Guest guest Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 Dear Tatvam – Asi , I appreciate your post. It has kindled interest in realizing need to reassess methods employed by astrologers .The principle used is basic and as thumb rule is good. But question remains when where and how much intensity of Earthquake will strike?. Astrology is a discipline of great importance and like me and you, many might be wondering why not Astrologer meet and workout to predict Earthquakes in advance to make people aware of possibility of impending danger. As many of us know excellent groundwork is already done by Dr B.V.Raman, Sri Kelkar and some others. It will be wonderful if in these days of knowledge sharing Seminars or workshops are planned and organized by savants to develop or explore methods on predictions of Earthquakes SO humanity gets the advantage of Vedic- knowledge in saving of life and property. To start with I shall post my notes on predicting earthquakes, that I am searching for in hope of any help or to kindle interest. Thanking sri Tatvam-Asi once again for calling basic attention to elite on this board. Hope savants will consider my suggestion in spirit of kindness. OM TAT SAT Original message Learned friends,Breaking self imposed mauna for Margashirsha, The following is posted.Self is too much pained to post this prediction which is reproduced here.It is reproduced not to show that it shows self's predictive correctness, BUT AS AN ANSWER TO CRITICS OF THIS GREAT SCIENCE WHO CALL ASTROLOGY AS HUMBUG.IT IS TO SHOW THAT ASTROLOGERS HAVE TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY.Please remember, that when this was made in June this year, neither Kanchi seer and Math were anywhere near mind nor so many accidents, disasters were anticipated by anyone.But Saturn had his own designs.THE POSTING IS REPRODUCED AS UNDER.Dear friends,There are times when an astrologer does not want predictions to come true.This being had posted as a side note on 27th June on VA board, the following, What more changes are coming ? (Not for Atalji) For world and India? kataka Sani transit will bring about misery to people. Taking primordial Rasi chart,Kataka is 4th house; 4th is 8th from 9th so Dharma will suffer in next 3 years, religious fanaticism will increase to an untolerable level. womanhood will also suffer.Education will fall under Saturn's grace, so changes will be brought about in field of education.(NCERT books are being changed) Accidents of vehicles, boat disasters and landslides with severe earthquakes will bring vinasha to nations. Let's pray things will be bearable. Tatavam-AsiEducation will fall under Saturn's grace" were the words used.....who would have anticipated students in school numbering unimaginable 100 would burn to death? Landslide..... was mentioned. We had a major landslide killing people on Badri-Kedar route. Landslides, accidents of vehicles....etc " was mentioned, we had at least six train tragedies after this was written. What more do we have in store in near future for Saturn's entry/stay and retro in Cancer???May God show mercy on people. Tatvam-Asi Attachment: vcard [not shown] Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release 12/26/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Srivatsa,Sarbani,Trivedi and others, The lunar year Kartika commenced on 12th November, 2004 at 19h 57mts in New Delhi. The chart for this time can be cast using Jhora. i am giving below the Kaalachakra diagram for this time. ME A10 AS GU MD HL A11 RA A6 A7 GK JIVA - KANYA DEHA - TULA UL A8 VE AL (SA) MA KE A5 GL SU MO A4 A9 Mahadasa of Tula amsa and antardasa of dhanur amsa was(is) on at the time of earthquake.(compressed kalachakra dasa for 1 year). Lagna lord Mars is placed in 9th house alongwith ketu(most important planet/node so far as kalachakra diagram is concerned). Mars is posited in the star Swati. Buda is placed in the star Jyestha(4th star from Swati). As per the nakshatra veda principle taught by jyotisharnava navanitam Buda is bound to obstruct the good effects to be given by Mars and will bring about adversities and malefic effects. Buda is the functional malefic for Mesha lagna. He is the lord of Jeeva amsa and is posited in 7th house with reference to Jeeva amsa(7th house placement indicates maranakaraka sthana) and in 12th house with reference to lagna and in his sign of debilitation(unhappy). Buda is placed in 8th from Deha lord Sukra and 6th from Deha amsa. It is clear that Buda has the intentions to destroy and create trouble to lagna lord and there by lagna. Now the question arises as to what sort of adversities can Buda give? Let us consult His Holiness Jaimini Maharishi. As per 3.3.51 of Upadesa Sutras Buda has the potency to cause natural disasters like earthquake. Buda represents prithvi tatwa and is placed in watery Meena. He is connected to Mars by way of Argala and is therefore capable of causing earthquakes. By positioning in 12th he has kept his intentions in a secretive manner. Buda occupies the 8th house with reference to Arudha lagna and is in Vipat tara with reference to Nakshatra occupied by Moon. Rahu occupies the nakshatra Aswini(close proximity to watery Meena) and in kaalachakra diagram finds his place in the amsa of Mithuna ruled by Buda. Rahu has the potency to pierce(veda) through Buda all of a sudden through the nakshatra occupied by Buda(jyeshtha has close proximity with agni dhanu) and can cause expansion/explosion of adversities proposed by Buda from watery Meena(tsunami). Rahu is one of the badhakas and is associated with shatru pada and is placed in 9th, a maranakaraka sthana, with reference to deha amsa Tula. In mundane astrology lagna refers to public health, 7th house refers to woman, infant mortality, 8th house refers to death rate, unexpected troubles, 9th house refers to fortune and 12th house refers to loss and hospitals among other things. We have already seen that lagna lord is under great duress on account of Buda the jeeva amsa lord. Buda the jeeva amsa lord and Sukra the deha amsa lord are placed in 6/8 positions. It looks like that Jeeva wants to wriggle out of the clutches of deha. Let us