Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Respected learned members, I have two question with regards to my chart: a) When and how my second marriage will be? My first marriage was an arranged marriage, which happened on Dec 22nd, 1995 and the divorce was passed in feb 1998. Though I am saying that was my "first marriage", it really wasn't any marriage at all. I am mentioning this detail to shed some light on the authenticity of my chart. But my question really is, how will my second marriage be? There has been difference of opinion regarding which house to look at for second marriage and I can't figure out how to read that. Could someone also predict when it will be? I do know when it will be, I am still asking that question to see if someone has a way to predict that..and I would like to learn that method. b) About my career: I am in the field of psychology and counseling since the last three years but my background has been in business and marketing. I am at a junction where I can pursue both simultaneously. I am curious about what my career house really indicates. It has Sun and mercury (and perhaps my career keeps changing because of mercury?) placed in it plus the aspect of jupiter. Which career does that indicate? I have been having thoughts of doing marketing for the pharmaceutical industry. My 10th lord moon in 6th house with mars, does this indicate something to do with the medical profession? If so, would I be sucessful in it? My birth details are: DOB: July 22nd 1973 TOB: 12.35 p.m. POB: New Delhi I look forward to receiving some guidance. Thank you, Dimple Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Jai Mata Di Dear Dimple Ji: I am a student of astrology and in noway the final authority in what i analyze. However this is what i feel about your chart. Usually we see the potential for marriage from 7th house in lagna chart and the 7th lord. In ur case 7th lord is mangal who is in 6th house and hence the divorce. However i have seen so many charts where they have 7th lord in 6th house and even than marriage as been intact, though a painful marriage. So this makes us wonder if astrology is case subjective. The answer is no......its our deficiency. So further studying i got into concept of Upapada Lagna for marriage not sure if you have read about it but it is showing very good consistency in results i have observed so far. The difference between 7th house/lord and Upapada is 7th house and its arudha shows our attraction to a potential partner, however upapada shows us the partner we marry (in western world we will say partner we had long term relationship with / physical relationship does qualify for upapada if relationship is more than a year ) Now analyzing your UL. Ur UL lord is venus so it did give you a marriage however we see longevity of marriage from 2nd from UL and planets that help sustaining marriage from 3rd from UL. In ur case 2nd from UL is having shani + ketu having drishti from rahu. This is the reason that lead to divorce, we also consider rashi drishti. For second marriage we refer to 8th from UL, and if nodes are involved there than they cast a full stop. In ur case 8th from UL is saggitarius with Rahu there and hence by what i have learned so far, there is very bleak chance for second marriage. However, i believe and trust in vedic astrology cause it shows remedies and karmic relations for mis-happenings. Though i am not an expert in remedies, i will suggest u to propitiate rahu by worshipping Durga maa ...i saw || Jai Mata Di || at the beginning of ur mail ....and this is the precise reason for you to worship maa. REMEDY 1. Following is the link with details for worshipping maa, however i will wait for confirmation from other learned members before starting the remedy http://www.srath.com/mantra/durga.htm Things will definitely improve if you do worshipping with whole heart and once divine wishes it nothing can be denied. REMEDY 2. Also UL is a sign of Venus so fasting on friday will enhance ur marriage potentiality and will guide you correctly if second marriage is ur karmic destiny. Ur Darakaraka is mercury which badly afflicted cause its combusted and retrograde by the presence of Sun who is also ur badhakesh. Also Venus UL lord is in 11th house which badhak sthana for libra lagna. So the combination of these things are causing marital problems. REMEDY 3. Wearing an Emerald wont be a bad suggestion as per me, however again confirm with other members of the forum. This will strength your 9th house of luck and 12th house of bed pleasures (of course which will lead to marriage too). Also make you more decisive with career i would say. Please send me a feedback as to what you feel about my readings so as to enable me for further readings. I also request other members of the forum, Nitinji Raoji to comment. Hare Rama Krishna Bharat On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:31:45 -0800 (PST), Water Fire <julyrainmermaid wrote: > III Jai Mata Di III > > Respected learned members, > > I have two question with regards to my chart: > > a) When and how my second marriage will be? > My first marriage was an arranged marriage, which happened on Dec 22nd, 1995 > and the divorce was passed in feb 1998. Though I am saying that was my > "first marriage", it really wasn't any marriage at all. I am mentioning this > detail to shed some light on the authenticity of my chart. But my question > really is, how will my second marriage be? There has been difference of > opinion regarding which house to look at for second marriage and I can't > figure out how to read that. Could someone also predict when it will be? I > do know when it will be, I am still asking that question to see if someone > has a way to predict that..and I would like to learn that method. > > b) About my career: I am in the field of psychology and counseling since the > last three years but my background has been in business and marketing. I am > at a junction where I can pursue both simultaneously. I am curious about > what my career house really indicates. It has Sun and mercury (and perhaps > my career keeps changing because of mercury?) placed in it plus the aspect > of jupiter. Which career does that indicate? I have been having thoughts of > doing marketing for the pharmaceutical industry. My 10th lord moon in 6th > house with mars, does this indicate something to do with the medical > profession? If so, would I be sucessful in it? > > My birth details are: > DOB: July 22nd 1973 > TOB: 12.35 p.m. > POB: New Delhi > > I look forward to receiving some guidance. > > Thank you, > Dimple > > ________________________________ > > Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > Sponsor > > Children International > Give a Child the gift of Hope this Holiday season > > ·Click Here to meet a Boy > And Change His Life > ·Click Here to meet a Girl > And Give Her Hope are > Learn More > > ________________________________ > Links > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Dear Bharat Ji, Thank you so much for reading my chart. I am unfamiliar with some of the terms you have mentioned. However, I will research those and thus learn more. I appreciate your efforts for the readings. Like I had mentioned "I do know when the second marriage will be", at this point I feel I should mention that. The court marriage (second marriage) already happened on Oct 4th, 1994 and the hindu ceremony is taking place on jan 21st, 2005. I am happy to read that both the things that you mentioned (wear an emerald and worship Ma durga) occured to my conscious mind and I have been wearing an emerald (I prescribed it to myself out of intuition from my chart) since the past 4 years or so. also, I got a "bulawa" from Vaishnu Devi mata before I left India for US in 2001. I went to Vaishnu Devi and asked her for a nice husband. I feel that it is all her blessings. So my chart really shows no second marriage and yet it is happening? Should I then infer that prayers have the strength to change things that are indicated otherwise in the chart? I would like to mention one thing, perhaps this may change the house you would look at for second marriage now. You said that in the western world a relationship that has lasted more than an year or so would be looked upon as second marriage. Well, after the divorce I had an emotional attachment to a guy that lasted for three years. His parents refused to accept me as their daughter-in-law as I was a divorcee and he had never been married before. In the end they did, but my self-dignity and fear did not allow me to go to a house which had already not treated me with respect. Would you consider such relationships as marriage? If so, then perhaps this would be a third wedding and would be read from a different house? (I think reading marriages in astrology is getting more complicated these days ). Thank you for your interaction, Regards, DimpleBharat Vyas <bharatvyas > wrote: Jai Mata Di Dear Dimple Ji:I am a student of astrology and in noway the final authority in what ianalyze. However this is what i feel about your chart.Usually we see the potential for marriage from 7th house in lagnachart and the 7th lord. In ur case 7th lord is mangal who is in 6thhouse and hence the divorce. However i have seen so many charts wherethey have 7th lord in 6th house and even than marriage as been intact,though a painful marriage. So this makes us wonder if astrology iscase subjective. The answer is no......its our deficiency. So furtherstudying i got into concept of Upapada Lagna for marriage not sure ifyou have read about it but it is showing very good consistency inresults i have observed so far.The difference between 7th house/lord and Upapada is 7th house and itsarudha shows our attraction to a potential partner, however upapadashows us the partner we marry (in western world we will say partner wehad long term relationship with / physical relationship does qualifyfor upapada if relationship is more than a year )Now analyzing your UL. Ur UL lord is venus so it did give you amarriage however we see longevity of marriage from 2nd from UL andplanets that help sustaining marriage from 3rd from UL. In ur case 2ndfrom UL is having shani + ketu having drishti from rahu. This is thereason that lead to divorce, we also consider rashi drishti.For second marriage we refer to 8th from UL, and if nodes are involvedthere than they cast a full stop. In ur case 8th from UL issaggitarius with Rahu there and hence by what i have learned so far,there is very bleak chance for second marriage. However, i believe andtrust in vedic astrology cause it shows remedies and karmic relationsfor mis-happenings. Though i am not an expert in remedies, i willsuggest u to propitiate rahu by worshipping Durga maa ...i saw || JaiMata Di || at the beginning of ur mail ....and this is the precisereason for you to worship maa.REMEDY 1. Following is the link with details for worshipping maa,however i will wait for confirmation from other learned members beforestarting the remedyhttp://www.srath.com/mantra/durga.htmThings will definitely improve if you do worshipping with whole heartand once divine wishes it nothing can be denied.REMEDY 2. Also UL is a sign of Venus so fasting on friday will enhanceur marriage potentiality and will guide you correctly if secondmarriage is ur karmic destiny.Ur Darakaraka is mercury which badly afflicted cause its combusted andretrograde by the presence of Sun who is also ur badhakesh. Also VenusUL lord is in 11th house which badhak sthana for libra lagna. So thecombination of these things are causing marital problems.REMEDY 3. Wearing an Emerald wont be a bad suggestion as per me,however again confirm with other members of the forum. This willstrength your 9th house of luck and 12th house of bed pleasures (ofcourse which will lead to marriage too). Also make you more decisivewith career i would say.Please send me a feedback as to what you feel about my readings so asto enable me for further readings. I also request other members of theforum, Nitinji Raoji to comment.Hare Rama KrishnaBharat On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:31:45 -0800 (PST), Water Fire<julyrainmermaid > wrote:> III Jai Mata Di III> > Respected learned members,> > I have two question with regards to my chart:> > a) When and how my second marriage will be? > My first marriage was an arranged marriage, which happened on Dec 22nd, 1995> and the divorce was passed in feb 1998. Though I am saying that was my> "first marriage", it really wasn't any marriage at all. I am mentioning this> detail to shed some light on the authenticity of my chart. But my question> really is, how will my second marriage be? There has been difference of> opinion regarding which house to look at for second marriage and I can't> figure out how to read that. Could someone also predict when it will be? I> do know when it will be, I am still asking that question to see if someone> has a way to predict that..and I would like to learn that method.> > b) About my career: I am in the field of psychology and counseling since the> last three years but my background has been in business and marketing. I am> at a junction where I can pursue both simultaneously. I am curious about> what my career house really indicates. It has Sun and mercury (and perhaps> my career keeps changing because of mercury?) placed in it plus the aspect> of jupiter. Which career does that indicate? I have been having thoughts of> doing marketing for the pharmaceutical industry. My 10th lord moon in 6th> house with mars, does this indicate something to do with the medical> profession? If so, would I be sucessful in it?> > My birth details are:> DOB: July 22nd 1973> TOB: 12.35 p.m.> POB: New Delhi> > I look forward to receiving some guidance.