

> very

> > > good astrologer( I would recommend A.M. Rajagopalan from madras)

> and

> > > see for himself the predictions.

> > >

> > > As we know astrology is a predictive science not a fatalystic

> science

> > > as one can change the future course of events because of past

> karma

> > > by the present action to a situation.

> > >

> > > - Vijay

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Jay Weiss" <jayhw@t...>

> > > wrote:

> > >> Dear All,

> > >>

> > >> Today I recieved the following mail from a friend of mine (the

> same

> > > person asked a similar question after the Sep-11th event).

> > >> This is very challanging for many God believers around the world

> > > and even more for the astrological community.

> > >> Please read this short mail below and comment if you have

> anything

> > > of interest.

> > >>

> > >> My reply to him was simple: "I don't know - I have no answer to

> > > that as it is beyond me"

> > >> Regards

> > >> /Jay Weiss

> > >>

> > >> ===============Mail==================

> > >> <jayhw@t...>

> > >> Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:12 PM

> > >> Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with the same

> horoscopic

> > > destiny ?

> > >>

> > >> Hi Jay,

> > >>

> > >> Didn't rest my mind since the September 11th disaster with

> regard

> > > to our "collective destiny" mail exchange, and now this horrible

> > > Tsunami in South-East Asia which took more than 60000 lives of

> people

> > > from different countries and nationalities; adults as children

> and

> > > babies alike.

> > >> How can you or any of your astrologer friends explain this

> > > astrologically ?

> > >> Did all those individuals have the same death sentence /

> destiny in

> > > their charts ?

> > >> There is no way astrology can explain that just as there was no

> > > astrologer in the entire world who could predict and warn of

> such a

> > > disaster on December 26, which by the way suppose to be a

> Christian

> > > religious holiday.

> > >> What does God (?) have to say to that ?

> > >>

> > >> Isn't it about time to discard all the astrological nonsense

> once

> > > and for all ?

> > >> Can you produce a sound logical explanation this time ?

> > >> I doubt it!

> > >>

> > >> I hope my harsh words will not affect our friendship.

> > >> All the best

> > >> R.

> > >> (Jay: name was removed by me)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

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