now see the chakra dasa. The nakshatra occupied by Moon is apasavya and the dasa cycle begins with Kanya the jeeva rasi. The dasa balance left out for completion of Kanya is very less as Moon is to cover up only a distance less than 3 minutes of space arc in the 2nd pada of Nakshatra Visaka. Tula amsa Maha dasa the deha amsa begins thereafter. Tula amsa is the third from Arudhalagna and is subject to the machinations of Sani and Rahu. The lord Sukra has exchanged houses with Sun. This means that both the grahas mutually influence their houses because of this parivartana to a great extent. Sun occupies the nakshatra Visaka which is vedha to Pushyami occupied by Sani the representative of the mass. Sani on the other hand occupies Pushyami Nakshatra which is the 21st nakshatra(abhijit included) called as Trisula nakshatra, from Visakha occupied by Sun. We find HL placed in 8th house with reference to the Mahadasa/deha amsa. This has a deep meaning. This placement indicates there is a specific message of destiny to be communicated to the coummunity/jaati. Let us see the nakshatra occupied by HL. It occupies the nakshatra Moola which indeed is the jaati tara with reference to Moon. Moreover Moon is the rudra for the chart(please see Jhora for the time given above). The thithi is amavasya ruled by Rahu. Moon belongs to watery tatva. >From the above it is clear that Tula amsa chakra dasa has deep message of destiny to the coummunity in India. This period lasts from 13th November 2004 to 22nd January 2005. GL is placed in Makha nakshatra which is vainasikha tara with reference to Moon. In Kaalachakra we find GL placed in 8th house. Mars and Ketu are the sign dispositors of GL. They are together placed in 3rd from Mahadasa Tula amsa. The great disaster struck during the antardasha of dhanur which is occupied by Mars and Ketu. It is because of the presence of Mars the lagna lord in dhanur, Buda placed in 4th nakshatra with reference to the nakshatra occupied by Mars (and in Meena amsa in kaalachakra diagram) had to act in a devastating manner. The antar dasa of dhanur commenced on 22nd dec., 2004 and will end on 30th dec., 2004. Lagna of the lunar year chart has fallen in the nakshatra of Mrigasira. On the day of event from the Indonesian earthquake chart provided by Sow.Sarbani we find the Moon transitting the nakshatra Mrigasira and the Lagna rises in Dhanur rasi. We find the deha amsa lord Sukra joining the jiva amsa lord buda in the nakshatra Jyeshtha on the day of event and the readiness with which Rahu awaits in Aswini nakshatra (veda to Jyeshta) to gobble up. >From the rasi chart generated by Jhora we can see the concentration of planets in Tula and Kanya. As per Varahamihira, from Simha 26 degrees & 40 minutes to Tula 6 degrees and 40 minutes the stars preside over Lanka, Malaya etc. and from Tula 6 degrees & 40 minutes to Vrischika 16 degrees and 40 minutes the stars preside over the regions of Tamilnadu, pallava etc. Best wishes. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. "R.C.Srivastava" <swami_rcs > wrote: Dear Tatvam – Asi , I appreciate your post. It has kindled interest in realizing need to reassess methods employed by astrologers .The principle used is basic and as thumb rule is good. But question remains when where and how much intensity of Earthquake will strike?. Astrology is a discipline of great importance and like me and you, many might be wondering why not Astrologer meet and workout to predict Earthquakes in advance to make people aware of possibility of impending danger. As many of us know excellent groundwork is already done by Dr B.V.Raman, Sri Kelkar and some others. It will be wonderful if in these days of knowledge sharing Seminars or workshops are planned and organized by savants to develop or explore methods on predictions of Earthquakes SO humanity gets the advantage of Vedic- knowledge in saving of life and property. To start with I shall post my notes on predicting earthquakes, that I am searching for in hope of any help or to kindle interest. Thanking sri Tatvam-Asi once again for calling basic attention to elite on this board. Hope savants will consider my suggestion in spirit of kindness. OM TAT SAT Original message Learned friends,Breaking self imposed mauna for Margashirsha, The following is posted.Self is too much pained to post this prediction which is reproduced here.It is reproduced not to show that it shows self's predictive correctness, BUT AS AN ANSWER TO CRITICS OF THIS GREAT SCIENCE WHO CALL ASTROLOGY AS HUMBUG.IT IS TO SHOW THAT ASTROLOGERS HAVE TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY.Please remember, that when this was made in June this year, neither Kanchi seer and Math were anywhere near mind nor so many accidents, disasters were anticipated by anyone.But Saturn had his own designs.THE POSTING IS REPRODUCED AS UNDER.Dear friends,There are times when an astrologer does not want predictions to come true.This being had posted as a side note on 27th June on VA board, the following, What more changes are coming ? (Not for Atalji) For world and India? kataka Sani transit will bring about misery to people. Taking primordial Rasi chart,Kataka is 4th house; 4th is 8th from 9th so Dharma will suffer in next 3 years, religious fanaticism will increase to an untolerable level. womanhood will also suffer.Education will fall under Saturn's grace, so changes will be brought about in field of education.(NCERT books are being changed) Accidents of vehicles, boat disasters and landslides with severe earthquakes will bring vinasha to nations. Let's pray things will be bearable. Tatavam-AsiEducation will fall under Saturn's grace" were the words used.....who would have anticipated students in school numbering unimaginable 100 would burn to death? Landslide..... was mentioned. We had a major landslide killing people on Badri-Kedar route. Landslides, accidents of vehicles....etc " was mentioned, we had at least six train tragedies after this was written. What more do we have in store in near future for Saturn's entry/stay and retro in Cancer???May God show mercy on people. 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