> > Thank you,> Dimple> > ________________________________> > Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > Sponsor> > Children International> Give a Child the gift of Hope this Holiday season> > ·Click Here to meet a Boy> And Change His Life> ·Click Here to meet a Girl> And Give Her Hope are> Learn More> > ________________________________> Links> To visit your group on the web, go to:> vedic astrology/> > To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > > >Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Dear Dimpleji: Hare Rama Krishna, Reading marriage is not difficult to read from chart but however the spiritual sanctity of marriage and its implications have changed so much these days that we have to define new way for defining marriage and relationships. However i think i will do a reading again to gain some experience. Bharat On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:51:07 -0800 (PST), Water Fire <julyrainmermaid wrote: > III Jai Mata Di III > > Dear Bharat Ji, > > Thank you so much for reading my chart. I am unfamiliar with some of the > terms you have mentioned. However, I will research those and thus learn > more. > > I appreciate your efforts for the readings. Like I had mentioned "I do know > when the second marriage will be", at this point I feel I should mention > that. The court marriage (second marriage) already happened on Oct 4th, 1994 > and the hindu ceremony is taking place on jan 21st, 2005. > > I am happy to read that both the things that you mentioned (wear an emerald > and worship Ma durga) occured to my conscious mind and I have been wearing > an emerald (I prescribed it to myself out of intuition from my chart) since > the past 4 years or so. also, I got a "bulawa" from Vaishnu Devi mata before > I left India for US in 2001. I went to Vaishnu Devi and asked her for a nice > husband. I feel that it is all her blessings. > > So my chart really shows no second marriage and yet it is happening? Should > I then infer that prayers have the strength to change things that are > indicated otherwise in the chart? > > I would like to mention one thing, perhaps this may change the house you > would look at for second marriage now. You said that in the western world a > relationship that has lasted more than an year or so would be looked upon as > second marriage. Well, after the divorce I had an emotional attachment to a > guy that lasted for three years. His parents refused to accept me as their > daughter-in-law as I was a divorcee and he had never been married before. In > the end they did, but my self-dignity and fear did not allow me to go to a > house which had already not treated me with respect. Would you consider such > relationships as marriage? If so, then perhaps this would be a third wedding > and would be read from a different house? (I think reading marriages in > astrology is getting more complicated these days ). > > Thank you for your interaction, > > Regards, > Dimple > > > Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas wrote: > Jai Mata Di > > Dear Dimple Ji: > > I am a student of astrology and in noway the final authority in what i > analyze. However this is what i feel about your chart. > > Usually we see the potential for marriage from 7th house in lagna > chart and the 7th lord. In ur case 7th lord is mangal who is in 6th > house and hence the divorce. However i have seen so many charts where > they have 7th lord in 6th house and even than marriage as been intact, > though a painful marriage. So this makes us wonder if astrology is > case subjective. The answer is no......its our deficiency. So further > studying i got into concept of Upapada Lagna for marriage not sure if > you have read about it but it is showing very good consistency in > results i have observed so far. > > The difference between 7th house/lord and Upapada is 7th house and its > arudha shows our attraction to a potential partner, however upapada > shows us the partner we marry (in western world we will say partner we > had long term relationship with / physical relationship does qualify > for upapada if relationship is more than a year ) > > Now analyzing your UL. Ur UL lord is venus so it did give you a > marriage however we see longevity of marriage from 2nd from UL and > planets that help sustaining marriage from 3rd from UL. In ur case 2nd > from UL is having shani + ketu having drishti from rahu. This is the > reason that lead to divorce, we also consider rashi drishti. > > For second marriage we refer to 8th from UL, and if nodes are involved > there than they cast a full stop. In ur case 8th from UL is > saggitarius with Rahu there and hence by what i have learned so far, > there is very bleak chance for second marriage. However, i believe and > trust in vedic astrology cause it shows remedies and karmic relations > for mis-happenings. Though i am not an expert in remedies, i will > suggest u to propitiate rahu by worshipping Durga maa ...i saw || Jai > Mata Di || at the beginning of ur mail ....and this is the precise > reason for you to worship maa. > > REMEDY 1. Following is the link with details for worshipping maa, > however i will wait for confirmation from other learned members before > starting the remedy > > http://www.srath.com/mantra/durga.htm > > Things will definitely improve if you do worshipping with whole heart > and once divine wishes it nothing can be denied. > > REMEDY 2. Also UL is a sign of Venus so fasting on friday will enhance > ur marriage potentiality and will guide you correctly if second > marriage is ur karmic destiny. > > Ur Darakaraka is mercury which badly afflicted cause its combusted and > retrograde by the presence of Sun who is also ur badhakesh. Also Venus > UL lord is in 11th house which badhak sthana for libra lagna. So the > combination of these things are causing marital problems. > > REMEDY 3. Wearing an Emerald wont be a bad suggestion as per me, > however again confirm with other members of the forum. This will > strength your 9th house of luck and 12th house of bed pleasures (of > course which will lead to marriage too). Also make you more decisive > with career i would say. > > Please send me a feedback as to what you feel about my readings so as > to enable me for further readings. I also request other members of the > forum, Nitinji Raoji to comment. > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Bharat > > > > > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:31:45 -0800 (PST), Water Fire > <julyrainmermaid wrote: > > III Jai Mata Di III > > > > Respected learned members, > > > > I have two question with regards to my chart: > > > > a) When and how my second marriage will be? > > My first marriage was an arranged marriage, which happened on Dec 22nd, > 1995 > > and the divorce was passed in feb 1998. Though I am saying that was my > > "first marriage", it really wasn't any marriage at all. I am mentioning > this > > detail to shed some light on the authenticity of my chart. But my question > > really is, how will my second marriage be? There has been difference of > > opinion regarding which house to look at for second marriage and I can't > > figure out how to read that. Could someone also predict when it will be? I > > do know when it will be, I am still asking that question to see if someone > > has a way to predict that..and I would like to learn that method. > > > > b) About my career: I am in the field of psychology and counseling since > the > > last three years but my background has been in business and marketing. I > am > > at a junction where I can pursue both simultaneously. I am curious about > > what my career house really indicates. It has Sun and mercury (and perhaps > > my career keeps changing because of mercury?) placed in it plus the aspect > > of jupiter. Which career does that indicate? I have been having thoughts > of > > doing marketing for the pharmaceutical industry. My 10th lord moon in 6th > > house with mars, does this indicate something to do with the medical > > profession? If so, would I be sucessful in it? > > > > My birth details are: > > DOB: July 22nd 1973 > > TOB: 12.35 p.m. > > POB: New Delhi > > > > I look forward to receiving some guidance. > > > > Thank you, > > Dimple > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Children International > > Give a Child the gift of Hope this Holiday season > > > > ·Click Here to meet a Boy > > And Change His Life > > ·Click Here to meet a Girl > > And Give Her Hope are > > Learn More > > > > ________________________________ > > Links > > > > vedic astrology/ > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > All your favorites on one personal page – Try My > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Hare Rama Krishna: I feel it surely a blessing of Durga maa that you are getting married again. Looking at the dasha ...you first got married in venus-rahu dasha and this marriage is taking place in venus-merc-rahu dasha. keep praying to Durga for sustaining ur married life. Also i would consider the second relationship of urs as having a potential for marriage or a marriage which was not defined in true sense as marriage cause of the presence of rahu which anti-dharmic in nature (but can lead you to high spirituality if well placed) and marriage is defined as dharma by Gita. Also second from rahu is debilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up ending that relationship. Also 3rd house where rahu is sitting is lorded by debilitated retrograde jupiter and hence the result. The third marriage of urs is now been looked from 10th house whose lord is moon who is in 9th from 10th house. 9th would indicate dharma and moon is considered a benefic and hence would to logical result of marriage denoting dharma. The second from 10th is what we will look now for longevity of ur third marriage. The 11th house is incidently badhak for ur lagna. The badhakesh is sun placed in ur 10th house for new marriage. While defining UL sun was considered benefic for marriage and longevity of marriage cause sun represents dharma. So though u might face problems in getting married 3rd time u will finally succeed also grace of maa durga. 11th house is badhak and its acting as badhak to breaking of marriage so marriage wont break :-) . Good Luck and Best Wishes , Bharat On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:53:56 -0700, Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas wrote: > Dear Dimpleji: > > Hare Rama Krishna, > > Reading marriage is not difficult to read from chart but however the > spiritual sanctity of marriage and its implications have changed so > much these days that we have to define new way for defining marriage > and relationships. However i think i will do a reading again to gain > some experience. > > Bharat > > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:51:07 -0800 (PST), Water Fire > <julyrainmermaid wrote: > > III Jai Mata Di III > > > > Dear Bharat Ji, > > > > Thank you so much for reading my chart. I am unfamiliar with some of the > > terms you have mentioned. However, I will research those and thus learn > > more. > > > > I appreciate your efforts for the readings. Like I had mentioned "I do know > > when the second marriage will be", at this point I feel I should mention > > that. The court marriage (second marriage) already happened on Oct 4th, 1994 > > and the hindu ceremony is taking place on jan 21st, 2005. > > > > I am happy to read that both the things that you mentioned (wear an emerald > > and worship Ma durga) occured to my conscious mind and I have been wearing > > an emerald (I prescribed it to myself out of intuition from my chart) since > > the past 4 years or so. also, I got a "bulawa" from Vaishnu Devi mata before > > I left India for US in 2001. I went to Vaishnu Devi and asked her for a nice > > husband. I feel that it is all her blessings. > > > > So my chart really shows no second marriage and yet it is happening? Should > > I then infer that prayers have the strength to change things that are > > indicated otherwise in the chart? > > > > I would like to mention one thing, perhaps this may change the house you > > would look at for second marriage now. You said that in the western world a > > relationship that has lasted more than an year or so would be looked upon as > > second marriage. Well, after the divorce I had an emotional attachment to a > > guy that lasted for three years. His parents refused to accept me as their > > daughter-in-law as I was a divorcee and he had never been married before. In > > the end they did, but my self-dignity and fear did not allow me to go to a > > house which had already not treated me with respect. Would you consider such > > relationships as marriage? If so, then perhaps this would be a third wedding > > and would be read from a different house? (I think reading marriages in > > astrology is getting more complicated these days ). > > > > Thank you for your interaction, > > > > Regards, > > Dimple > > > > > > Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas wrote: > > Jai Mata Di > > > > Dear Dimple Ji: > > > > I am a student of astrology and in noway the final authority in what i > > analyze. However this is what i feel about your chart. > > > > Usually we see the potential for marriage from 7th house in lagna > > chart and the 7th lord. In ur case 7th lord is mangal who is in 6th > > house and hence the divorce. However i have seen so many charts where > > they have 7th lord in 6th house and even than marriage as been intact, > > though a painful marriage. So this makes us wonder if astrology is > > case subjective. The answer is no......its our deficiency. So further > > studying i got into concept of Upapada Lagna for marriage not sure if > > you have read about it but it is showing very good consistency in > > results i have observed so far. > > > > The difference between 7th house/lord and Upapada is 7th house and its > > arudha shows our attraction to a potential partner, however upapada > > shows us the partner we marry (in western world we will say partner we > > had long term relationship with / physical relationship does qualify > > for upapada if relationship is more than a year ) > > > > Now analyzing your UL. Ur UL lord is venus so it did give you a > > marriage however we see longevity of marriage from 2nd from UL and > > planets that help sustaining marriage from 3rd from UL. In ur case 2nd > > from UL is having shani + ketu having drishti from rahu. This is the > > reason that lead to divorce, we also consider rashi drishti. > > > > For second marriage we refer to 8th from UL, and if nodes are involved > > there than they cast a full stop. In ur case 8th from UL is > > saggitarius with Rahu there and hence by what i have learned so far, > > there is very bleak chance for second marriage. However, i believe and > > trust in vedic astrology cause it shows remedies and karmic relations > > for mis-happenings. Though i am not an expert in remedies, i will > > suggest u to propitiate rahu by worshipping Durga maa ...i saw || Jai > > Mata Di || at the beginning of ur mail ....and this is the precise > > reason for you to worship maa. > > > > REMEDY 1. Following is the link with details for worshipping maa, > > however i will wait for confirmation from other learned members before > > starting the remedy > > > > http://www.srath.com/mantra/durga.htm > > > > Things will definitely improve if you do worshipping with whole heart > > and once divine wishes it nothing can be denied. > > > > REMEDY 2. Also UL is a sign of Venus so fasting on friday will enhance > > ur marriage potentiality and will guide you correctly if second > > marriage is ur karmic destiny. > > > > Ur Darakaraka is mercury which badly afflicted cause its combusted and > > retrograde by the presence of Sun who is also ur badhakesh. Also Venus > > UL lord is in 11th house which badhak sthana for libra lagna. So the > > combination of these things are causing marital problems. > > > > REMEDY 3. Wearing an Emerald wont be a bad suggestion as per me, > > however again confirm with other members of the forum. This will > > strength your 9th house of luck and 12th house of bed pleasures (of > > course which will lead to marriage too). Also make you more decisive > > with career i would say. > > > > Please send me a feedback as to what you feel about my readings so as > > to enable me for further readings. I also request other members of the > > forum, Nitinji Raoji to comment. > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:31:45 -0800 (PST), Water Fire > > <julyrainmermaid wrote: > > > III Jai Mata Di III > > > > > > Respected learned members, > > > > > > I have two question with regards to my chart: > > > > > > a) When and how my second marriage will be? > > > My first marriage was an arranged marriage, which happened on Dec 22nd, > > 1995 > > > and the divorce was passed in feb 1998. Though I am saying that was my > > > "first marriage", it really wasn't any marriage at all. I am mentioning > > this > > > detail to shed some light on the authenticity of my chart. But my question > > > really is, how will my second marriage be? There has been difference of > > > opinion regarding which house to look at for second marriage and I can't > > > figure out how to read that. Could someone also predict when it will be? I > > > do know when it will be, I am still asking that question to see if someone > > > has a way to predict that..and I would like to learn that method. > > > > > > b) About my career: I am in the field of psychology and counseling since > > the > > > last three years but my background has been in business and marketing. I > > am > > > at a junction where I can pursue both simultaneously. I am curious about > > > what my career house really indicates. It has Sun and mercury (and perhaps > > > my career keeps changing because of mercury?) placed in it plus the aspect > > > of jupiter. Which career does that indicate? 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Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Dear Bharat ji, I am trying to learn astrology and so read some of your mails with a lot of interest. I was reading through you last mail and came across - "Also second from rahu is debilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up ending that relationship. " It immediately reminded me of the chart of some one I know that has a similar configuration - 7th house DebRahu and 8th house DebRetJup with MalMoon...... I would like your analysis and insights on it with regard to marriage, persons nature and future - the chart is attached. The person has a marriage that has been very troublesome from day one. Married April 23 2001, First child - Boy - 14th Sep. 2002 (Moola- 2nd pada) After much trouble, almost a year, has been better. Predictions for future so far have not been good. With thanks and regards, Vinoo Bharat Vyas [bharatvyas ]Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 07:08vedic astrologyRe: [vedic astrology] Second marriage and careerHare Rama Krishna:I feel it surely a blessing of Durga maa that you are getting marriedagain. Looking at the dasha ....you first got married in venus-rahudasha and this marriage is taking place in venus-merc-rahu dasha. keeppraying to Durga for sustaining ur married life.Also i would consider the second relationship of urs as having apotential for marriage or a marriage which was not defined in truesense as marriage cause of the presence of rahu which anti-dharmic innature (but can lead you to high spirituality if well placed) andmarriage is defined as dharma by Gita. Also second from rahu isdebilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up ending thatrelationship. Also 3rd house where rahu is sitting is lorded bydebilitated retrograde jupiter and hence the result.The third marriage of urs is now been looked from 10th house whoselord is moon who is in 9th from 10th house. 9th would indicate dharmaand moon is considered a benefic and hence would to logical result ofmarriage denoting dharma. The second from 10th is what we will looknow for longevity of ur third marriage. The 11th house is incidentlybadhak for ur lagna. The badhakesh is sun placed in ur 10th house fornew marriage. While defining UL sun was considered benefic formarriage and longevity of marriage cause sun represents dharma. Sothough u might face problems in getting married 3rd time u willfinally succeed also grace of maa durga. 11th house is badhak and itsacting as badhak to breaking of marriage so marriage wont break :-) .Good Luck and Best Wishes ,Bharat Attachment: (application/octet-stream) 7th House Rahu and 8th DebRetJup.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 Dear Bharat Ji, Thank you for your reading and kind words. I feel like mata conveyed this to me through you. Regards, DimpleBharat Vyas <bharatvyas > wrote: Hare Rama Krishna:I feel it surely a blessing of Durga maa that you are getting marriedagain. Looking at the dasha ...you first got married in venus-rahudasha and this marriage is taking place in venus-merc-rahu dasha. keeppraying to Durga for sustaining ur married life.Also i would consider the second relationship of urs as having apotential for marriage or a marriage which was not defined in truesense as marriage cause of the presence of rahu which anti-dharmic innature (but can lead you to high spirituality if well placed) andmarriage is defined as dharma by Gita. Also second from rahu isdebilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up ending thatrelationship. Also 3rd house where rahu is sitting is lorded bydebilitated retrograde jupiter and hence the result.The third marriage of urs is now been looked from 10th house whoselord is moon who is in 9th from 10th house. 9th would indicate dharmaand moon is considered a benefic and hence would to logical result ofmarriage denoting dharma. The second from 10th is what we will looknow for longevity of ur third marriage. The 11th house is incidentlybadhak for ur lagna. The badhakesh is sun placed in ur 10th house fornew marriage. While defining UL sun was considered benefic formarriage and longevity of marriage cause sun represents dharma. Sothough u might face problems in getting married 3rd time u willfinally succeed also grace of maa durga. 11th house is badhak and itsacting as badhak to breaking of marriage so marriage wont break :-) ..Good Luck and Best Wishes ,BharatOn Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:53:56 -0700, Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas > wrote:> Dear Dimpleji:> > Hare Rama Krishna,> > Reading marriage is not difficult to read from chart but however the> spiritual sanctity of marriage and its implications have changed so> much these days that we have to define new way for defining marriage> and relationships. However i think i will do a reading again to gain> some experience.> > Bharat> > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:51:07 -0800 (PST), Water Fire> <julyrainmermaid > wrote:> > III Jai Mata Di III> >> > Dear Bharat Ji,> >> > Thank you so much for reading my chart. I am unfamiliar with some of the> > terms you have mentioned. However, I will research those and thus learn> > more.> >> > I appreciate your efforts for the readings. Like I had mentioned "I do know> > when the second marriage will be", at this point I feel I should mention> > that. The court marriage (second marriage) already happened on Oct 4th, 1994> > and the hindu ceremony is taking place on jan 21st, 2005.> >> > I am happy to read that both the things that you mentioned (wear an emerald> > and worship Ma durga) occured to my conscious mind and I have been wearing> > an emerald (I prescribed it to myself out of intuition from my chart) since> > the past 4 years or so. also, I got a "bulawa" from Vaishnu Devi mata before> > I left India for US in 2001. I went to Vaishnu Devi and asked her for a nice> > husband. I feel that it is all her blessings.> >> > So my chart really shows no second marriage and yet it is happening? Should> > I then infer that prayers have the strength to change things that are> > indicated otherwise in the chart?> >> > I would like to mention one thing, perhaps this may change the house you> > would look at for second marriage now. You said that in the western world a> > relationship that has lasted more than an year or so would be looked upon as> > second marriage. Well, after the divorce I had an emotional attachment to a> > guy that lasted for three years. His parents refused to accept me as their> > daughter-in-law as I was a divorcee and he had never been married before. In> > the end they did, but my self-dignity and fear did not allow me to go to a> > house which had already not treated me with respect. Would you consider such> > relationships as marriage? If so, then perhaps this would be a third wedding> > and would be read from a different house? (I think reading marriages in> > astrology is getting more complicated these days ).> >> > Thank you for your interaction,> >> > Regards,> > Dimple> >> >> > Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas > wrote:> > Jai Mata Di> >> > Dear Dimple Ji:> >> > I am a student of astrology and in noway the final authority in what i> > analyze. However this is what i feel about your chart.> >> > Usually we see the potential for marriage from 7th house in lagna> > chart and the 7th lord. In ur case 7th lord is mangal who is in 6th> > house and hence the divorce. However i have seen so many charts where> > they have 7th lord in 6th house and even than marriage as been intact,> > though a painful marriage. So this makes us wonder if astrology is> > case subjective. The answer is no......its our deficiency. So further> > studying i got into concept of Upapada Lagna for marriage not sure if> > you have read about it but it is showing very good consistency in> > results i have observed so far.> >> > The difference between 7th house/lord and Upapada is 7th house and its> > arudha shows our attraction to a potential partner, however upapada> > shows us the partner we marry (in western world we will say partner we> > had long term relationship with / physical relationship does qualify> > for upapada if relationship is more than a year )> >> > Now analyzing your UL. Ur UL lord is venus so it did give you a> > marriage however we see longevity of marriage from 2nd from UL and> > planets that help sustaining marriage from 3rd from UL. In ur case 2nd> > from UL is having shani + ketu having drishti from rahu. This is the> > reason that lead to divorce, we also consider rashi drishti.> >> > For second marriage we refer to 8th from UL, and if nodes are involved> > there than they cast a full stop. In ur case 8th from UL is> > saggitarius with Rahu there and hence by what i have learned so far,> > there is very bleak chance for second marriage. However, i believe and> > trust in vedic astrology cause it shows remedies and karmic relations> > for mis-happenings. Though i am not an expert in remedies, i will> > suggest u to propitiate rahu by worshipping Durga maa ...i saw || Jai> > Mata Di || at the beginning of ur mail ....and this is the precise> > reason for you to worship maa.> >> > REMEDY 1. Following is the link with details for worshipping maa,> > however i will wait for confirmation from other learned members before> > starting the remedy> >> > http://www.srath.com/mantra/durga.htm> >> > Things will definitely improve if you do worshipping with whole heart> > and once divine wishes it nothing can be denied.> >> > REMEDY 2. Also UL is a sign of Venus so fasting on friday will enhance> > ur marriage potentiality and will guide you correctly if second> > marriage is ur karmic destiny.> >> > Ur Darakaraka is mercury which badly afflicted cause its combusted and> > retrograde by the presence of Sun who is also ur badhakesh. Also Venus> > UL lord is in 11th house which badhak sthana for libra lagna. So the> > combination of these things are causing marital problems.> >> > REMEDY 3. Wearing an Emerald wont be a bad suggestion as per me,> > however again confirm with other members of the forum. This will> > strength your 9th house of luck and 12th house of bed pleasures (of> > course which will lead to marriage too). Also make you more decisive> > with career i would say.> >> > Please send me a feedback as to what you feel about my readings so as> > to enable me for further readings. I also request other members of the> > forum, Nitinji Raoji to comment.> >> > Hare Rama Krishna> >> > Bharat> >> > Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 Dear Bharat ji, Could you please spare a moment. With thanks and regards, Vinoo Dear Bharat ji, I am trying to learn astrology and so read some of your mails with a lot of interest. I was reading through you last mail and came across - "Also second from rahu is debilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up ending that relationship. " It immediately reminded me of the chart of some one I know that has a similar configuration - 7th house DebRahu and 8th house DebRetJup with MalMoon...... I would like your analysis and insights on it with regard to marriage, persons nature and future - the chart is attached. The person has a marriage that has been very troublesome from day one. Married April 23 2001, First child - Boy - 14th Sep. 2002 (Moola- 2nd pada) After much trouble, almost a year, has been better. Predictions for future so far have not been good. With thanks and regards, Vinoo Bharat Vyas [bharatvyas ]Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 07:08vedic astrologyRe: [vedic astrology] Second marriage and careerHare Rama Krishna:I feel it surely a blessing of Durga maa that you are getting marriedagain. Looking at the dasha ....you first got married in venus-rahudasha and this marriage is taking place in venus-merc-rahu dasha. keeppraying to Durga for sustaining ur married life.Also i would consider the second relationship of urs as having apotential for marriage or a marriage which was not defined in truesense as marriage cause of the presence of rahu which anti-dharmic innature (but can lead you to high spirituality if well placed) andmarriage is defined as dharma by Gita. Also second from rahu isdebilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up ending thatrelationship. Also 3rd house where rahu is sitting is lorded bydebilitated retrograde jupiter and hence the result.The third marriage of urs is now been looked from 10th house whoselord is moon who is in 9th from 10th house. 9th would indicate dharmaand moon is considered a benefic and hence would to logical result ofmarriage denoting dharma. The second from 10th is what we will looknow for longevity of ur third marriage. The 11th house is incidentlybadhak for ur lagna. The badhakesh is sun placed in ur 10th house fornew marriage. While defining UL sun was considered benefic formarriage and longevity of marriage cause sun represents dharma. Sothough u might face problems in getting married 3rd time u willfinally succeed also grace of maa durga. 11th house is badhak and itsacting as badhak to breaking of marriage so marriage wont break :-) .Good Luck and Best Wishes ,Bharat Attachment: (application/octet-stream) 7th House Rahu and 8th DebRetJup.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 Dear Vinooji: When i was discussing the statement highlighted by you i was refering it with UL and not with 7th house. I did try to explain difference between UL, 7th house and A7 in one of my previous mail. In this case, rahu is in the 7th house and is having rashi drishti and graha drishti of so many planets causing the distress for person. Also rahu is inimical towards jupiter and in the house of jupiter is causing tensions. This is with regards to general sexuality and partnership in any sense. However specifically for marriage i would see UL, now lord of UL is moon and is in 7th from UL so completely aspecting UL and hence will give marriage. For gemini lagna, jupiter is a badhakesh and looking at jupiter to be retrograde debilitated weak is i feel good cause it will lessen its strength as badhakesh. Hence i would say its being weak is protecting 7th house in a sense. I dont know if my logic is right here so will request other members to help me on this. Now 2nd from UL is aspected by rashi drishti by moon and jupiter which are beneficial planets by nature hence will not break marriage easily. I read a dictum where it says Jupiter if bad for a particular lagna it will spoil the house where it is posited but houses under its drishti will still prosper and vice versa for saturn. So i would say the marriage wont break so easily atleast for 16 yrs. sorry couldnt mail earlier and have to jet out for now but i am open for further discussion. Hare krishna Bharat On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:35:14 +0530, Vinoo M Titus <vinoo.titus wrote: >  > Dear Bharat ji, > > I am trying to learn astrology and so read some of your mails with a lot of > interest. > > I was reading through you last mail and came across - "Also second from rahu > is debilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up ending that > relationship. " > > It immediately reminded me of the chart of some one I know that has a > similar configuration - 7th house DebRahu and 8th house DebRetJup with > MalMoon...... I would like your analysis and insights on it with regard to > marriage, persons nature and future - the chart is attached. The person has > a marriage that has been very troublesome from day one. Married April 23 > 2001, First child - Boy - 14th Sep. 2002 (Moola- 2nd pada) After much > trouble, almost a year, has been better. Predictions for future so far have > not been good. > > With thanks and regards, > > Vinoo > > Bharat Vyas [bharatvyas] > Thursday, December 23, 2004 07:08 > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Second marriage and career > > Hare Rama Krishna: > > I feel it surely a blessing of Durga maa that you are getting married > again. Looking at the dasha ...you first got married in venus-rahu > dasha and this marriage is taking place in venus-merc-rahu dasha. keep > praying to Durga for sustaining ur married life. > > Also i would consider the second relationship of urs as having a > potential for marriage or a marriage which was not defined in true > sense as marriage cause of the presence of rahu which anti-dharmic in > nature (but can lead you to high spirituality if well placed) and > marriage is defined as dharma by Gita. Also second from rahu is > debilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up ending that > relationship. Also 3rd house where rahu is sitting is lorded by > debilitated retrograde jupiter and hence the result. > > The third marriage of urs is now been looked from 10th house whose > lord is moon who is in 9th from 10th house. 9th would indicate dharma > and moon is considered a benefic and hence would to logical result of > marriage denoting dharma. The second from 10th is what we will look > now for longevity of ur third marriage. The 11th house is incidently > badhak for ur lagna. The badhakesh is sun placed in ur 10th house for > new marriage. While defining UL sun was considered benefic for > marriage and longevity of marriage cause sun represents dharma. So > though u might face problems in getting married 3rd time u will > finally succeed also grace of maa durga. 11th house is badhak and its > acting as badhak to breaking of marriage so marriage wont break :-) . > > Good Luck and Best Wishes , > > Bharat > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2004 Report Share Posted December 24, 2004 Dear Bharat, Even though I'm also beginer like u, i'll like to add few things. U mention moon is in 7th from UL this is showing oposition from mother in law. (Learned ones pls correct me) and for Ge lagna if moon is UL Lord and placed in 7th from UL i.e. 8th H It's in maran karka sthana and may show 1st relastionship was not materialse or have strong problems!! Where 12th L Ven is situated? It shows loss!! For UL to be in 2nd H , 12th L must be in 1st or 7th H!! In both cases it weakens the 2nd or 8th H !! Think again!! REgarding 7th L jup in debilation in 8th with UL lord !! Is it good? Think again !! What happens when planets join debilitate planets? What are the results given for 7th L in 8th !! For Badhakesha read Guruji's article in detail!! Check navamsa occupied by sun in D9 chart. I've not fully read your last correspondance but these are few comments !! Hopefully you will not mind it. With Regards, Vinay Patwardhan vedic astrology, Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas@g...> wrote: > Dear Vinooji: > > When i was discussing the statement highlighted by you i was refering > it with UL and not with 7th house. I did try to explain difference > between UL, 7th house and A7 in one of my previous mail. > > In this case, rahu is in the 7th house and is having rashi drishti and > graha drishti of so many planets causing the distress for person. Also > rahu is inimical towards jupiter and in the house of jupiter is > causing tensions. This is with regards to general sexuality and > partnership in any sense. However specifically for marriage i would > see UL, now lord of UL is moon and is in 7th from UL so completely > aspecting UL and hence will give marriage. > > For gemini lagna, jupiter is a badhakesh and looking at jupiter to be > retrograde debilitated weak is i feel good cause it will lessen its > strength as badhakesh. Hence i would say its being weak is protecting > 7th house in a sense. I dont know if my logic is right here so will > request other members to help me on this. > > Now 2nd from UL is aspected by rashi drishti by moon and jupiter which > are beneficial planets by nature hence will not break marriage easily. > I read a dictum where it says Jupiter if bad for a particular lagna it > will spoil the house where it is posited but houses under its drishti > will still prosper and vice versa for saturn. > > So i would say the marriage wont break so easily atleast for 16 yrs. > > sorry couldnt mail earlier and have to jet out for now but i am open > for further discussion. > > Hare krishna > > Bharat > > > On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:35:14 +0530, Vinoo M Titus <vinoo.titus@a...> wrote: > >  > > Dear Bharat ji, > > > > I am trying to learn astrology and so read some of your mails with a lot of > > interest. > > > > I was reading through you last mail and came across - "Also second from rahu > > is debilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up ending that > > relationship. " > > > > It immediately reminded me of the chart of some one I know that has a > > similar configuration - 7th house DebRahu and 8th house DebRetJup with > > MalMoon...... I would like your analysis and insights on it with regard to > > marriage, persons nature and future - the chart is attached. The person has > > a marriage that has been very troublesome from day one. Married April 23 > > 2001, First child - Boy - 14th Sep. 2002 (Moola- 2nd pada) After much > > trouble, almost a year, has been better. Predictions for future so far have > > not been good. > > > > With thanks and regards, > > > > Vinoo > > > > Bharat Vyas [bharatvyas@g...] > > Thursday, December 23, 2004 07:08 > > vedic astrology > > Re: [vedic astrology] Second marriage and career > > > > Hare Rama Krishna: > > > > I feel it surely a blessing of Durga maa that you are getting married > > again. Looking at the dasha ...you first got married in venus-rahu > > dasha and this marriage is taking place in venus-merc-rahu dasha. keep > > praying to Durga for sustaining ur married life. > > > > Also i would consider the second relationship of urs as having a > > potential for marriage or a marriage which was not defined in true > > sense as marriage cause of the presence of rahu which anti- dharmic in > > nature (but can lead you to high spirituality if well placed) and > > marriage is defined as dharma by Gita. Also second from rahu is > > debilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up ending that > > relationship. Also 3rd house where rahu is sitting is lorded by > > debilitated retrograde jupiter and hence the result. > > > > The third marriage of urs is now been looked from 10th house whose > > lord is moon who is in 9th from 10th house. 9th would indicate dharma > > and moon is considered a benefic and hence would to logical result of > > marriage denoting dharma. The second from 10th is what we will look > > now for longevity of ur third marriage. The 11th house is incidently > > badhak for ur lagna. The badhakesh is sun placed in ur 10th house for > > new marriage. While defining UL sun was considered benefic for > > marriage and longevity of marriage cause sun represents dharma. So > > though u might face problems in getting married 3rd time u will > > finally succeed also grace of maa durga. 11th house is badhak and its > > acting as badhak to breaking of marriage so marriage wont break :- ) . > > > > Good Luck and Best Wishes , > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2004 Report Share Posted December 24, 2004 Dear Vinayji: Thanks for ur mail and feedback. I understand what you are talking about but see here you are mixing 2 things up....i am not saying u r wrong or i am right...please take this in right spirit cause we r looking for constructive discussion and i would be happy to take suggestion to enhance my learning. We have special lagnas defined for specific purpose of life. So when you look at Lagna we look at the individual and when we look at lagna in D-10 we look only at occupation with regards to that lagna. Likewise when we look at UL we look only at marriage and mixing up 8th house from rashi lagna with UL is not encouraging by my personal opinion. So in this case we are looking at UL so jupiter and moon are in 7th from UL and not 8th and fully aspecting the UL so i feel its good cause both are natural benefic planets and since marriage is considered a dharma their aspect on marriage (UL) is considered good for marriage to take place, if we go by ur way of understanding the marriage wont take place at all, but the truth is marriage happened and hence their aspect on UL is not bad. Now 2nd from UL is the house we see for marriage to break, this is the house of Sun and is aspected by 3rd drishti by shani who is sun's biggest enemy and hence there is pain in marriage. Also 12 th from marriage is having lots of planets so ....the marriage is disturbed not cause of the individuals but because of outside forces where in-laws and others come in. Also we consider rashi dristi to be more powerful than graha dristi, here there is rashi dristi by jupiter + moon (Most Beneficial Association - Gajkesari ) on 2nd from UL, which will protect the marriage and not break it.....even though jupiter is debilitated but its the greatest symbol of dharma and god in a horoscope and if this marriage is based on dharma (i,e., there is no cheating involved ) this marriage will not break. * The other thread where in Dimpleji's case the relationship was not dharma cause her UL was occupied by Rahu (enemy of Jupiter ) and 2nd from UL was occupied by jupiter who would break the marriage in this case he is breaking adharma * Hence i would say even though there is pain involved, but still marriage is existing and will continue to exist till there is no adharma creeping in. The dharakaraka for native is saturn which teaches or pays back karma by sorrow and hence sorrow in marriage and relationship. Saturn is also aspecting 2nd from UL so it will make the native to stay in this relationship till the karmic relations are satisfied. They already have a kid and mars is putrakaraka and is friend of saturn (DK) and hence the baby could as well force them to stay together. OM TAT SAT. Thanks for ur mail Vinayji and sorry if i have offended anybody. Hare Krishna, Bharat On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:33:53 -0000, vinaypatwardhan <patwardhanvinay wrote: > > > Dear Bharat, > > Even though I'm also beginer like u, i'll like to add few things. > U mention moon is in 7th from UL this is showing oposition from > mother in law. (Learned ones pls correct me) and for Ge lagna if moon > is UL Lord and placed in 7th from UL i.e. 8th H It's in maran karka > sthana and may show 1st relastionship was not materialse or have > strong problems!! Where 12th L Ven is situated? It shows loss!! > For UL to be in 2nd H , 12th L must be in 1st or 7th H!! In both > cases it weakens the 2nd or 8th H !! Think again!! > > REgarding 7th L jup in debilation in 8th with UL lord !! Is it good? > Think again !! What happens when planets join debilitate planets? > What are the results given for 7th L in 8th !! > > For Badhakesha read Guruji's article in detail!! > > Check navamsa occupied by sun in D9 chart. > > I've not fully read your last correspondance but these are few > comments !! Hopefully you will not mind it. > > With Regards, > Vinay Patwardhan > > vedic astrology, Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas@g...> > wrote: > > Dear Vinooji: > > > > When i was discussing the statement highlighted by you i was > refering > > it with UL and not with 7th house. I did try to explain difference > > between UL, 7th house and A7 in one of my previous mail. > > > > In this case, rahu is in the 7th house and is having rashi drishti > and > > graha drishti of so many planets causing the distress for person. > Also > > rahu is inimical towards jupiter and in the house of jupiter is > > causing tensions. This is with regards to general sexuality and > > partnership in any sense. However specifically for marriage i would > > see UL, now lord of UL is moon and is in 7th from UL so completely > > aspecting UL and hence will give marriage. > > > > For gemini lagna, jupiter is a badhakesh and looking at jupiter to > be > > retrograde debilitated weak is i feel good cause it will lessen its > > strength as badhakesh. Hence i would say its being weak is > protecting > > 7th house in a sense. I dont know if my logic is right here so will > > request other members to help me on this. > > > > Now 2nd from UL is aspected by rashi drishti by moon and jupiter > which > > are beneficial planets by nature hence will not break marriage > easily. > > I read a dictum where it says Jupiter if bad for a particular lagna > it > > will spoil the house where it is posited but houses under its > drishti > > will still prosper and vice versa for saturn. > > > > So i would say the marriage wont break so easily atleast for 16 > yrs. > > > > sorry couldnt mail earlier and have to jet out for now but i am open > > for further discussion. > > > > Hare krishna > > > > Bharat > > > > > > On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:35:14 +0530, Vinoo M Titus > <vinoo.titus@a...> wrote: > > >  > > > Dear Bharat ji, > > > > > > I am trying to learn astrology and so read some of your mails > with a lot of > > > interest. > > > > > > I was reading through you last mail and came across - "Also > second from rahu > > > is debilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up > ending that > > > relationship. " > > > > > > It immediately reminded me of the chart of some one I know that > has a > > > similar configuration - 7th house DebRahu and 8th house DebRetJup > with > > > MalMoon...... I would like your analysis and insights on it with > regard to > > > marriage, persons nature and future - the chart is attached. The > person has > > > a marriage that has been very troublesome from day one. Married > April 23 > > > 2001, First child - Boy - 14th Sep. 2002 (Moola- 2nd pada) After > much > > > trouble, almost a year, has been better. Predictions for future > so far have > > > not been good. > > > > > > With thanks and regards, > > > > > > Vinoo > > > > > > Bharat Vyas [bharatvyas@g...] > > > Thursday, December 23, 2004 07:08 > > > vedic astrology > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Second marriage and career > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna: > > > > > > I feel it surely a blessing of Durga maa that you are getting > married > > > again. Looking at the dasha ...you first got married in venus-rahu > > > dasha and this marriage is taking place in venus-merc-rahu dasha. > keep > > > praying to Durga for sustaining ur married life. > > > > > > Also i would consider the second relationship of urs as having a > > > potential for marriage or a marriage which was not defined in true > > > sense as marriage cause of the presence of rahu which anti- > dharmic in > > > nature (but can lead you to high spirituality if well placed) and > > > marriage is defined as dharma by Gita. Also second from rahu is > > > debilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up ending > that > > > relationship. Also 3rd house where rahu is sitting is lorded by > > > debilitated retrograde jupiter and hence the result. > > > > > > The third marriage of urs is now been looked from 10th house whose > > > lord is moon who is in 9th from 10th house. 9th would indicate > dharma > > > and moon is considered a benefic and hence would to logical > result of > > > marriage denoting dharma. The second from 10th is what we will > look > > > now for longevity of ur third marriage. The 11th house is > incidently > > > badhak for ur lagna. The badhakesh is sun placed in ur 10th house > for > > > new marriage. While defining UL sun was considered benefic for > > > marriage and longevity of marriage cause sun represents dharma. So > > > though u might face problems in getting married 3rd time u will > > > finally succeed also grace of maa durga. 11th house is badhak and > its > > > acting as badhak to breaking of marriage so marriage wont break :- > ) . > > > > > > Good Luck and Best Wishes , > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2004 Report Share Posted December 25, 2004 Dear bharat, Pls don't add ji and call me just Vinay. You are brilliant and contributing with very good spirit. I appreciate ur efforts , we all are here to enhance our knowledge and I'm also looking for meaningful discussion. Now regarding your 1st point , have you read COVA? Or JS? by Guruji! In COVA in 7th chap he mentions UL lord in 12th House or similar things, Does we have to see UL Lord placement from UL or from Asc ? Pls get confirm. As per my understanding Asc is correct choice. Ask Gurus about it. :-) Regarding marriage should take place or not, only UL in Rasi is showing general trends and we have to confirm the things from D9. Here UL Lord in 8th with Badhakesh showing misfortunes and obstructions after marriage. Is it wrong? Secondly planets in 12th and 7th from UL shows opposition from relative of inlaw's family as per their karkatwa. Now in this case moon is aspecting UL (as UL lord) by Graha drishti only (desires) and not by sign aspect (which is permanant) Thirdly UL and 2nd from UL are two different things. 2nd H is maraka and hence gives the length of marriage. So whether marriage will continue or not has to be confirmed by 2nd H and even it's Lord placement in D9 is important. Any how what sun in trines to D9 shows? Read JS!! Rahu in 7th H in debilation ( Dhanu) shows disputes, difference of opinions , anger and 7th L in 8th shows social difference between the partners and along with 2nd L it shows reasults of it's placement in 2nd H. So overall results are not inductive. Have you checked the position of UL from AL and A7 ? What about D9 analysis? What is the meaning of UL in 2nd? See there are much more things we have to look at!! Currently I won't see the chart of native hence can't give final conclusion but my attempt is only to enhance your analysis and get benefited in terms of knowledge. Can u give birth details of native ? See you may be right in predictions but way of reasoning should be perfect. Have you read COVA ? (sorry if you have already read it, but for duffer like me it 'll take yrs to understand it)If you give chart I may go in deep. Pls take this in right spirit and forgive if overwritten. But it's interesting to discuss with you. With Regards, Vinay Patwardhan P.S. :- What if 7th L is Vakri? Sun must be in 12th to 4th House So how you will time the age when native get strike regarding Vakri ness? Just think !! :-) vedic astrology, Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas@g...> wrote: > Dear Vinayji: > > Thanks for ur mail and feedback. I understand what you are talking > about but see here you are mixing 2 things up....i am not saying u r > wrong or i am right...please take this in right spirit cause we r > looking for constructive discussion and i would be happy to take > suggestion to enhance my learning. > > We have special lagnas defined for specific purpose of life. So when > you look at Lagna we look at the individual and when we look at lagna > in D-10 we look only at occupation with regards to that lagna. > Likewise when we look at UL we look only at marriage and mixing up 8th > house from rashi lagna with UL is not encouraging by my personal > opinion. > > So in this case we are looking at UL so jupiter and moon are in 7th > from UL and not 8th and fully aspecting the UL so i feel its good > cause both are natural benefic planets and since marriage is > considered a dharma their aspect on marriage (UL) is considered good > for marriage to take place, if we go by ur way of understanding the > marriage wont take place at all, but the truth is marriage happened > and hence their aspect on UL is not bad. > > Now 2nd from UL is the house we see for marriage to break, this is the > house of Sun and is aspected by 3rd drishti by shani who is sun's > biggest enemy and hence there is pain in marriage. Also 12 th from > marriage is having lots of planets so ....the marriage is disturbed > not cause of the individuals but because of outside forces where > in-laws and others come in. > > Also we consider rashi dristi to be more powerful than graha dristi, > here there is rashi dristi by jupiter + moon (Most Beneficial > Association - Gajkesari ) on 2nd from UL, which will protect the > marriage and not break it.....even though jupiter is debilitated but > its the greatest symbol of dharma and god in a horoscope and if this > marriage is based on dharma (i,e., there is no cheating involved ) > this marriage will not break. > > * The other thread where in Dimpleji's case the relationship was not > dharma cause her UL was occupied by Rahu (enemy of Jupiter ) and 2nd > from UL was occupied by jupiter who would break the marriage in this > case he is breaking adharma * > > Hence i would say even though there is pain involved, but still > marriage is existing and will continue to exist till there is no > adharma creeping in. The dharakaraka for native is saturn which > teaches or pays back karma by sorrow and hence sorrow in marriage and > relationship. Saturn is also aspecting 2nd from UL so it will make the > native to stay in this relationship till the karmic relations are > satisfied. > > They already have a kid and mars is putrakaraka and is friend of > saturn (DK) and hence the baby could as well force them to stay > together. > > OM TAT SAT. > > Thanks for ur mail Vinayji and sorry if i have offended anybody. > > Hare Krishna, > > Bharat > > > On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:33:53 -0000, vinaypatwardhan > <patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bharat, > > > > Even though I'm also beginer like u, i'll like to add few things. > > U mention moon is in 7th from UL this is showing oposition from > > mother in law. (Learned ones pls correct me) and for Ge lagna if moon > > is UL Lord and placed in 7th from UL i.e. 8th H It's in maran karka > > sthana and may show 1st relastionship was not materialse or have > > strong problems!! Where 12th L Ven is situated? It shows loss!! > > For UL to be in 2nd H , 12th L must be in 1st or 7th H!! In both > > cases it weakens the 2nd or 8th H !! Think again!! > > > > REgarding 7th L jup in debilation in 8th with UL lord !! Is it good? > > Think again !! What happens when planets join debilitate planets? > > What are the results given for 7th L in 8th !! > > > > For Badhakesha read Guruji's article in detail!! > > > > Check navamsa occupied by sun in D9 chart. > > > > I've not fully read your last correspondance but these are few > > comments !! Hopefully you will not mind it. > > > > With Regards, > > Vinay Patwardhan > > > > vedic astrology, Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas@g...> > > wrote: > > > Dear Vinooji: > > > > > > When i was discussing the statement highlighted by you i was > > refering > > > it with UL and not with 7th house. I did try to explain difference > > > between UL, 7th house and A7 in one of my previous mail. > > > > > > In this case, rahu is in the 7th house and is having rashi drishti > > and > > > graha drishti of so many planets causing the distress for person. > > Also > > > rahu is inimical towards jupiter and in the house of jupiter is > > > causing tensions. This is with regards to general sexuality and > > > partnership in any sense. However specifically for marriage i would > > > see UL, now lord of UL is moon and is in 7th from UL so completely > > > aspecting UL and hence will give marriage. > > > > > > For gemini lagna, jupiter is a badhakesh and looking at jupiter to > > be > > > retrograde debilitated weak is i feel good cause it will lessen its > > > strength as badhakesh. Hence i would say its being weak is > > protecting > > > 7th house in a sense. I dont know if my logic is right here so will > > > request other members to help me on this. > > > > > > Now 2nd from UL is aspected by rashi drishti by moon and jupiter > > which > > > are beneficial planets by nature hence will not break marriage > > easily. > > > I read a dictum where it says Jupiter if bad for a particular lagna > > it > > > will spoil the house where it is posited but houses under its > > drishti > > > will still prosper and vice versa for saturn. > > > > > > So i would say the marriage wont break so easily atleast for 16 > > yrs. > > > > > > sorry couldnt mail earlier and have to jet out for now but i am open > > > for further discussion. > > > > > > Hare krishna > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:35:14 +0530, Vinoo M Titus > > <vinoo.titus@a...> wrote: > > > >  > > > > Dear Bharat ji, > > > > > > > > I am trying to learn astrology and so read some of your mails > > with a lot of > > > > interest. > > > > > > > > I was reading through you last mail and came across - "Also > > second from rahu > > > > is debilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up > > ending that > > > > relationship. " > > > > > > > > It immediately reminded me of the chart of some one I know that > > has a > > > > similar configuration - 7th house DebRahu and 8th house DebRetJup > > with > > > > MalMoon...... I would like your analysis and insights on it with > > regard to > > > > marriage, persons nature and future - the chart is attached. The > > person has > > > > a marriage that has been very troublesome from day one. Married > > April 23 > > > > 2001, First child - Boy - 14th Sep. 2002 (Moola- 2nd pada) After > > much > > > > trouble, almost a year, has been better. Predictions for future > > so far have > > > > not been good. > > > > > > > > With thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > Vinoo > > > > > > > > Bharat Vyas [bharatvyas@g...] > > > > Thursday, December 23, 2004 07:08 > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Second marriage and career > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna: > > > > > > > > I feel it surely a blessing of Durga maa that you are getting > > married > > > > again. Looking at the dasha ...you first got married in venus- rahu > > > > dasha and this marriage is taking place in venus-merc-rahu dasha. > > keep > > > > praying to Durga for sustaining ur married life. > > > > > > > > Also i would consider the second relationship of urs as having a > > > > potential for marriage or a marriage which was not defined in true > > > > sense as marriage cause of the presence of rahu which anti- > > dharmic in > > > > nature (but can lead you to high spirituality if well placed) and > > > > marriage is defined as dharma by Gita. Also second from rahu is > > > > debilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up ending > > that > > > > relationship. Also 3rd house where rahu is sitting is lorded by > > > > debilitated retrograde jupiter and hence the result. > > > > > > > > The third marriage of urs is now been looked from 10th house whose > > > > lord is moon who is in 9th from 10th house. 9th would indicate > > dharma > > > > and moon is considered a benefic and hence would to logical > > result of > > > > marriage denoting dharma. The second from 10th is what we will > > look > > > > now for longevity of ur third marriage. The 11th house is > > incidently > > > > badhak for ur lagna. The badhakesh is sun placed in ur 10th house > > for > > > > new marriage. While defining UL sun was considered benefic for > > > > marriage and longevity of marriage cause sun represents dharma. So > > > > though u might face problems in getting married 3rd time u will > > > > finally succeed also grace of maa durga. 11th house is badhak and > > its > > > > acting as badhak to breaking of marriage so marriage wont break :- > > ) . > > > > > > > > Good Luck and Best Wishes , > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2004 Report Share Posted December 25, 2004 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Vinay Attached is the chart of native. Would be great if we can get feedback from native if we are going in right direction with regards to current life situation. Also i m reading COVA currently, i did read JS from B V Raman. There is loads and loads of information to assimilate and its difficult to remember unless we practise with horoscopes, hence i started working with forum. Also i might be wrong and hence appreciate such discussions. I feel intuition is also a major part for predictions. Keep sending mails. Also see if you can investigate with Sushma's horoscope posted on forum and give some feedback. Thanks, Hare Krishna Bharat On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:59:54 -0000, vinaypatwardhan <patwardhanvinay wrote: > > > Dear bharat, > > Pls don't add ji and call me just Vinay. > > You are brilliant and contributing with very good spirit. I > appreciate ur efforts , we all are here to enhance our knowledge and > I'm also looking for meaningful discussion. > > Now regarding your 1st point , have you read COVA? Or JS? by Guruji! > In COVA in 7th chap he mentions UL lord in 12th House or similar > things, Does we have to see UL Lord placement from UL or from Asc ? > Pls get confirm. As per my understanding Asc is correct choice. Ask > Gurus about it. :-) > > Regarding marriage should take place or not, only UL in Rasi is > showing general trends and we have to confirm the things from D9. > Here UL Lord in 8th with Badhakesh showing misfortunes and > obstructions after marriage. Is it wrong? Secondly planets in 12th > and 7th from UL shows opposition from relative of inlaw's family as > per their karkatwa. > > Now in this case moon is aspecting UL (as UL lord) by Graha drishti > only (desires) and not by sign aspect (which is permanant) > > Thirdly UL and 2nd from UL are two different things. 2nd H is maraka > and hence gives the length of marriage. So whether marriage will > continue or not has to be confirmed by 2nd H and even it's Lord > placement in D9 is important. Any how what sun in trines to D9 shows? > Read JS!! > > Rahu in 7th H in debilation ( Dhanu) shows disputes, difference of > opinions , anger and 7th L in 8th shows social difference between the > partners and along with 2nd L it shows reasults of it's placement in > 2nd H. So overall results are not inductive. > > Have you checked the position of UL from AL and A7 ? What about D9 > analysis? What is the meaning of UL in 2nd? See there are much more > things we have to look at!! > > Currently I won't see the chart of native hence can't give final > conclusion but my attempt is only to enhance your analysis and get > benefited in terms of knowledge. Can u give birth details of native ? > > See you may be right in predictions but way of reasoning should be > perfect. Have you read COVA ? (sorry if you have already read it, but > for duffer like me it 'll take yrs to understand it)If you give chart > I may go in deep. > > Pls take this in right spirit and forgive if overwritten. But it's > interesting to discuss with you. > > With Regards, > Vinay Patwardhan > > P.S. :- What if 7th L is Vakri? Sun must be in 12th to 4th House So > how you will time the age when native get strike regarding Vakri ness? > Just think !! :-) > > vedic astrology, Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas@g...> > wrote: > > Dear Vinayji: > > > > Thanks for ur mail and feedback. I understand what you are talking > > about but see here you are mixing 2 things up....i am not saying u r > > wrong or i am right...please take this in right spirit cause we r > > looking for constructive discussion and i would be happy to take > > suggestion to enhance my learning. > > > > We have special lagnas defined for specific purpose of life. So when > > you look at Lagna we look at the individual and when we look at > lagna > > in D-10 we look only at occupation with regards to that lagna. > > Likewise when we look at UL we look only at marriage and mixing up > 8th > > house from rashi lagna with UL is not encouraging by my personal > > opinion. > > > > So in this case we are looking at UL so jupiter and moon are in 7th > > from UL and not 8th and fully aspecting the UL so i feel its good > > cause both are natural benefic planets and since marriage is > > considered a dharma their aspect on marriage (UL) is considered good > > for marriage to take place, if we go by ur way of understanding the > > marriage wont take place at all, but the truth is marriage happened > > and hence their aspect on UL is not bad. > > > > Now 2nd from UL is the house we see for marriage to break, this is > the > > house of Sun and is aspected by 3rd drishti by shani who is sun's > > biggest enemy and hence there is pain in marriage. Also 12 th from > > marriage is having lots of planets so ....the marriage is disturbed > > not cause of the individuals but because of outside forces where > > in-laws and others come in. > > > > Also we consider rashi dristi to be more powerful than graha dristi, > > here there is rashi dristi by jupiter + moon (Most Beneficial > > Association - Gajkesari ) on 2nd from UL, which will protect the > > marriage and not break it.....even though jupiter is debilitated but > > its the greatest symbol of dharma and god in a horoscope and if this > > marriage is based on dharma (i,e., there is no cheating involved ) > > this marriage will not break. > > > > * The other thread where in Dimpleji's case the relationship was not > > dharma cause her UL was occupied by Rahu (enemy of Jupiter ) and 2nd > > from UL was occupied by jupiter who would break the marriage in this > > case he is breaking adharma * > > > > Hence i would say even though there is pain involved, but still > > marriage is existing and will continue to exist till there is no > > adharma creeping in. The dharakaraka for native is saturn which > > teaches or pays back karma by sorrow and hence sorrow in marriage > and > > relationship. Saturn is also aspecting 2nd from UL so it will make > the > > native to stay in this relationship till the karmic relations are > > satisfied. > > > > They already have a kid and mars is putrakaraka and is friend of > > saturn (DK) and hence the baby could as well force them to stay > > together. > > > > OM TAT SAT. > > > > Thanks for ur mail Vinayji and sorry if i have offended anybody. > > > > Hare Krishna, > > > > Bharat > > > > > > On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:33:53 -0000, vinaypatwardhan > > <patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Bharat, > > > > > > Even though I'm also beginer like u, i'll like to add few things. > > > U mention moon is in 7th from UL this is showing oposition from > > > mother in law. (Learned ones pls correct me) and for Ge lagna if > moon > > > is UL Lord and placed in 7th from UL i.e. 8th H It's in maran > karka > > > sthana and may show 1st relastionship was not materialse or have > > > strong problems!! Where 12th L Ven is situated? It shows loss!! > > > For UL to be in 2nd H , 12th L must be in 1st or 7th H!! In both > > > cases it weakens the 2nd or 8th H !! Think again!! > > > > > > REgarding 7th L jup in debilation in 8th with UL lord !! Is it > good? > > > Think again !! What happens when planets join debilitate planets? > > > What are the results given for 7th L in 8th !! > > > > > > For Badhakesha read Guruji's article in detail!! > > > > > > Check navamsa occupied by sun in D9 chart. > > > > > > I've not fully read your last correspondance but these are few > > > comments !! Hopefully you will not mind it. > > > > > > With Regards, > > > Vinay Patwardhan > > > > > > vedic astrology, Bharat Vyas > <bharatvyas@g...> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Vinooji: > > > > > > > > When i was discussing the statement highlighted by you i was > > > refering > > > > it with UL and not with 7th house. I did try to explain > difference > > > > between UL, 7th house and A7 in one of my previous mail. > > > > > > > > In this case, rahu is in the 7th house and is having rashi > drishti > > > and > > > > graha drishti of so many planets causing the distress for > person. > > > Also > > > > rahu is inimical towards jupiter and in the house of jupiter is > > > > causing tensions. This is with regards to general sexuality and > > > > partnership in any sense. However specifically for marriage i > would > > > > see UL, now lord of UL is moon and is in 7th from UL so > completely > > > > aspecting UL and hence will give marriage. > > > > > > > > For gemini lagna, jupiter is a badhakesh and looking at jupiter > to > > > be > > > > retrograde debilitated weak is i feel good cause it will lessen > its > > > > strength as badhakesh. Hence i would say its being weak is > > > protecting > > > > 7th house in a sense. I dont know if my logic is right here so > will > > > > request other members to help me on this. > > > > > > > > Now 2nd from UL is aspected by rashi drishti by moon and jupiter > > > which > > > > are beneficial planets by nature hence will not break marriage > > > easily. > > > > I read a dictum where it says Jupiter if bad for a particular > lagna > > > it > > > > will spoil the house where it is posited but houses under its > > > drishti > > > > will still prosper and vice versa for saturn. > > > > > > > > So i would say the marriage wont break so easily atleast for 16 > > > yrs. > > > > > > > > sorry couldnt mail earlier and have to jet out for now but i am > open > > > > for further discussion. > > > > > > > > Hare krishna > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:35:14 +0530, Vinoo M Titus > > > <vinoo.titus@a...> wrote: > > > > >  > > > > > Dear Bharat ji, > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to learn astrology and so read some of your mails > > > with a lot of > > > > > interest. > > > > > > > > > > I was reading through you last mail and came across - "Also > > > second from rahu > > > > > is debilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up > > > ending that > > > > > relationship. " > > > > > > > > > > It immediately reminded me of the chart of some one I know > that > > > has a > > > > > similar configuration - 7th house DebRahu and 8th house > DebRetJup > > > with > > > > > MalMoon...... I would like your analysis and insights on it > with > > > regard to > > > > > marriage, persons nature and future - the chart is attached. > The > > > person has > > > > > a marriage that has been very troublesome from day one. > Married > > > April 23 > > > > > 2001, First child - Boy - 14th Sep. 2002 (Moola- 2nd pada) > After > > > much > > > > > trouble, almost a year, has been better. Predictions for > future > > > so far have > > > > > not been good. > > > > > > > > > > With thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > Vinoo > > > > > > > > > > Bharat Vyas [bharatvyas@g...] > > > > > Thursday, December 23, 2004 07:08 > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Second marriage and career > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna: > > > > > > > > > > I feel it surely a blessing of Durga maa that you are getting > > > married > > > > > again. Looking at the dasha ...you first got married in venus- > rahu > > > > > dasha and this marriage is taking place in venus-merc-rahu > dasha. > > > keep > > > > > praying to Durga for sustaining ur married life. > > > > > > > > > > Also i would consider the second relationship of urs as > having a > > > > > potential for marriage or a marriage which was not defined in > true > > > > > sense as marriage cause of the presence of rahu which anti- > > > dharmic in > > > > > nature (but can lead you to high spirituality if well placed) > and > > > > > marriage is defined as dharma by Gita. Also second from rahu > is > > > > > debilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up > ending > > > that > > > > > relationship. Also 3rd house where rahu is sitting is lorded > by > > > > > debilitated retrograde jupiter and hence the result. > > > > > > > > > > The third marriage of urs is now been looked from 10th house > whose > > > > > lord is moon who is in 9th from 10th house. 9th would indicate > > > dharma > > > > > and moon is considered a benefic and hence would to logical > > > result of > > > > > marriage denoting dharma. The second from 10th is what we will > > > look > > > > > now for longevity of ur third marriage. The 11th house is > > > incidently > > > > > badhak for ur lagna. The badhakesh is sun placed in ur 10th > house > > > for > > > > > new marriage. While defining UL sun was considered benefic for > > > > > marriage and longevity of marriage cause sun represents > dharma. So > > > > > though u might face problems in getting married 3rd time u > will > > > > > finally succeed also grace of maa durga. 11th house is badhak > and > > > its > > > > > acting as badhak to breaking of marriage so marriage wont > break :- > > > ) . > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck and Best Wishes , > > > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > Attachment: (application/octet-stream) 7th house rahu and 8th debretjup.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 || Shri Datta Jay Datta || Dear Bharat, Good suggestion ask Vinoo ji for the feedback, but I'm more interested in Theory now as you also agree intuition should not spoil my way of resoning!! See in COVA in 1st chart only on 7th H Guruji gives position of UL L in 12th, also strength of UL L in concerned D-chart (D9) is imp. I know you are brilliant and will learn all this very soon Go ahead try to solve many charts and help the people. Try to read (even I won't finish it :-) but still advicing !! ) JS by Guruji may help you very much. For chart analysis , I don't find attatchment chart , anyway we will meet again after short break. With Regards, Vinay Patwardhan P.s. Happy Shri Datta Jayanti to all!! vedic astrology, Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas@g...> wrote: > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Dear Vinay > > Attached is the chart of native. Would be great if we can get feedback > from native if we are going in right direction with regards to current > life situation. Also i m reading COVA currently, i did read JS from B > V Raman. There is loads and loads of information to assimilate and its > difficult to remember unless we practise with horoscopes, hence i > started working with forum. > > Also i might be wrong and hence appreciate such discussions. I feel > intuition is also a major part for predictions. > > Keep sending mails. Also see if you can investigate with Sushma's > horoscope posted on forum and give some feedback. > > Thanks, Hare Krishna > > Bharat > > > On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:59:54 -0000, vinaypatwardhan > <patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear bharat, > > > > Pls don't add ji and call me just Vinay. > > > > You are brilliant and contributing with very good spirit. I > > appreciate ur efforts , we all are here to enhance our knowledge and > > I'm also looking for meaningful discussion. > > > > Now regarding your 1st point , have you read COVA? Or JS? by Guruji! > > In COVA in 7th chap he mentions UL lord in 12th House or similar > > things, Does we have to see UL Lord placement from UL or from Asc ? > > Pls get confirm. As per my understanding Asc is correct choice. Ask > > Gurus about it. :-) > > > > Regarding marriage should take place or not, only UL in Rasi is > > showing general trends and we have to confirm the things from D9. > > Here UL Lord in 8th with Badhakesh showing misfortunes and > > obstructions after marriage. Is it wrong? Secondly planets in 12th > > and 7th from UL shows opposition from relative of inlaw's family as > > per their karkatwa. > > > > Now in this case moon is aspecting UL (as UL lord) by Graha drishti > > only (desires) and not by sign aspect (which is permanant) > > > > Thirdly UL and 2nd from UL are two different things. 2nd H is maraka > > and hence gives the length of marriage. So whether marriage will > > continue or not has to be confirmed by 2nd H and even it's Lord > > placement in D9 is important. Any how what sun in trines to D9 shows? > > Read JS!! > > > > Rahu in 7th H in debilation ( Dhanu) shows disputes, difference of > > opinions , anger and 7th L in 8th shows social difference between the > > partners and along with 2nd L it shows reasults of it's placement in > > 2nd H. So overall results are not inductive. > > > > Have you checked the position of UL from AL and A7 ? What about D9 > > analysis? What is the meaning of UL in 2nd? See there are much more > > things we have to look at!! > > > > Currently I won't see the chart of native hence can't give final > > conclusion but my attempt is only to enhance your analysis and get > > benefited in terms of knowledge. Can u give birth details of native ? > > > > See you may be right in predictions but way of reasoning should be > > perfect. Have you read COVA ? (sorry if you have already read it, but > > for duffer like me it 'll take yrs to understand it)If you give chart > > I may go in deep. > > > > Pls take this in right spirit and forgive if overwritten. But it's > > interesting to discuss with you. > > > > With Regards, > > Vinay Patwardhan > > > > P.S. :- What if 7th L is Vakri? Sun must be in 12th to 4th House So > > how you will time the age when native get strike regarding Vakri ness? > > Just think !! :-) > > > > vedic astrology, Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas@g...> > > wrote: > > > Dear Vinayji: > > > > > > Thanks for ur mail and feedback. I understand what you are talking > > > about but see here you are mixing 2 things up....i am not saying u r > > > wrong or i am right...please take this in right spirit cause we r > > > looking for constructive discussion and i would be happy to take > > > suggestion to enhance my learning. > > > > > > We have special lagnas defined for specific purpose of life. So when > > > you look at Lagna we look at the individual and when we look at > > lagna > > > in D-10 we look only at occupation with regards to that lagna. > > > Likewise when we look at UL we look only at marriage and mixing up > > 8th > > > house from rashi lagna with UL is not encouraging by my personal > > > opinion. > > > > > > So in this case we are looking at UL so jupiter and moon are in 7th > > > from UL and not 8th and fully aspecting the UL so i feel its good > > > cause both are natural benefic planets and since marriage is > > > considered a dharma their aspect on marriage (UL) is considered good > > > for marriage to take place, if we go by ur way of understanding the > > > marriage wont take place at all, but the truth is marriage happened > > > and hence their aspect on UL is not bad. > > > > > > Now 2nd from UL is the house we see for marriage to break, this is > > the > > > house of Sun and is aspected by 3rd drishti by shani who is sun's > > > biggest enemy and hence there is pain in marriage. Also 12 th from > > > marriage is having lots of planets so ....the marriage is disturbed > > > not cause of the individuals but because of outside forces where > > > in-laws and others come in. > > > > > > Also we consider rashi dristi to be more powerful than graha dristi, > > > here there is rashi dristi by jupiter + moon (Most Beneficial > > > Association - Gajkesari ) on 2nd from UL, which will protect the > > > marriage and not break it.....even though jupiter is debilitated but > > > its the greatest symbol of dharma and god in a horoscope and if this > > > marriage is based on dharma (i,e., there is no cheating involved ) > > > this marriage will not break. > > > > > > * The other thread where in Dimpleji's case the relationship was not > > > dharma cause her UL was occupied by Rahu (enemy of Jupiter ) and 2nd > > > from UL was occupied by jupiter who would break the marriage in this > > > case he is breaking adharma * > > > > > > Hence i would say even though there is pain involved, but still > > > marriage is existing and will continue to exist till there is no > > > adharma creeping in. The dharakaraka for native is saturn which > > > teaches or pays back karma by sorrow and hence sorrow in marriage > > and > > > relationship. Saturn is also aspecting 2nd from UL so it will make > > the > > > native to stay in this relationship till the karmic relations are > > > satisfied. > > > > > > They already have a kid and mars is putrakaraka and is friend of > > > saturn (DK) and hence the baby could as well force them to stay > > > together. > > > > > > OM TAT SAT. > > > > > > Thanks for ur mail Vinayji and sorry if i have offended anybody. > > > > > > Hare Krishna, > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:33:53 -0000, vinaypatwardhan > > > <patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bharat, > > > > > > > > Even though I'm also beginer like u, i'll like to add few things. > > > > U mention moon is in 7th from UL this is showing oposition from > > > > mother in law. (Learned ones pls correct me) and for Ge lagna if > > moon > > > > is UL Lord and placed in 7th from UL i.e. 8th H It's in maran > > karka > > > > sthana and may show 1st relastionship was not materialse or have > > > > strong problems!! Where 12th L Ven is situated? It shows loss!! > > > > For UL to be in 2nd H , 12th L must be in 1st or 7th H!! In both > > > > cases it weakens the 2nd or 8th H !! Think again!! > > > > > > > > REgarding 7th L jup in debilation in 8th with UL lord !! Is it > > good? > > > > Think again !! What happens when planets join debilitate planets? > > > > What are the results given for 7th L in 8th !! > > > > > > > > For Badhakesha read Guruji's article in detail!! > > > > > > > > Check navamsa occupied by sun in D9 chart. > > > > > > > > I've not fully read your last correspondance but these are few > > > > comments !! Hopefully you will not mind it. > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > Vinay Patwardhan > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Bharat Vyas > > <bharatvyas@g...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Vinooji: > > > > > > > > > > When i was discussing the statement highlighted by you i was > > > > refering > > > > > it with UL and not with 7th house. I did try to explain > > difference > > > > > between UL, 7th house and A7 in one of my previous mail. > > > > > > > > > > In this case, rahu is in the 7th house and is having rashi > > drishti > > > > and > > > > > graha drishti of so many planets causing the distress for > > person. > > > > Also > > > > > rahu is inimical towards jupiter and in the house of jupiter is > > > > > causing tensions. This is with regards to general sexuality and > > > > > partnership in any sense. However specifically for marriage i > > would > > > > > see UL, now lord of UL is moon and is in 7th from UL so > > completely > > > > > aspecting UL and hence will give marriage. > > > > > > > > > > For gemini lagna, jupiter is a badhakesh and looking at jupiter > > to > > > > be > > > > > retrograde debilitated weak is i feel good cause it will lessen > > its > > > > > strength as badhakesh. Hence i would say its being weak is > > > > protecting > > > > > 7th house in a sense. I dont know if my logic is right here so > > will > > > > > request other members to help me on this. > > > > > > > > > > Now 2nd from UL is aspected by rashi drishti by moon and jupiter > > > > which > > > > > are beneficial planets by nature hence will not break marriage > > > > easily. > > > > > I read a dictum where it says Jupiter if bad for a particular > > lagna > > > > it > > > > > will spoil the house where it is posited but houses under its > > > > drishti > > > > > will still prosper and vice versa for saturn. > > > > > > > > > > So i would say the marriage wont break so easily atleast for 16 > > > > yrs. > > > > > > > > > > sorry couldnt mail earlier and have to jet out for now but i am > > open > > > > > for further discussion. > > > > > > > > > > Hare krishna > > > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:35:14 +0530, Vinoo M Titus > > > > <vinoo.titus@a...> wrote: > > > > > >  > > > > > > Dear Bharat ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to learn astrology and so read some of your mails > > > > with a lot of > > > > > > interest. > > > > > > > > > > > > I was reading through you last mail and came across - "Also > > > > second from rahu > > > > > > is debilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up > > > > ending that > > > > > > relationship. " > > > > > > > > > > > > It immediately reminded me of the chart of some one I know > > that > > > > has a > > > > > > similar configuration - 7th house DebRahu and 8th house > > DebRetJup > > > > with > > > > > > MalMoon...... I would like your analysis and insights on it > > with > > > > regard to > > > > > > marriage, persons nature and future - the chart is attached. > > The > > > > person has > > > > > > a marriage that has been very troublesome from day one. > > Married > > > > April 23 > > > > > > 2001, First child - Boy - 14th Sep. 2002 (Moola- 2nd pada) > > After > > > > much > > > > > > trouble, almost a year, has been better. Predictions for > > future > > > > so far have > > > > > > not been good. > > > > > > > > > > > > With thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Vinoo > > > > > > > > > > > > Bharat Vyas [bharatvyas@g...] > > > > > > Thursday, December 23, 2004 07:08 > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Second marriage and career > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna: > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel it surely a blessing of Durga maa that you are getting > > > > married > > > > > > again. Looking at the dasha ...you first got married in venus- > > rahu > > > > > > dasha and this marriage is taking place in venus-merc-rahu > > dasha. > > > > keep > > > > > > praying to Durga for sustaining ur married life. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also i would consider the second relationship of urs as > > having a > > > > > > potential for marriage or a marriage which was not defined in > > true > > > > > > sense as marriage cause of the presence of rahu which anti- > > > > dharmic in > > > > > > nature (but can lead you to high spirituality if well placed) > > and > > > > > > marriage is defined as dharma by Gita. Also second from rahu > > is > > > > > > debilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up > > ending > > > > that > > > > > > relationship. Also 3rd house where rahu is sitting is lorded > > by > > > > > > debilitated retrograde jupiter and hence the result. > > > > > > > > > > > > The third marriage of urs is now been looked from 10th house > > whose > > > > > > lord is moon who is in 9th from 10th house. 9th would indicate > > > > dharma > > > > > > and moon is considered a benefic and hence would to logical > > > > result of > > > > > > marriage denoting dharma. The second from 10th is what we will > > > > look > > > > > > now for longevity of ur third marriage. The 11th house is > > > > incidently > > > > > > badhak for ur lagna. The badhakesh is sun placed in ur 10th > > house > > > > for > > > > > > new marriage. While defining UL sun was considered benefic for > > > > > > marriage and longevity of marriage cause sun represents > > dharma. So > > > > > > though u might face problems in getting married 3rd time u > > will > > > > > > finally succeed also grace of maa durga. 11th house is badhak > > and > > > > its > > > > > > acting as badhak to breaking of marriage so marriage wont > > break :- > > > > ) . > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck and Best Wishes , > > > > > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 Dear Vinay ji and Bharat ji, I am making the natives chart available as part of the mail itself.. please refer below. This should help avoid all difficulties.... I am providing details on current reality of the native...... all I request is, Please discuss in thorough detail so that I too can learn....... The Native was married on April 23 2001 after much difficulty - one of the causes of difficulties was a physical defect/deficiency that made her shy-off from any relationship.... The spouse is at work in cycles of 28 days - so he is available to her for intermittent periods of 28 days. Mother in Law has strong influence on son, and is pictured by her as a tormentor. Son was born on 14 Sep 2002. Within 48 to 72 hrs. families of both were at each other.....April 2003 everything descended in a heap of marital violence. All forms of separation was contemplated.... the family were reunited in Nov 03. Recently they moved out of the joint family setup.... Currently they enjoy an uneasy peace...28 days ON and 28 days OFF...the native's nature, attitude, behavior and interpersonal skill seem to portend further trouble..... Do let me know if you have any further questions. With thanks and regards, Vinoo ___________ -- These calculations were made using the free "Jagannatha Hora Lite" software, which can be downloaded from the website of its author P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (www.VedicAstrologer.org) or from the website of Sri Jagannath Centre (www.SriJagannath.org).-- 7th House Rahu and 8th DebRetJup Natal Chart June 19, 1973Time: 6:18:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 76 E 46' 00", 11 N 22' 00" Altitude: 1767.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Pramadi - JyeshthaTithi: Krishna Tritiya (Ma) (11.45% left)Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)Nakshatra: Uttarashadha (Su) (9.39% left)Yoga: Indra (Ra)Karana: Vishti (Sa)Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Cp)Mahakala Hora: Jupiter (5 min sign: Sc)Kaala Lord: Mars (Mahakala: Mars) Sunrise: 6:04:06Sunset: 18:44:11Janma Ghatis: 0.5790 Ayanamsa: 23-29-28.13Sidereal Time: 23:43:31 Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa Lagna 7 Ge 18' 51.10" Ardr 1 Ge SgSun - GK 4 Ge 07' 15.66" Mrig 4 Ge ScMoon - PiK 8 Cp 44' 51.36" USha 4 Cp PiMars - PK 5 Pi 18' 08.60" UBha 1 Pi LeMercury - AK 28 Ge 51' 29.31" Puna 3 Ge GeJupiter ® - BK 18 Cp 03' 42.65" Srav 3 Cp GeVenus - AmK 22 Ge 41' 35.80" Puna 1 Ge ArSaturn - DK 1 Ge 06' 29.32" Mrig 3 Ge LiRahu - MK 14 Sg 48' 39.14" PSha 1 Sg LeKetu 14 Ge 48' 39.14" Ardr 3 Ge AqMaandi 16 Vi 05' 43.15" Hast 2 Vi TaGulika 4 Vi 10' 01.79" UPha 3 Vi AqBhava Lagna 7 Ge 35' 09.00" Ardr 1 Ge SgHora Lagna 11 Ge 03' 35.50" Ardr 2 Ge CpGhati Lagna 21 Ge 28' 54.98" Puna 1 Ge ArVighati Lagna 13 Le 35' 32.38" PPha 1 Le LeVarnada Lagna 7 Vi 18' 51.10" Aswi 1 Vi ViSree Lagna 3 Ta 29' 57.71" Krit 3 Ta AqDhooma 17 Li 27' 15.66" Swat 4 Li PiVyatipata 12 Vi 32' 44.34" Hast 1 Vi ArParivesha 12 Pi 32' 44.34" UBha 3 Pi LiIndra Chapa 17 Ar 27' 15.66" Bhar 2 Ar ViUpaketu 4 Ta 07' 15.66" Krit 3 Ta AqKaala 2 Sc 03' 01.28" Visa 4 Sc CnMrityu 14 Ge 59' 47.23" Ardr 3 Ge AqArtha Prahara 6 Cn 39' 51.49" Push 1 Cn LeYama Ghantaka 28 Cn 58' 11.51" Asre 4 Cn Pi Planet Chara Karakatwa Meaning Sun GK Cousin (rival)Moon PiK Father (authority)Mars PK Son (follower)Mercury AK SelfJupiter BK Brother (associate)Venus AmK Minister (advisor)Saturn DK Spouse (partner)Rahu MK Mother (nourisher) Ashtakavarga of Rasi Chart: Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq PiAs 5 3 5* 3 5 5 3 6 2 4 2 6 Su 5 4 5* 2 2 5 3 6 4 3 3 6 Mo 7 1 2 3 7 3 5 5 4 5* 2 5 Ma 6 1 5 0 3 2 4 6 3 3 1 5*Me 7 2 7* 3 4 4 5 6 3 4 5 4 Ju 6 2 4 6 3 5 6 6 3 3* 6 6 Ve 6 4 3* 2 7 5 5 4 1 6 6 3 Sa 5 4 4* 2 3 2 1 6 3 3 2 4 Sodhya Pinda Rasi Pinda Graha PindaAs 217 112 105Su 205 129 76Mo 211 135 76Ma 331 173 158Me 185 103 82Ju 81 66 15Ve 191 153 38Sa 200 103 97 Planet Shadbala In rupas % Strength IshtaPhala KashtaPhala Sun 453.90 7.57 151.30 49.77 4.16Moon 357.20 5.95 99.22 32.59 20.97Mars 539.56 8.99 179.85 41.83 16.99Mercury 541.59 9.03 128.95 34.07 25.92Jupiter 341.89 5.70 87.66 14.07 28.43Venus 426.11 7.10 129.13 20.37 36.56Saturn 227.30 3.79 75.77 3.89 52.22 +--------------+|Ma AL | | |As Su || | | |Me Ve || | | |Sa Ke || | | |HL GL || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||Mo JuR | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ra | | |Md Gk || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ +--------------+|Mo |Ve GL |Md |Me JuR || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ke Gk | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||HL | |Ma Ra || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||As |Su |Sa |AL || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ +--------------+|Ra | | |Me Ve || | | |GL Gk || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||JuR | | || | | || | | || | | || | Hora | ||-----------| |-----------||Mo | D-2 (Kn) | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ma AL | | |As Su || | | |Sa Ke || | | |HL Md || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ +--------------+|Ma |Ra |JuR |As Su || | | |Sa || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Me Ve | | ||GL | | || | | || | | || | Drekkana | ||-----------| |-----------||Mo Md | D-3 | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| | |Ke HL |Gk || | |AL | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ +--------------+|Ma Me |Mo | |As Su ||Ve Ra | | |Sa ||Md | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| | |JuR || | | || | | || | | || | Chaturthamsa | ||-----------| |-----------|| | D-4 | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||GL | | |Ke HL || | | |Gk AL || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ +--------------+|Md |Su Sa |Ma Gk |Ve GL || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||As HL | | || | | || | | || | | || | Panchamsa | ||-----------| |-----------||JuR | D-5 | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ra Ke | |Me AL |Mo || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ +--------------+| |Su Sa |As |Ra Ke || | | |HL || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| | | || | | || | | || | | || | Shashthamsa | ||-----------| |-----------||JuR Md | D-6 |Ve GL || | |AL || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Mo Ma |Gk |Me || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ +--------------+|Ra Gk | | |Su Sa || | | |Md || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| | |As || | | || | | || | | || | Saptamsa | ||-----------| |-----------|| | D-7 |HL || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Me |JuR Ve |Ma |Mo Ke || |GL AL | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ +--------------+|Me | | |Mo AL || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ve | | || | | || | | || | | || | Ashtamsa | ||-----------| |-----------||GL | D-8 |JuR Sa || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Md |Ra Ke |HL |As Su || | | |Ma Gk || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ +--------------+|Me JuR |Ra | |Sa Gk || | | |AL || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| | |Su || | | || | | || | | || | Dasamsa | ||-----------| |-----------||Ve GL | D-10 |As || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ma |Mo |Ke Md |HL || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ +--------------+|Su |As Md | |Ma HL || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Sa | |Ke || | | || | | || | | || | Rudramsa | ||-----------| |-----------||JuR Ra | D-11 |AL || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Me Gk | |Mo Ve |GL || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ +--------------+|Ve Md |Mo |Ma Me |Sa AL || | |Ra | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||GL | |Su || | | || | | || | | || | Dwadasamsa | ||-----------| |-----------|| | D-12 |As JuR || | | || | | 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career|| Shri Datta Jay Datta ||Dear Bharat,Good suggestion ask Vinoo ji for the feedback, but I'm more interested in Theory now as you also agree intuition should not spoil my way of resoning!!See in COVA in 1st chart only on 7th H Guruji gives position of UL L in 12th, also strength of UL L in concerned D-chart (D9) is imp. I know you are brilliant and will learn all this very soon Go ahead try to solve many charts and help the people.Try to read (even I won't finish it :-) but still advicing !! ) JS by Guruji may help you very much.For chart analysis , I don't find attatchment chart , anyway we will meet again after short break.With Regards,Vinay PatwardhanP.s. Happy Shri Datta Jayanti to all!! vedic astrology, Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas@g...> wrote:> || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > Dear Vinay> > Attached is the chart of native. Would be great if we can get feedback> from native if we are going in right direction with regards to current> life situation. Also i m reading COVA currently, i did read JS from B> V Raman. There is loads and loads of information to assimilate and its> difficult to remember unless we practise with horoscopes, hence i> started working with forum.> > Also i might be wrong and hence appreciate such discussions. I feel> intuition is also a major part for predictions.> > Keep sending mails. Also see if you can investigate with Sushma's> horoscope posted on forum and give some feedback.> > Thanks, Hare Krishna> > Bharat> > > On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:59:54 -0000, vinaypatwardhan> <patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote:> > > > > > Dear bharat,> > > > Pls don't add ji and call me just Vinay.> > > > You are brilliant and contributing with very good spirit. I> > appreciate ur efforts , we all are here to enhance our knowledge and> > I'm also looking for meaningful discussion.> > > > Now regarding your 1st point , have you read COVA? Or JS? by Guruji!> > In COVA in 7th chap he mentions UL lord in 12th House or similar> > things, Does we have to see UL Lord placement from UL or from Asc ?> > Pls get confirm. As per my understanding Asc is correct choice. Ask> > Gurus about it. :-)> > > > Regarding marriage should take place or not, only UL in Rasi is> > showing general trends and we have to confirm the things from D9.> > Here UL Lord in 8th with Badhakesh showing misfortunes and> > obstructions after marriage. Is it wrong? Secondly planets in 12th> > and 7th from UL shows opposition from relative of inlaw's family as> > per their karkatwa.> > > > Now in this case moon is aspecting UL (as UL lord) by Graha drishti> > only (desires) and not by sign aspect (which is permanant)> > > > Thirdly UL and 2nd from UL are two different things. 2nd H is maraka> > and hence gives the length of marriage. So whether marriage will> > continue or not has to be confirmed by 2nd H and even it's Lord> > placement in D9 is important. Any how what sun in trines to D9 shows?> > Read JS!!> > > > Rahu in 7th H in debilation ( Dhanu) shows disputes, difference of> > opinions , anger and 7th L in 8th shows social difference between the> > partners and along with 2nd L it shows reasults of it's placement in> > 2nd H. So overall results are not inductive.> > > > Have you checked the position of UL from AL and A7 ? What about D9> > analysis? What is the meaning of UL in 2nd? See there are much more> > things we have to look at!!> > > > Currently I won't see the chart of native hence can't give final> > conclusion but my attempt is only to enhance your analysis and get> > benefited in terms of knowledge. Can u give birth details of native ?> > > > See you may be right in predictions but way of reasoning should be> > perfect. Have you read COVA ? (sorry if you have already read it, but> > for duffer like me it 'll take yrs to understand it)If you give chart> > I may go in deep.> > > > Pls take this in right spirit and forgive if overwritten. But it's> > interesting to discuss with you.> > > > With Regards,> > Vinay Patwardhan> > > > P.S. :- What if 7th L is Vakri? Sun must be in 12th to 4th House So> > how you will time the age when native get strike regarding Vakri ness?> > Just think !! :-)> > > > --- In vedic astrology, Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas@g...>> > wrote:> > > Dear Vinayji:> > >> > > Thanks for ur mail and feedback. I understand what you are talking> > > about but see here you are mixing 2 things up....i am not saying u r> > > wrong or i am right...please take this in right spirit cause we r> > > looking for constructive discussion and i would be happy to take> > > suggestion to enhance my learning.> > >> > > We have special lagnas defined for specific purpose of life. So when> > > you look at Lagna we look at the individual and when we look at> > lagna> > > in D-10 we look only at occupation with regards to that lagna.> > > Likewise when we look at UL we look only at marriage and mixing up> > 8th> > > house from rashi lagna with UL is not encouraging by my personal> > > opinion.> > >> > > So in this case we are looking at UL so jupiter and moon are in 7th> > > from UL and not 8th and fully aspecting the UL so i feel its good> > > cause both are natural benefic planets and since marriage is> > > considered a dharma their aspect on marriage (UL) is considered good> > > for marriage to take place, if we go by ur way of understanding the> > > marriage wont take place at all, but the truth is marriage happened> > > and hence their aspect on UL is not bad.> > >> > > Now 2nd from UL is the house we see for marriage to break, this is> > the> > > house of Sun and is aspected by 3rd drishti by shani who is sun's> > > biggest enemy and hence there is pain in marriage. Also 12 th from> > > marriage is having lots of planets so ....the marriage is disturbed> > > not cause of the individuals but because of outside forces where> > > in-laws and others come in.> > >> > > Also we consider rashi dristi to be more powerful than graha dristi,> > > here there is rashi dristi by jupiter + moon (Most Beneficial> > > Association - Gajkesari ) on 2nd from UL, which will protect the> > > marriage and not break it.....even though jupiter is debilitated but> > > its the greatest symbol of dharma and god in a horoscope and if this> > > marriage is based on dharma (i,e., there is no cheating involved )> > > this marriage will not break.> > >> > > * The other thread where in Dimpleji's case the relationship was not> > > dharma cause her UL was occupied by Rahu (enemy of Jupiter ) and 2nd> > > from UL was occupied by jupiter who would break the marriage in this> > > case he is breaking adharma *> > >> > > Hence i would say even though there is pain involved, but still> > > marriage is existing and will continue to exist till there is no> > > adharma creeping in. The dharakaraka for native is saturn which> > > teaches or pays back karma by sorrow and hence sorrow in marriage> > and> > > relationship. Saturn is also aspecting 2nd from UL so it will make> > the> > > native to stay in this relationship till the karmic relations are> > > satisfied.> > >> > > They already have a kid and mars is putrakaraka and is friend of> > > saturn (DK) and hence the baby could as well force them to stay> > > together.> > >> > > OM TAT SAT.> > >> > > Thanks for ur mail Vinayji and sorry if i have offended anybody.> > >> > > Hare Krishna,> > >> > > Bharat> > >> > >> > > On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:33:53 -0000, vinaypatwardhan> > > <patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Bharat,> > > >> > > > Even though I'm also beginer like u, i'll like to add few things.> > > > U mention moon is in 7th from UL this is showing oposition from> > > > mother in law. (Learned ones pls correct me) and for Ge lagna if> > moon> > > > is UL Lord and placed in 7th from UL i.e. 8th H It's in maran> > karka> > > > sthana and may show 1st relastionship was not materialse or have> > > > strong problems!! Where 12th L Ven is situated? It shows loss!!> > > > For UL to be in 2nd H , 12th L must be in 1st or 7th H!! In both> > > > cases it weakens the 2nd or 8th H !! Think again!!> > > >> > > > REgarding 7th L jup in debilation in 8th with UL lord !! Is it> > good?> > > > Think again !! What happens when planets join debilitate planets?> > > > What are the results given for 7th L in 8th !!> > > >> > > > For Badhakesha read Guruji's article in detail!!> > > >> > > > Check navamsa occupied by sun in D9 chart.> > > >> > > > I've not fully read your last correspondance but these are few> > > > comments !! Hopefully you will not mind it.> > > >> > > > With Regards,> > > > Vinay Patwardhan> > > >> > > > vedic astrology, Bharat Vyas> > <bharatvyas@g...>> > > > wrote:> > > > > Dear Vinooji:> > > > >> > > > > When i was discussing the statement highlighted by you i was> > > > refering> > > > > it with UL and not with 7th house. I did try to explain> > difference> > > > > between UL, 7th house and A7 in one of my previous mail.> > > > >> > > > > In this case, rahu is in the 7th house and is having rashi> > drishti> > > > and> > > > > graha drishti of so many planets causing the distress for> > person.> > > > Also> > > > > rahu is inimical towards jupiter and in the house of jupiter is> > > > > causing tensions. This is with regards to general sexuality and> > > > > partnership in any sense. However specifically for marriage i> > would> > > > > see UL, now lord of UL is moon and is in 7th from UL so> > completely> > > > > aspecting UL and hence will give marriage.> > > > >> > > > > For gemini lagna, jupiter is a badhakesh and looking at jupiter> > to> > > > be> > > > > retrograde debilitated weak is i feel good cause it will lessen> > its> > > > > strength as badhakesh. Hence i would say its being weak is> > > > protecting> > > > > 7th house in a sense. I dont know if my logic is right here so> > will> > > > > request other members to help me on this.> > > > >> > > > > Now 2nd from UL is aspected by rashi drishti by moon and jupiter> > > > which> > > > > are beneficial planets by nature hence will not break marriage> > > > easily.> > > > > I read a dictum where it says Jupiter if bad for a particular> > lagna> > > > it> > > > > will spoil the house where it is posited but houses under its> > > > drishti> > > > > will still prosper and vice versa for saturn.> > > > >> > > > > So i would say the marriage wont break so easily atleast for 16> > > > yrs.> > > > >> > > > > sorry couldnt mail earlier and have to jet out for now but i am> > open> > > > > for further discussion.> > > > >> > > > > Hare krishna> > > > >> > > > > Bharat> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:35:14 +0530, Vinoo M Titus> > > > <vinoo.titus@a...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bharat ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > I am trying to learn astrology and so read some of your mails> > > > with a lot of> > > > > > interest.> > > > > >> > > > > > I was reading through you last mail and came across -"Also> > > > second from rahu> > > > > > is debilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up> > > > ending that> > > > > > relationship. "> > > > > >> > > > > > It immediately reminded me of the chart of some one I know> > that> > > > has a> > > > > > similar configuration - 7th house DebRahu and 8th house> > DebRetJup> > > > with> > > > > > MalMoon...... I would like your analysis and insights on it> > with> > > > regard to> > > > > > marriage, persons nature and future - the chart is attached.> > The> > > > person has> > > > > > a marriage that has been very troublesome from day one.> > Married> > > > April 23> > > > > > 2001, First child - Boy - 14th Sep. 2002 (Moola- 2nd pada)> > After> > > > much> > > > > > trouble, almost a year, has been better. Predictions for> > future> > > > so far have> > > > > > not been good.> > > > > >> > > > > > With thanks and regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Vinoo> > > > > > > > > > > > Bharat Vyas [bharatvyas@g...]> > > > > > Thursday, December 23, 2004 07:08> > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Second marriage and career> > > > > >> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna:> > > > > >> > > > > > I feel it surely a blessing of Durga maa that you are getting> > > > married> > > > > > again. Looking at the dasha ...you first got married in venus-> > rahu> > > > > > dasha and this marriage is taking place in venus-merc-rahu> > dasha.> > > > keep> > > > > > praying to Durga for sustaining ur married life.> > > > > >> > > > > > Also i would consider the second relationship of urs as> > having a> > > > > > potential for marriage or a marriage which was not defined in> > true> > > > > > sense as marriage cause of the presence of rahu which anti-> > > > dharmic in> > > > > > nature (but can lead you to high spirituality if well placed)> > and> > > > > > marriage is defined as dharma by Gita. Also second from rahu> > is> > > > > > debilitated jupiter which is also retrograde so turned up> > ending> > > > that> > > > > > relationship. Also 3rd house where rahu is sitting is lorded> > by> > > > > > debilitated retrograde jupiter and hence the result.> > > > > >> > > > > > The third marriage of urs is now been looked from 10th house> > whose> > > > > > lord is moon who is in 9th from 10th house. 9th would indicate> > > > dharma> > > > > > and moon is considered a benefic and hence would to logical> > > > result of> > > > > > marriage denoting dharma. The second from 10th is what we will> > > > look> > > > > > now for longevity of ur third marriage. The 11th house is> > > > incidently> > > > > > badhak for ur lagna. The badhakesh is sun placed in ur 10th> > house> > > > for> > > > > > new marriage. While defining UL sun was considered benefic for> > > > > > marriage and longevity of marriage cause sun represents> > dharma. So> > > > > > though u might face problems in getting married 3rd time u> > will> > > > > > finally succeed also grace of maa durga. 11th house is badhak> > and> > > > its> > > > > > acting as badhak to breaking of marriage so marriage wont> > break :-> > > > ) .> > > > > >> > > > > > Good Luck and Best Wishes ,> > > > > >> > > > > > Bharat> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > > > Links> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > Links> > > > > > > > > >Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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